Ultimate X-Men 5 Review | They Said X-Men!

[@glenngatlin8475]

I'm loving this book!!! Really different in a cool way!!!

[@spiderknyt]

Mutants are a government experiment in the Ultimate Universe. Wolverine being the 1st mutant. If the Maker changed history, there might not be any literal mutants in the new Ultimate U. So if mutants will begin in Japan, it will should make sense. Or Marvel just wants their version of My Hero Academia.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

i like it - it is nowhere near My Hero

[@commonsense5199]

Yes, they finally say X Men! And Common sense gonna break this down. 1:42 Glasses-Kun’s full name is *Shinobu Kageyama.* Shinobu means stealth and endure. It fits with him. As he is always sneaky and patient Thank god Shinobu has no connection to Xavier. I would piss if he does. 2:35 Yes she is. In Main 616 continuity, Surge is titled *“The Rebel.”* I don’t mind Surge is a villain in 6160 continuity. Surge is always Snarky and outspoken. I was right without the X Men existing due to The Maker’s meddling, Surge went on a different path. 3:12 I notice that Hisako, Mei and Noriko have Scars. You think Peach Momoko is going for the physical mutation? I looked up the word Psykers, all I found it relates to Warhammer RPG and Fallout. I have not played those games. Surge cannot read minds. She has electric powers and super speed. 4:28 Either Amatsu-Mikaboshi The Chaos King. He is a god and it fits with the cult. Or the villain, *Ogun.* He can transform into a spirit. 5:44 I believe the X is metaphor of the X Gene. 6:06 Either that or Hisako is traumatizes that Shadow King MindFreak her. 7:27 This is where I am trying to figure out. If there are mutant who can give other people like regular humans the X gene, they’re not mutant is more mutate. Like Mr Sinister and Deadpool, they got powers from mutants but they not mutants they are mutates. I really hope Mr Sinister doesn’t have a 6160 counterpart. I have this theory that would explain how Natsu has a connection to Cyclops. Mr Sinister existing in 6160 continuity would ruin my theory. 7:47 The Maker did killed Logan and the Maker keeps Logan’s adamantium skeleton in the Damage control storage house. so there is a possibility. But then again, Ultimate issue 2 show mutants did mutant rights, as Jim said later on. Also The Mutants from Marker’s home-world, earth 1610 are not part human evolution. Earth 1610 mutants are all existed by mistake from the government who tries to recreate the Super Soliders Serum. And Logan from 1610 is patient zero. I remember Dok told me he quit reading the original ultimate x men comics after the reveal earth 1610 mutants are not part of human evolution. I do agree Like the times main x men deals with Magic is Inferno, Limbo, Goblin Queen and Magik. Most majority threats the original X Men deals with is science, genetics and time travel. So it is possibly, the maker has done magic to mess with mutant populations’ genetics. 9:28 That how these psychics do. The printed on the host and track them. Shadow king done this before with Storm. He did it with Legion show. And Elias Bogen done it with Jeffery Garrett. Elias didn’t possess Jeffery, Stephanie Willams and Steve Foxe. You Hacks You notice ever time Shinobu wears that bucket it have papers of spirals that look like eyes. 12:55 I have remind you guys, In 616 continuity, Surge ran away from home after he powers manifest. She said her father doesn’t believe in mutants. After she ran away she becomes homeless in America. So this Surge in 6160 continuity might be homeless as well, but she use her powers to kill and get money as only to survive. This is a great way to have foil and rivalry with Her and MayStrom. Both rebellious, both have electric power both have terrible dad. I say this before. 13:48 You guys got me worry for a moment. Surge spitting gum at the Poster of Sunfire shot down my theory she is working with him and his Harada-Yoshida alliance. I mean come on that would be cool. Read New X Men: House of M to understand. 1:55 The Cult. This can work. Because have been organization that hidden from society. *Hellfire Club.* is closet this to represent as cult. Even Brotherhood of Evil Mutants can represent as a cult. Even *Apocalypse* has a cult who worship him as a god. I do believe Peach Momoko lean on the idea Mutants are gods. This happened before. 2 examples, *X Man: Nate Grey* where it focus on Nate when he was displaced into Earth 616. Nate questioned himself if he can use his powers and rule the world as a God. I remember Jean told Nate, *“we are mutants, Not gods.”* And Legion TV show, Shadow King show Legion beauty of these powers they rule humans as gods. Legion even said he is god. Legion even had his own cult in final season. I really need to speak Peach Momoko in person. She must’ve took inspiration from Legion tv show. I made many examples in past videos. 16:38 I thought it was gonna be Sunfire as the leader. But all we got is just a poster of him. 17:58 Yeah it was like in every cover. Even in first appearance of Hisako in Ultimate universe she failed a test that has an X on it. It really funny and great that females gave themselves name x men. Remember that controversy of lady who wants change the x men into X people. That is stupid. How about X factor? Or Nation X? 19:53 *Do you want to know my Theory how Natsu has connection to Scott Summers?* I do like this issue but again it not filling enough. I really wish this series weekly rather than monthly. Like, can Hickman reach out to Viz Media so these issues can be weekly. Viz done marvel manga before. We made history of Dok reading Spider man fake red. I bet he’s gonna read Spider Man Doctor Octopus Girl. Yes that is a real marvel manga. *Edit: Jim, How does Steve Orlando have the privilege to get his comic series to be weekly?* 20:58 I found the trade of Peach Momoko’s Ultimate X Men is only gonna have 4 issues not the whole 6 issues. Okay to blame? CB Cebulski? Seriously only the trades of Ultimate X Men and Ultimate Black Panther gets 4 issues while other trades have the whole 6 issues. I do like the art it really great as always. I give this a 7.5 I had high expectations because last issue Surge reveal Hisako’s powers was in the internet. Surge mentioned this at start of issue 5. I expected the law enforcement of Hi No Kuni would try to take Hisako away. I mean Mei asked Nico is okay to leave Hisako by helfself. Nico said she’s big girl. I say no. It not okay to leave her at home. Solicits of the Ultimate comics reveal in issue 8 in Peach Momoko’s x men, *The Maker’s Council will be involved.* I really do hope so.

