Ultra Form Review: Hellrider Kenshin! (13.7 Update) [The Battle Cats]

[@Gonajoongle]

they arent giving ultra forms to lugas because they already know papalan carries that banner and it needs no changes

[@Kamukura7th]

Papalan is so kind, shared 1% of his power to Lasvoss, Balrog, Amaterasu and UF Windy Thats why they can nuke and get recognition they have right now. Now imagine if he shares another 1% of his power to other ubers

[@NaLian605]

He's so strong that he sent to jail until his old enough to not have the power to broke the game

[@Original_Flesh_Panopticon]

What about g&m and almighties?

[@soghe_newdlez]

real and true

[@ravendefinitelyover188]

Wonder what an ultra form for lufalan would be like

[@dogmanbitehurt8243]

Imagine reviewing a unit with both strong and knockback and not making the thumbnail look like the boxing glove logo is hitting the punching bag

[@Majin_Trunky]

i approve

[@locusmomus]

You see, as this is an ultra form, the gloves are going through the punching bag

[@II-woOOoOOO]

oh my god I've been playing for 7 years and I did not know that was a punching bag

[@Kamukura7th]

Ghost Rider gangsta until UF Kenshin with -13s cooldown makes her entrance:

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

I wonder what Ultra Jizo will be like An Ultra Beefed Up version of 1st form Jizo

[@Darktanyan]

Now watch him get resist weaken ultra talent

[@Kamukura7th]

Insane dmg, guaranteed lvl3 surge, double bounty, base destroyer and 80% chance of savage blow

[@NaLian605]

Insane damage, aku targeting, shield piercer, 50% chance of creating a level 8 surge

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@@notshockwavedemon7543 it's Jizo, but his sprite is enlarged to Jizo Castle size

[@caiossauro4983]

@@NaLian605 Very weak also give him metal type

[@delta_cosmic]

I can't wait to unlock this ultra form in 5 years!

[@Kamukura7th]

As UF, it feels as if Ponos left it half done. Not that its bad, just needed bit more The sole fact of giving her wave instead of mini-wave would have turned her incredibly good as dmg dealer Or, if normal wave is too much even for an UF, then give her a perma-weaken and 100% survive a lethal strike with bit more HP and cost reduction Idk if UF Windy/Gigapult/Dioramos set the bar too high or she really looks that underwhelming for an UF but RIP

[@meepswag35]

I think if a unit requires 15 dark cats eyes, then it needs some drastic changes to make up for not using them on an already good uber

[@RedMagicA52]

I think that she should get sage killer and maybe another typing to make it more worthwhile to invest 15 dark catseyes in her

[@fawkewe]

Im not getting this Ultra form, but i am very happy Uesegi Kenshin is finally getting attention

[@FungallyInfectious]

if ultra forms and ultra talents had minimum level requirement of 50 instead of 60, a lot of these new ultra forms and talents would be worth the investment, the only ones that come to mind that are worth it as of now are ultra kaguya, gigapult, mad doctor klay UT and Baby UF

[@brandonnolan5372]

Entirely forgot Windy who might just be the best

[@FungallyInfectious]

@brandonnolan5372 windy is overkill for an already powercrept trait, for non-floatings it's easier to just get a fest uber than spending 15 dark catseyes

[@soghe_newdlez]

kenshin is my favorite uber in the game and I was super suprised to hear about her UF, she is absolutely super fun to use and she really shakes things up in a lot of stages, is she the best? no, but she doesn't really try to be. And I do really like how the new form is essentially a base stat boost to enhance her abilities and talents that she already has.

