Ultra-Fast Multi Item Sorter v1.2 With Upgrade Tutorial! (1.19 Java Edition)

[@lummiethief]

It has come to my attention that new slice design is directional and doesn't work when facing west, but luckily its super easy to fix: just remove the waterlogged trap doors from the slices. Here's a diagram showing which trap doors to remove imgur.com/a/WWmlHRU This slice is tested to work in every direction. I've also updated the world download to incorporate the new slices. Sorry about that!

[@znxster]

Thanks dude!

[@w1nso351]

hello, I built according to your guides and nothing works for me, then I downloaded your map under this video, and it doesn’t work either, the funnel takes the filter, the piston works but the filter is not put back, and after the piston took the rail, the funnel slides further and goes all the way to the trash, what could be the problem?

[@lummiethief]

@@w1nso351 if the world download doesn't work, my only thought could be that you have some client side mod that affects minecart mechanics

[@ryanrodgers3099]

Thanks for the update on this, it was driving me crazy in my test world! I'm still having issues with the very last slice on my west facing "bank" of slices. It seems that the sorting minecart drops off a hopper minecart instead of the filter item when it's supposed to return the filter item, resulting in that filter breaking. Any thoughts on where to start troubleshooting?

[@lummiethief]

@@ryanrodgers3099 Are you sure you have the amethyst cluster at the end of the rail? If you do, try replacing the wool block directly under the soul sand with another hopper.

[@RianaFelblade]

First Tango, now Scar. Glad you're getting recognized for your amazing work! ♥

[@lummiethief]

Don't forget about Hypno!

[@unclebob7902]

Yeah, big congrats for the deserved success of such an incredible storage system!

[@mcspacecash6807]

I thought I first heard about this system on Scar's video but I realized I entirely glossed over Tango's use of it! Awesome work, Lummie. I love how the Hermits give credit where it's due. This system is wild! Hopefully Scar figures his issue out (assuming it's unloaded chunks) and gets his MASSIVE system working.

[@martinramirez849]

Personally the original design has been working great for me on my SMP, but I had to watch this full video just to see how you managed to tackle the issues. The constant innovation and dedication you have to improvement is truly amazing! Hope you’re not too stressed after this redesign, and look forward to your next great builds in the future! :)

[@rasmustoftmller923]

I totally agree! Your dedication to improvement is awesome! Something i would love to see, is your take on a build in shulker unloader! :D

[@artemis_furrson]

Really love how one minor change in 1.19 can make such a huge difference in terms of hopper minecart unloaders and make them the most practical way of transporting items

[@dustyink.c]

I didn't read the patch notes, what did they change ?

[@artemis_furrson]

@@dustyink.c Hopper minecarts used to drop separately as a hopper and a minecart when destroyed. In 1.19, when you destroy a hopper minecart or other minecart types, it drops as itself. This allows you to instantly unload a hopper minecart by destroying it whereas before you had to have the hopper minecart be slowly drained by hoppers. Additionally, the broken hopper minecart can be redispensed.

[@unclebob7902]

That is some serious next level Minecraft MIS! I'm impressed! I downloaded the WDL and had a look and it is soooo fast!! Hard to believe. I used Litematica to copy and rotate paste a second one so now with 2 independent systems in a box shape increasing the the capacity to 40 slices, I'm looking forward to testing it. Keep up the outstanding work, can't wait to see what you come up with in the future. A huge thanks for the masive amount of hours you have put into this. Cheers.

[@rasmustoftmller923]

Couldn't say it better my self! Thank you!

[@VforVigor]

For people like me who accidentially made this in a biome like lush caves that spawns fish that messes with minecarts: add slabs to the top of the three-tall water part to prevent the spawns. (I also spent an embarrassingly long time debugging what turned out to be a lack of minecarts, so make sure to have enough of those... 😅)

[@kxaami]

So if anyone's wondering, here's the item list :] *This is only the first design part of the item sorter +Materials for the end slice +----------------------+-------+ Item Total +----------------------+-------+ Hopper 187 Chest 151 Powered Rail 128 White Stained Glass 122 White Wool 71 Quartz Stairs 51 Redstone Dust 42 Light Blue Wool 36 Oak Trapdoor 31 Barrel 20 Water Bucket 20 Purple Wool 18 Oak Log 17 Blue Wool 16 Redstone Repeater 16 Oak Planks 15 Redstone Comparator 15 Smooth Stone Slab 15 Lever 14 Rail 14 Soul Sand 12 Block of Redstone 11 Cauldron 11 Sticky Piston 11 Yellow Wool 11 Orange Wool 10 Quartz Slab 10 Target 10 Redstone Torch 8 Composter 7 Red Wool 7 Detector Rail 4 Dispenser 2 Dropper 2 Oak Fence Gate 2 Observer 2 Redstone Lamp 2 Activator Rail 1 Amethyst Cluster 1 Mud 1 Note Block 1 Oak Stairs 1 Stone Pressure Plate 1 *Item List for one slice of the first design +----------------------+-------+ Item Total +----------------------+-------+ Powered Rail 11 Hopper 7 Chest 5 Light Blue Wool 4 Smooth Quartz Stairs 4 White Wool 4 Oak Trapdoor 3 Redstone Dust 2 Water Bucket 2 White Stained Glass 2 Barrel 1 Barrier 1 Block of Redstone 1 Cauldron 1 Detector Rail 1 Lever 1 Quartz Slab 1 Quartz Stairs 1 Redstone Comparator 1 Smooth Stone Slab 1 Soul Sand 1 Sticky Piston 1 Target 1 *End Slice Items +---------------------+-------+ Item Total +---------------------+-------+ Hopper 18 Chest 12 White Stained Glass 12 Powered Rail 9 Quartz Stairs 5 White Wool 4 Oak Trapdoor 3 Barrel 2 Oak Fence Gate 2 Water Bucket 2 Amethyst Cluster 1 Block of Redstone 1 Cauldron 1 Lever 1 Quartz Slab 1 Rail 1 Soul Sand 1 *Redstone Part +----------------------+-------+ Item Total +----------------------+-------+ White Stained Glass 91 White Wool 25 Redstone Dust 24 Hopper 18 Powered Rail 18 Purple Wool 18 Blue Wool 16 Redstone Repeater 16 Oak Planks 15 Chest 13 Orange Wool 12 Oak Log 11 Yellow Wool 11 Redstone Torch 8 Red Wool 7 Smooth Stone Slab 6 Redstone Comparator 5 Lever 4 Rail 4 Composter 2 Dispenser 2 Dropper 2 Observer 2 Redstone Lamp 2 Soul Sand 2 Sticky Piston 2 Activator Rail 1 Block of Redstone 1 Cauldron 1 Mud 1 Note Block 1 Oak Stairs 1 Oak Trapdoor 1 Quartz Stairs 1 Stone Pressure Plate 1 Target 1

