Does Deshaun Watson deserve all the blame for the Cleveland Browns 1-5 start?

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@CycleCruza
@CycleCruza 3 ай бұрын
Horrible o-line, bad play calls by Stefanski who refuses to give up play calling, receivers dropping easy catches (butterfingers Cooper), etc, etc. How can Watson play well when he only has 0.2 seconds to throw the ball? 🤣 Watson has shown flashes of great play, he could have won against the Raiders had Cooper caught that easy catch that bounced off his chest to the Raiders and they didn't get that bogus holding call. Y'all are the same ones who trashed Baker when he did bad with the Browns (played injured). Now y'all are riding with Baker because he is balling with the Bucs. lol
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@CycleCruza 🤣
@trippeddownthestairs8238
@trippeddownthestairs8238 3 ай бұрын
Deshaun Watson is not the only problem with the Browns, but he is a major problem that hasn't shown any signs whatsoever of being part of the solution. When the Browns traded 6 draft picks for Deshaun Watson and paid him a $230 million dollar fully guaranteed contract, it was with the expectation that he would elevate the talent around him. And right now, everyone else on the team is expected to carry him because he is not contributing anything at all.
@klove5765
@klove5765 3 ай бұрын
I think it's important for Ownership to make this work, sign Deshaun to a long term deal
@nerothelost9605
@nerothelost9605 3 ай бұрын
Everyone is to blame. Fire em all.
@chrisc3118
@chrisc3118 3 ай бұрын
Time for the team to move. I could care less at this point. Garbage team as always except for a 2 brief moments in time thanks to the NFL schedulers for giving the Browns 2 very easy season schedules while Stefanski was HC of the Browns.
@Laxalis77
@Laxalis77 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 agree and start all over new roster and management
@jcage9095
@jcage9095 3 ай бұрын
Uhh no. Kevin is a good coach. The Browns have had Shanahan and Todd Monken in the organization. They're good coaches. You can't just fire the damn coach everytime.
@chrisc3118
@chrisc3118 3 ай бұрын
@@jcage9095 Shanahan presented a 30 slide ppt to get out of his contract with the Browns.
@jcage9095
@jcage9095 3 ай бұрын
@chrisc3118 Yeah, and why do you think he did that?
@aldenduffieldIII
@aldenduffieldIII 3 ай бұрын
“Miss me yet?” -Baker Mayfied
@abdulsmith1569
@abdulsmith1569 3 ай бұрын
H no stay where u at
@Mlambk333
@Mlambk333 3 ай бұрын
Not the same Baker Mayfield/ Better organization 2021 Super Bowl Champion Different Situation
@aldenduffieldIII
@aldenduffieldIII 3 ай бұрын
@@Mlambk333 And he has found his home. They love him, like the CLE fan base still does. Clevelanderz would give their left nut for some Shake N Bale
@tbone8737
@tbone8737 3 ай бұрын
Moving on from Baker when they did was among the dumbest moves the franchise has ever made. Then they executed the dumbest trade and guaranteed contract in league history.
@aaaDKaaa
@aaaDKaaa 3 ай бұрын
@@Mlambk333 bro save your strength. The person you are responding to does not watch the games, they watch stats and X post.
@straightedgemikey3967
@straightedgemikey3967 3 ай бұрын
Let's face it. Browns GM and owner will not sit down Watson due to the contract. Not paying $230 million for a backup QB. Browns tried to make a good move for QB and it backfired. When Watson said he did not want to come to Cleveland. Should of left him in the dust.
@youngmuggzy85
@youngmuggzy85 3 ай бұрын
Best comment said in 2 years.
@GBear1223
@GBear1223 3 ай бұрын
Go baker go baker go baker go baker go baker💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@paulchimenti8542
@paulchimenti8542 3 ай бұрын
A Tale of Two Cities: Cleveland Browns 1-5 Tampa KerMayfields 4-2 "It was the best of times" "It was the worst of times"
@wendellthomas179
@wendellthomas179 3 ай бұрын
That is a DUMB comparison 😅😂🤣....idiot
@ronwilliamson-uz7kb
@ronwilliamson-uz7kb 3 ай бұрын
No the owner deserves blame. But on the field yes. Massage Man is the problem.
@KFreshHarris
@KFreshHarris 3 ай бұрын
Winston nor DTR isn’t going to save the Browns for the millionth time! This QB talking points by the fans is pointless more like disappointing.
