Ultimate RYZEN 7 Showdown! 9700X vs 7800X3D vs. 7700X Benchmarks, Temps, Power

[@brandonalan1513]

Now the 9700X is $325 and the 7800X3D is $475. I’d say the value choice is now the 9700X

[@bradmcdaniel5468]

now the 9700x is $320 and 7800x3d is $500+ 😑

[@brandonalan1513]

@ yep I’m enjoying my 9700X

[@Hikari_Sakurai]

the 7800X3D is so scarce these days that the price keeps going up. no chance i'll fork out almost 500 quid for that CPU

[@saintus888]

The price is good and all, but can you actually find a 7800x3d at retail price and not scalper prices?

[@Hikari_Sakurai]

@@saintus888 nope. not at the moment. I was looking in the UK, Europe and nope. no chance of getting it for the prices that were back in September

[@mikemoran98]

It’s so good to see more videos on the channel buddy. Missed it!

[@MeepMeep88]

LOL yea... I didn't eeven this dude still do youtube.. I think I stopped watching when he was redoing his house or something. Then I thought he just quit doing builds and only tech news. it's been years since I've seen this guy hahah

[@too_much_pc]

Nice to enjoy and trust your perspective again. A very balanced and comprehensive review. Highlighting temps where others glossed over it. Well done young man :)

[@Moon___man]

Good to see power usage going down! Been too damn hot lately, tired of cooking myself while gaming in the summer.

[@No-One.321]

Did people forget that if you had a 5800x3d you really didn't have much of a reason to get the 7700x or even the 7700x3d when they launched? Why is everyone expecting the 9700x to destroy the 7700x3d?

[@faruknane]

Since more expensive

[@lithari1480]

Well, performance wise the 7800x3d is faster because of its 3d cache, but that is also why it generates 10c more heat, i would personally give up the extra fps since most the games i play give more than enough for 120fps, most of them anyway, going from a 7800x3d to a 9700x, would lower the fps, but also the heat....and watt usage, less heat is always better.

[@faruknane]

@@lithari1480 I think you are wrong about watt usage. When its to gaming, 7800x3D is more efficient uses less wattage (check cpu watt usages for gaming please, not the system power because 7800x3d has higher fps and gpu renders more frames, thus gpu uses more watt when you pair it with 7800x3d, the power bar is deceiving. I told this in a comment before). When it is productive work, wattage is the same (88w). So lets make it clear that 7800x3D uses less power overall when you look at both categories. Yet, the pefm in gaming is superior for 7800x3D. In productivity is behind my just 7-8% percent when both cpus using the same power). For heat part, for 9700x the temp is decreased because of redesigning parts in the cpu, not because it s efficient. If you give same power to both cpus, they will produce the same amount of heat, but 9700x is better at making the heat go away faster thus lower temp. If you are in a room, they will release the same heat since they use the same wattage. Please get a brain

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Pcie 5.0 Is the reason you go am5

[@kevinerbs2778]

@@flamestoyershadowkill completely pointless from NVMe drives with are still crappy with random low Q depths. Also, pointless since everyone only uses a single GPU.

[@Mandalloyrian]

I'm comparing the bundle deals at Microcenter (9/18/2024). 7700x bundle is $400, 9700x is $450, 7800x3d is $600. At those prices, the 9700x seems like a better option for all around performance per dollar if you want the newest architecture.

[@williamrage6225]

Ha, I have Microcenter pulled up right now looking at exactly same bundles. (9/24/2024)

[@Mandalloyrian]

@@williamrage6225 so far it's given me nothing but trouble. Crashes and can't load Warzone. Might go back to my i7 10700k. Never had one issue with it.

[@williamrage6225]

@@Mandalloyrian Thank you, that’s good to know! I’m running an old I7-6700k. I still have until October 2025 before I’m forced to turn this PC into a Linux machine with Windows 10 end of life. Maybe I’ll just wait and see what the happens next few months, especially with Intel facing serious Financial difficulties.