[@popg21-the-epic51]

1:04 almighty's i can believe but the luga's i can't PONOS clearly doesn't like the luga's since most/all of them have the most mid of talents

[@TreverEver-bs9sv]

Seeing the Ultra Forms received Wargod Ubers outright having dropped their Immortal in their name their potential form name and changed with their own main theming was quite interesting. First we're have a completely abstract horrific overgrowth Phantasmal Nobunaga. Now we're have Hellbiker Kenshin who's entirely self explanatory. And plus in the Battle Cats universe, Kenshin and Chronos were womens instead of mens. I guess The Battle Cats does have shared a similar thing with the Fate (a Nasuverse game they're collabed) franchise. So if there's any Japan historical figures expert here who read my comment, can you gave me a breif recap about Kenshin, please? Especially knowing about why Battle Cats' Kenshin were associated with the entire motorcycle theme.

[@ville4090]

No idea why Kenshin rides a motorcycle but I know a lot about him. During the Sengoku period, he was one of Nobunaga's rivals but his fiercest is Takeda Shingen. There's a reason why Kenshin is a waifu in game: there's substantial evidence that Kenshin may be actually a woman with evidences ranging from Kenshin reads books that cater to women to Kenshin is allowed to enter the women's quarters in the Kyoto Imperial Palace. His beardless portraits looks effeminate as well like the fair skin tone and the long hair.

[@TreverEver-bs9sv]

@@ville4090 Interesting information about the reason behind Battle Cats' Kenshin. And huh it's seems PONOS actually does did the pattern you mentioned about the mentioned Japanese historical figures you talked about. Oda Nobunaga got Ultra Form, Takeda Shingen got Ultra Talents and now Kenshin has gotten Ultra Form. That's certainly a coincidence based on your explanation. And also thank you for your explanation about why Battle Cats' Kenshin was a woman, my friend.

[@soghe_newdlez]

​@@ville4090i love learning japanese history wow

[@AllenNashh]

@@ville4090 Isn't Kenshin the motorcycle?

[@davimaciel5908]

​@@AllenNashhyep kenshin is the damn bike and the girl is hos wife i am pretty sure correct me if i am wrong

[@samuelkerr4912]

Ahh yes my favourite relevant enemy... Black Wind

[@mrorigen]

With the miniwave, she knocks back TWICE the distance in the same time span. Wow!

[@allanlugo7842]

I think the only wargod you haven't talked about till this point is immortal shingen with his ultratalents

[@jar_69420]

literally just heard of this guy's existence of how he makes content that hasn't existed and this video popped up

[@omabang5002]

- And here I thought Hellrider Kevin could be useful for KB relic duck Magamojoe for Mining Epic 😔 I forgot bro is immune lol - Maybe Ponos halt Lugas UF because they want to give them special abilities like explosion :3 one can only hope lvl 60 Papaluga with explosions - Even cooler bike! Motorbike score: S+

[@Miruuuuuh]

"May the gods show you mercy."

[@timmyreobed5043]

2:20 RIP LeNoir lol

[@nicki6797]

Ultra forms have been getting less and less broken ever since that huge relic tank

[@astablemultivibbrator8538]

On the other hand, we're getting good talents again.

[@footfeetus1837]

Ngl considering getting Spectral Cat UF, I always wanted White Rabbit to receive some kind of legitimate buff and when ultra forms were announced I assumed she was going to be one of the first batch to get one. Not a fan of the frontloaded LD but I still want to see how to plays out.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

i spend a lot of time using her and she's legit good. UF removes all of her main weakness (lack of accuracy and power). the problem with her UF is it has boring typing

[@footfeetus1837]

Would you recommend her Warp Blocker talent for stages like Glass Slippers? And in general as her standing range and knockback count are quite good regardless and it may or may not give her a better niche for starred aliens (I don’t know if you plan to make a UF review sooner or later). Unfortunately, I have the 15 dark catseyes and evolution materials. I just don’t have enough Uber catseyes from using them on Trixi and Thunder Jack.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@footfeetus1837 Spectral Cat now is very bulky and won't get juggled. Unlocking Warp Immunity actually helps her on many Star Alien stages

[@footfeetus1837]

Thank you for the advice!

[@Oswerb]

This update gave a lot of stuff to the Wargods.