@alexcika9906
@alexcika9906 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree 90% of these Clowns know nothing about Football bro
@SteelSquad412
@SteelSquad412 3 ай бұрын
Bro I’m a Steeler fan and I follow every team in the AFC North daily. And I agree with you 100% ! I’m always wanting the browns to do better to keep this the toughest division in football! But Winston isn’t the answer! Neither is DTR! I don’t think the browns franchise QB is currently on the roster . Maybe the draft next year ….i hope you guys find a way out of this slump though . Sometimes I just don’t think Stefanski is tough enough do what’s necessary to stay successful in the AFC. Yall need a more “ No Nonsense “ type coach. One that would’ve gave Watson an ultimatum before this season even started , and one that would’ve had a contingency in place after losing both of the QBs that took this team to the playoffs . Good luck Dawg Pound 💯
@alexcika9906
@alexcika9906 3 ай бұрын
@SteelSquad412 hey man great text you Steelers fans have been lucky with coaches the Roonys run a class organization Mike Tomlin is a helluva coach he make an average team good , ya the Browns are a hot mess as far as I'm concerned like I was saying lose the rest of the games and draft a Stud QB and get some Lineman
@SteelSquad412
@SteelSquad412 3 ай бұрын
@@alexcika9906 thanks bro. Yeahh i don’t think the browns should tank or anything because I don’t think the new browns are the same as the old browns that were content with top 5 draft picks every year over success. I think everyone running the team now under Stefanski wants to compete for Lombardis but unfortunately nobody has a backbone to make the necessary changes and the hard calls. Like Deshaun starting still, like letting go of Joe Flacco because of Deshaun, like letting Baker go because of Deshaun. And everything they’re doing now to act like they didn’t make any bad choices when In the construction of this current roster. The quicker they can admit it’s not working or ever gonna work , the quicker the Browns can develop new confidence and potential with any QB not named Deshaun Watson .
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 3 ай бұрын
​@@SteelSquad412It's kevin stenfanski
@tafuppittsburgh
@tafuppittsburgh 3 ай бұрын
kevin is losing the locker room
@ouroborosnagyok9306
@ouroborosnagyok9306 3 ай бұрын
already lost it
@renaissanceman3903
@renaissanceman3903 3 ай бұрын
He lost it in 2021.
@hayseanward
@hayseanward 3 ай бұрын
If his hands are tied, players are smart, it could be possible that the players have given up on Haslam and not Kevin. I think Kevin’s hands are tied by Jimmy. Open your eyes
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 3 ай бұрын
​@@renaissanceman3903Facta
@chrisc3118
@chrisc3118 3 ай бұрын
It was lost after the Game 1 blow out loss by Dallas. Fans exiting the fake hype Browns bandwagon at Warp speed.
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
worst transaction of all time is correct. i agree with you guys. They have got to bench Watson, doing nothing is insanity.
@SLAYDHUNTR
@SLAYDHUNTR 3 ай бұрын
doing nothing is tanking which is what they will do for the next 2 years, yay browns...
@FreeSubtitlesAI
@FreeSubtitlesAI 3 ай бұрын
As a Baker superfan all I can say is enjoy the hell you made yourself! Just know as sad as you are watching your team collapse I am equally if not more happy
@curiousmoon5247
@curiousmoon5247 3 ай бұрын
Baker got hurt. Given no time to heal up and prove he could still ball. These guys and the management turned their back on him. After he pulled the Browns out of hell. This team has no loyalty. Look at Hunt, look at Flacco. Just some Watson loving cry babies blaming Stefanski.
@Berlography
@Berlography 3 ай бұрын
💯
@jdeljones
@jdeljones 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMovieEditor It was Baker's mouth when Andrew Berry, Kevin Stefanski, and Jimmy Haslem flew down to Deshaun's house in Atlanta to recruit him? Every other team (including his hometown Falcons) in the race met with him over zoom. The Browns were being the biggest pick me's. Baker's agent met with the front office during the 2022 combine. And they informed Baker's team that if something presented itself where they could upgrade the position that would pursue that. That does not mean fly down to Atlanta to court Deshaun while the rest of the league is recruiting him at arm's length. And then when Deshaun initially rejected them, they flew to Austin to try and smooth things over with Baker. All 3 of these guys need to go. They're jokes.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 3 ай бұрын
@@jdeljones so what’s your reaction when baker refused to meat with Kevin berry and jimmy? You don’t think it was a “joke” on bakers part to be in his feelings like a bitch? Stop blaming anyone but baker for what happen, baker don’t , he realizes he was part of the problem while here, ppl like u need to move on, baker did.
@sleepyjoeb.8726
@sleepyjoeb.8726 3 ай бұрын
Changing the QB will do nothing, the issue on this team run deeper. 1. The offensive line can’t block. 2. WR’s can’t get open and when they do get open they drop way too many passes. 3. No running game to speak of. 4. Defense can’t stop the run. 5. To many self inflicted wounds. 6. Dorsey’s offense is trash, there’s a reason he got fired from Buffalo.
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
The wide receivers are open quit often. Another deshaun burner account
@sleepyjoeb.8726
@sleepyjoeb.8726 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhite4161 apparently you don’t know how to comprehend. Is DeShaun part of the problem? Yes. Is he the only problem hell no. If you honestly think making a QB change is going to be the cure all that solves this team’s problems, you’re sorely mistaken.
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@sleepyjoeb.8726 yeah yeah get of KZbin and get some practice in deshaun
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@sleepyjoeb.8726 tell me more about how mistaken I am? 1 game Winston already broke 300 yards (more then deshaun his whole browns career) and the o line looked much better. Casual
@markmccloud7148
@markmccloud7148 3 ай бұрын
You can't pin this all on Watson until the line starts blocking and the receivers start getting open and catching the ball. Cooper is really struggling, and where is Moore? The biggest problem I see though is Bill Calahan isn't there anymore, and they made Stefanski fire HIS offensive coordinator.
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@markmccloud7148 🤣 🤡
@edalexander6155
@edalexander6155 3 ай бұрын
Baker is with the right coach and team know. DW4 will move on and do fine somewhere else.
