Ultimate WSM MODS/Kettle Mods/Smoker Mods

I wanted to be able to not only smoke meat but to also grill on my Weber Smoky Mountain 22.5, so this video shows how I made a very small modification by installing an extra L shaped bracket on the four main grate brackets bolted to the middle section of the smoker. Four holes were bored, one on each main bracket and through the mid section of the WSM 5 inches from the top grate. Once the brackets were installed, the new 21 inch grate could be layed down which will become the charcoal grate which will be 5 inches below the grilling grate just like most grills especially like a weber kettle. With this grilling setup, all assesories used on a weber kettle can be used on this WSM KETTLE setup in the kettle cooking mode. So, in essence, this now becomes a hybrid type smoker/grill which can be used to smoke or grill.
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[@BabyBackManiac]

That's awesome, Phil. I've love to see you cook something on that.

[@progers5019]

Baby Back Maniac uploading a Cowboy Rib-eye cook. Everything worked fine. with a 3 pounder, I needed more heat. Should've used lump. Live n learn.Thanks for watching Justin.

[@stephanieyeminez89]

Hi baby back maniac

[@maximilianfiedler5173]

@@progers5019 may i add somthing that is possibly well known already, but i was quite pleased with recent results. Your Video motivatet me to think out of the box. There is that Moesta BBQ Pizza-Ring, that makes a pizza oven from a kettle grill when combined with a Pizza stone. That Pizza-Ring works perfectly fine with the bottom and the top of the WSM - just in case youre intrested. Enjoy life!

[@truthteller1951]

I’m glad Phil still pops up in my algorithm. Thank you for the tips and tricks, rest in peace.

[@x1cculusx]

Still an amazing idea. Rest in peace Phil. Your videos are missed.

[@howardcoville5667]

Hi Phil great idea. did mine. Took the brackets off and drilled the holes. used recessed headed bolts. saved drilling holes in the smoker. brackets back on, fit flush. didnt want any rust in time around the holes. watch your videos all the time. keep up the good work......Howard

[@progers5019]

Howard Coville That's great. Be proud. Now you have a hybrid smoker & grill. Congrats

[@chrismcmeekan5550]

hi Howard, do you have any photos of what you did with the recessed headed bolts

[@sfitz-rp4du]

This video just put me over the edge! I'm officially getting a Weber Smokey Mountain to improve my meat-life! New subscribed and look forward to watching your other vids. I wish it was 95 degrees in freezing cold Chicago.

[@progers5019]

Thanks for subscribing. The Weber Smokey Mountain is a great cooker and so versatile. Love cooking on it. Glad you like the channel. We love to cook good food and have some fun doing it.

[@starchild1314]

Implemented mine much the same way you did, many of the same components. I also bought a water pan cover. Which becomes a ash catch when using as a grill. I can now grill and smoke on the same unit. Last upgrade will be the hinge for the lid. I was able to find some "L" brackets for the grill at home depot, which did not require knocking out the pins. Thanks for the ideas.

[@progers5019]

starchild1314 Hey that's great. Glad you made the mod. Grill on or Smoke on. Now you have a choice. You have a HYBRID. One of very few people. Thanks-Phil in Florence

[@KB_BBQ]

I finally got around to doing your modification after using the original lower grate position as a fire grate for a couple years now. Now that I have the fire grate level raised to 5" I'm happier with the fire being closer to the meat. Thanks Brother Phil, Cheers!

[@progers5019]

Hello KB, just now seeing your comment. I'm glad you made the mod. It's easy and cheap, and so useful. Thanks for letting me know.

[@jamesstuart64]

Very well thought out PHil. I have a 22" Weber kettle-grill and a 18" WSM and I have actually thought about how I would turn my 18" WSM into a grill when I need to grill 6-8 steaks at the same time. If I had a 22" SMC I would take advantage of your mod this weekend. Now just need to modify it for an 18" WSM.

[@anthonyquantuman730]

Hi Phil.. I'm from the UK and viewed several Videos about WSM.... Brilliant ideas from you and like your gentle cool words (Your not all macho and Loud....LOL) I'm going to look up the rest of your Vids....Stay safe...

[@rickwischer1318]

This is a fantastic suggestion. I bought the vortex today and am going to do this mod. Only difference is I'm going to try & find a thin flat head screw that will fit behind the brace & smoker body rather than drill through the mid section. Thanks Phil!

[@progers5019]

Rick Wischer yep, that is another option. I had planned to do that but the few places I looked couldn't find any to my liking. Good luck.

[@PotatoWhyKid]

Great idea! I have the 18 WSM and also an 18 Jumbo Joe. The Joe is my camp kitchen (and I Love it), but the charcoal is closer than a traditional 18 kettle which limits it I feel. Now I can have the best of both worlds for a few bucks and a little time. Thanks for the idea!

[@avishairosenfeld1643]

What a good idea! I really wanted to buy a smoker but i also wanted the ability to grill well. This solves that dilema. Thanks

[@imkeerock]

This is awesome! Thanks Phil! I have a new mod to do to my WSM now. This will allow me to add a rotisserie attachment as well as the charcoal will be much higher in the drum.