[@disnameisveryshortsodontst9447]

Wake up babe, new SilumanTomcat Reborn video dropped.

[@eddy796]

Ponos skipping lugas and Almighties who seem to be stuck with UT is hilarious and concerning. Kenshin UF is pretty cool since 40 range is kind a hige change with how low her base. Wish the “cooldown” decrease was actually significant cuz it would of been cool to stack a huge army of kenshins but only being 13 secs is definitely a missed potential.

[@bukRealNoway]

lugas crawled so wargods could walk

[@mcaelm]

Will you be reviewing previous Ultra Forms eventually or were the Ultra Forms you didnt review just a skip?

[@TheArrval28]

UF kenshin appearance design is very good, it's way better than what they give to oda

[@RealityMasterRogue]

colossus slayer wouldve been a neat addition

[@assassinp.i.gfishman1148]

That's a cool motorcycle alright

[@JayramSivaraman]

Dindnt know that I had gravi or kenshin wow

[@dailyfactswithjack8622]

you put black wind as a relevant enemy

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@@dailyfactswithjack8622 what if on newest Zero Legend, PONOS use omega boosted Black Wind?

[@dailyfactswithjack8622]

@ nah, they’d save that for zl chapter 50, not right now, but I guess.

[@shinykitsune9992]

just like jack, a great knocker has been released (though i still like gigapult more)

[@Aquaduty]

masamune is crying in the corner

[@A.Bahumat13]

I wonder what Ultia form Jizo will be like... Will it be like the 1st form jizo or something, something truly menacing...

[@owentobias3270]

I’m really hoping that ultra talents and ultra forms aren’t going to be factor in this but I believe those who have ultra talents won’t be ultra formed. Because I’m seeing a pattern of it.otherwise ultra form Anubis would be op

[@candycorn-]

i keep thinking she has the shahada flying on her spear

[@abdul-warisalao]

Same

[@nathanielhiponia7580]

I'll say sbe has the goated attack animation though

[@adumba3709]

Man, ultra forms now seem very underwhelming compared to the first few that came out

[@DiceDsx]

I think this UF falls into the "good, but not worth the cost" category alongside Aervanta, White Rabbit, Dioramos and Sakura Sonic. That said, I still think Kenshin is fine even before UF: yes, Legend units have stomped Relics, but she's potentially available in that niche at the start of UL for relatively few NP, which is a good thing for many players.

[@TaseenAlim]

Dioramos is DEFINITELY not a part of the "good but not worth it" category. He gets insane boosts in his UF so, I say he is in the "MUST GET UF" category with windy, gigapult and baby cats.

[@DiceDsx]

@@TaseenAlimThe improvements are good, but I don't think they justify his 6600 cost, the 3rd highest in the game. That's the realm of Target-Only Ubers, which Dioramos has no business being in.

[@Fixional]

Dioramos doesn't have "target only", he can attack anything but his traits are angel and alien

[@AlbatrossWhisper]

Dio is fantastic and so is sakura for the combo alone. Super busted perma weaken and slow on metals. One of the few anti metals with both surge and wave immunity. I have it and will get dio in a few days

[@fittedurge4763]

​@@Fixionalhe's referring to how his price is in the realm of Ubers like saki who only target 2 traits but have a higher base atk stat to make up for it. Though I haven't read up on dioramos's stats, I think he has a good atk state to be a generalist, but his price makes losing him a huge risk and he's a dragon emperor so his cooldown is LONG.

[@SPZ-gv2on]

Cool design but mid. Feels like they were afraid of giving mini-wave + another good ability. Definitely not bothering with this one, dark eyes are too rare.

[@char1194]

One of two units I'm considering to ultra form, the other being spectral cat. And yes, its almost entirely for the fun factor, I love her gameplay tempo and the mini wave looks so satisfying.

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

4:47 You listed Colossus relic monke as KB immune but he's not lol.