[@EldenLord00]

@@Mandalloyrianwhat do you have? It’s probably a ram issue. Try turning on/off EXPO in bios

[@Mandalloyrian]

​@@EldenLord00oh I did that and everything else I could. Fresh Windows install, bios update, driver updates. One stick of ram at a time. Kept getting BSOD and eventually wouldn't even boot. Swapped my old setup back in and works flawlessly. I'm going to return the AMD parts. Spent 5 days on it and nothing.

[@TheGameBench]

Nice to see a more well rounded review that adds the context of power consumption.

[@lflyr6287]

The Ryzen 7 9700X is a beauty of technical advancements from AMD....to get that kind of performance with 8c/16t and efficiency at only 65 Watts Thermal Design Power is crazy. This one is going into my micro ITX build next week :) !!!!

[@vikrambhaskar7976]

Sorry to say that you have been greatly misinformed. Watch the 9600X review by HUB. There is little to no improvement over zen 4 and in some cases the performance has regressed. What a shame for calling this a technical advancement LOL!

[@meowritz]

​@@vikrambhaskar7976 65W vs 105W... I mean its not regression its just horrible marketing

[@lflyr6287]

@@vikrambhaskar7976 Hardware Unboxed is a selfproclaimed youtube review channel lead by Steve, that has opened his chanel during the financial crisis at around 2013-2015. He has no prior first hand experience and has no education in that field. Before that he had a low level and non-intellectual job. The only was to succeed on youtube is to eventually accept bribery from the big manufacturers. His current AMD bashing videos are a carefully crafted indoctrination dictated by Shintel....because in light of recent Shintel self-degrading cpu-s, AMD cannot look even more performant and more efficient. So they've packed into a carefully designed videos to try to bash AMD for not giving us the 30-40 % performance uplift but only 10-16 %. As if that is bad.

[@raminpro9765]

see techpowerup (powerhardware ) they change review of 9700x

[@VoldoronGaming]

@@lflyr6287not sure if this is a tongue in cheek post but Steve has been a reviewer for over 20 years

[@supergoofy123]

This level of power efficiency is great.

[@vladimirljubopytnov5193]

I think big part of that low system power is due to not utilizing the 4090 fully. I would try to strangle all processors in the video to same power level to judge the efficiency... its not bad, but it is already great with zen 4..

[@Innosos]

I know, right? The 7800X3D is phenomenal!

[@magikarp2063]

You can already have it from the non x 7000 series. People forget that the X variants are not what you buy, ever.

[@c2ashman]

For gamers the 7800X3D is still the best choice right now.

[@lithari1480]

technically, it really depends on how much fps they are going for, i go for 120fps at most at 1440p, i think i personally would tolerate a lost amount of fps for less heat, its just my opinion.

[@scottcerato4473]

​@@lithari1480 ill take the fps gains in game my 7800x3d only hits 62c , never ever has it ever gone over 70c full load even when doing ML training

[@magikarp2063]

Or 7600, that is actually by far the best value gaming cpu.

[@ChaxO7]

At these temps 4:28 I don’t think the 7800x3d is still the best tbh 😂 Because it will need more thermal paste every two months and it will age faster…

[@lithari1480]

@@scottcerato4473 in your case, sure, but for me, my 7800x3d get to 75c when playing demanding games, which then makes the GPU get hotter...faster and since most of my games i play, while some high demanding, i can easily reach 120fps which is my chosen fps limit, so i can be happy to lose some fps and from other sources i have seen most of the games i play, match the 7800x3d, i guess those games don't use the 3d cache effectively or at all, so as i said i would gladly lose some fps to also lose some Cs. lol

[@seikuri2]

Im.. honestly most impressed by the temperatures tho? like damn... those 9000 cpus run cool?! So we swap the 9000 for summer times and the 7000 for winter so we can heat our homes. sounds like a good idea to me.

[@bobr8766]

Great job Kyle!

