Ultracapacitor Module Assembly

For the past four years, Preco has been integrating ultra capacitors into custom modules for the material handling, automotive and military markets. Preco also is actively developing applications to assist in the manufacturing of cost-effective alternative energy products in the fuel cell, solar, wind and advanced energy storage markets. Preco's advanced laser processes, screen printing, flat bed and rotary die press processes are all being used as part of the manufacturing process.
www.precoinc.com

[@treyshiznit]

All i can say is "Wow!" Excellent craftsmanship and attention to detail. It's the precision and workmanship that caught my eye, really...not just the ultracap bank. Great work!

[@Precollc]

You are correct. This video was only for demonstration purposes and did not feature a manufacturing technician assembling it. The caps were guaranteed fully discharged. Good catch!

[@paoloinverse8141]

that's the way to work: precise, clean, efficient.

[@DarrellRoper]

Nice production video but not a single specification was told.

[@kawasakijoza]

I wonder how they perform in a short circuit :D

[@Precollc]

This one in particular will power a completely gas-less "Formula Zero" kart. Some other examples would be hybrid vehicle applications, mining vehicles, military, busses and trains. Uninterrupted Power Supplies for critical applications such as radar, sonar, etc. As well as deep sea well drilling applications.

[@0meat]

This is why you don't put the gauss rifle in your side torso with an XL engine if you can avoid it.

[@Precollc]

The ultracap module does not replace a battery but is a rapid discharge energy storage unit. You're looking at 100VDC, 500 Amp, 80 Farads, 250,000 joules.

[@IlluminatedWhiteGuy]

I need one of these for my rear firing EMP device in the trunk of my car! That way when someone tail gates I can just flip a switch and take out their Engine Control Module with a serious electromagnetic pulse! lol That's probably what the military is ordering these for. Nice workmanship on these though. Good to see someones making something in the states!

[@adamackels73]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Plug in Supply builds a nice Lithium pack, but I was thinking a hybrid pack. Remember the Prius is nominal around 250v. This array being built it 60 caps at 2.5v each, which is 150v, and would need 100 caps. Also remember, these caps hold a small fraction of the current needed, but these caps would make a nice buffer though, if everything didn't weigh a ton. The PIS pack is ~300lbs.

[@Precollc]

The process is aluminum welding with a 3 KW laser with the 1 micron wavelength.

[@Precollc]

100 V, 250kJ, 78 Farads, 500 amps

[@HawkinsKlan]

There are many reasons for/use of Ultracapacitors. Ie...Regenative Braking in Hybred Vechicles, regular batteries can not accept the quick charge/flow of current Ultracapacitors nor do they last near as long. They will take our technology to the next level in many respects...

[@arfawcett22]

The little wires are probably for monitoring voltage between cells. The large aluminum buss bars carry all of the high current.

[@darknezz19]

Is this for a rail gun or bfg?

[@SkylerF]

so how many volts and farads is that bank?

[@Hoch134]

+Skyler F If they are connected parallely (which it seems), it would be 2,7V with 180kF. More probably would be a serial connection, which would equal 40,5V with 12kF. In total an energy of 486kC.

[@Aeasala]

Make 1,342,454,694,123,435,234,653,435,754,324 more of those and you can run both Aperture and Black Mesa.

[@bindgt4857]

... There is a sticker that we watch them put on the capacitor bank that says "Team Rainmaker" and "Preco Inc." Maybe information can be found on Preco's website. Also in the about me of this movie it states that they have been integrating into custom modules which will probably explain why cost was not really mentioned. The bank would be made to custom fit the application it will be used for. The cost has to be somewhat calculated yet they could tell you a ballpark figure probably.

[@Inception1338]

and what purpose does this serve ?

[@Nicap2]

And the point of this video was.....?

[@WotanClub]

company presentation

[@silentunion0834]

Nicap2 Oh my, I just got owned.

[@Nicap2]

I'm sorry if my comments sounded like a personal attack, they were not meant as such. What I was trying to say, in my (probably badly worded) original post, was that KZbin isn't the place for advertising commercial products. I'm guessing that the market for massive capacitors is quite specialised. I'm not doubting your engineering skills at all. Just don't see the need for it on KZbin :)

[@MaRK0849]

Nicap2 KZbin isn't just for cat videos and fails.