@joshroberts6654
@joshroberts6654 3 ай бұрын
Is Deshaun playing well? Absolutely not, however, it's awfully weird that every time the offense gets going there's major penalties, particularly on game winning/changing drives (see giants, raiders, eagles games). Stints where he throws perfect, extending place etc. Normally, qbs this "bad" are riddled with turnovers. He has only 3 and two of those were drop passes.!!!just makes me think..Regardless, he's accounted for damn near 6k yards of offense in his last year in Houston. If you can't figure out how to get that out of a player I'm pointing at coaching before I blame the player.
@jamestaylor2979
@jamestaylor2979 3 ай бұрын
💯💯
@kingmichaeljacko2923
@kingmichaeljacko2923 3 ай бұрын
The offensive line is depleted....bring in Jaemis so yall can drag him! This is a team failure. The audacity to put all this on D Watson is nasty work!
@mrsmith1138
@mrsmith1138 3 ай бұрын
Amen. It's like everyone just decided to blame the sexual predator for all the problems.
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@kingmichaeljacko2923 ok brought Jamis in... seems like it worked. Casual
@fredmagic09
@fredmagic09 3 ай бұрын
If you really think Watson is the sole problem then you're just a Watson hater, period. Everyone is to blame here....poor coaching, pre-snap penalties, blown coverages, poor blocking, dropped passes, inaccurate throwing.... so many issues. If everyone was doing their part and Watson was still playing like ass, then you have a case. But the team as a whole is a complete joke.
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 3 ай бұрын
@fredmagic09 these guys blame Watson for everything
@ckpbeatz9466
@ckpbeatz9466 3 ай бұрын
If that was happening they would be 4 -2 . Last drive to win the games like 3 of the 4 loses key drops by players and fall starts . Nijoku drop that slant at the end as well.
@ckpbeatz9466
@ckpbeatz9466 3 ай бұрын
And Amari dropped a 3rd down on there first drive .
@scoobe8726
@scoobe8726 3 ай бұрын
The all 22 shows that there is a problem with Watson seeing the field and knowing where to go with the football. He looks like a rookie...and not a very good one. Are there other problems? Sure but don't be so naive to admit that it starts with the QB. If the receivers are running their route, getting open, and the QB doesn't see it game after game, effort begins to sag. That's what we are seeing with the Browns. A QB change is necessary if, for any other reason, to see if things get better.
@Eric-pg4zs
@Eric-pg4zs 3 ай бұрын
@@scoobe8726u don’t watch the all 22, u c people on twitter posting shit.
@Will-lg9ev
@Will-lg9ev 3 ай бұрын
Fire Kevin for the love of god. Baker was being seen as the worse. He gets Watson, top 5 in every category for QBs , every year at the time. Watson is now seen as the worse. Baker balling under new team. Wtf does that tell you? Setfon Diggs demands a trade in minny, lack of targets. Odell demands a trade, lack of target. Wtf does that tell you? Against Giants Watson and Cooper cooking, 7 straight completions. 3rd and 1 brings Winston in... lose yards. Did the same yesterday. It has nothing to do with not trusting Watson. HES BEEN DOING THIS! Yall just apologist. Last year, Seattle. With PJ Walker decides to throw instead of running it to run clock out. Pick and we lose. That cost us a bye in the playoffs How many trick plays have to be a disaster and lose games? How many clock management blunders? How many drop off after first 15 scripted plays? Why is everyone so blind to how trash Kevin is.. I don’t get it. HE IS TRASHHHHH
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
kevin won a playoff game with baker, and went to the playoffs with flacco just a few months ago, that tells me that watson is the only problem. He cant even throw for over 200 yards in a game, and in some games he doesnt even score a single td!
@Will-lg9ev
@Will-lg9ev 3 ай бұрын
Kevin didn’t win a playoff game, he was at home with Covid. AVP did. Flacco played four games against the worse passing defenses in the league. We made the playoffs last year because we had a HISTORICALLY great defense.
@bbmartin7055
@bbmartin7055 3 ай бұрын
NO HE DIDN'T ALEX VANPELT DID BRO ​@@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
@@Will-lg9ev flacco was 4-1 as a browns starter and averaged 323 yards per game and 3 tds per game, Watson is 8-9 as a brown and averages 180 yards per game and 1 td per game. We won because flacco sparked the offense, the defense was great early last year, but at the end of the year was not as strong. Kevin still led 2 different browns qbs to the playoffs, watson is just a bad qb, all the stats say so too.
@BurbankTvReactions
@BurbankTvReactions 3 ай бұрын
Okay so they glossed over the fact Watson lead the team down to the red zone 3rd and goal from the 5 false start Zinter. Get the 5 back 4th and goal from the 5 false start Wills
@tonybox77
@tonybox77 3 ай бұрын
If they change QBs they are going to see the real problem. Watson can't even take a three step drop with being swarm over by DL. So please stop scapegoating Watson.
@kingmichaeljacko2923
@kingmichaeljacko2923 3 ай бұрын
At this point I want the change just to see what these insufferable fans will cry about next because this team has more issues than qb play!
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 3 ай бұрын
@@kingmichaeljacko2923 it’s the whole team…NOONE cah stay healthy, it’s on players , coaches and KEVIN, he is a bad play caller…he is afraid to change play caller, because he saw avp win the only playoff game with him at home…… Everyone is giving Kevin a pass, but teams take ques from their HC Kevin is a bitch, with no fire and team is acting like a bitch with no fire
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@tonybox77 🤣 🤡
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@kingmichaeljacko2923 really? 🤣
@justinedse8435
@justinedse8435 3 ай бұрын
We must hold the coaching staff and front office accountable!