[@SuperFredasse]

Great mods, I've done it, cooked on it, and loved it. Thanks buddy for the video!!

[@bryanjobe7213]

I got a timberline 1300 Traeger, 26” Weber kettle and I want a wsm and still don’t think I’d have enough room. Only 25 but man I sure love cooking, grilling and smoking. Cook on people!

[@HBSuccess]

Late to the party but wanted to let you know there's no real need to drill the porcelain coated body at all. Just countersink the BACK side of the new holes in the straps and use Flathead machine screws from the back to mount the clips.

[@johnroy4508]

Awesome modifications! Thank you for sharing these ideas! Happy grilling and smoking! I will get a setup like yours!

[@timberbeastwaco]

Phil, I did the grill mod to my 22.5 WSM back when I brought it home, tonight was the first time I used it. The 20in grate slid sideways with the chinimey on it. Almost a fail, I did find out the top grill grate from the kettle fits just fine as a charcoal grate on the wsm. I am told the charcoal grate from a 26in kettle will fit, I can't find one to put a tape on. I love not having to bend over to cook. Oh top of tab to top of tab on the mod is 6in. Also don't need a vice, I placed the shelf tab on my lineman plires and knocked the pin out just fine. Keep up the good work Miss. Phill keep him in line. Mark/Waco

[@progers5019]

Timberbeast Waco Hey Mark, glad you got it worked out. The grate I bought for the charcoal is a 21 inch grate and will not slide off. Thanks for the feedback. Glad you are grilling on it. Much easier to stand straight up and grill. Thanks-Phil

[@The08roadking]

You just made up my mind on getting a WSM instead of a weber kettle. Great video. Thanks

[@christophermurphy]

Awesome thanks for sharing Phill perfect solution since my space is limited I can have the best of both worlds in one grill.

[@kennyhummingbird6442]

T 15:07 thx for your advice its awesome i have a 22” wsm and in 2 weeks i was just about to get a 22” Weber kettle do you realize you saved me some money. Thank you. Thank you thank you

[@danherr32]

Phil-- I had already added the clips for the extra grate on my wsm from watching another You tuber and the only problem with using the wsm as a kettle grill is that I did not think of it first!! ;)--Excellent idea!! Thanks!

[@bardicdad]

Good tip, and a much better solution to taking the midsection off for grilling in a pinch.

[@progers5019]

Thanks, yes grilling directly on the bottom section works in a pinch, but with this simple mod, you now are operating as a bonified kettle. Watch some of my wsm videos kettle style. I love it. Thanks-Phil

[@davidfuertes1973]

You know the funny thing is that the Kingsford Charcoal water smoker is made for grilling as well as smoking and I really never thought about converting the weber smoker to a grill but I will now. thank you

[@progers5019]

Yes, Weber could make the WSM come with this feature with just adding these 3 extra brackets and 21 inch grate. But, they don't want to do that for obvious reasons. I love using it as a grill. I'll have to take a look at the Kingsford water smoker. Thanks David

[@augustwest404]

Phil I belive you have turned the WSM into the perfect all around charcoal cooker. Thanks for taking the time to share this information.

[@progers5019]

That middle grate at 5 inches down for grilling is a winner. Thanks

[@SH-xq4dq]

Hey Phil thanks for the video mod , with the Weber rotisserie or even better the Openfire rotisserie/ pizza oven bundle this will fit on top of the WSM and work well with the 22 inch grate mod you did when lid is detached from hinge 😉

[@AzraelsPitBBQ]

Awesome! I gotta be honest, I haven’t watched your mod vids. Simply because I had no interest in modding a Weber. Now I am gonna go watch them all! I love how well you have demonstrated the ability to really expand on a great product. Well done Phil!

[@progers5019]

I admit that some mods can be purely vain cosmetic stuff e.g. stainless steel door (which I have), but the majority of the ones I did are very beneficial. 1) lid hinge- must have (IMO) 2) side handles- must have to move the 22.5 around 3) casters- must have so you can move the 22.5 around 4) Bolted vent extensions- optional but very handy 5) extra grate in bottom inside charcoal ring- optional but useful-ext life small pieces of charcoal preventing from falling thru to bottom 6) Replacement temp thermometer on lid- Optional but better dependence, quality & visualation. 7) Grilling brackets- Not required or necessary, but this mod offers the Weber Smokey Mountain smoker to also become a grill in kettle fashion, and allows user to use all kettle accessories. At the time I did it, it cost me about $12. 8) Stainless Steel Door- Not required or neccessary, but looks good. 9) Door replacement handle- Not neccessary, but some say is better. Accessories I use- due to mod #7 except 5-7 below will work anyway 1) Weber Gourmet Grate system (center cutout for woks, grates, etc) 2) Slow n Sear 3) Drip n Griddle 4) Vortex 5) Cajun Bandit Stainless Steel expansion Ring & Rotisserie 6) Weber Original 22" Expandable Smoking Rack 7) Weber Warming Rack (2 different models)