[@David-yg8tf]

Business often use KZbin to host videos... to put on their website. In their generosity, they'll allow KZbinrs to gawk/drool/be inspire...Others will simply private their videos.

[@m101ist]

Electric cars, electric fork trucks, car batteries, cordless drills the list/possibilities goes on.

[@bassbacke]

It looks like you would need 5.5 of these units to get the equivalent of 1 kWh. Electric cars usually have around 24 kWh, Tesla's Model S up to 85 kWh. Can you imagine the cost, weight and size for 85 kWh using these super capacitors? That would be 467.5 units. Does not look like an alternative for cars.

[@philkarn5661]

Konstantinos Kostis They're not meant to replace chemical batteries because as you point out they have much worse energy density. They're supplements to provide much higher peak powers and also to accept high power during regenerative braking when the main battery is nearly full. And they do this with a much longer cycle life. That's why these things are being applied in electric and hybrid buses, because they stop so frequently. They could also be used in subways when the power company doesn't want you feeding power back into the grid.

[@keithreynolds7740]

Konstantinos Kostis "Does not look like an alternative for cars." How about drag racing. One wouldnt need 85kwh for a dragster. When it comes to drag racing, whats more important is how quick you can use energy for a given weight rather than total energy capacity.

[@philkarn5661]

Keith Reynolds Some electric drag racers already blow away those powered by internal combustion engines (ICEs). The high energy density fuels give them good endurance, but ICEs are inherently limited in peak power output by 1) the energy in each kg of fuel/air mixture, 2) the amount you can draw into each cylinder and 3) the rate at which you can do it. To increase (1) you use exotic fuels like nitromethane and nitrous oxide. To increase (2) you increase the displacement and use turbocharging. To increase (3) you use more cylinders and run the engine at a higher speed. All approaches are difficult, costly and often severely impair engine reliability. Unlike the ICE, electric motors have no well-defined limits on peak power. It's only limited by heat buildup, and given their much higher efficiencies that already gives them an advantage. With their thermal inertia they can operate at extremely high peak powers for short periods. All you then need is a way to provide an extremely large power for a very short time, and ultracaps are ideal for this. Basically, once you go electric with a drag racer, motor power is no longer your biggest problem. Keeping the tires on the pavement is your biggest problem. Use a linear induction motor (which eliminates traction problems) and your next limit probably becomes the g-forces that the driver can survive.

[@keithreynolds7740]

Phil Karn, Great point, My thoughts exactly.

[@AvZNaV]

Finally, I can vaporize a person now!

[@crackerworld]

beautiful module with good quality :D surely it will cost an arm and a leg combined :P

[@RobotUnderground]

Looks like a great product. Much nicer than anything I can build right now. The only thing that didn't like what that the tech was wearing a gold ring and watch which are of course no-no's in assembly and in dealing with electronics... But I assume that you're not worried about static build up on the caps which is what the jig does in the video. (Shorting them during assembly).

[@NedTheDread]

Capacitors have very little internal resistance which means they can discharge all there energy, very very quickly and with very high current. Batteries (of any kind) have a much higher internal resistance which limits the maximum current flow, meaning that although they can store more energy, they're useless when you need a large amount of energy very quickly.

[@oldtimeengineer26]

I thought I would at least get to see a real load test . What a bummer

[@AdrianDotis]

Thanks! I'll have it back to you yesterday.

[@B18bVtec]

When is a balancing circuit needed? Some banks don't have it and yet some banks do.

[@Folopolis]

When they are hooked up in series it is needed. When in parallel it is not.

[@VJkevlar]

I WOULD LIKE to see what would happen if shorted out fully charged .... :-)

[@RockStudioLive]

Beautiful job!

[@crackerworld]

Great job, I'd like to have a tiny 48v module for my ebike(as a buffer to my battery) but it will cost so damn much

[@Precollc]

Even if we told you, you'd still need Plutonium to cause the nuclear reaction in order to generate the 1.21 gigawatts.