@angelicaguardia6178
@angelicaguardia6178 3 ай бұрын
My boy G Bush called it 🤣🤣🤣 AIM Acknowledge- Stefanski's screw ups Inform- that it wasn't his fault Move on from the subject and blame Watson 🤣
@generalposter4792
@generalposter4792 3 ай бұрын
always gave benefit of doubt as he seemed to always be hurt. However, after Flacco learned the offense in 2 weeks last year and excelled and knew the field. DW still shows no command of knowing anything. So waited till this year. It's been 3 years going on 4 and still looks like day 1. He's done. Flacco did it with a worse line and WRs. He made the line better because he got rid of the ball because he knew where people were.
@FaithOverFear79
@FaithOverFear79 3 ай бұрын
The bottom line is if Flacco or even Winston were starting, having halfway decent games, the team would not be 1-5. People making excuses for Watson don't understand how much of a detrimental effect poor QB play can have on the entire team. So technically no, it's not all his fault, but in reality, yes it is.
@thekiddsean33026
@thekiddsean33026 3 ай бұрын
@@FaithOverFear79 what makes you think they would do any better?
@sksimmons1336
@sksimmons1336 3 ай бұрын
@@thekiddsean33026because it was proven just last season
@beckydoesit9331
@beckydoesit9331 3 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the whole team that's letting Watson down. If and elite quarterback, which Watson proved he was in Houston, isn't inspired, look at the rest of the team. It's time to get some personal that can.
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 3 ай бұрын
​@@thekiddsean33026because these fans have a unhealthy obsession with Joe Flaccid and I'm a Ravens Fan but Browns Fans never gave Watson a fair shot
@chrisc3118
@chrisc3118 3 ай бұрын
Flacco looked great again yesterday for yet ANOTHER win for Indy. Baker too...... Thanks Andrew Berry!!!!
@chief2tongues
@chief2tongues 3 ай бұрын
It's a long season! We aren't out yet! I still despise Warren Moon and that damn run and shoot! Be nice for Watson!
@KevinRenode-t1f
@KevinRenode-t1f 3 ай бұрын
The O-line sucks but the question is if Deshaun is the blame for all these loses but if you ask me this team been doomed from the start and now Deshaun can be thrown under the bus for everything the coaching, the Defense, everything
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@KevinRenode-t1f 🤣
@litaljohn
@litaljohn 3 ай бұрын
Its all on watson. If he isn't on the team, the team has money to spend and get great players and mentors across the board. Apart from being the weakest link, he handicaps the team from strengthening their other weakness.
@kingmichaeljacko2923
@kingmichaeljacko2923 3 ай бұрын
& still be sorry! This organization has been trash with money & picks! Yall ain't tired of blaming Quarterbacks?
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@kingmichaeljacko2923 constantly on here defending a bum 🤣
@tbright3441
@tbright3441 3 ай бұрын
Mitchell is full of it! he knows its not just a Watson issue! when will someone tell the people the truth instead of a paid opinion !
@frontierlandfrank5314
@frontierlandfrank5314 3 ай бұрын
G Bush always finds a way to stick up for DW 😂😂
@agent1.618
@agent1.618 3 ай бұрын
how? what did he say?
@aaaDKaaa
@aaaDKaaa 3 ай бұрын
Bruh if you are watching these games and have been a Browns fans all your life and think Watson is the reason for this team struggles you are probably a manipulative gas lighting person🤣. Evaluate yourself. Again take Watson out I agree, do it please if only for this team to grow. Ste'fancy won't because you will get the same results, burn Watson, and expose that he is a terrible coach in the process. PS Bull and that dude in the army jacket are the worst can they be replaced please.
@monsutaman1
@monsutaman1 3 ай бұрын
BINGO!!!!!!!! Watson can do no right. Kev has 12 men on the field, and people claimed Watson walked off. If he takes DW4 out of the equation, all eyes will be on him.
@aaaDKaaa
@aaaDKaaa 3 ай бұрын
@@monsutaman1 people aren’t actively watching. They just go with the headlines and what that loser Dan Orlovsky says 🤣. We are gonna chase out more talent because we don’t want to hold Ste’fancy accountable. We will never be a good franchise with this culture.
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@aaaDKaaa 🤣 casual
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@monsutaman1 🤣 casual
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@aaaDKaaa looks like the headlines were right
@antoniocurlee1181
@antoniocurlee1181 3 ай бұрын
No it’s Kevin he’s the head coach. Watson played good for us to win yesterday. Dumb play calling and offensive penalties cause us to lose yesterday not Watson.
@hayseanward
@hayseanward 3 ай бұрын
Watson is cooked! Get him off the grill
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 3 ай бұрын
@antoniocurlee1181 Facts Wataon had a great game yesterday and I'm a Ravens Fan sad how 1 player gets 100 percent of the blame not not kevin not Dorsey or Jimmy Haslem for not giv Watson a Decent O Line
@hayseanward
@hayseanward 3 ай бұрын
@@malikwilson7387 Watson is burnt meat on the grill at this point. Dude is done
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
watson failed to lead the offense to one single td yesterday, he did not play well enough to win any game ever. Get real guys. he has thrown 5 tds in 6 games and is 1-5, he ranks dead last in QBR too.