[@AzraelsPitBBQ]

PHIL IN FLORENCE Wow! Thank you for sitting down and putting such a detail list together! Ya know, about that stainless door being cosmetic...let me ask you this; does it seal better or do you need a gasket? One thing I do not like about the WSM is that POS flimsy door. LOL. Also, when I was smoking ham hocks last weekend I told Amy I needed to look into putting some handles on that thing. We were running a snake that was lasting about 4 hours and had to lift that thing off to extend the coals. Handles are a must! After all these years of cooking offset and nearly the past 5 straight cooking wood fire in a reverse flow, I am really looking forward to playing with the WSM, beyond what we have been using it for (smoking sausage and such). And I can’t say enough about the duality of the Kettle mod. Talk about a no brainer!

[@progers5019]

Exactly how I felt about the kettle mod. No brainer, I know right. The SS Door is nice, very sturdy not flimsy feeling. When I put mine on, I experienced a slight gap on top right. Some guys may not feel comfortable doing this, but even as rigid as it is, it does have some flex with a little handling and persuasion. I kept pushing in on the corner and side roll until it would lay flat up against the wall of the mid section. Turned out ok. Some guys have put gasket material or silicone around the door, but I didn't see where it was an issue in cooking. A minor puff of smoke once in a while didn't concern me. But you can do that if you want. Yea, lifting that hot mid section off without handles could be a bear. I do like the SS door. Looks very good, and it is not flimsy like the aluminum.

[@jeremyleonguerrero9492]

Phil those are some great mods. Saved me from buying a new kettle. Lol

[@jeydub8541]

Good stuff! My friends and family look at me like I'm crazy when I get the idea to modify. But they still eat what comes off my smoker. LOL

[@progers5019]

Just now saw your comment. I'm not getting all of my notifications. Sorry. Yea, doing mods some of us just have to do it. Thanks for watching, and thanks for the comment.-Phil

[@mandreyka]

Some great mods there , that piece of equipment right there will do EVERYTHING

[@progers5019]

Hey Mike. The modified WSM is my favorite cooker. Thanks-phil

[@moedoleh3758]

Hey Phil. Thanks for the awesome video. I just picked up a 22" WSM, and I'm currently modifying it for BBQing. I'm recording all the steps, so hopefully I can upload it to KZbin to help people interested, the same what you, and others are helping us.

[@chrismcmeekan5550]

did you end up recording a video moe

[@guillermoparedes6450]

Great idea for the charcoal grate clips. My 22 wsm is arriving Tuesday and I'm going to use your idea and add clips to mine. Keep the great videos coming I really enjoy watching yours and Tom Horsemans mod videos.

[@progers5019]

Guillermo Paredes Thanks for watching and the comments. You will love being able to grill on the smoker also. When grilling, do not use the water pan below to catch grease. It impeades the air flow enough to prevent higher temps. You can cook in it just like a kettle, and the temps will go up to 450. I'm considering adding 3 more vents about half way up the mid section so it can draw more. This will help withhigher temps and hold them longer. I think. Stay tuned

[@deanvoss7098]

That's a lot of work for an extra grate. I'm not that ambitious I'll just use one of my 4 kettle grills for grilling. My 18 in WSM is over 20 years old and at the time of purchase when I put it together I put garage door handles I'm the middle section and that is the best mod that I've done

[@lildapp76]

Thanks Phil for giving me a shout out appreciate it !

[@progers5019]

lildapp76 You betcha. Thanks

[@woknhamnunya2247]

Just seen t roy do your chicken bbq on the weber smokey mountain. Thanks for the video. New subscriber .thumbs up

[@progers5019]

I appreciate that. I was thrilled and honored to see him do that. Thanks for the sub. Cheers

[@woknhamnunya2247]

@@progers5019 Weber Smokey Mountain rules

[@woknhamnunya2247]

Weber Smokey Mountain rules

[@fredbulkley9747]

Your grilling mod is exactly what I was looking for, and seals the deal that my next cooker will be a 22" WSM to replace my rotting-out ACORN kamado. Thanks for the info!

[@progers5019]

Fred Bulkley Hey Fred. This mod on the WSM puts it in a class of it's own for the money. It is not only a great smoker, but now a kettle and can make use of all weber kettle accessories, which I have many of and use all the time on the kettle and WSM. A big advantage of the WSM is the dome lid which allows more room for warming racks and extra meat, and the three levels of cooking. Glad you liked it. Go for it.

[@jasondavies7948]

That is an extremely versatile smoker you have there Phil! I'm kind of in the 'I've got a kettle right next to it' camp at the moment, i've got the SnS and DnG in my 22.5 and that's my small scale go to. I guess i'm reluctant to go drilling any more holes than i have to beyond the hinge and widening the temp gauge hole but that may change in time!