[@DaPoets]

I like Turtles

[@kotztotz3530]

Me too man, me too

[@butterbirne1060]

@@kotztotz3530We all man, we all

[@jaylen9609]

Real

[@kevinmeireles3934]

I don't, but Rafael is cool

[@victor555117]

Apparently

[@lCountMike]

Only ones you can compare right now are 7600x vs 9600x and 7700x Vs. 9700x eventually with 8600g/f. When new x3d come out, only then you can compare with earlier x3D models.

[@mquinnusa]

Thank you. Just wacked 9700X into a minisforum MS-A1 build.

[@DogwafflDan]

Thank you for a realistic well rounded look at performance vs. power efficiency.

[@przemeksz8203]

so if you have a 7000 series no reason to upgrade but if you have 5000 or lower then its ok to buy 9000 for power efficiency alone

[@EldenLord00]

Exactly

[@bushi1147]

Thanks, Kyle, for giving a decent review instead of calling it a dunpster fire.

[@dereknguyen9127]

im currently SOL with the current intel drama i am running a i9 13900k daily and it is scary to think that the mass of these chips are dying is making me wanting to switch to am5, the switch will be affordable as i have most of the stuff already just need mobo and cpu

[@HM-rz8nv]

It sucks big time! Fortunately the zen 4 CPU's have been going way down in price. If you're a gamer, I highly suggest going for an X3D AMD chip, they are simply the best for gaming. I see the 7950X3D go anywhere from 473 used on ebay to 516 brand new. Also, i suggest keeping tabs on the 9800X3D and 9950X3D - their release is on the horizon, but will be quite a bit more expensive than the Zen 4 counterparts in the same tier. I hope you can sell those intel parts for a somewhat okay resell.

[@ZackSNetwork]

You definitely don’t know what your doing if your in fear lmao. All you have to do is go into bios and sync all cores, turn off AI OC and set clock speed to 5.7 GHz. You should also limit power draw to 253watts as well. Then there will be no degradation at all.

[@AxleLotl]

Ah! This review is so refreshing! HUB, GN and J2C all shat on this chip due to it's minute performance increase over the 7700X while glazing over the overall importance of it's power and thermal efficiency. LTT thankfully also put large emphasis on it's efficiency and PBO still allows it's full potential to be unleashed should that extra performance be required. Many consumers need to understand that if all you want is performance rather than efficiency, then you're better off with Intel... oh wait... x'D

[@crimsonjessi]

I have a feeling ryzen 7 9800X3D is going to be insane 👀

[@lithari1480]

and also insanely hot......pass.

[@alimodz6253]

@@lithari1480 how would it be hot? given amd has improved the temps drastically

[@123skillax]

​@@alimodz6253I was wondering why my 8600g get 98 degrees

[@Keloot]

@@lithari1480 wat . the 3d chicps are the coolest runing.... do you even have a pc?

[@markperalta4831]

Man. I wished I started with AMD rather than Intel. I was a total noob back then. 5800x3d should've have been my cpu between an Intel i712700k . I went Intel because it was something familiar. I regret my choice

[@pmthekillerr]

Just to let you know, when i checked, your's and linus's videos are out at the same time. But I'll always chose you Kyle 😃👍

[@heirtothethrone000]

I was gonna ask if you saw yourself installing a Ryzen 9000 CPU in the $3000 Velka 3 build you did, but I got the answer at the end of the video. I'm definitely looking at doing an SFF build in about another month or two, so this was a great video for me.

[@PaulieNoCommentary]

What ppl don’t understand is the fact they will most likely play at 2k or 4k…that means for example here in the EU atm the price diff can be 200/300€ more. I don’t know about you but I don’t see myself paying 600€ for 9800x3d(yea 7800x3d it’s close within 50€ diff) when I can just purchase for example a tray 7700(non x) for 240€ and put the extra 300€ into a beefy GPU. All that if a budget it’s given. If you don’t care about money just buy w/e even from scalpers and GGs

[@tomasnovotny7298]

I did the same thing. Also same logic like you described. Went with 7 7700 - stock cooler - another cost down. Waiting for RTX 5070Ti which will be costly AF ! But still excited and can't wait :)

[@the_defaultguy]

AMD is just competing for itself at this point

[@2629derekhale]

So .... wait for Ryzen 9 9950x3d

[@kevinerbs2778]

9800x 3D

[@thornstrikesback]

If they sort out the parking problems that the 7900X3D and 7950X3D have, the 9950X3D could potentially be the better gaming chip over the 9800X3D when they are released and all the teething bugs are sorted.