@bbmartin7055
@bbmartin7055 3 ай бұрын
Stefanski called the plays and always fails to win when it counts most, Regardless who plays QB ​@nflnmichael
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 3 ай бұрын
G bush is as big of a Watson apologist as Leroy Bickerstaff is.
@MikkiKing-oq4ot
@MikkiKing-oq4ot 3 ай бұрын
If you don't trust the QB. Pull him out the game.
@monsutaman1
@monsutaman1 3 ай бұрын
Then he lost his scapegoat........ This is not a Haslam decision imo........
@hawaiiantimes7702
@hawaiiantimes7702 3 ай бұрын
You guys need a better O-line. I’m a bears fan, so I know what a horrible offensive line looks like. Anything other than that is clickbait
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@hawaiiantimes7702 yeah it totally wasn't watson
@hawaiiantimes7702
@hawaiiantimes7702 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhittemore493 Oh no, Watson is a bust for sure but that O-Line is horrible. QB’s leave Cleveland and flourish elsewhere. We do it over here in Chicago. QB’s, WR’s and defense is what everyone talks about. Games are won and lost in the trenches.
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@hawaiiantimes7702 how many times did Winston get sacked today? It was deshaun he hold the ball to long. Flacco also floreshed with basically the same team last year
@hawaiiantimes7702
@hawaiiantimes7702 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhittemore493 Okay, I still think that O-line is suspect. Great game today tho
@mikediao15
@mikediao15 3 ай бұрын
We all know what James Winston is at this stage. He’s going to feel pressure then threw 3 interceptions in a row. I would suggest stefenski giving up the play calling or fire the OC. If you bench Deshaun and Jamies sucks then what? Where do you go from there?? Fire the coach now. Get Bill billecheck and his coaching staff.
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
the coach has proven he can win with baker and flacco, it appears the obvious problem is watson who ranks dead last in most individual passing stats. in 2 starts flacco has thrown 7 tds, in 6 starts Watson has thrown 5 tds. Baker leads the nfl with 17 tds! do you see that our qb is not nearly good enough to be a starter.
@mikediao15
@mikediao15 3 ай бұрын
@@nflnmichael proven what exactly?? Flacco was throwing bunch of Interceptions against bad teams. That’s wasn’t sustainable. Flacco is good for few games
@Ress330
@Ress330 3 ай бұрын
Bill doesn’t want to work for Haslem…wake up
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 3 ай бұрын
Flacco led watson in every single efficiency stat last year. He had a better td to turnover ratio than watson last year and this year. Watson is the worst qb in the nfl buddy. Sorry to break it to ya
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
@@mikediao15 the one thing we know for sure is that watson sucks, so why not make a change and see.
@lleshoure
@lleshoure 3 ай бұрын
I’ll just wait till Saturday to hear something real on The Barber Shop
@Laxalis77
@Laxalis77 3 ай бұрын
My point is that Cedric Tillman was wide open at the TD zone last minute then DW can’t see or not want to pass ball to Tillman, it could be TD for tied up with OT, but DW didn’t, hopefully he re-watch it and why they lose the game and he deserves to bench or cuts
@alexcika9906
@alexcika9906 3 ай бұрын
Heres the deal People , Fire AB and Depodesta , Stefanski although very wishy washy as of late gets a pass , the Watson experiment is DONE , not sure how i feel about Dorsey honesty and losing Callahan appears to be huge , cut that waste of space Wills and a few other players , lets draft a stud QB out of college and obviously get some lineman in the draft or free agency , cut your losses with Watson
@MorganAppleby
@MorganAppleby 3 ай бұрын
Mitchell Schwartz isn’t just some guy who played here for 2 seasons - he was drafted here and played 4 years
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 3 ай бұрын
People love to blame EVERYTHING on the QB the QB can’t play Defense he can’t block himself and he can’t make the WRs catch the ball that’s not excuse that’s the TRUTH!! This whole team needs to be rebuilt
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@flyguy7825 no it was watson. Clown
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhittemore493 yo momma!!
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@flyguy7825 wow real 3rd grade material you got 🙄
@DCUPtoejuice
@DCUPtoejuice 3 ай бұрын
I say give Watson 100% of the blame so that when Nick chubbs back on the field and Watson's in his groove, he can also take 100% of the credit
@rahrah4819
@rahrah4819 3 ай бұрын
Nope the offensive line screwed up the last drive with false starts
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
If we had a good qb we wouldn't need to wait until the last drive to win. It would have been put away sooner. Funny how we always need to wait until the end of the game to win because deshun is such a bum in the first half
@rahrah4819
@rahrah4819 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhite4161 qb doesn’t matter when every time you get a big play it’s called and I mean every single time it’s the OLine false start not lined up right or holding smh
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@rahrah4819 🤣 why the o line look so much better without deshaun? Tell me why Winston's 300+ yards didn't matter. Casual
@rahrah4819
@rahrah4819 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhite4161 because of line up changes and position moves and the qb got the ball out a lot quicker this game
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@rahrah4819 "qb got the ball out quicker" *ding ding ding*
@MrJulio1738
@MrJulio1738 3 ай бұрын
Our entire offense shits their fucking pants inside the opposite 20, we should trademark the offensive facemask btw
@HOOPSnCATS
@HOOPSnCATS 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ggates5371
@ggates5371 3 ай бұрын
The nfl script writers want the Browns out of Cleveland. They want the fanbase to cheer for Pittsburgh instead. It’s the reason Justin Fields went to Pittsburgh. They want the Browns fanbase to become Steelers fans.