[@progers5019]

Hey Jason. I understand. I'll probably end up with a kettle too pretty soon. Just trying to decide between a 22 or 26. I have ordered several accessories for the 22 since converting my wsm to take kettle setups. I do like the extra room a 26 gives you when you use the vortex and do wings. My wsm kettle setup does good but it gets crowded when I do a lot of them. I break out the warming rack (2nd tier). Also, it's good to have the option of two grills for anything that comes up where I need to cook a lot of meat. The metal in the wsm is very tuff and drilling a few extra holes in it will not compromise it. Just be sure to apply some high temp black paint in the hole. Thanks for your comments. Phil

[@macteesac]

I told my brother in law to give me one of his 22" wsm since he had 2. And it was all modified already 😂

[@mikeruizesparza1514]

Phil after your mods video i bought and installed lid hinge on my 22.5 inch WSM and it work excellent. Thks for great ideas. Keep up the great work

[@progers5019]

Hey Mike, I'm so glad you installed the hinge. I'm still loving it. Can't imagine having to set that lid somewhere every time I lift it open. Top needed mod, or maybe next to the extra brackets at 5 inches down so to use WSM as a grill. I appreciate you letting me know. I know you already love it. Well worth the money spent. See ya

[@progers5019]

I admit that some mods can be purely vain cosmetic stuff e.g. stainless steel door (which I have), but the majority of the ones I did are very beneficial. 1) lid hinge- must have (IMO) 2) side handles- must have to move the 22.5 around 3) casters- must have so you can move the 22.5 around 4) Bolts added to all vent brackets to prevent burning your hand when adjusting hot vents during cook- optional but very handy 5) extra grate in bottom inside charcoal ring- optional but useful-ext life small pieces of charcoal preventing from falling thru to bottom 6) Replacement temp thermometer on lid- Optional but better dependence, quality & visualation. 7) Middle Grilling brackets added 5 inches down from top grate for an additional 21 inch grate- Not required or necessary, but this mod offers the Weber Smokey Mountain smoker to also become a grill in kettle fashion, and allows user to use all kettle accessories. At the time I did it, it cost me about $12. I love this mod more than any of them. It turns the wsm into a kettle for grilling. If you already have a kettle, it gives you a second grill for the times you need extra capacity for family cooks or large parties for burgers/dogs/chicken. Plus the high dome allows you to double up more with warming racks which actually act as smoking racks during low n slow. 8) Stainless Steel Door- Not required or neccessary, but looks good. 9) Door replacement handle- Not neccessary, but some say is better. 10) Santa Maria Grill accessory from Gabby"s Grills. Sits on top the wsm bottom section 11) Cajun Bandit WSM Wheel & Cylinder Lock Kit (added year and half later) to keep the middle section from jumping off the bottom when moving the cooker around on pavers with uneven joints. It locks the two sections together, plus it includes new casters with the kit. 12) Stack Rack mod doubles your grating system. See Joe's WSM over at Joe's BBQ House KZbin Channel to see how he has 8 grate levels using the bolted stack rack system he designed. He uses the lid from the kettle, the mid section and bottom of the wsm, then also a cajun bandit extension ring. With this setup, he can stack 8 grates. You have to see it to believe it. Accessories I use- due to mod #7 except 5-7 below will work anyway 1) Weber Gourmet Grate system (center cutout for woks, grates, etc) 2) Slow n Sear 3) Drip n Griddle 4) Easy Spin Stainless Steel Grate 5) Vortex 6) Cajun Bandit Stainless Steel expansion Ring & Rotisserie 7) Weber Original 22" Expandable Smoking Rack 8) Weber Warming Rack (2 different models) 9) BBQ GURU PORT 10) Steel Heat Deflector 11) Large stainless steel charcoal basket- Arbor Fabricating 12) Stainless Steel Minion basket- Arbor Fabricating 13- Beast Basket large charcoal basket- Greg over at WOODSHED Smoke and BBQ channel.

[@jasondavies7948]

Hey Phil, I just fitted the hinge to my WSM today, man that is going to be such a great help in our restricted garden space, i agree the best mod to make. I've also swapped out the thermometer and fitted the ss door which assisted improved air control as my stock door leaked, handles next I reckon then wheels. I'm giving some thought to your grilling brackets - have you used yours in this capacity since you got your kettle? Great videos as always my friend, thank you for being a bbq inspiration

[@progers5019]

Jason Davies Hey Jason that is great. Wheels and handles are a must for this big cooker. I just used the WSM yesterday to smoke chicken. I hung it PBC style using the Weber expansion rack. Gateway Drum hanging rack will also fit the WSM. Way to go Jason. Thanks for the feedback.

[@jasondavies7948]

I managed to pick up a weber hanging rack after seeing Mr Baby Back's hanging video, i've used it a couple of times but I'm looking for the opportunity soon to use it again. Thanks for replying

[@rustykc]

Hey Phil, love this video! I honestly think the ONLY thing your missing now are some grill grates for some steaks but if you've seen the cold grate technique you may not even want them. Have a great day and can't wait to see some videos on your new WSM. You're gonna have to name that thing! Its just to much of a beast not to have a name!