[@haimlalisho9726]

Thanks mate

[@robinlimbach1585]

@@haimlalisho9726 Thanks so much!

[@rowanhensley3615]

Materials list: Input section: Glass - 91 Solid blocks - 81 RS dust - 21 Pwd Rail - 19 Hopper - 16 Repeater - 15 Chest - 13 RS torch - 8 Slab - 6 Lever - 5 Comparator - 5 Rail - 4 Composter - 2 Dropper - 2 Observer - 2 RS lamp - 2 Soul sand - 2 Sticky piston - 2 Activator Rail - 1 RS block - 1 Cauldron - 1 Dispenser - 1 Mud - 1 Note Block - 1 Button - 1 Pressure plate - 1 Target - 1 Per 2 slices: Hopper - 36 Chest - 28 Pwd Rail - 22 Solid blocks - 17 Stairs - 10 Barrel - 4 RS dust - 4 Glass - 4 Slab - 4 RS block - 2 Cauldron - 2 Lava bucket - 2 Lever - 2 Trapdoor - 2 Rail - 2 Comparator - 2 Soulsand - 2 Sicky Piston - 2 Target - 2 Composter - 1 Detector rail - 1

[@MrMohl1]

what is this list? outdated? from the input section missing: 1 lava, 2 trapdoor, 1 dispenser, 1 stairs, 1 comparator, 1 repeater, 3 RS, maybe some building blocks. Leftover: 3 slabs (+ some glass and chests) (havent tested it, maybe i messed up myself, but thats quite a lot that i was missing)

[@skeyenexus]

NO WAY! Im so glad I was able to be there so soon for the first one. This is so sick and I really hope you continue to use your imagination to create amazing things

[@fwiffo]

Small correction at 26:40 with the 16-stackable input switch in the left position. The redstone below the switch needs to be a dot, not a plus.

[@lummiethief]

Oh wow can't believe I didn't catch that, thank you so much!

[@Myrrax-ge1hq]

Full sorter is now complete. All three blocks are working, Miscellaneous end slice working. I’ve loaded a couple slices that I’ve had to remove swords and balance(working). 16/64 stack curcuit working, all other circuits working as well. Added trapdoors to all open ends of the rail line , so that I can check sources and pistons. Such a great design. Thanks again!

[@To0Aw3s0m3]

HOLY COW!!! After debugging forever I FINALLY fixed the waterlogging issue. I too was having an issue with the water source disappearing when the piston retracted. pull all the pistons back, water log everything in the channel (stairs, rails, and the open soul sand). Now grab one more bucket, go into the channel through the fence gate, look up at the hopper and shift (or control if you rebound sneak to be control like a sane person)-click the bucket at the hopper. You will see all the water change to source blocks. You're welcome.

[@inamecomeunico8935]

I just watched the trilogy of videos about this sorter, I do think it's incredible and you explained it very well. I'll try, in the near future, to build it in the server a play, even though I believe it won't work because there are too many plugins that modify too much about redstone and carts, but it seems worth to try it! I would like to thank you for your perseverance in trying to fix it for as much people as possible even beyond laggy machines and various servers, it's not something that I see a lot on KZbin.

[@miguelcastanosanchezcarras558]

Good thing I still haven't built your last version. Now I think I'm gonna wait a little bit more just in case you come up with an even better design. Keep up the good work!:)

[@cazu415]

Thanks a lot for designing this system, it really revolutionizes the multi-item sorter capabilities. I added a system so that it automatically detects 16 Stackables and take out one item so I don't have to bother separating them and I don't slow down the system.

[@Zappla420]

Hello Felix, I'm very curious on how you achieved this detection system. Would you mind sharing some screenshots on the working system, or a world download or something like that? I would love to look into this

[@lummiethief]

Awesome addition! I left it out in order for the system to be as simple and small as possible, but nice work figuring out how to fit it in.

[@markarmstrong6807]

@Felix Von Samson , Most definitely interested in your design. A couple of us less talented people are trying to put together a mashup of tech from the Storage Tech discord and your thoughts are echoing us. Thanks.

[@Zappla420]

@@cazu415 That makes a lot of sense, thanks! I would like to see what you come up with when you have a clean version, to draw inspiration from. Many of the features ring close to the modifications I've been working on myself. Thanks!

[@cazu415]

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[@СвятославЗаманский]

I am so glad that you exist in this world. I am extremely grateful to you for creating such a mechanism.Keep up the good work, I will look forward to new improvements.

[@defmonk0]

Next step this needs is a shulker unloader that unloads in a way that works with the hopper cart system. Determine if an item is a shulker, and place it similarly to how the input chest is currently so it can be emptied quickly and broken. It would also be awesome to automatically handle the 16-stackables as well. This is quickly becoming one of the coolest multi-item sorters I've seen.

[@lummiethief]

Oh boy will you like v2

[@defmonk0]

@@lummiethief Oh man, I'm excited. I've been playing around with trying to slap something like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4PHf56Krt17iZI on to the front of it, but getting the timing right has been a pain without it being massive in size. I assume V2 will make its way onto this channel soon^tm?