[@kelpietales4503]

I really hope Ultimate X-Men's (&UBP's) trade does have six issues instead of four and that's just a typo. It doesn't make sense as this series alone feels its initial arc is suppose to be six issues and six is the normal number for most trades of on going series with some exceptions. Also with the series does read better as a trade.

[@JasonColby]

Didn't get to say it on the video, but "Shinobu" also makes me think of the 616's "Shinobi Shaw". Shinobi is also a kid who gets born into a family connected to a sketchy organization (in Shinobi's case, the Hellfire Club). But I might just be seeing connections that aren't there.

[@YTLawnGnome]

So I have been very much invested in this story just because it is very different. It has also been fun with a subtle darkness which I think keeps the intrigue. I am still very much on board with this title. Better than the regular X-Men stuff for sure.

[@FearMonarch]

Im bailed Its a fine enough story, but at 5$ a pop for what feels like a couple of pages of story each time, its not worth it for me. I still love the art and the story is fine enough, im just going to sit it out and wait for the trade or a hopefully complete hardcover when its done or gets to a big "break" part One thing i did notice, most of the time, you get the trades or the collected versions, and theyre never "cheap" like the issues individually would be 40$ then the trade is 35$ but it does save you a couple bucks usually. The ultimate X-Men trade was announced and its 20$ for 4 issues in a paperback. That's literally the same 5$ price per issue, whats the motivation for people to get that instead or vice versa? Which was really what put the nail in the coffin is the thought of spending hundreds of dollars of cover price for books that plummet to the "two dollar average" for any old comic right before a nice big oversized gets announced for another hundred or so on a hardcover and I'm scrambling to sell a shortbox of dwindling interest and valued comics

[@Oeeshik]

Where is Professor X, did he go to get the milk and never came back? The premise of this series should have been what the original 5 X-Men would be like had Xavier not come and get them as kids. Iceman would probably have been run out of his town, Beast would have been exploited by the Conquistator, Angel would be a vigilante, Marvel Girl would lose her mind from her incrasing powers later on, and Cyclops would be Sinister's Puppet/exploited by Jack O Diamonds. What is Wolverine doing? Did Weapon X ever happen? Wolverine without a tragic past? This is what should be seen, not school girls doing school girl things that just so happen to be mutants.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

They have shown wolverine’s skeleton - you think the Maker would create a world without heroes and just let the original x-men run around????? He is kinda smart you know

[@commonsense5199]