[@progers5019]

Rusty KC yes grill grates and all the rest of the "STUFF" will be added. Chris Biggs from Biggs Home Cooking named it "BABY" when he stated that baby is ready to go. It's a HYBRID baby. Thanks. Maiden voyage cook going on as we speak.

[@rustykc]

PHIL IN FLORENCE I can't wait to see Baby in action!

[@tangojoe9694]

Nice job Phil. Next purchase is going to be that hinge, a must have in my opinion. Great tips on that charcoal grate @ 5" down. Can't wait to see the first cook on that.

[@progers5019]

Tango Joe Thanks Joe. Yea, I'll definitely be Firing the Jack (as my late Navy uncle use to say) on this WSM Hybrid Kettle. More playing and testing vent settings and temps. That lid hinge is well worth the mulah IMO. Thanks for watching and the comments

[@OneTenBBQ]

Great job on engineering your WSM to work for you. You can call it WSM hybrid. Love the video.

[@progers5019]

Thanks Tim. It will work. Thanks for watching and the comments

[@grezdo1]

Love the cap!

[@TheDarthSoldier]

There's also an aftermarket attachment you can buy for the WSM that turns it into a Santa Maria grill too. I'm looking forward to getting me one of those

[@calvinstulip]

Great suggestions! I just got a WSM 22 last week. Thanks for the upload.

[@progers5019]

calvinstulip Great, make that a COMBO, drive around and pick up your grilled cheeseburger. LOL

[@adwnpinoy]

Could you just attach the brackets to the screw and nut for the side handles? Do you need to drill new holes instead? I get that they won’t be as evenly spaced out, but wouldn’t that still be sturdy enough?

[@markscott4059]

How does the 3rd rack work with the slow n sear? Great Idea!

[@isaacromero87]

Great Mod video! I have a 22 WSM going to try some of these Mods. Love to see a video of it grilling. 👍🏽

[@progers5019]

Isaac Romero you will soon.Thanks for the comments and for watching.

[@josephmcmillion882]

Nice work man Might wanna throw some side vents closer to the top by coals for grilling, better air flow closer to coals vs bottom. Keep them closed during smoking.

[@MrScottcollier]

Nice mods. Will keep this in mind for the holidays.

[@progers5019]

Scott Collier Great sounds good .Thanks for watching and the comments

[@mikeruizesparza1514]

Awesome mod ideas for tha WSM Phil. Congrats for your creativity. Will certainly follow many of em

[@progers5019]

Mike Ruiz Esparza Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for watching

[@BiggsHomeCookin]

I think your on to something here Phil... great modification, a hybrid it is! Those shelf clips were perfect supports for your coal grate, and I liked how you popped the pin out of them. Great accessories also for your new grill. Glad to see you measured the distance between your coal grate and cooking grate to make sure the Slow 'N Sear fit. How about we give her a name? Then we can fire this baby up and see her in action! Hey , will call her Baby... Thanks Phil... you have a good one : )

[@progers5019]

Biggs' Home Cookin' Hey Chris. Yea this "Baby" is a hybrid. Might just let Baby sear me and mama a Cowboy Rib-eye for dinner. Thanks for watching and the comments

[@smokinjoes9383]

PHIL IN FLORENCE Thanks for sharing! Awesome mod to your WSM know your set up like a UDS, not sure if those are SS brackets but, that would be the way I'd go if I was gonna add that mod. I got a good laugh when you said "gotta get me some of that" 😃 Take care & Happy Smokin' ♨️

[@progers5019]

Smokin' Joe's BBQ LLLLLL, yea and I did get me some of that. Thanks for the comments

[@rayc76knoxville]

Excellent idea on the grate. What I may try is to get the 21" grate and put that on the lower position of the WSM for holding my charcoal (no drilling) to use when I'm gilling chicken. That would be excellent since I'm always careful of grilling chicken and burning it. The extra distance would be good I think. What do you think? Thanks.

[@progers5019]

Yep, you're right on the money.

[@rayc76knoxville]

@@progers5019 Thanks. As we speak I'm watching another of your KZbin video. You must be rich from putting in all your time and producing all these excellent videos. Thank you again for sharing.

[@progers5019]

@@rayc76knoxville putting in a lot of time yes, rich no. Thanks for watching.

[@grizzle273463]

Phil ur the kinda guy everyone wished was their Uncle. Gary from Denver NC

[@progers5019]

Gary Miller LOL, thanks Gary. I really appreciate that. I'll be yo HUCKLEBERRY. LOL. We just be havin fun, cookin n grillin, and eatin some good food. Thanks for watching and the comment-Phil

[@gerardocruz9604]

hey 👋 just wondering if the thremometer probe grommet will burn out ,since it's not meant for extreme heat , and being next to the charcoal ???

[@jessejames7075]

You should still get a kettle to grill on, they are their own level of amazing!