[@lummiethief]

@@defmonk0 v2 won't have shulker box displays, it will still just sort items into chests, but you will be able to chuck a shulker box into the input and have it be emptied (although everything is subject to change obviously). No time frame on when it will be done, but progress is good. Ill post the video as soon as it's done.

[@liosscip]

@@lummiethief Oh wow. Just found you and your amazing sorting system, pondered about integrating a shulker unloader into it, now found this comment. Very exited for that (:

[@thesuitablecommand]

It hurts to see water so close to such a powerful redstone system... but that fearlessness is part of why this is so brilliant!

[@lummiethief]

I also had the 0 iq idea of putting that demo slice above the real sorting system, so more than once while building the demo slice I dumped water all over the entire sorting system -_-

[@thesuitablecommand]

@@lummiethief 😭😭😭

[@posterho]

I had one row (with 12 slices) of the old version working. But every time I didn't get one of the slices correct, it was a nightmare to fix. Looks like you have addressed this in this video. Can't wait to try it. Thank you for the update. Really like how this sorter runs!

[@alwayslearningtech]

I thought my issues were something to do with items that fell into hoppers while building and rebuilding it, especially adjusting the slices to be a column instead of groups of 5, but it turned out that some slices are just having items go back into the hopper cart rail while others worked perfectly. I think I'm going to rebuild the whole thing in another location and just build the new slices as well as the new input system. It's a lot of work, but no where near the amount of work you've put into making this all and helping everyone throughout the journey. You're the real MVP. I'm also learning so much while building it all and fixing the issues which has been great. I'm also curious if the people having the issues were running on the Apple M1 or M2 devices because while they are fast, they also process things differently and can't compute some edge cases at all.

[@KrisTC]

I finally got this working in my world. But I made a few mistakes and though I would share what I did wrong and some debugging tips in the hope that I can save others a bit of time. Basically I was minecarts in my filter chestand items being flushed out. The issue was cause by me not having enough water sources arround the rails under the filter chests. I had waterlogged the rails but didn't have water sources in the empty blocks next to the rails. So when the pistons pulled the rails back the water was lost affecting the speed the carts go through. The easiest way to debug this to see if you are having the issue, is swim into the are by the rails and take an item out of the filter chest to remove so that the piston retracts then put it back, if the rail is no longer waterlogged then you have made the same mistake as me. Put water in the block behind by clicking on the stairs.

[@alwayslearningtech]

I was also having this issue, I have now placed water sources on the back of the stairs which appears to have fixed the water source issue on the rails however I am still having the hopper minecart being pulled out as a filter, replacing the filter I had there before. Can you think of anything else you changed?

[@myshack1]

thanks 👍

[@mitchellschleidt7467]

@@alwayslearningtech I hope you figured this out by now, but for anyone else who may read this. it was the hoppers under every other cauldron facing the wrong way which feeds into the hopper minecart hopper line

[@edwincook266]

Congrats on the system, and making the hermits do even more redstone. Honestly thought that this would be a possibility but couldn't figure out how exactly how to do this, so thanks so much

[@Brahmzy]

This will prob be the only item sorter i use from now on, Thanks so much

[@ethanroberts2986]

Hell yeah! Glad to see you got it redesigned...new slice design looks even better than the last!

[@asana8178]

hands down one of the best MIS designs I've seen in awhile, nice work

[@Rebecca_2012]

This is a great design and more compact than the one I intend to build. You and your community have clearly worked hard on this, well done all! However the MIS I intend to build has a shulker unloader (Yes, I know Tango added one to your design on Hermitcraft ;) ) but more importantly, doesn't need a switch mode for 16 stackables. So for now, I'm going to subscribe and wait in hope that you and/or your growing community (well deserved might I add) can perfect this design further. I too, will try to perfect it from the WDL and will get in touch should I succeed :)

[@lummiethief]

Thanks, glad you like the system! I'm currently working on v2 which will fix the 16 stackable problem and add a shulker unloader, so subscribing was a good idea :)

[@pske8507]

@@lummiethief Any idea when the v2 is ready? I can't wait to build it already on my realms server!

[@lummiethief]

@@pske8507 my college classes just started back up again so I've had a lot less time to work on the sorter than I would like. I haven't given up on it, but I don't want to promise that it will come out any time soon.

[@phoenig9302]

Small channel - big brain Awesome

[@77Brainfreeze]

Wow nice, this has to be one of the most compact and easy to build multi item sorters. Very easy to get resources even early game.

[@wolvyreen3628]

Just a note, your new version is obviously much better but I found some simple workarounds that have been working for me. I have been running many tests of my own of the version 1.1 schematic and also had the major problem that other people were having of filter items randomly being messed up and items going everywhere and emptying the filler items from the filter chests breaking the whole system So, what I found is that there were at certain times minecarts running through the system with only 2 or 3 minecart hoppers in the slots leaving empty slots at times causing the minecart to pull additional filter items that it should not be pulling from the chest which was ultimately causing lots of problems obviously so at first all I did was place a chest right above the entrance of the waterlogged rails and filled it with minecart hoppers to ensure that if there were any empty slots then it would fill the empty slots of the minecart hopper and simply move right to the end of the system and discard the minecart in the overflow. The waterlogged entrance slows down the minecart hopper enough to pull enough minecart hoppers from the chest to ensure it doesn't go through with empty slots. But this led me to wonder WHY was there some minecarts with empty slots in them and I could only surmise that it had something to do with building the sorter across multiple chunks or the input system was built across multiple chunks so I found that building a simple chunk loader to ensure that the sorter did not stop functioning solve the problem of minecart hoppers with empty slots. I have tested this for a few hours and not once has the system broken so I suspect that the problem is when you build the input system across multiple chunks or that chunks are unloading or something Anyways, for now I will keep version 1.1 as changing it now to 1.2 is a lot of work.

[@ToddShannon]

These are great ideas. I accidentally flew away while my system was sorting and I destroyed like half of my item filters when the carts stopped. I'll have to add a chunk loader or two to the system.

[@LyZ_Recreate]

I make the sorter a while a go, and some times it would break so I was to scared to use it. now I have this to look forward to building.