I do have this theory of how Natsu is connected to Cyclops. I believe Natsu is the daughter of Cyclops and Colleen Wing. Yes the same Colleen Wing from daughters of the dragon. Did you know Chris Claremont planned Colleen Wing to be a love interest for Scott as to a way help him to move on from Jean Grey after Jean supposed died. And this is before Madelyne Pryor existed. Sadly the plotline got shafted because the write Jo Duffy decided to bring Colleen Wing back into Power Man and Iron Fist. Now my theory is 1st the obvious, Colleen Wing is Japanese. 2nd Since the Maker has meddling Earth 6160, including killing Wolverine. I believe The Maker has meddled with the original x men. He might’ve made Scott never meets Jean because Jean herself and her children with Scott pose a threat to The Maker just like Wolverine. So if Scott and Jean never met. There is no host for the Phoenix to possessed(And it is Possible we saw The Maker on the Moon) Cable, Rachel Summers and Nate Grey, The X Man were never born to stop the Maker. The Maker made Cyclops fall in love with regular human like Colleen Wing so he won’t posed a threat to him. And you mentioned Mr Sinister. We haven’t seen him. I do hope The Maker use his knowledge to kill or imprison Mr. sinister so he never created Madeline Pyror and Cyclops can have a supposedly normal life with Colleen Wing in Japan. That is my theory of how to make it work. And if I am right I really surprised that Peach Momoko have made something that Chris Claremont original plan actually happened.

[@Oeeshik]

@@WeirdScienceComics So why those every other book have most of their core characters while every notable X-Men seems missing. Hell, where are Magneto, Apocalypse, and Sinister? Maystorm who is a Storm stand in and that one little girl with the eye patch who is an obvious stand in for Cyclops is lame as hell. And Sunspot and Wolfsbane are still around with their powers according to Ultimate...and they are just protesting.

[@Oeeshik]

@@commonsense5199 This is too high IQ, what we will get will not be anything like this.

[@commonsense5199]

@@Oeeshik Well we have to wait and see. The solicits of the ultimate marvel came out the synopsis of Ultimate x men issue 8 reveals the Maker’s council would be involved.

[@brandoncortez666]

This is a step in the right direction. The biggest issue is peach is creating a self contained story that makes no mention of the greater Ultimate universe which is way more traditional hero storytelling. How long can she intend to keep this going ? Idk. Especially at this price point for just a self contained kid manga it’s a lot to ask. They say X-men but this isn’t an X-men book yet. Can the larger audience accept this type of storytelling when the antithesis of this is going on in other books …. I’m interested. I’m engaged. My LCS tell me many have already dropped the book.

[@wmwhitedevil]

Yeah, the way Peach got to naming them X-Men was super clunky writing, very forced. It didn't make sense to have the group of girls decide to call themselves X-Men. I thought X-Team would've been better, honestly, X-Club, X-Squad, X-Girls, X-Almost Anything would make more sense for them. This just kinda makes them seem like a group of tranny's by calling them X-Men when they are all girls, though I do not think that is what is going on. Overall, I do still like this book. It is so different from all the other comics I get that it breaks up the monotony when reading a new stack. It's basically like a palate cleanser, wich is very much the way I feel about a lot of the Archie Comics as well so I guess it's kinda on that level, to me at least.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

i would have liked a name that made more sense - X-Girls or New Mutants would have been better

[@muriok2474]

I'm really enjoying this book, came for the art at first but the story is intriguing to me

[@88playmkr]

I love this book and I’m not a huge fan of manga

[@WeirdScienceComics]

i am a huge manga fan and love the book too

[@EricOSullivan]

All the Girls are Heroines, all the Men are Creepy or weak "self-deleters". I dropped this from my Pull List. Because this book is a bummer IMHO. Not Fun. 5 issues now and no X-Men action. Lots of wheel spinning. Great art nonetheless!

[@WandererofTheAlgorithm]

I love manga, been reading it most of my life and I don't see any similarities of this comic and manga other than the fact that the comic is written and drawn by what I'm assuming is a Japanese woman. I just dropped this series, I hung in there for 5 issues and I do not get it. Its boring, the story is stupid and the art is terrible in my opinion. It sucks because I really wanted to like this series because I love all of the other Ultimate books. Idk, maybe I'll check on the series again some months from now and something will have actually happened.

[@johnsmith-kh1im]

It's dumb they think this is why Manga is surprising Marvel comic's, and I got a feeling that at the end of this, there's going to try to make every comic look like a crappie weebtoon.

[@WeirdScienceComics]

disagree 500000000% Why would they do that? This book isn't the best-selling Marvel Comic so why would they even try that. It's because it takes place in Japan and they wanted a different style for a book in a different Universe. Next you'll say they will write everything like Dogman!

[@johnsmith-kh1im]

It's pretty obvious that they don't sell. That's my point. you can't beat them, then join them by making their comics trash weebtoons. It's not marvels first attempt at this, and it won't be the last.