@davidmacwilliamson5570
@davidmacwilliamson5570 3 ай бұрын
Watson has to be banged up, like Rush said if you are injured, sit out and get better
@123rygonn
@123rygonn 3 ай бұрын
Let’s party like it’s 1999. 😂
@ouroborosnagyok9306
@ouroborosnagyok9306 3 ай бұрын
G Bush youre too much of a Watson apologist you have to realize that with really bad QB play, it deflates the whole team, because we ALL know how IMPORTANT that position is…. it’s not like any other position.
@kingmichaeljacko2923
@kingmichaeljacko2923 3 ай бұрын
You get bad QB play with a bad line...
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@kingmichaeljacko2923 you get a bad line when you hold the ball to long. And are never where you are supposed to be. The o line don't have eyes in the back of there head
@trophyhilll
@trophyhilll 3 ай бұрын
The answer to the title is no! That credit belongs to Haslam, Berry and Depodesta for getting rid of Baker and bringing in the sex offender!
@Adrian-tv3ku
@Adrian-tv3ku 3 ай бұрын
You know what they say about karma
@HomeDefender30
@HomeDefender30 3 ай бұрын
Preach!
@packpistolarms
@packpistolarms 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Even if he didn’t do what he was accused of, shouldn’t have been messing with all those whores in the 1st place. Look at baker, married man.
@trophyhilll
@trophyhilll 3 ай бұрын
@@HomeDefender30 yeah I know I’m preaching to the choir lol
@lleshoure
@lleshoure 3 ай бұрын
Jay’s takes stink
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you think "stats dont matter 4-1 only wins matter" 🥴. Stats absolutely matter you can only win with a bottom 5 qb for so long. Now the browns are 1-5 and the same people want to switch up 😂
@curiousmoon5247
@curiousmoon5247 3 ай бұрын
This team is riding with Watson! Period. Love the pain. Down the line they may beat the Dolphins. End the season 2-14
@matthewgabbard6415
@matthewgabbard6415 3 ай бұрын
I just don’t know why the team isn’t listening to this panel of geniuses. Obviously they are brilliant football minds, look at what they do for a living. Baker is killing you guys, and every one of you were down on him that last year. He was hurt and you wouldn’t hear anything other than he was a bust despite having knowledge to the contrary. The Browns organization were scared to death Pittsburgh were gonna get Watson so they broke the bank for this turd.
@nerothelost9605
@nerothelost9605 3 ай бұрын
Baker sucked when he was here. He needed a change of scenery.
@davidmacwilliamson5570
@davidmacwilliamson5570 3 ай бұрын
If the Browns continue this trend, 1-16 record
@jimbridges3499
@jimbridges3499 3 ай бұрын
Mitchell Schwartz never like the Browns when he played with them. They Traded him. He is Still Bitter. I have learned in Life. Never listen to a Bitter Guy or Gal. PERIOD! Joel Bitonio is his Buddy. He sounds like a Fool. Shut Up Already. LOL! Miles Garrett plays on the Defense. They were #1 in the league last year. There defense STINKS this year. Believe me. Miles is looking at his guy's on defense First and Foremost. This is LAUGHABLE! LOL! G-Bush is right on point. Joel has not played Good Either. Make a move after Nick Chubb gets back and they LOSE! That tells you EVERYTHING!
@thekiddsean33026
@thekiddsean33026 3 ай бұрын
facts
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
Watson ranks 32nd in qbr this year, 29th in passer rating, 29th in completion percentage, and has thrown 5 td and had 6 turnovers in 6 games and is 1-5. Deshaun is statistically the worst qb in the nfl. He needs to be benched.
@kovachfg
@kovachfg 3 ай бұрын
Bringing in Dorsey was a mistake, he was fired at Buffalo.
@mrfabulous17
@mrfabulous17 3 ай бұрын
Stefanski refuses to changed the offense for Watson… nobody wants to talk about it
@BurbankTvReactions
@BurbankTvReactions 3 ай бұрын
OB worst in the league, WRs worst in the league, O-line worst in the league, RBs worst in the league, Coaching worst in the league, Front office worst in the league changing the QB won’t help dummies. Fire Stefanski and Brown build a dome in Brookpark and change the name back to the Bulldogs.🤦🏾‍♂️
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@BurbankTvReactions it worked dummy
@questfor900
@questfor900 3 ай бұрын
The most egregious thing is Bull still apologetic of Stefanski 😅😂 Factory of Sadness #Stockholm syndrome
@joebodi1689
@joebodi1689 3 ай бұрын
Jay, I agree haslam will not back down...Stephanie does not look happy and feels just going through role. Just setting up for failure.
@gse6458
@gse6458 3 ай бұрын
Someone tell me please, exactly what Dorsey does? I know, He’s OC but, what is his contribution week in and week out? Anybody?