[@numberboxgamer]

Ah fantastic! I was just about to build the sorter, so this is fantastic!

[@MrTaskmaster1]

I wish I had a computer good enough to run Java because I would so build this. It would take me 12 hours but it would be worth it. Well done man. You earned a sub today and you can thank Hermitcraft for plugging it. :)

[@libbyarmstrong1740]

First Tango now Scar is building this sorter. GG Lummie.

[@InimitableMrG]

I love the almost parallel nature you use here to speed up the process. Are there any plans/is it even possible to add a shulker unloader to the mix in the future?

[@lummiethief]

There are very much plans, and it is very much possible :)

[@migats2160]

I ran into a problem. It turns out I had the levers powering the rails on the wrong spot. They were locking the hoppers. So be warned for that.

[@ThePro1604S]

Your Amazing cant wait to build the fix and use my system!

[@kingundfaker]

Nice work with the update. I will try that the next days

[@clovinator]

minor, but possibly a very important change i made: at the hopper return dispenser: replace the activator rail with waterlogged powered rail. if a tnt happens to go trough... it will safe your sorter!

[@lummiethief]

I think it needs to be an activator rail still, since if a hopper cart is on the track and a non-cart item gets dispensed, the cart might pick up the item which would break everything. Does a waterlogged activator rail instead of a waterlogged powered rail work?

[@clovinator]

@@lummiethief i tested it a few times, extra items still got in to the chest. I'm building this on a survival server. So this change will get tested a lot more. With a waterlogged activator rail the carts dont break when entering the water stream. So i might have to change that

[@rabie_rabit746]

Dude adding a shulkerunloader to this machine will be so awesome and make it so much easier to use Other then that this system is awesome I love it and plan on using it in my skyblock streaming world over on twitch

[@dylan706]

Yes please add shulker unloader

[@duffry]

Embarking on building this setup. Huge thanks for the design and all your effort in upkeep. One thought, it would be nice to have fast shulker unloading. Could the input chest be replaced by a shulker that you either manually fill or is the next from a chest of shulkers you load in? I'm assuming that unloading shulkers into the input chest would bottleneck at that step. But I'm too much of a newb to know how to edit this design to include that concept (or if it even has legs). Thanks again though, take care.

[@lummiethief]

No you're exactly right, putting a shulker unloader into the input chest is a huge bottleneck that cuts the speed of the system in half. There's not a super great way to get this thing to work with shulkers, but I'm making a new system that works with shulkers really well. Don't know when that will come out though

[@yeetara9064]

I literally built almost the same thing by building the same concept weeks ago. but I think this is better

[@liosscip]

Since you posted you are currently building sorta "v3" Version with integration shulker unloader, i just wanted to know how far to the completion that is. I'm currently in preperations to set this on up in our SMP, but would wait a few days to do so if the new version is "around the corner" Thanks in advance for the info (:

[@lummiethief]

I really have no idea when it will come out at this point. I just started college classes again and have so many things going on that the sorting system is sadly the last thing on my priority list. I can't foresee it coming out any time soon

[@liosscip]

@@lummiethief Thanks for the info. No worries, looking forward for it when its ready (: i build this version in the meantime (:

[@FlamingMoai]

Big Brain wizardry. I like your commentary, would you ever consider doing a hardcore series?

[@lummiethief]

Probably not but you never know

[@ParabolaTechnology]

at the moment, with the exception of smartphones and computers from real life, nothing impresses me more than this)))

[@ludvik2008]

This is a great system! I would include a non-stackable item filter for the return of minecart hoppers as if you dont its very easy to break... I WOULD KNOW xd

[@rhettlauffenburger2976]

Hi lummie, super excited to build this design! Any chance you're planning on a tutorial for people who didn't build v1 and are starting v2 from scratch?

[@lummiethief]

If you want to build the system, I'd recommend following this tutorial on the input, and then following the first tutorial on the slices. The v1.2 slices seem to be less reliable despite my efforts, so I still recommend the v1 slices. I have no guarantees about a full tutorial.

[@rhettlauffenburger2976]

@@lummiethief okay, thanks for the advice, I'll do that!

[@weiahehobnapodnakalopsid4306]

hi this is a really clever build!! I have a really weird error and I hope its not random. Sometimes, an item gets taken out of the filter chest and not returned. The minecarts always have 4 carts and 1 item, so thats good. The chunks are always loaded. This is in a server. The slices are regular slices, with no upgrade. minecarts never get stuck. There isn't much lag. I've tried to reproduce it and predict it, but I only noticed this: I've never directly observed this happening by watching the minecarts and chests, when I'm standing right next to the filter chests. When I look away or walk to the input chest or just walk around the sorter, it seems to break lol.

[@lummiethief]

There was another quantum bug like that that I had to debug before I made the video and I cant remember the exact specifics of what caused it. One thing I can say though is that these slices that I show in this video are much less reliable than the slices in the v1 even though they on paper should be more reliable, but there was no way to know that until I made the video and people built it. If the bug truly is quantum, and it only happens when you are not looking at it, it could be an optimization plugin on your server. This is complete speculation and I have no idea if plugins like this even exist, but potentially entity behavior is being changed when its not being directly rendered by the player in order to save on computation time. In either case, I think your best bet is building the v1 slices but keeping the v1.2 input.

[@AK_804]

I'm here for Tango Tek :)

[@AK_804]

And now I am back from Scar LOL :)

[@slifer867]

This is probably the best MIS I have seen. My only suggestion for improvement is making it shulker-compatible. Manually unloading skulkers into that chest could become tiresome.

[@xiamusmc271]

Hey! You got a shout out at Tango Tek's channel! Newest video

[@ruminyx3075]

Im trying to make this with the additional levels stacked on each other instead of to the side, with 3 columns pur stack and 16 long, with 4 rows, so 64 different areas for things to be stored... XD trying to find a way to put them between the 1.0v and 1.2v kinda hybrid i guess. I got the logic working at least, just the slices are confusing to wrap my head around

[@lummiethief]

Yeah these new slices are awful to build and understand, and are only in very rare cases worth building. I'd recommend using the original slices I showed, which are easier to understand

[@ruminyx3075]

@@lummiethief lol, lots of waterlogging, i noticed

[@lyzi1792]

oh yes, this was my headake with the previous design. It came up to a point that i putted the barrels behind the storage to make sure to fix it quicker xd fun fact: only fy friend on the server managed to break the system. It happened to me only once and it was prob because i have putted the filter item in.