[@EldenLord00]

If you plan on getting a 4090 or 5090 😂😂

[@theroach02x]

I have had my eye out for the 9700X for cooler running while still having high speed capability. Best in the market for them categories? I think my crazy head can run it for longer w/o having the urge to throw it through a wall or maybe a window? I think higher heat will also reduce reliability of run time

[@EmArgh]

How good is the 7900X3D vs 7800X3D ?

[@kevinerbs2778]

the 7900x 3D is slower because it's two CCD's & only one has 3D cache on it while the 7800x 3D is only one CCD which is better for gaming.

[@hxion]

You can get a 7800x3d for 230 right now at Microcenter if you buy it with ram and mb.

[@auritro3903]

11:26 15th gen 'Rocket Lake'? Did you mean 'Arrow Lake'... or do you know something that we don't 🤨

[@LiLBitsDK]

STILL miss you and Pauls livestreams back in the days... /mourn... you were both entertaining together and took up "news" and other stuff that didn't get much other focus elsewhere...

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Hope you are feeling much better

[@veganporkkebab389]

yes looking at mATX build next.

[@sevypleb]

thanks for testing out thermals!

[@itsdeonlol]

Thanks Kyle!

[@benknapp3787]

How is anyone getting these type of thermals with 7000?????? My 7800X3D stays ridiculously cool with a peerless assassin (2 fans) and factory fan curves. Literally has never even been over 75c under max loads, let alone 95c.

[@kevinerbs2778]

No PBO adjustments then?

[@torts560]

Thanks for this review. 9700x has come down in price a lot and runs so much more efficiently than the 7700x. I'll be able to get a cheaper heatsink and make up the difference between the 7700x price-wise. It will be less to drive in the long run due to the power consumption as well. Performance gains are negligible, but I know where I'm leaning right now.

[@f10italia]

100W less than the 7800X3D makes the 9700X a more attractive proposition for me particularly as my room feels like a blast furnace when playing games at 4K with my RTX 4080.

[@IoNoobMaster]

Great to see you back. I just ordered a new system myself, and I went the 7700x route because it had a really good price at the time of order and I could fit a 4070 super in the budget because of this. It was cheaper than the 7700, about 100$ cheaper than the 7800X3D, and about 80$ cheaper than the 9700X. Unfortunately, performance/dollar doesn't help for people outside the US.

[@Zombie101]

Ngl kinda hate AMD for the dumb prices of the 7800x3d. It was £320 for months in UK and now its nearly £500

[@PaulRoneClarke]

The big drop in power requirements is a good thing. I wonder if AMD will release "Boost" version of these chips that are 20% faster but need 45% more power at some point in the next couple of years. I'm sure they have the speed overhead - if you are prepared to pay the power and heat cost.

[@RocketLR]

Switching over to AMD soon. When do the 3D cpus usually drop?

[@fizanadnan2]

there is rumours that it will be September but they haven’t confirmed anything yet

[@Keloot]

next year...... 2025 its like a few months.

[@kenwilliams3279]

Ryzen 9000 is convincing me more that my Ryzen 5950X will be my workstation until socket AM6 is releasd.