[@alexb5701]

he's wave immune

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

@@alexb5701 Oh my bad didn't see that it was Knocked back and Wave Immune units

[@user-7vs6]

So it looks like we are now on round 2 of the UFs for banners then? Personally the Almightys are already op as is and would be better with UTs... and the Lugas just need a ground up rework...

[@TimoDmon007]

No waifu score ? 🤔

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

she is ugly

[@ville4090]

Uesegi Kenshin is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life)

[@omabang5002]

Motorbike score : S+

[@Majin_Trunky]

She is supposes to be a man but PONOS turned him into a girl

[@Pepro573]

Smash,next question.

[@shinykitsune9992]

hello SilumanTomcat, i think this is a weird question but if you have some of free time, can you note the requirements to beat SOL 4 star pls :3 (talents if needed)

[@zerkhos8116]

Dioramos UF review when ?

[@umusuarioaleatoriopelainte965]

Ok kenshin UF is great but WHERE ARE THE LUGAS UF? THEY ARE IN NEED OF ONE RIGHT NOW AND PONOS IS JUST IGNORING THEM?

[@l.ignasio7326]

what if ultra talent give Kenshin slow effect, even with just 50% chance she gonna be 1 hell of meta pusher again relic/black

[@matafannimE]

I don't know what happend at the Ultra Form department. Like, they released Windy and Gigapult and the essentially nothing else.

[@TaseenAlim]

We did get baby cats tho after that which was an awesome ultra form!

[@Darktanyan]

​@@TaseenAlimbaby ultra form is kinda mid. It's good because it gets carried by baby's stats and because baby is worth getting to level 60

[@daniel19465]

unrelated but i thought brainwashed gross was in the halloween banner? ive been preparing to go for it for awile now and it isnt here i checked the wiki and aparently gross is ONLY on one of the summer banners no way right surely theres more then one appearance of brainwashed gross

[@astablemultivibbrator8538]

BW Cats are changed every time a Seasonal banner comes.

[@henryrojas1054]

Are there reviews for ultimate windy and Cat A Pult ultra forms? I got enough to ultra form just one of them

[@TaseenAlim]

It's hard to choose between them because both of them are equally good. But I think you should go with gigapult because zombies and relics are more relevant in the meta than floatings.

[@lovingitman9461]

What would be the top 5 ut/uf to invest into?

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

kuu, ganesha, and gigapult are my top 3 the remaining is difficult to decide because there are so many good candidate but here my other recommendation: anoobis, windy, DIO, Warlock, Coppermine

[@Darktanyan]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn coppermine over akira?

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@@Darktanyan Akira is kinda powercreeped by new Aku/Alien enemy. And he also has the most expensive investment of all Ultra Talent/Form so it's not something that I would recommend to people

[@togakhan1274]

I think this is actually a decent Ultra Form. Windy, Dioramos and Gigapult set the bar too high with their UFs. If we keep going in that direction, we will get too many broken units in a very short while.

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@@togakhan1274 blame PONOS for gate-keeping it behind 15 Dark Catseyes. If UF were more accessible, the standard would be lower.

[@togakhan1274]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn That's true. I would rather them make Dark Catseyes more accessible than keep releasing too strong UFs.

[@Sl4ckChim3ra]

Cool

[@RamenCatGaming]

i dont think balrog will ever get ultra talents or even an ultra form. If he does, they’re only going to be hp boosters and immunities/resists

[@akshayreddy4071]

We getting fest true forms before that, atleast for the starting duo of the gaos and mitamas

[@sand7861]

HP boosts on Balrog would be fucking nuts lol no way they're doing that

[@RamenCatGaming]

@@sand7861 never said they were significant hp boosts

[@zerocrusade2531]

Balrog might be more fun if he gains dodge(all) like Mola even with proc low chance.

[@itsurboithepro7519]

lufalan ult form when

[@Catornado]

At least she looks sick tho.