@controversialcardchannel
@controversialcardchannel 3 ай бұрын
The spread offense is his design. The plays Stefanski calls are both his system and Dorsey's system. When you see the QB under center, with less than 2 WR's, that's Stefanski 's RPO system. When you see the QB 5 yards back with 3 or more WR's, that's Dorsey's spread system. He designs the plays, Kevin calls them. The players execute them.
@jamestaylor2979
@jamestaylor2979 3 ай бұрын
@@controversialcardchannelkevin shouldn’t be calling it 🤷🏾‍♂️
@stephenharris9802
@stephenharris9802 3 ай бұрын
Roger Staubach, Drew Brees, Terry Bradshaw, Peyton Manning, Jim Plunkett, Steve Young, and the list goes on and on of quarterbacks who played their best football after 25. Why do these guys pretend to have a crystal ball and know how Baker would play with seven draft picks?
@theeggreat4
@theeggreat4 3 ай бұрын
Need to run the I Formation the rest of the year
@brownieelf6171
@brownieelf6171 3 ай бұрын
It’s the same show every week now. Same topics, same points being made.
@SecondWindStories
@SecondWindStories 3 ай бұрын
Baker Mayfield is BALLIN 😂
@ftt7429
@ftt7429 3 ай бұрын
The Browns went out of their way to give up the future of their team to pay off Deshaun Watsons legal bills.
@jaybavis5896
@jaybavis5896 3 ай бұрын
You know there saying remove Watson.. yet they do a horrible job for who has hired them . They know nothing but gossip. And heresay. Yet they continually blame Watson because they dont like him . Its very obvious watson had no turnovers, no interpretation. And finally the coach calls play to get them down the field in red zone. Did he caused no Touchdown absolutely not. The other players did there willing to overlook the penalties that stop them from scoring. If these socall men actually look and listen to watson interview after the game.. he told you who's fault this is. He doing what there telling him... im sick of these out of touch socall men on a sport they know nothing about. Jason knows nothing about football jay just enjoys talking.
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
watson ranks dead last in QBR this year and over the last 3 years. He is a awful QB. Awful.
@jaybavis5896
@jaybavis5896 3 ай бұрын
@@nflnmichael so what can you go play who cares at this point. I'm not paying him and neither or you.
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
@@jaybavis5896 wouldnt you rather play a qb who gives the browns a better chance to win, or do you enjoy watching watson embarrass himself every week?
@Elephant2024-wi2li
@Elephant2024-wi2li 3 ай бұрын
Plenty of blame to go around, but because of the contract DW4 is going to get more.
@SWLion26
@SWLion26 3 ай бұрын
Has anyone asked Kevin Stefanski this question: 1. Is the owner or anyone else in the front office prohibiting you from benching Watson?
@123rygonn
@123rygonn 3 ай бұрын
Mary Kay asked that in todays press conference with Kevin
@GOPACKERSJT
@GOPACKERSJT 3 ай бұрын
Please bring Mary kay in. I want to hear her excuses. I remember her saying that this was a Super Bowl roster during camp.
@nflnmichael
@nflnmichael 3 ай бұрын
oh i cant wait to hear mark kay, funniest part of my week.
@bigboom2493
@bigboom2493 3 ай бұрын
Yeah...this so called cleveland sports show is horrible...they just say anything.....and jay hates and name calls everyone who has more money then him....like he jealous....bull is full of bull....
@tracymitchell7471
@tracymitchell7471 3 ай бұрын
Lol...Ya'll Just blaming DW because it's easy! They have not played 1 good game all year!
@BeanieDoggerson
@BeanieDoggerson 3 ай бұрын
You have a racial agenda... your opinion is meaningless.
@roddywhite4161
@roddywhite4161 3 ай бұрын
@@tracymitchell7471 🤣 guess you lack common sense
@jcage9095
@jcage9095 3 ай бұрын
I damn sure ain't firing that coach. Only way i would maybe possibly do that is for Ben Johnson. KS is a good coach. I don't want Jamis in. That doesnt solve anything.
@fg6971
@fg6971 3 ай бұрын
Baker still with the Browns in 2024 talk needs to include healthy, more experienced, more mature, and those lost draft picks being on the team. What is the over/ under on number of fans and media that liked what it took to acquire Watson, not just Watson replacing Baker, but what it took? My guess that over/ under would be about 1, with that 1 being Watson. Johnny Manziel arrived in Cleveland with bust written on his forehead, the Watson deal was stamped with 'disaster' before the ink from Watson's signature dried.
@timothyhull5794
@timothyhull5794 3 ай бұрын
Everybody that is making decisions need to be replaced and bench Watson but don’t release him unless he lets us out of the contract. Let him rot under contract and end his career!! We talk about this stuff but never the fans and the future of the Browns
@James-e3m4x
@James-e3m4x 3 ай бұрын
I DON’T KNOW WHY WE DONT PLAY WINSTON .If he plays better than Watson then we have a better QB play if he doesn’t we aren’t any worse off.If Watson is a real starting QB he should have confidence to believe that he’s better than Winston and would want to see him play so it would prove it’s more of a team thing.
@troymanthe5269
@troymanthe5269 3 ай бұрын
Definition of insanity is jay saying the definition of insanity over and over… I don’t think jay could even play pickleball, and Adam the bull is about 2 mcchickens away from triple bypass,doubt he could even walk to a bullpen!
@troymanthe5269
@troymanthe5269 3 ай бұрын
Then u got dj calculus which was def playing on the football field in high school but it was at halftime with a marching band outfit and a tuba ….