[@pitchatan]

Just going to touch on why i really don't like the usage of various games for benchmarking purposes.. As you touched on before, some engines seemingly do not scale well based on clock speeds and only actively scale based on core/thread counts.. This is completely down to how the engines work overall, i.e what kind of job scheduler they are using. A lot of engines opt into "chunking" where they send fairly large instructions to each and every thread, which will give fairly consistent results but will be COMPLETELY bottlenecked by the amount of cores/threads you have on hand.. clock speeds DO NOT matter here because of the size of said job chunks. This is why you see certain games between 9700x and 7700x have a 8-12% difference and below 1-2% in the next game while the 7700x3d will crunch instructions simply based on the core count (as well as the engines scheduler)... It is completely down to optimization and overall design of an engine... If you want to really test cpus then use Doom Eternal, they have an insanely efficient job scheduler that spreads out instructions across ALL cores and does not end up choking said threads... in terms of behaviour it works closer to a very efficient video encoder (e.g cinebench), the gpu will be the deciding factor here instead. What i would like to see is games like Doom Eternal with potato settings (to remove gpu limitation as much as possible) to actually gage how performant these cpus really are when compared to each other.. i am also VERY curious to see if a game like doom eternal can actually gain a lot more off of PBO being in use because of how their engine works. And just to press this idea... i have a 6900x and a 5600x... everything on low in eternal i get anywhere around 250-400fps at 1080p with 99-100% gpu usage. I then tried the same 6900x on a 7700x and was anywhere between 320-500fps, again with constant 99-100% gpu usage. I could probably down the resolution even further and the divide would only get larger.

[@rileyhance318]

is the power usage increase on the 7800x3d coming from the 4090 being utilized more?

[@EldenLord00]

Yes

[@AoABlodhgarm]

Nice....thanks big K!

[@paulmartin2348]

I am going to be building a new system in the near future and with the information about the efficiency of the 9000 series AMD chips I might take wait and see if their 9800X3D chip is worth building a system around. Thank you for another great review.

[@Gardus82]

I want to upgrade my mini mini pc (NR200) in the living room, used mainly for games and media. I'm still running a 4750g (basically a 3800x with less cache and integrated graphics, bought during the "gpu draught" during covid), along with a 3080, which will remain. It's deschrouded with two noctua, very quiet. The 9700 fits the bill nicely, good thermals, good performance increase, AM5 has room of future upgrades. The old AM4 will go in another non-gaming system where the integrated graphis are again in use.

[@nexusvideo]

65 watt cpu equals quiet PC. I hate noisy systems.

[@zackw4941]

I guess this is a more positive review than some.. Hopefully the higher efficiency will translate into relatively better clocks on the upcoming higher core count and/or X3D chips.

[@laszlosarkozi1385]

Hey Kyle, you just said 2090 to Cinebenench R23 score of Ryzen 9700X... That would be VERY LOW, but luckily the chart showed 20090...

[@kevinjacobsen483]

Do you recommend the 9700x with air cooler or a more expensive AIO? how many FPS less does the 9700x versus 7800x3d ?

[@ZackSNetwork]

Why not just get the 7800x3d or wait for 9800x3d?

[@cerevor]

Going by these selections, it seems that the new processors are mostly faster in games that produce insanely high fps already. However if the fps are moderate, it makes no noticeable difference. Probably something that needs more investigation (also for example with less high-end GPUs). But I guess it's plausible, since the improvements, as I understand it, are more on the periphery of the core and not so much in the calculation department.

[@shev9127]

i'm on a i5 9600K and i'm thinking on getting the 9700x cuz its just a little more expensive than the 7700x but with a X670e board since the new boards aren't available here yet

[@chrisregister8021]

I love the efficiency of the 9700 X ❤

[@rolandogarcia6383]

El Ryzen 7 9700x cuesta $199 en Amazon no está mal por el precio. Este precio es con envío lento , pero cuando el 7800x3D también está a $199 en Amazon USA el 9700x no vale la pena

[@Lorenzoxxxxxxx]

When does the rest of the new CPUS come out??

[@julianduquemin7701]

What would your choice be going from a core i9 9900k to AMD?

[@djgilby8904]

I'm going with the 7800X3D.