[@kharnakcrux2650]

that's beautiful to me. Tesla would be proud

[@sandigiurgiu]

and it's nice to look at how it works, but it works is even better ..... congratulations

[@JamesdeChrist]

I am so sick of the FACT that average people do not commonly have large capacitor banks stacked up and ready for useage. To me this video = hope.

[@Justwantahover]

+James de Christ How many charges can supercapacitors handle before they wear out?

[@JamesdeChrist]

Vastly more than you could count. It depends entirely upon the engineering, materials used and other factors. Some are using capacitors in place of automobile batteries with great success. There is so much yet to be discovered but first we must stop this fantasy that everything comes from random events. How can you only want to hover?

[@Justwantahover]

+James de Christ And vastly more recharges with supercapitors, than with lithium ion batteries, I suppose. Super capacitors start cars cos they don't need to last long. But I bet you would need a thousand plus of the largest capacitors to make a 70,000 watt hoverbooard go longer than ten seconds. That's my guess. About God. I'm agnostic and don't know for certain if there is a god or not (and don't care, cos there is nothing I can do about it). But the geological columns is evidence enough for me to know evolution is true. The geological column displays data in the rocks all over the world. Like the fossil sequence (the tree-of-life sequence up-the-strata), the survival bands of the different species (up-the-strata), mass extinctions, ice ages, meteor impacts around the world, volcanic activity history (the list goes on). It's in the rocks (up-the-strata). Your flood couldn't have did that. Anyway I didn't troll you for a debate, I wan't data on the supercapacitor, and you say that they can recharge a countless amount of times. That's very attractive, cos batteries are bad for wearing out (and costing too much).

[@JamesdeChrist]

You just need to learn more to see why things do not work they way you have been deceived to think. If nothing matters to you then why think or why discuss- why live? Everything matters whether we like it or not. The statement that Darwin made was that evolution would be disproven if we did not find fossils in the fossil record which show all of the full array of creatures from the most primitive to the most advanced- we do not see that at all in the fossil record. This is a specific type of fossil. What do we see? Completely engineered and intact species with none of the in-between species that would be required for Evolution to be real. In other words were Evolution real we would not see a big jump in form from one specie to the next but a very slow tiny little steps and changes in form- multitudes of species in-between what we have found. The exact variances in human skulls exist today in the population of humans. Evolution is forced because scientists who disagree are blocked from membership and professors blocked from becoming full permanent scholars. It is part of the same agenda which spawned the Bolsheviks of Russia and Ukraine who slaughtered tens of millions of innocents. This is a group of ultranationalists who desire to takeover the entire world and impose a tyranny as they had done in Russia and Ukraine. The lunatics think Satan empowers them for killing innocents. They are the same behind Zionism too which is a fraud. They use deception and other of tricks to get people to fall for their lies. It was recently uncovered that the Scofield bible was completely made up. Now Christian Zionists falling greatly in numbers. Researchers have proven that none of the justifications for Zionism were real- Jewish Israeli researchers that is. They are the same group behind the false flag of 9/11 used to justify the war on terror. Endeavoring to know the truth is the most important thing you can do. It has been exposed that most Atheists and Agnostics still believe in God. Atheism is one of the things the Rothschilds push to weaken populations while they tell them they are stronger and more free if they accept Atheism, that Atheism means they are more intelligent. It's a trick. I think you are capable of understanding things. But you can believe whatever you like. Take care.

[@Justwantahover]