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@troymanthe5269 but they know a bad qb when they see one
@rpippen3455
@rpippen3455 3 ай бұрын
Scapegoating #4... Team issues. Can't see Tom Brady or Peyton Manning winning a lot of games, especially a Super Bowl, running for their life behind this O-Line, undisciplined penalties, no running game, receivers with NO separation, drops and no "Yards After Catch (YAC)", and our "Erratic" Defense. Also, some very obvious Coaching issues. Yet, Many Media and Fans continue to demonstrate no legitimate objectivity of the situation.
@rickzwolinski
@rickzwolinski 3 ай бұрын
Hey Bull you're right, Stefanski is following orders.
@ThR1La32
@ThR1La32 3 ай бұрын
I will quit being a Browns fan if you let go of Kevin Stefanski. That’s egregious.
@hankfraley1264
@hankfraley1264 3 ай бұрын
It’s all depodesta. I think everyone is hootin and hollering over stefanski and berry but the real problem is lurking in the shadows. It’s Paul depodesta.
@DavidAbshear
@DavidAbshear 3 ай бұрын
If ownership and DePo have hand cuffed Stefanski this year and they fire him, who would want to come in and coach?
@bobwhite2
@bobwhite2 3 ай бұрын
He is one player who is just playing for people who paid him. Of course it’s not his fault. It’s the Browns organization. Haven’t been able to get out of their own way for 30 years.
@alekwhite5560
@alekwhite5560 3 ай бұрын
Lol gbush is a Watson homer
@AbrahamIsUrFather
@AbrahamIsUrFather 3 ай бұрын
That Cavs coaching comparison to running it back is a terrible comparison. The core four on the Cavs consists of 4 good nba players. Watson is not a good nfl player. We’ve seen the core four work at times and it was evident coaching was the Cavs problem. Watson is the clear problem for the Browns more so than Stefanski and Berry, although I’d move on from all three
@XPGaming216
@XPGaming216 3 ай бұрын
When given a chance Watson literally converted all the 3rd downs, so we even put the stupid play call with Winston on Watson 🤣 He can be trash but it’s ok to hold other accountable
@92Firelord
@92Firelord 3 ай бұрын
DREW ALLAR
@mikerotonda6264
@mikerotonda6264 3 ай бұрын
I still can't believe the Brown's never won a Super Bowl... Never even played in one!!! That's amazing!! That's actually hard to do
@hayseanward
@hayseanward 3 ай бұрын
Lion, Jags and Houston too
@URRidikalus
@URRidikalus 3 ай бұрын
Not when you have the dumbest owner in sports
@davidmacwilliamson5570
@davidmacwilliamson5570 3 ай бұрын
Should of kept Flacco for maybe 2 years
@curiousmoon5247
@curiousmoon5247 3 ай бұрын
G still got that deep love for Watson. Blames Stefanski for Watson's bad play.
@GBear1223
@GBear1223 3 ай бұрын
The media ran baker outta town, now trying to the same with Watson.
@roddywhittemore493
@roddywhittemore493 3 ай бұрын
@@GBear1223 good he's a clown
@GBear1223
@GBear1223 3 ай бұрын
@@roddywhittemore493 credit to ken dorsey offense💯 everybody ate today
@GRASSNBASS
@GRASSNBASS 3 ай бұрын
Listen up Browns fans! Kevin Stefanski is a talent killer! Going all the way back to Diggs and Cousins in Minnesota. And now Kevin can’t get the most out of Baker, Flacco and now Watson!
@djb2224
@djb2224 3 ай бұрын
Could they restructure Watson contract to be all signing bonus and just pay him 170 million to go away?
@IAmEmber
@IAmEmber 3 ай бұрын
It’s not all Watson’s fault but he’s the QB. No one has been playing well. I’m for benching Watson but I don’t know how much of a difference it will make. S/N: that guy needs to lose the sunglasses.
@jaylin6669
@jaylin6669 3 ай бұрын
So we gon skip over the Hims add?
@Sportsbob1
@Sportsbob1 3 ай бұрын
The front office is to blame. Berry and Depodesta, are accountable for the hell they have caused for the city and fans. They underestimated Mayfield and overestimated Watson, and miss evaluated 0:35 the host of other players they’ve trotted through here to help Watson. They don’t know how to build a team with culture and character that can be winners. They make bad decisions and negotiated the worst deal in NFL History. THEY SHOULD BE FIRED! Stefanski should be fired too. His shtick is old and he is a fool for continuing to stand by Watson.
@Sportsbob1
@Sportsbob1 3 ай бұрын
We know we have to do a complete rebuild now and we can’t let this management team be in charge of that. They have lost all trust and credibility given their woeful performance that caused this mess. They have to be FIRED and a new group has to be brought in to orchestrate the makeover. No one could be worse than them.
@DrWilliams9
@DrWilliams9 3 ай бұрын
They’re clearly tanking
@joebodi1689
@joebodi1689 3 ай бұрын
Why doesn't everyone say or being political correct and saying this team gave up on their quarterback? Stop saying for what we all know, excuses!
@Fresh2003
@Fresh2003 3 ай бұрын
yeah, if he plays as well versus the Bengals and the ravens keep that same energy because clearly does not on him. Go back and watch all 22 watch the stats he pay a lot better in the second half
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