[@lummiethief]

Putting a filter item in will still break it, even after the changes, but it should be less likely to break when just using it normally. Also the new yellow circuit will make it so if you put a filter item in then it will shut down so it won't break as badly.

[@chrislunde3698]

@@lummiethief is there room to throw a simple item filter somewhere to sort out and delete your filter material?

[@horaz86nope24]

The Trapdoor for the minecart yeeter down at the bottom, has to be a trapdoor, i used a amathyst crystal, and that messes with the positioning of thie minecart in item form, which means they can burn in the cauldron

[@Cheesehead_Caleb]

Do you have a materials list for this to build ot in survival?

[@tothemoon1124]

This is top shelf. Works flawlesly, with three dummies lol.

[@theidiot01]

another issue im finding is that te filter system is replacing the filter item with a minecart and also not bouncing off the trapdoor to the yeeter

[@ianvanessen9356]

I’m having this problem too

[@theidiot01]

@@ianvanessen9356 never got a fic for it btw so i made my own multi item sorter that was alot bigger and used the classic sorting system

[@MAC_Metalw0rks]

Tango sent us here!!!

[@Eybmie]

I love the concept though I can not really understand it, was wondering if you could rebuild it from scratch step by step? All the tweaking has me terribly lost. >_

[@lummiethief]

I don't plan on making another full block by block tutorial. I'd recommend following the tutorial here to build the input system (but not the slices since the slices I show in this video are really jank), then going back to my original video to build the slices. Sorry it's a bit hard to follow

[@emmeroni-the-bean]

Thank you so much for this!

[@nikolastaterka9119]

hey dud, loved ur work but ive been having some issues when using the sorter with mods. I dont use any complex mod, only optifine, just enough items (just item stuff), falling tree (one hit tree farming),, better foliage (leaves texture improvement), shulker box tooltip (shows shulker box interior by passing the cursor while its on your inventory), cloth config (something required to use shulker tooltip) and xaeros world map (just minimap stuff). Does some of those seem familiar to you regarding issues by running the sorter? Aprecciate if u can help me with that, and great job with the MIS. Also, i read one of your replys in the comments about some mods that may alter the minecart mechanics, ive tested the MIS without even forge and it runs just fine.

[@lummiethief]

I have no idea, I've never used any mods when I play minecraft, but I dont think any of those would impact anything (except maybe optifine depending on the settings). Could you turn off the mods and test what you have to see if it works without mods?

[@popplestones886]

What if the dispenser that dispenses a minecart or a misc item is the sorter broke, receives a tnt?

[@lummiethief]

😳

[@ripfinity1009]

I'm not home to check but I think you can waterlog the rail, also if you feel like something is wrong with the sorter somewhere down the line, check the dispenser as there could be bone meal or some other items like bottles etc stuck inside it, shouldn't really be a problem if waterlogging the rail prevents the TNT from blowing everything.

[@lummiethief]

The old sorter had the same tnt problem too, since if a tnt got into the minecart chest it would eventually make it's way down to the dispenser that dispenses the carts and could blow up. This just catches it first. You shouldn't worry about it too much, but if your sorter breaks a lot you might want to play it safe and not sort tnt. That or waterlog the rail.

[@ripfinity1009]

@@lummiethief You can also make a system that takes an item out of the dispenser if it remains there for over X amount of time. Would solve all the usable by dispenser items backlogging the system. Ofc this is a lot of min maxing for a potential breaking situation that shouldn't happen but.

[@popplestones886]

@@lummiethief yeah I was more joking, would be pretty funny, I remember in my last storage I added a tnt filter before the shulker unloaded in case someone put tnt in

[@JoshuaKoerner]

Have you considered posting this to the storage tech discord?

[@lummiethief]

Yeah it's already there

[@anders3781]

Nice design, how about adding a shulker box unloader?

[@lummiethief]

Wait for v2 (still don't know when it will be finished, but progress is looking optimistic)

[@anders3781]

@@lummiethief awesome, am looking forward to it!:)

[@thesuitablecommand]

This is incredible! I am preparing to go industrial-scale in my hard-core world right now, and this will definitely be making an appearance in my base! I saw that it has a 16-item mode - does it break if you don't flip that lever, or does that just optimize the processing speed? Same goes for non-stackables, if they get into this system, will it send them to the miscellaneous storage or will it break something?

[@Kastumoem]

the 16 stackables need the mode or the cart becomes full and can't remove the filter item in the slice and will just head to the Misc slice of the sorter someone with enough knowledge could make a resend circuit that turns on 16 stackables if it detects full carts but that would also detect Unstackables going through the system so might be easiest to just check the Misc and send them back through after hitting the switch (or drop them in the right slices by hand at that point and try to remember next time)

[@maximfed]

@@Kastumoem A functional system that is able to sort 16 stackable items without a lever or affecting the speed already exists, I left a world dowland in the comments of the second video, but I don't think it would hurt if I leave it here too, it is based on the old input, but I don't think it will be too difficult to adapt. World dowland: drive.google.com/file/d/1i5DD8mdRU3RySnzgvdskUU4vNz2L86Te/view?usp=sharing

[@z1haze]

could you integrate a shulkerbox unloader system into this?

[@lummiethief]

I'm working on it :)

[@alwayslearningtech]

After building and rebuilding this sorter, I'm still having issues with the exact same slices each time. I've had issues in some other areas of my world with certain blocks not growing wheat despite being right next to a water source and other blocks around it successfully growing wheat. I'm just going to not use the slices that don't work. The system is fantastic and I've found other people online who have had similar issues to mine. I'm guessing that is the issue with my build.