+James de Christ "we do not see that at all in the fossil record" yes we do. How can you say that when the tree-of-life-sequence is shown and shown in the ground all over the world in every university and they even shown in creationists videos. You are just trying to lie your way out of this. And what about the survival bands, the mass extinctions, volcanic activity, the meteor impacts, all shown in the geological column all over the world? HUMAN BONES Human bones (just by themselves) disproves your flood. Did every single human bone get dug up out of their graves by the flood (not leaving a single trace of human bones) and every single bone floated to the top? In the flood, human bones must have did this, cos the fossil sequence has human remains on the top layers only. And all the rest of the dead things got sorted into a perfect family tree sequence (somehow) when the flood waters receded. But human bones don’t float. And every single piece of bone, dug up out of their graves? lol If you don't believe that human bones are in the top layers only, book a tour of the fossil sites and have a look for yourself. WHY CREATIONISTS SAY SOME FOSSILS ARE “OUT-OF-SEQUENCE”. All the sediments originally formed the strata to be straight and level (always) but tectonic forces (over time) made the strata bent and buckled and on-an-angle. And you can see the angled strata protruding from the ground (in some places) and you can see that much of the protruding strata is eroded away (sometimes exposing fossils). This is why we see dinosaur fossils near the surface (that was once way below). And this is about the only reason we have found dinosaur fossils. And some more modern fossils are found near them, but the nature of the strata tells a different story. Most of the ancient fossils are found near the surface (that was once way down). But they do dig down sometimes, when they dig quarries etc. and sometimes find fossils as well. Sometimes the protruding angled strata erode (and some have eroded ages ago) and new (level) layers formed (sometimes with more fossils). And you can tell by the structure of the strata. This makes some fossils appear out-of-sequence. Creation sites are apt to point that out but deliberately don’t give a reason (like described above).

[@Gaexi8ie]

Лазерная резка - красота

[@curtis133]

I heard another manufacturer provides reactors that can use banana peels and other organic garbage, there's also the possibility to harvest a lightning strike but that may require time travel to identify a previous strike location, in the end the plutonium might be easier to get...

[@Precollc]

You can check out this particular module in Kettering University's completely gas-less "Formula Zero" kart on kurainmaker's website.

[@TheSenorTuco]

that gold ring makes me nervous

[@jamesweber1827]

The capacitors are discharged. When the buss bars were welded, there was a metal welding guide on the cap bank

[@RichardsWorld]

Was that machine cutting using a laser?

[@lazzer408]

Welding.

[@zraylin.khalitzburg2968]

lazzer408 it is not welding... Misterious it is a CNC machine. This one is a Plasma? i think...

[@lazzer408]

Thought he's asking about the terminals being fused (welded) at 1:49. The cutting of the interconnects at the beginning of the video is laser.

[@madjimms]

You should do a demonstration of a hotdog connected.

[@alexermerson]

Think of a capacitor as a one ounce shot glass and a battery as a gallon jug. Yes you can pour that one ounce really fast, sometimes even faster than you can pour an ounce out of the jug, but it only holds an ounce.

[@DoubleD2k6]

It was a "Back to the future" reference.

[@Derelictos]

Not necessarily, Lighting will strike our town clock tower on November 12th 1955. run a cable to the tower to your capacitor on this date and wait patiently. You will get your desired 1.21 gigawatts my friend.

[@NedTheDread]

I have no idea if that would work but if it does are you saying you could have a large capacitor bank slowly charging while you're away at work, and when you get home, dump it into the battery for a much quicker recharge?

[@MELOD]

If I remember correctly, someone said that this is for a Formula class race car.

[@MateusJaguar]

Cool construction, very good quality but very weak not telling any stats. I am watching the whole time waiting to find out the volts the amps the storage drain rate the charge rate, the weight. Why no information? Oh ya and the main one is what does it cost? Maybe I want to by one but if you don't tell me the price there is not way I can even get started in that direction. BTW this could be good for electric motorcycle and small boats.

[@zerohype]

Good job! I know that a capacitor can really deliver a boost of energy when needed to get something going. They can charge quickly and discharge quickly. I put some caps in my own EV.

[@brianwesley28]

He could check with the Libyans. I've seen some driving around in a van. If I ever have the need for, and means to acquire, such large capacitor banks, I'll try to remember you guys because I liked your reply.

[@Gigabecquerel]

I want to see this in action!!

[@jimmartin7899]

Does taking energy from the vessel generate any heat? If so could you not add a thermal electric generator to feed the vessel has energy is being used from the vessel?

[@baylinkdashyt]

Note that they're spelled "terawatts". And that there is in fact some question about the prescribed pronounciation of giga. :-)

[@ZebbMassiv]

I believe they can be recharged with simple brake power.

[@ItsPauly22]

and whats the total weight of the pack?

[@faradaysage15]

Their composition is like CF, they are VERY light.