[@anoniem1987]

Again am missing the PBO numbers. I know it's not out of the box behavior, but for a lot of watchers it would be a valid option, and makes it a much better deal against the 7700X

[@robotface42O]

7800X3D is now 800 in canada, not even 2 weeks ago it was 600, which was 100 more than the usual price

[@paalosordoni7932]

My 7800x3d peaks around 55c in games using around 49watts of power, -30 undervolt rock solid.

[@IntrovertClint]

I thought my heart was beating so loud at the end of the video haha

[@mattirealm]

I think this is fair. I really LOVED hearing GN and HUB rip these new processors up this morning. However, it does make a case for upgrade if a person is on Zen -1 or 2 or lower Zen 3 platforms. The biggest problem is that the 7600 and 7700 X are just better value right now. I knew those "weak" IPC gains that AMD showed off were dishonest, and this goes against what they were reporting. Thanks for the review!

[@smthsmth]

Color choice for the graphs is utter disaster. Who made these for you? A colorblind person?

[@oscarcharliezulu]

I like how it’s a lot more efficient for the same or slightly better performance. I know that’s not popular but it’s a good thing. But who cares what I think… what does Lyle think ?

[@true_warrior69]

Ryzen 7 7700 costs 180$ on aliexpress and gets 19600 points in cinebench. Ryzen 7 9700x costs 300$ on ali and gets 22000 points. And that's in rendering. In games and tasks that don't require cpu performance there's nearly no difference. I don't see a reason to buy 9700x now, better buy 7700 and when the time comes update it to the next best price/performance cpu

[@arupian666]

2:33 I'd love a 7800X3D for that "current" retail price. Pretty much the cheapest I've seen it is at around $420

[@chrisregister8021]

Those tests are all at 1080p I plan on playing at a higher resolution so would the 9700x still be as good of a choice?

[@CliffArmijo]

The higher the resolution you go, the less it matters how powerful the CPU is because the majority of performance if being put on your graphics card. So yes, the 9700x is still a great choice and more than likely all you will need for whatever card you are running.

[@Adrix896]

The fact that 7800x3d is 450€ here in Latvia, meanwhile 7700x is only 260€.

[@willanrac]

I feel like there is a bios update down the road that will make this a different atory.

[@orogin1]

You should also add an efficiency graph. In watts per FPS.

[@TortoiseInvesting]

Where are we finding the 7800x3d for under $400! I need links!! lol

[@petemisc4291]

Are you running the 9700X at 65tdp?

[@kevinerbs2778]

Please test mGPU on shadow of the tomb raider 3D cache chips are overrated.

[@Paelmoon]

Damn, it only took a month for this to age like milk. 7800x3d is gone missing or so high priced its not worth the bother.

[@mysterymachine693]

I am upgrading from a 3700X in two years alone the 9700X will pay the difference in electric savings against the 7700X. I pay £0.23 per kwh. So a year of 8 hour day use for work and 300 days a year of use = £30+ savings a year. Get the 9700X. Yes I play games as well but the 7800X3d isnt worth imo if you work as well with the PC.

[@CaptainCave-t3n]

Definitely waiting for 9900x or 9950x 😮 Just ordered a B650E Taichi ASRock and i need a processor.

[@omni9177]

I have a 7800 x3d no need for me to change.

[@l--l1443]

you probs wont need to switch for a decent amount of time

[@vagamer522]

@@l--l1443I would switch in a heartbeat if they announce an x3d version of the 9000 series. If the 9000 can maintain cool temperatures while getting close to x3d frames then imagine how good the new x3d chips will be in the future.

[@l--l1443]

@@vagamer522 yh i thought id wait for the new xd chips, in meantime ill stick with my ryzen 5 3600 :)

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@vagamer522Very true

[@antoniocepaj7544]

Yes.... I completely agree... My needs are both scenarios, and I don't care about 5-10fps more/less. 9700X is almost perfect. + I'm not gonna need to buy better cooler than one I have.... Noctua chromax NH-L9x65 CPU cooler, in a Asus Mini Tower Prime AP201 Mesh PC case. I'm glad I waited for 9000 series. After CPU, next on a list is GPU. I was thinking about ASUS RTX 4070 DUAL 12GB ? I prefer Nvidia for GPU.