[@ianvanessen9356]

My yeeter at 13:55 burns the minecarts and doesn't send out the entities. I followed everything exactly. Edit: I downloaded your world file and it works fine. I also built it from scratch on your world file and it also works. I copy and paste it directly into my world and it does not work... I also copied and pasted my non-functional copy into your world and it works... wth?? Edit2: I think I started my super-flat test world in 1.18, and upgraded it to 1.20.1. Maybe because it started before hopper-minecarts could drop it doesn't work? Does that make sense? I built it on a brand new world and it worked.

[@MW-dh8eq]

Thanks for this great invention! It’s amazing! I built it in a server, and for the most part it works fine. However the sticky piston that retracts the powered rail / activator rails when an item is pulled from the filter chest, and then extends again when the item is returned does not actually extend again once it has retracted. I tested having just a sticky piston facing different directions but even with no rail or blocks being moved the piston does not activate at all when it is facing west. I also tested in a single player world with the world download, and the issue does not exist there at all. Is there any advice for what else I can do to debug this? Edit: I did change out the trapdoors as you say in the comments.

[@lummiethief]

The problem might not be with the slices but with the input system. Make sure that every cart you send into the slices has 4 blocker minecarts and then the filter item.

[@MW-dh8eq]

Thanks for your reply, the input system is totally fine, it always fills the correct number of minecarts. The issue is that when I’m making the filters (when I set the number of filter items and swords to listen out for the piston retracting and extending) the piston will retract but not extend again after. I have the correct number of items in the filter as the identical set up works in different facing slices

[@lummiethief]

@@MW-dh8eq does the filter chest get the item put back into it, and even with the chest full the piston does not extend? If so, that is very strange. There's someone else who left several comments about the order of placing some of the components mattering, but I never experienced that in practice so idk. Ill see if I can find the comment though

[@guillaumescherrer5658]

Lummie, i think i'm getting crazy. i rebuilt the input according to this version, it works but every time i put to much items to sort, the slices break. Exactly like you say in the video at the 29th minute if i remember correctly... sooo i'm gonna build the new slices and see if it solves the problem

[@guillaumescherrer5658]

My issue is that when the minecart hopper gets to the slice with the item to filter, it gets suck and everything but then the filtered item is replaced by a minecart in the upper double chest and so it breaks my slice... V1 slices btw

[@lummiethief]

@@guillaumescherrer5658 Are you playing on a server or with any client mods? Some can affect the behavior of minecarts and cause this type of problem. I'd recommend building a few of the new slices and testing them, and if they don't work then the server you're playing on probably just doesn't support this type of system.

[@guillaumescherrer5658]

@@lummiethief first of all, thank you for your quick answer ! I'm playing on a solo world with fabric/sodium; idk if fabric or sodium affects the minecarts behavior, if it's the case i'll cry fr 😭 but yeah, i'll try building some new slices and will test them, i'll let you know if it works 👍

[@guillaumescherrer5658]

Juste looked up on the web, apparently none of them affects the minecart behavior and it only happens on some slices so really it confuses me totally

[@lummiethief]

@@guillaumescherrer5658 yeah I guess try the new slices since they can be more fine tuned by adding an extra hopper to the bottom on slices that don't work. Idk why the old slices aren't working though, really weird

[@izayaorihara7059]

I have a weird problem. I sorted the sorter chest in the slices, the hopper minecarts pull their item from the chest, the rails retract, but the minecart continues forward, does not go "in" the slice. Anyone might know why this happens?

[@SandCaribou1890]

Nice. Well done :)

[@HowslyOfficial]

This looks awesome. Can you modify it to work with 8 stackables somehow?

[@Whitewing89]

Do you have the dimensions and block list needed? Also the included mistakes and being quick with things like hopper placement and direction is going to make this harder to follow as a guide.

[@lummiethief]

The input is 5 x 13, and the slices are 1x13. Someone posted a material list in the comments somewhere, and sorry about the mistakes, I'm only human.

[@Whitewing89]

@@lummiethief just some constructed criticism.

[@ruminyx3075]

soooo, im trying to find a workaround for the minecart yeeter, as the server im on doesent seem to break the carts when they go on slabs or stairs, or into clusters

[@ruminyx3075]

so idk what im doing wrong lmao, but i tried in singleplayer vanilla, on 1.19.2, 1.19.1, and 1.19 and the hopper minecart just wont break with amethyst or slabs/stairs

[@ruminyx3075]

the showcase works perfectly, ima make a litematic and try to do that on the server.... lol i got most of it figured out atleast

[@TheiBunny]

@@ruminyx3075 the slabs/amethyst blocks aren't what breaks the minecarts - the lava cauldrons are. When they reach the non-full block at the end of the rail, they skip down to the piece of track below, passing through the cauldron, which breaks them instantly, then because it was in the process of skipping somewhere else, the items it was carrying are yeeted to where the minecart was going

[@ruminyx3075]

@@TheiBunny that makes sense o: i had everything, just not in the right places lol

[@otterwellington]

I really like this design and the simplicity changing the layout. But is there any recommendations on fixing the bottleneck with the hopper? Considering the item output by the carts far overrun the hopper speeds. (This problem only exists while not running 16-stackable mode)

[@lummiethief]

The items being put into the chests will always be limited to 2x hopper speed, but this system can sort items in parallel, meaning that if 2 slices are both working at 2x hopper speed, then you have 4x hopper speed total. So, by setting up your filters efficiently, and with an ideal set of items to run through the system, you can technically bypass the bottleneck.

[@alwayslearningtech]

I finally built this on my friends server utilising the 1.2 input system and the original slices with the new cart yeeter. It was originally stealing some of the filter items but I think that seems to be resolved now. I'll keep testing to make sure. I have probably spent more than 24 hours trying to debug it all and get it to work, with a few little mistakes here and there that I've fixed along the way, but I can't seem to figure our why it's only taking up to 5 items at a time...

[@lummiethief]

What do you mean taking 5 items at a time? Does each cart coming from the input only have 5 instead of 32?