[@Geortian]

A thing of beauty

[@lucifer0001]

Your system would be an excellent replacement for a high cost motorcycle battery with a connection for an optional small Li-iron battery for those bikes with a burglar alarm. Most aftermarket burglar alarms kill a stock sportbike battery in a week or two so this info could help when picking put the size of li-iron battery. The new li-iron batteries on the market designed to replace the stock motorcycle batteries cost up to $300 so a cost effective replacement would be highly desireable.

[@esaedvik]

It's Li-Ion (Lithium-ion), not iron :) You can build a supercapacitor replacement yourself too. Such as the one he did Replacing My Car Battery with Capacitors! 12V BoostPack Update

[@wesleyterry877]

Esa Edvik Li-Ion or Lithium Ion, normally (LiCoO2) or sometimes (LiMn2O4), is different from Li-Iron or Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4). Hes a good explanation of them here www.brighthubengineering.com/power-generation-distribution/123906-comparison-of-lithium-ion-to-lithium-iron-battery/

[@esaedvik]

Wesley Terry Ah right, I know of LiFePO4's, but didn't connect the dots as I've never heard them being called Li-Iron batteries, only the aforementioned.

[@moxncal]

i have a ?. i know nothing bout capacitors but couldnt you just use a microwave capacitor and connect them in series for a much smaller bank? arent microwave caps like supercapacitors?

[@electricsupercarsolarionic4070]

VOLTS ? AMPERS ? ALL module ultra capacitors IN VIDEOS !

[@HappyGolucky777]

So you think couple of em built boxes be enuff to properly power my ac 45 ev motor.?

[@jimmartin7899]

Wow you could make a light weight hydrogen jet engine that ran off water vapor in the very air using a capacitor bank like this! Novartis

[@kenstr321]

That's pro grade, How it's made shit there. Kudos... Kudos...

[@NateG007]

I noticed, this is a two yr. old video. I'm hearing a lot about supercaps and their use in solar applications for home use. In these two years, have you made some Modules for home applications and if so, what are the estimated costs for a complete module. If you are now welling to the public, this would be useful information to me, as I am trying to put together the most advanced package for home owners at the lowest cost. Thanks.

[@ordguy]

Just curious- With rapid charging and discharging, have you had any thermal problems? Would the module need additional cooling? or is the heat generated very small?

[@oz93666]

It would be 150v if they were wired in series , but four are connected in parallel then these put in series = 37.5V

[@KyleCarrington]

Interesting. This is how nickel is welded, very high current?

[@Tyrian3k]

Car? Plutonium? are we talking back to the future here? XD

[@LtShifty]

Best response ever.

[@CondoreComputing]

i want an insanely large capacitor bank like this :p

[@xtort107]

+connly33 I want double that one so I can parallel my Nissan Leaf Battery, and those looked like the 3kF boosters I did the math I need 150pc so anyone willing to donate to get my project going I would appreciate it greatly.

[@alvigela4746]

Really nice work.

[@jimmartin7899]

Does this keep a movement of current throughout the vessel to keep a harmonic resonance to maintain the power level of the vessel? = /

[@NedTheDread]

To get lightning to strike near you, so you don't have to travel, attach a spool of thin wire to a rocket and shoot it up into a thunderstorm :)

[@JeramieCurtice]

@2:39 those wires seem very small for the amps must be required for a application like that.

[@toysareforboys1]

The small wires are for a balancing controller. The two large terminals on the top (which are connected by the bus bars they welded on earlier in the video) provide the power output :)

[@TheLagartijamovil]

dont worry, with the Mr. Fusion we have power!

[@TheIntrepidus]

Preco, What if I told you that you can generate 1.2 GW without involving high grade nuclear fusion? Water is enough ;)

[@ivankoran]

you planning on time traveling?

[@coolfool70]

nah man..... he would need another .01 GW for that

[@jeetendrag10acc2]

***** and a horshnit deffabulator with protium condensates..which are expensive

[@philkarn5661]

Already been done. Take a tour of Hoover Dam, they can generate 2GW and all it takes is water.

[@TheIntrepidus]

I meant the tesla tech electrolysis without conversion to thermal energy minimizing the loss and than controlled combustion. Overunity effect proven to work by Stanley Meyer.

[@Surferant666]

nice workmanship, are those wires discharge lines?