[@progers5019]

I have a kettle and love it. Have most accessories whichwork on both. Thanks-phil

[@spartan2.082]

like the video and appreciate the thoughts as I am WSM owner and user also. Yet that being said, your low side has to much air space under it to mimick a kettle. I beleave it would mimick the kettle more accurate for the low and sear proccess by eliminating the barrle section and fire ring. by putting your sear accessory on the coal rack and then the rack you will have mimicked the low side cooking of the kettle just by putting the lid on the bottom section without the barrle section. just an idea that I have used with great results. Grilling is all about trying, thats why we do it. Appreciate the video.

[@HeavyMetalBarBQue]

Hey Phil…… Brilliant idea! And only for a couple bucks invested… Nice! Going back to some of our early conversations……..I'm glad You decided to go with the WSM! I believe it's all about the options…….and You've taken it it to a new level. You are definitely part of the Grill Hack Club now! I'm proud of You……. Smoke On!… and keep Hacking! \m/

[@progers5019]

Heavy Metal Bar-B-Que Does a bird dog point? In the blood. Yea, I was 2 clicks away from either ordering a Pit barrel, building a UDS, and 1 click away from buying a Kettle. Like you said in one of your vids, the WSM can do it all. with the original smoker setup, the meat extension hanging rack, and now a kettle grill, I'm covered with options. Thanks for watching and the comments. Haven't forgot you.

[@stubanshuberi8793]

You are thinking the same thing i did on my UDS Phil which was to grill and smoke....i also recommend the drip and griddle to catch the drippings along with the slow n sear Excellent Phil im Subcribed

[@progers5019]

Stubanshuber I Much appreciated. Thanks for watching and the comments and the sub

[@donnas3968]

When I first got my WSM a few years ago I bought the lid hinge. It made the smoker top heavy and I couldn’t use it. Has the lid hinge been perfected so it doesn’t make the smoker fall backwards? Thanks

[@95SLE]

Nice tips on the cheap. I see some BBQ love coming to my WSM.

[@progers5019]

Yes, there are some worthwhile mods without much expense. Thanks-phil

[@cornhusker2006]

Another great benefit is not having the wife complaining about another outdoor cooking appliance on the patio.

[@mycosporum]

Greetings from México. Thank you for this. I'll certainly do this once I get a WSM.

[@Trekker57]

Hey Phil, I was so impressed with this mod that I started to modify my Weber Smokey Mountain 18.5 inch smoker to replicate your mod. I'll keep you informed and send pictures when it's completed. I think this is a stroke of genius!

[@progers5019]

Paul Desrosiers Hey Paul. I thank you for the kind words. This small inexpensive mod makes the WSM a powerhouse combination grill/smoker. I've been grilling on it (and smokin) ever since. You'll be glad you did. Thanks for letting me know-Phil.

[@jayjacobs1504]

Been bbqing long time, just like all reading comments . I believe you need 3 grills 1 kettle grill, weber 22 inch, 2 smoker, wsm 22 inch, and 3 cheap propane grill for emergencies and vegetables .

[@nayfrench]

Phil, while the mods are awesome as well as the video. I must add this food for thought. While you're considering adding more space for grillling you also just added another rack for even more slaps of ribs or whatever else. Now that 22 can easily hold 9 racks or ribs. Thats amazing! Hey can you possibly upload pics of that handle so we can see closer up what you are doing to hold your thermometer on. I like that idea as well.

[@progers5019]

nayfrench It's a short piece of pipe abt 1 1/4- 1 1/2 with large flat washers on each end. Something big enough in diameter for the clamp to grab. That is a piece of old vacuum cleaner wand pipe I had in my shop (junk drawer). You could use some emt conduit or a 3 inch pipe nipple. You can pick up a 1 8inch steel 5/8 bolt, 3 5/8 flat washers, 1 5/8 lock washer and a 3 inch long 1 1/2 inch piece of pipe.

[@timberbeastwaco]

i just did this on my 22.5 wsm, i measured down 5.5 in from the top of the bracket, by doing this i was able to use my slow and sear, also the weber 26 in grill has a 22 in charcoal grate. i have not tried the grate yet this weekend.

[@progers5019]

Good job bro. You are ready to go now. Grill or smoke. That's great. Used mine again today. Thanks for the feedback

[@mrjager2775]

So innovative and well thought through! Going through your other videos after this one. Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@progers5019]

Mr Jäger Thanks for watching and the comments. Tailgating wings with the Vortex this weekend

[@guitstikkustoms4448]

Steve Job's never had an original idea, he used ideas from others. That is a fantastic mod to your WSM and worth it's weight in gold if it works for you. Be well brother.

[@progers5019]

Guitstik Kustoms Thanks for your comments and for watching

[@crBudgetWatches]

RIP Phil 🥲

[@Mikey-tb4xt]

afternoon Phil the vortex your using what is the diameter top and bottom ?are you pleased with what you got or would you go to a larger or smaller size ?How are your vents set on top and bottom ? THANKS ............ (GO DAWGS )

[@optimusprime3692]

I already love my wsm! Didn't know about the mods. Thanks

[@progers5019]

Yes, you should be. It's an awesome cooker without a single mod. Thanks for watching.