[@alwayslearningtech]

@@lummiethief Hi Lummie, yes, it was only taking 5 items instead of 32. I removed a torch from the 16 stackable line which looked like it wasn't supposed to be there which had been keeping the powered rail under the input chest continuously powered, and now they all take 32 items. However, now the 16 stackable line isn't working. I've tried looking for variances between your design and my copy of it but I can't seem to find anything that's different.

[@lummiethief]

@@alwayslearningtech Hmm, you could message me a screenshot of your redstone on discord and I could try to debug it. Im LummieThief #2950

[@lummiethief]

@@alwayslearningtech sorry yeah you can delete your comment now

[@populous10]

I'm having an issue and wonder if anyone can help me out, I've built both versions of this sorter on my server with new slices also and both are having the same probs. It starts well the items sucked up 32 at a time, the carts are correctly loaded and sent on their way. However when it comes to the slices everything goes wrong. The items to be sorted arnt getting pulled out of the minecarts and the filters are breaking, I end up with a hopper minecart in the filter chest in place of the set filter, I also end up with 3 or 4 hopper minecarts in the chest where the sorted items should end up, the carts then continue on their merry way to the end of the line.

[@lummiethief]

If you get carts in the filter chests, it means that the slices aren't pulling 4 carts out before the cart goes over the return hopper, which leads me to believe it's probably not waterlogged correctly. That, or the server you play on has some optimization plugins that could effect hoppers, in which case the sorter probably won't work. Worst case scenario, you could rebuild the slices using the v1 slices which are more consistent than the v1.2 slices

[@nonameno8065]

here once from Tango, then a 2nd time from Scar

[@red_planete8520]

Hey, i might be the only one but i've got an issue ( may come from the paper settings server i am playing on). When the minecarts comes under the chest to suck the filter item and feed it back into the chest i always have the problem that the item thrown back in the chest is the one in the first slot of the hopper minecart so it's a minecart how send back in the chest and breaks everything then. Hope it can be useful to anyone and i known their might never be any solution for this but Thank you so much for your effort in buildong this incredible multi item sorter lummie Thief.

[@lummiethief]

did you have the new slices or the old slices? If you built the new slices, you could try replacing the wool block directly under the soul sand with another hopper, since it sounds like the hoppers just aren't sucking out enough items.

[@red_planete8520]

@@lummiethief this is the new one

[@red_planete8520]

@@lummiethief and ok thank you for the advice i will try it out

[@red_planete8520]

Thanks for the suggestion it was what to do even if i had to found a spot to put another hopper. Seems to be workinh with one below the soulsand and another one at the place of the first stair of this rail line

[@drewclark6704]

@@red_planete8520 This fix helped me out quite a bit. The slice right before misc still has the issue, but I may have made another error in the system

[@AmandaComeauCreates]

I have the minecart recovery system working but something is seriously up with the cart dispenser on the input system. I'm getting so frustrated xD and I'm watching his back by block

[@wetnoodle5471]

This is a really interesting system, and I want to build it on a server I'm on! I'm just a bit concerned about the hopper minecart costs - we don't use iron farms on the server, so I want to use only the amount needed. How many hopper minecarts would be needed to ensure the machine runs correctly?

[@lummiethief]

Oh jeez, if you don't have an iron farm you might not want to build the system at all xD In terms of number of hopper carts, it depends on the size of your system. I'd say 1.5 - 2 double chests would be sufficient for most people, but yours might be a lot bigger or smaller, so I can't say exactly.

[@wetnoodle5471]

@@lummiethief oh alright, got it, thank you. I was testing out the system earlier, and it's probably not for me anyways - if you fill up the chest all the way with a single item, about 23 items are lost to despawning from my testing.

[@maxmustermann3760]

@@wetnoodle5471 If you have The inventory full of one single Item, why do you Put it in The Sorter instead of directly Putting it in The right chest?

[@wetnoodle5471]

@@maxmustermann3760 I was planning to put a shulker unloader as the input to this farm. I was going to use much more than a double chest if it worked with this farm.

[@martinsieburg7953]

I can't get the Item sorter to work. the very first minecart breaks the system and gets stuck inside the water logged stair directly above the item filter chest. I downloaded the world download, copied the system using litematica, pasted in my single player world, rotated it 180 degrees, build it to the point where there are no errors (red, purple zones), and the system breaks. As mentioned above, the first minecart gets stuck in the waterlogged stair directly above the item sorter chest and the piston did not extend since the sorted item did not return the sorting item in time. additionally, each minecart does not take half a stack, and I extended the repeater as shown in the clip, but nothing changed. How can I fix this? FYI, I was building it on a North-South alignment.

[@lummiethief]

So the first problem of the cart getting stuck in the stair is probably because you didn't waterlog everything properly. Id recommend using the V1 slices instead of these slices I show in the video here. These ones are only a last resort in case of random cart stoppage and not something you should feel required to build unless absolutely necessary because there's a lot that can go wrong during construction. Also for the second problem, in the 16 stackable circuit, there's a redstone cross that should be a redstone dot. I missed it in the tutorial. Try changing it from cross to dot and you should be good to go.

[@martinsieburg7953]

​@@lummiethief I had all the water locations correct, but found that one of the powered rails was inclined in the wrong direction.

[@Yofondo01]

I tried it and it works beautifully, but not in one direction. When the cart is on the final top track and heading north, it refuses to fall through the slab to the lava. It just sits on the stairs. It works going east just fine. Still good stuff.

[@Yofondo01]

and a mate comes in and points out what I did wrong,. Forgot the rails under the stairs. Did it with the other section, just not this one. Perfect work man!

[@watermight]

A bit confusing trying to build the slices directly next to the input, the video seems to skip that section.

[@lummiethief]

I build those parts in the v1.0 tutorial, so you could check that video for how to build that stuff.

[@watermight]

@@lummiethief Hello! I managed to get it to work somewhat, but now when I run it sometimes when I put multiple items in at once (stone, cobble, andesite for example) the water disapears from over the soul sand and minecarts end up going back and forth and the filter gets messed up.