[@JooceGooce]

Would UF Kenshin help with infernal tower 50? I don’t have any UL legends but I do have Kenshin and a ton of dark catseyes so maybe…

[@abdul-warisalao]

Yuh

[@he_carnation]

So, Who is better? Ultra Talented Kuu or Hellrider Kenshin? (I have both tho but I invested on Kuu first)

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

monkey daughter

[@Kaghtaviy]

Kuu

[@crazycat482]

Yes. Waste all the mid UF on kenshin, give the op one to yoshimoto in like 2 years maybe

[@Frozzfire_Blackheart]

People talking about lugas and almighties dont have ultra form. I guess monster girls left the chat then because of how forgettable they are 💀

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

most of monster gals just recently get their regular talents. ponos probably wants to give them time distance before add ultra form

[@minhduc1069]

Between kenshin UF and gravi talent who should i invest to have a good anti-relic

[@Darktanyan]

Monke

[@astablemultivibbrator8538]

Kenshin doesn't need UF, just the anti-relic talents. Both of them are very good (though take note, one is a melee tanker and the other is a midranged attacker) so you can go either way.

[@ville4090]

No waifu score because Kenshin is actually a dude in real life

[@caiossauro4983]

I think that behind windy that's the best ultra form

[@warionumbahone7642]

i doubt it.

[@Darktanyan]

Gigapult >>> Windy

[@caiossauro4983]

@@Darktanyan gravolon>>>gigapult

[@delta_cosmic]

No it's not. Stop spreading false information.

[@Darktanyan]

@@caiossauro4983 i am a huge gravi supporter, but i have to pick gigapult over him because of his weaken being helpful to other units too. And gravi doesn't make gigapult any worse, ubers can't outclass other ubers.

[@Running8192]

When JP anniversary?

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

usually on mid november. they already made an ads for it

[@Vouniern]

tl;dr: Kenshin Impact

[@CatRighTubb]

I would like, since he has U.F (Ultra Form) and U.T (Ultra Talents), because they only give him Mini-Wave, it doesn't seem enough to me, although it helps, I think something more would have been good for him.

[@SmugBora]

I don't wanna say it... I don't wanna... NAH I CAN'T HELP IT No way is that the game *Kenshin Impact*

[@TheStupidVerdeDinosaur]

Hell... Rider 🤭... Kenshin

[@陳廷允]

Seeing this, I can't help but wonder when Immortal Yukimira will receive an ultra form. I have the catseyes, I have the materials, I will be ready. (I don't have the NP though, so I hope it is ultra form instead of ultra talents)

[@Tekkonecko]

She pretty 🤤🤤🤤

[@sirajthecatlord9811]

So which ultra form should i prioritize Windy Dioramos Oda Nobunaga Baby Cats Erphuan(only here cus i want to list all ultra form candidates) White Rabbit(Legitimately forgot she exists) Those are all the units with ultra forms. Which one should i prioritize and any relevant talents?

[@Darktanyan]

Gigapult

[@GrindyVine]

I won't be ranked any but Windy is a great choice if you want to oneshot flying, nobunaga is monster against black and aku I think the two are quite good for me, that is

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

windy and DIO are strong recommendation baby cats UF is kinda mid and get carried by their general stats

[@sirajthecatlord9811]

@@SilumanTomcatReborn any talents that I need? Just berserker and that's it?

[@SilumanTomcatReborn]

@@sirajthecatlord9811 berserker and ATK up for full power potential

[@chill2512]

Chill bro you are getting things too fast

[@АлексейСеребров-в1х]

Bad friend 47

[@R0ckdrigo1743]

I think PONOS doesn't want Ultraforms to be broken anymore. In the future dark cateyes may be easier to obtain and they don't want to have stupid broken units easy to get.

[@debbachedebbache5182]

even if dark eyes where easy to get I would spend them on like dasli or balrog before this UF

[@aaronsandoval7684]

I thought it was Himura Kenshin😭😭😭

[@goddamn2312]

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