[@billyjoebob13337]

So I'm curious. Ultracapacitors have quite the bit of current and amperage but don't seem to have all that much in terms of voltage correct? I'm planning on building a (somewhat) carryable railgun, which needs a significantly larger amount of power than a coil gun, which I already built. Are ultracapacitors like these suitable for those kind of discharges?

[@deepwinter77]

Can someone tell me what exactly this thing does

[@ingDemurtas]

What is this huge capacitor usefull for? It is just 0.07 kWh, while a same volume lithium battery would be something like 10 kWh

[@brucegast5168]

We run ElectricCars com and ElectricConversions com Please keep us up to date on your cap-packs for use in hiwa speed cars. When the industr is read we will be bridging the gap from batteries to new technologies like yours. If you know of any cars using our systems please let me know.

[@JoeJ8282]

He said 500 AMPS, NOT volts!... Pay attention!... But 100 Volts DC is still enough to shock you!...

[@stephencarlsbad]

Will these replace the batteries in EVs? Anyway to get an unlimited driving range using UCs in EVs as well?

[@Boredclub2ndgen]

great scott!

[@jjash5848]

How would this array fare in an electric vehicle compared to lead acid?

[@gabrielerazo4114]

nice power just wondering can these capacitors be used for pumps on hydralics

[@TheLightningStalker]

What you're doing there @2:30 is a good way to nick the individual strands of wire.

[@RobertLogic]

World's greatest bug zapper, am I right?

[@jimmartin7899]

No more jet fuel no more chemtrailing! Imagine that!

[@Snow.Drifter]

Out of curiosity, how much does a large capacitor bank like the one in this video cost?

[@RokKrznarr]

I find it ever so odd, that the screwing is done without powered tools...

[@joek0617]

bah, that stuffs easy to find, right? isn't that what e-bay is for?

[@7ngaf]

i love the background audio

[@DonovanLeach]

Well, let's see. An individual capacitor in this bank of capacitors is $70, and it's rated at 3000 watts. I'll let you do the math from there

[@aqwiz]

Would this be sufficient to power a particle accelerator, or would I need a few in series?

[@spectrospirit]

Where to get this and what is the cost?

[@WotanClub]

its cost a lot and u can get them in shop

[@Spoif]

BCAP3000 are 3000F @ 2.7V and cost anywhere from $65 upwards. There are 60 in the video so that''s approximately $4,000 just in components + controller + case + fancy plasma cutting cost + labour.

[@draculakickyourass]

***** Mock Donalds gives that pack as toy included in the kids menu:)

[@ahashdahnagila6884]

n04n1m0u5 "Mock" Donald's? Or, "Mick" Jagger's? (just joking with you)

[@theowl152]

No one is game to tell us the Price? may be the price will come down as the demand increases.

[@Hoch134]

+theowl152 One of those caps cost about 90€ for a private user. That would be 5400€ without welding, etc. Someone says that the pack costs $4200 in total which could be right because of the mass production.

[@NedTheDread]

He never said that the video stated 500 volts, he simply said 500 volts wouldn't feel too good. You should pay attention before you tell others to...

[@AdrianDotis]

I am interested in purchasing a flux capacitor that needs 1.21 gigawatts to operate. It's for a certain...car that I'm building. What kindof price will we be looking at here?

[@performancemudmotors]

can you use these in parallel with lifepod4 lithium cells. to control the sag when energy is demanded. i have built and electric super bike and i would like to control the voltage sag for dead stop acceleration. but ill need aroud a 72 min to 96 volt max setup

[@RavenBomb123]

I wonder what would happen if I hooked this up to a computer or 2... dis gon be good.

[@regiomontano50]

como investigador de las energías sustentables , es una excelente oportunidad explorar me gustaría saber y todas sus virtudes, de carga y descarga ya que no tratamos de usar batieras por ser muy duras de carga y muy fácil de descargar tratamos de explorar en la carga y fuerza de sustento de inversores de 9000 wtts, y mas de 100 amperios de uso rudo saludos y mil gracias espero la información y poder consumir sus productos,gracias

[@offgridd]

Mine!, mine!, mine! (Seagulls in finding nemo 😀)