[@diyathkumara2443]

Embargo season is upon us

[@Killer128_TF]

I seen by now some of these videos from other creators and it just occured to me they are leaving the door wide open for future 9700XT chips down the line.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Keep in mind that the 7800X3D went to as low as $310, and can only go down in price, even though motherboard prices probably won’t be changing that much 11:27 oh boy I didn’t know 14nm was making a return /j

[@Brownwaffles]

the 5800x3d is still 330 bucks so by the time 7800x3d drops in price youll probably want a new platform anyways

[@vagamer522]

@@BrownwafflesIts not like most motherboards to this day use zen 5

[@Allyinchains]

Microcenter has bundles for both 7800x3d at 599.99 and 9700x at 449.99. I game at 1440p so I feel more inclined to choose the 9700x for the better price for not much difference between the two chips at 1440p. I'm curious on anyone's thoughts on this. I'm wondering if I should even upgrade from my 10700k at this resolution.

[@petemisc4291]

What specific model of Teamgroup memory did you use, I’m in the market for DDR5 for the 9700X

[@Optimusprime1993and2]

How many months for Ryzen 7 9800X3D ?

[@pushaanbangera6030]

Is the non X variant (7700) good in terms of editing and gaming?

[@lazylegend9148]

He is aliveeeeee

[@Rakanay_Official]

the only CPU i would wait for is the Ryzen 9 9950X3D

[@jeffrey1296-rl1mi]

In super basic terms, either get a 9500f or wait for 9800x3D

[@mirzahasher]

Anyone know when the 9700X3D would come out?

[@futurewolfjackson1628]

would it kill them to show one 1440p max settings and 4k max settings. im sure they are similar but how.

[@jrwong2181]

Which one to buy if upgrade from 5700X?

[@Mondo_Mike25]

So basically the 9700x can compete with the 13600k/14600k and thats about it... Oof..

[@cftyckct]

Didn't you switch the 7700x and 7800X3d in the power consumption graphs? I have never seen a 7800X3d consuming more power then a 7700X!

[@asmod4n]

thats because the 7800x3d can utilize the GPU more, resulting in higher power draw of said GPU.

[@user-eu5ol7mx8y]

Is it possible to manually inrease the power limit for the 9700X?

[@DethNade]

The new AMD 9700x it not worth the price point right now. Just stick to the 7800X3D for gaming.

[@welcometoronsworld6589]

After looking at Kyle benchmarks it seems all AMD on the Zen 5 CPU all AMD was worrying about is power Consumption then the IPC performance uplift in gaming since the Ryzen 7 7800X3D bet the Zen 5 Granite editions. If I was in the market in building a gaming system all over again on the AM5 platform the R7 7800X3D and if I was on a budget the R7 5800X3D or the R5 5600X3D. once again Intel failed with the 13 gen and 14 Gen issues as well AMD falling right behind them. AMD Should be ashamed of themselves with the Zen 5 lineup. Kyle nailed it towards the end 7800X3D is were to go for gaming needs on the AM5 Platform.

[@RicardoMachin-hn4hs]

It is worth it to upgrade to a 9700x from a 5600x ?

[@nexusvideo]

I would wait the better part of a year for the initial price to go down. Plus any hardware issues will have been dealt with or revealed by then.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

*What is your workload?* _Gaming_ or _Non-gaming_ or _mixed_ ? *Gaming:* No, 5800X3D (or 5700X3D) is a good upgrade. 7800X3D if you "need" AM5 but I'd wait till December for 9000X3D first. *Non-gaming:* 7950X, 7950X3D or wait for 9000X3D CPUs to see how the 9950X, 9950X3D, and 9800X3D compares.

[@RicardoMachin-hn4hs]

@@MichaelPohoreski thanks, gaming, I'll wait to see what the 9000x3dcan do, or pickup a 7800x3d if I find it cheap

[@RicardoMachin-hn4hs]

@@nexusvideo thanks