[@Kenney9120]

Could the 22.5 WSM handle low and slow over the charcoal like the Pit Barrel Cooker? What about cooking with wood? Can it be modified to produce the nearly invisible smoke of an off set barrel Cooker?

[@hmemcpy5807]

Baby Back Maniac sent me! Great video Phil!

[@progers5019]

Igal Tabachnik Ooh that Justin. He surprised me. Wasn't expecting that. I knew he was uploading a video today but didn't expect a shout out. Let me go watch it. Thanks a lot for dropping by and letting me know.

[@JRoman1970]

Hello from up north in Michigan. I'm John this video is exactly what did it for me. Next week I'm going to order my 22 wsm and I'm going to attempt to do this it's freeking awesome. I'm just getting on board with grilling and smoking any changes and or must haves for the wsm i need could you give me some advice or tips. Thanks phil ur one awesome guy. I subscribed to your channel and love all the videos great job can't wait to see the next one. Happy Easter to you and your family.

[@craigsavage6093]

Great idea, but I have one concern. The 'new' grate for the coals is the same gauge of steel as the cooking grate, which isn't as heavy as the stock coal grate. I believe I would buy another coal grate and place it on top of the new 'cooking/coal' grate. Besides that, I like it!

[@progers5019]

Craig, the grate I got from Amazon for 12.98 2 yrs ago is porcelain coated. I've cooked directly on it with charcoal 50 times. After I brush and wipe it off, it looks brand new. It is holding up better than Weber's carbon steel charcoal grate. No issue cooking directly on it or building my fire on it. Other than a stainless steel grate, porcelain coated is the way to go. It will outlast the standard grate. I have weber charcoal grates which are rusted and warped, but the porcelain coated grate is like new.

[@blackshirt5530]

PhiL- I definitely want to convert my wsm to do slow n seat.what did u use to attach shelving brackets onto wsm? Well done

[@progers5019]

I used (4) 1/4 x 1/2 inch stainless steel carraige head bolts from Home Depot, and a 1/4 inch drill bit. Use a smaller bit to drill a pilot hole first. A step bit could be used.

[@tewy79]

Love this Phil, great idea for a hybrid.

[@daveshouseofbbq]

Thanks Phil. You’ve given me some great ideas for my WSM.

[@progers5019]

Dave's Ohio BBQ & Cooking Thanks Dave. If you add the brkts, you can use the smiker as a grill, and take advantage of all the weber kettle accessories like you see in my vids. I'm loving it.

[@SonicBoomC98]

I might try this. My idea was to always just used to bottom section. Of course I also have a 18 and 22 Kettle

[@joebrindisi2588]

Hi Phil, The question I have is do you drill from the inside or outside of the WSM when putting in the shelf tabs 5-inches down? It seems to me that drilling from the inside would be more accurate. Also, if drilling from the inside, how much porcelain is chipped out on the outside? I have the WSM 18.5 but want to get the 22 inch model. I love all your videos and keep them coming please!

[@newrevivalist]

That's awesome ingenuity Phil! I'm currently dreaming up a kettle accessory with multiple capabilities, and you'll be able to use it with your 5" spacing. You just expanded my potential market. But if I had a WSM, I'd be digging out those shelf pins and expanding my rib capacity as well as someone posted below. Great job, and don't sell yourself short on the imagination my friend.

[@progers5019]

Thanks for the good word Franco. It's good to hear of your ideas and enthusiasm. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@ahuete71]

This is such a great idea Phil....Do you think I can do this with a WSM 18??? Im sure I would need to get a smaller grate (like a 17 in.) I think Weber makes one. Your thoughts??

[@jesv4026]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Phil passed away couple months back. Heard it in another channel. Person in the video pays homage to Phil

[@ahuete71]

Jes V Oh no!!! I didn’t know that. How very sad

[@oldschooliron4873]

That's a great mod to the Weber Smokey Mountain ! Thank you Phil!!

[@progers5019]

Oldschool Iron Thanks. It's good to see others taking advantage of it. Turn that smoker into a hybrid kettle. Thanks for watching and the comments.

[@4000marcdman]

Great video, great mod. This is the perfect first grill/smoker now. Kill two with one .

[@progers5019]

You are right. This modified WSM is my favorite all around cooker.