[@TheBasher123]

Hey This is a great design however Im having the problem of when the piston pulls out the rail and puts it back in the rail becomes no longer waterlogged cozing the minecraft to be flushed into the system. It seems the waterlogged rails are flowing even tho i have put water everywhere. Please help I'm really bad at constructing these kinds of builds

[@lummiethief]

Make sure that the blocks before and after the slices are both waterlogged. Other than that, make sure that you follow the steps for waterlogging the slices exactly like the tutorial does. I can also recommend (although it would be a lot of work) building the v1.0 slices instead of the 1.2 slices, because they are a lot easier to build and work just as well as the waterlogged ones.

[@членопись]

If someone sees this comment and knows redstone better than me please make a system that takes items from the chest without pressing the activation button, my skills in redstone are not enough to do it

[@joshgalway2097]

my water keeps disappearing if the piston goes in for the Wight listed chests any idea im on a server

[@lummiethief]

Make sure that you have everything waterlogged like I do in the video. Its easy to miss some places so just double check that you did it all correctly.

[@Hihi-xu5xi]

How would you go about adding multiple miscellaneous slices?

[@micheledesci]

Is this the last vertion? So I can build it?

[@lummiethief]

Yeah this is up to date.

[@micheledesci]

@@lummiethief thx

[@jeromeouioui9972]

Very good design nice you get a sub for that and a like

[@nembutsu1045]

my dropper elevator doesnt seem to work, it just ends up clogging the bottom 4 droppers which clogs the hopper line, so there arent enough minecarts to put into the first as blockers. will update if I find anything update: next day, I built using a schematic from the world download. the dropper elevator there has like 7/8 droppers. reduced it to 5 like in the original, worked perfect. added 1 more to make it 6, still worked. also moved the tracks away from any dropper or redstone ladder. maybe that does something

[@Fedor334]

what happens if I put an item that stacks by 16 and don't turn on the desired mode?

[@speedfail1360]

It just filters to the miscelanious slice because it cant take an item out of the filter

[@KrisTC]

Dang. I just built it. And do have issues. Thanks for the update. Love it when it works though. #upgrade

[@KrisTC]

Note that I watched a bit more of the video. I had all the issues from time to time, so very excited about this update. FYI am playing Minecraft on my old 2015 MacBook Pro 13” with fabric, sodium etc. wanted this storage to be more lag friendly than my classic huge chest storage with basic auto filler. Support for slower servers is approved. I laugh when watching videos of people trying to get Minecraft from 50fps up to 100s with things like optifine. I install performance mods to get me up to 30fps (need new laptop) but love Minecraft and this one still works!

[@castours8290]

What can I do against tropical fish spawning at my item sorter? They keep spawning and fill that one chest that prevents the item sorter from working.

[@lummiethief]

I don't think there's anything you can really do about that, since fish can spawn even in bubbles and waterlogged blocks. Unfortunately I think you have to move the system to a biome where fish can't spawn

[@castours8290]

@@lummiethief Yep it seems so. Because the minecarts colide with the fish. Luckily with 1.20 you can change a biome with commands.

[@whynaut1]

Soooo... when are you going to make a bedrock version?

[@lummiethief]

I likely won't, I don't enjoy working with redstone on bedrock edition. Sorry :(

[@G33v3s]

What does 16 stackable mode do differently? Well it break if I don't separate my inputs?

[@Tactcat]

amazing fixes! oh shit, v2........

[@iStillFail]

So I built this on my friends forge server and the minecart does not get sucked down through the soul sand when the filter moves the rails, instead it just moves on and goes to the end of the sorter system. I tried to slow the mine cart down with normal rails but while it then works on the soul sand it just deposits a mine cart into the filter instead of the original item and also since it’s normal rails it slows everything down. Any suggestions?

[@lummiethief]

Sanity check: make sure there is a rail directly below the soul sand, or else the minecart won't clip through. If that's not the problem then I don't know if there's a way to fix the issue unfortunately :/ Forge must mess with minecart timings somehow, and there isn't really anything that can be done because this system is very reliant on precise minecart timings. Sorry about that

[@alexcayer8451]

is this farm directiona'l

[@DashPum4]

Very cool sorter! I might build this, my one question though is could i add a shulker box unloader instead of the input chest to allow you to give it more items, and could i add shulker box loaders for bulk storage? Those are the only 2 things that i think would really make this design better. Id love it if you could demonstrate a slice that is for bulk storage in a future video.

[@lummiethief]

I'm sure you could add shulker box loaders instead of chest walls since once you've got the items into the right slice, you can have them go anywhere you want. I didn't want to mess with any shulkers because I wanted to make this a good mid game sorter. A shulker unloader into the input chest might be a bit tricky because I'd assume your shulker unloader would work at 2x hopper speed max, which would throttle the system, and there also isn't much space to play around with in the input system. I'm sure it's possible, it just might take a bit more tinkering than would be ideal.

[@daeins]

@@lummiethief honestly ive considered adding a sorter to seperate the shulker boxes at the end of the MIS next to the overflow, and then just unload them and funnel them back into the input from there, just so it wouldn't throttle the whole input system lol

[@HrFrischeVollmilch]

I already did attached a shulkerbox unloader to the last version of this sorter (wich was great!!) but I let the items go via hopper in the regular input chest so you have the possibilty to use both at the same time. You can easily attach a bulk storage or silo to the system by just using the same input and output for the minecarts. You can also send the empty shulker boxes in the system easily by hooking them up wiht the same input as the shulkerbox items - but for my first try it was easier to just have a row of chest directly on the input but I may overthink this concept... The only thing you have to think of is the redstone lamp as optical indicator - this must be linkted up correctly if you change the size or position of the input chest. I love the new system because you now have an error detector and the system shuts itself down if happen so wich is simply insane for a sorting system of this size.

[@eashandai]

Oke, i do understand, well basicly everything going on, but..... how does that multi item filter work?! How do i program it? Where can i find info what is worth what? As in comparator strenght. Cuz i saw you fiddeling with the sticks and swords.....and that is the point where i got lost.