[@fishingfrenzy259]

Just subbed from south Louisiana great content just purchased Webber smoky mountain 22 did three butts as a first trial run used a whole bottom ring of lump charcoal was going hot n fast no water pan wrapped once they got up to temp lump charcoal ran out threw in oven last 30 minutes to get to 200 degrees Ive been cooking on a Kamado for the last three years I could have done two long cooks with that much lump is that normal for smoky mountain to use a lot of fuel I did notice smoke leakage around front silver face plate and lid would like your feed back. Thanks

[@progers5019]

Hello and welcome to the PIF Channel. I do use some lump, but usually just to get my larger offset going quick or the Santa Maria style grill going mixed with some Kingsford Blue Bag. I'm gonna get my good buddy Greg over at Woodshed Smoke and BBQ @Woodshed Smoke & BBQ with Slowhand to come in on this reply. He uses all kinds of wood, lump, and different charcoal and can give more insight on that. He has a WSM 18 and 22 and has all of the mods I have done. He put some gasket material around his door he can tell you about. I have a stainless steel door from Cajun Bandit which fits tight but still may have a puff sometime which does not bother me. On the amount of charcoal, Greg runs a lot of the Kingsford Blue Bag too, but recently during a sale at HD he picked up a lot of Weber and Kingsford Premium which burns very good. We both use an extra large capacity charcoal ring (he and his welding buddy made). He just did a test with that thing and it maintained 225-235 F for 54 hours. He filled his water pan with sand. I normally do not run a water pan unless I do brisket, and do pretty good. Always runs without adding charcoal. Plus, the wsm will run better after you've had half dozen cooks to get it seasoned.

[@fishingfrenzy259]

The Woodshed Smoke & BBQ with Slowhand I wanted to thank you for the detailed answer you provided me I agree the smoke ring and flavor surpassed the kamado I am going to sub your channel I did have another question the hinge mod for the lid on the 22 WSM any idea If the cover will still fit once mounted. Thanks

[@JamesEvans514]

Very well done!!! I am impressed.

[@progers5019]

Thanks James. Cajun Bandit now sells a bracket kit with this third bracket for a third grate. They must have liked my video too.

[@sting1111]

South Carolina love that state and your hat.

[@progers5019]

Thanks Brother, someone back up the comments called me a gun nut. lol Thanks for watching.

[@gsbbq4870]

Great Idea. Going to do that myself.

[@elitesfactoryprossessing144]

I did the same mods and it works Awesome! Thanks for the ideas.

[@progers5019]

elites factory prossessing Hey Jey Hey. That's great. You will love it. Thanks for watching and letting me know. Seeya

[@BBQJOE]

Yes sir.. Even though I have 2 Weber kettles, I'm going convert my wsm to grill too. I have a different approach to what I'm going to do but I really like this idea. Thanks for sharing this with us Phil.

[@newrevivalist]

I was just thinking how silly that Weber didn't think to add those four little brackets . Or do they want you to buy both cookers?

[@progers5019]

Yep, you got it. They could add those brackets for pennies and have a smoker and grill. But, they would lose one of their cooker markets. Thanks-phil

[@anthonyboji3075]

Question. Once the holes are drilled through the bracket and body, what hardware (screws, nuts, washers, etc) are you using to hold shelves in place ? Does the hardware protrude from the exterior body?

[@jesv4026]

Not sure if you heard but this gentleman passed away couple months back. Heard it from someone else in another channel. In their video he pays homage in their video to this man.

[@TheJohnnyMannion]

You are the boss brother!!! Love all of your bbq hacks!!!

[@starnet36]

Where did you get the hinge for the lid and what size is it?

[@meatcranium4280]

LOL. I laughed when you said, "I gotta get me some of that". I no longer have one of them Smokers, however, I do like watching your videos. Your an NRA man👍🏼, you are a GameCocks fan, you still good, I'm a Seminole, however my sister went to USC and I love Columbia, SC, first place I had a Chili and Coleslaw Dog.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@progers5019]

Thanks and I got your other note. Thanks for the advice. I think it's a big deal for WSM owners. Yea, America's safest place. Yea, I grew up in Sumter only 45 min from Columbia. Our HS mascot was Gamecock so it kind of was a continuation. My wife is Clemson Tiger and her entire family. All my kids are split, so a house divided. I love Clemson too. I defenitely was a Clemson fan that day they won the Title. You have to pull for a state team when it's for something like that. Thanks for watching and the tip. Oh, and I got me some of that action. More to come

[@meatcranium4280]

PHIL IN FLORENCE My first disagreement with you. I would Never back the Florida Gators in anything especially to win a National Championship. I have never seen a Blue and Orange alligator.

[@progers5019]

MeatHead haha I understand

[@KatMa664]

Is there any reason you can’t just remove the middle of the wsm and grill on the bottom? Lots of wsm copy cats on Amazon are convertible from smoker to grill for like $100. They have several advantages just like clamps that hold the middle and bottom sections. Some thing that Weber does not have. They have a sealed door which the weather does not have. I mean I have a Weber. And I wasn’t sure about the quality of some of these copycats. But they look pretty darn good to me. I was very tempted to get one for less money than I bought my used 18. I could’ve had a brand new one but it wasn’t a Weber. So I just wasn’t sure about it.

[@Food_D]

You have a great channel Phil. Looking forward to watching more of your videos. I've subbed!

[@progers5019]

David Hughes Thanks David. I appreciate that. Just took a peek at your channel and saw lots of interesting videos I want to look at. Subbed ya back. Thanks-Phil in Florence

[@Food_D]

PHIL IN FLORENCE thanks, I’ll look forward to it.