ULTRAKILL's Community ISN'T Perfect, and that's OK

Truly, I'd give it like an 8/10 :)
Credit where credit is due:
Ichellor - 6-2 Animation
• GABRIEL Intro - Ultrak...
DontBlinqqTV -
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Spunklord5000 - Gabriel doing the orange justice
• GO WHITE BOY GO - [ULT...
Sheba | DrFeelGood - 60 Damage RailCoinPunch
• ULTRAKILL | Advanced c...
DJ Cereal Sauce - P2 P-Rank
• P Rank P-2 (the second...
Behead - 5-4 Leviathan WR
• 5-4 any% 11.585s Speed...
JFJ - I was wrong, Ultrakill is fun
• I was wrong, Ultrakill...
Ano Faa - 5-S Any% Speedun WR
• Ultrakill 5-S Any 17.2...
DarkNova - 1-4 Speedrun History
• How Speedrunners Made ...
Hakita - Mannequin (duh)
• ULTRAKILL 78 - Mannequin
DJ Cereal Sauce - We’re Rich
• Deep Rock Galactic: Sa...
The Socials and The Team:
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DJ Cereal Sauce on KZbin: / @djcerealalt
Nothing is Anything on KZbin: / @nothingisanythingoffi...
Variant Human: / the_variant_human
DJ Cereal Sauce: / dj_cereal_sauce
Weascree: / weascree
IllLovelace: / illlovelace
Peter: / @solkoroads7337
Turrent: / turrent51
Kirby: / moonlightkirby
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[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Hey, just so yall know, KZbin is apparently deleting comments I’m leaving on this video because they are considered “harassment” so if I’m not responding, it’s likely that KZbin deleted it because calling someone a “heathen” is harassment

[@sleeper6548]

2020: You should play ultrakill! 2023 (or after the mayo incident) : You should play the ultrakill like this Imo, mayo made our community very sensitive and now many people just start back seating in fear of another mayo

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Y’know, I didn’t even think about it like that. People reacted to viscerally to basically everything from UTM, to the point where now people have developed an identity about HOW they play the game, some not even daring to allow others to express that they like to play the game differently

[@puszkazaluminium2301]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 There is a reason we have a fucking Mayo% category xd. Dude literally gave entire community PTSD

[@epicnightmare5600]

​@@DJCerealSauce6455mayo definetly affected how the uk fanbase sees players who dont use or constantly switch weapons

[@kamilslup7743]

@@epicnightmare5600 i mean the game already does that with the weapon freshness lower freshness = less style points less style points = slower hard damage recovery

[@ConsarnitTokkori]

i think the uk community is generally at its best when it's casually enjoying the game, and just doing what they think is most fun

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I agree with this a lot, I think Ultrakill at it's core is a super fun game. Of course it's also heavily tech based, heavily skill based, and a speedrunners dream, but ultimately Ultrakill is at it's best when it's just a game to play to have fun, whatever that fun may be for you, and not trying to tell other people how they should be having fun

[@o.pjuanshenobi6645]

Noooo you can't just call ultrakill uk!!!!!1!!!1 its a slang!!!1!!1!!!

[@ConsarnitTokkori]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 user of "it's" as the possessive form of "it" spotted, blocked

[@Dr.Freeman...]

Why are you talking about the cursed land of the btitish?

[@oscarguevaraf778]

Why did I thought you meant UK community, not the ultrakill community omg 😭😭😭

[@BlueGuyTube]

The reason why backseating is so prevalent in the Ultrakill community is because the game itself is chock-full of many moments and mechanics that just makes you go "holy shit you CAN DO THAT?". This means that when a streamer plays it, many people immediately want to see their reaction to cool mechanic number 7. I have a friend who is dying to play Ultrakill but he's waiting for the release of Act III, and the only thing i'm going to tell him when he finally plays it is that weapons interact with each other and to experiment with it, i really want to see his reaction to the shotgun parry but i also want him to discover it on his own.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

this is the best way to get people into the batshit crazy mechanics, love it

[@PhotonZXY]

I hate Mayo

[@kamilslup7743]

@@PhotonZXY bro was just looking to start some hate for the sake of hating

[@Robocrab-td8dr]

Another point on how passionate the fandom is: I love the humor of this community, but going into a youtube playthrough of the game and seeing the 100 copy-pasted Max0r jokes will never not be cringey (great vid btw, can't wait to see what you will make next!)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

See that's the trick, I don't quote Max0r so I don't know any of the jokes I quote a lot of Trav Guy and Gianni from his fucking streams

[@cobaltordinaire5219]

⁠@@DJCerealSauce6455"I spiked an infant into a field goal"

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

O_O@@cobaltordinaire5219

[@ohmygodmateitbearinnitkid9251]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 "MY BLOOD IS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE IN 39 STATES"

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

O_O@@ohmygodmateitbearinnitkid9251

[@phonicdaguer7627]

I'm gonna be honest, this guy is one of the most relatable and fun youtubers to watch that I've found in my thousands of hours on this platform. Edit: hope this isn't gonna be a one hit wonder type beat like with a lot of small youtubers

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I really appreciate the kind words, I'm trying to keep up a certain level of quality with these videos

[@antoniogaravo9289]

23:17 his comment was : "it's a good thing none of you desing ultrakill, because it would suck" and he's 100 percent right

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Ooh yes, where? Was it on a dev stream? A discord conversation? I want to find it

[@SenyiKimmo]

yeah it's from the discord

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

heck, I would have no sensible way to find that, I imagine, unless I was to search for those words in the discord@@SenyiKimmo

[@wingdairu]

ULTRAKILL has become a huge part of my life as someone who is both neurodivergent and recovering from burnout. I've always used the metaphor of old computer architecture to understand my thought processes, and experiencing a game with direct, immediate movement feedback where I play a robot that has no room for any higher thought more complex than "kill everything" and "kill everything faster" is therapeutic and freeing to me. I went from from complaining about the game being too hard even on Accessible to P-Ranking P-1 on Violent, and that accomplishment is something I frequently use as a reminder that I'm not nearly as broken as I imagine. The game's combat has become my comfy place, to the point where I find a casual dual with P-1's boss in VR to be something I do just to unwind. At least for this unit, ULTRAKILL has been a therapy session wrapped up in the tightest FPS I've ever played. The silly goofball energy that the community has and the focused, thoughtful vision of Hakita & co. are directly to thank for giving a sluggish old machine like me a ladder to climb.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Wow, I never expected Ultrakill to be an unwinding game for people lol, I typically play it if I want something to warm up for "aim training", despite finding the whole experience more fun than a traditional aim trainer, so shout out to y'all for finding the game to give THAT kind of value

[@wingdairu]

It's like meditating. Head empty, only +Projectile Boost :)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

y'know what, I feel that actually. I jump in air, I toss my spare change, I get 4 kills :)@@wingdairu

[@ryanc970]

Neurodivergence and burnout are fr symptoms of having hours in Ultrakill in the triple digits

[@pandemonika1]

@@ryanc970 guess im screwed

[@codythecat01]

“Funny robot game” perfectly summarizes why I like wanted to find out what it was to begin with.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

It’s TOO silly, how can we NOT love it?

[@justaguywithamustache]

When I first played the game and P-ranked act 1 on lenient I was super happy, I considered sharing it with the community, I quickly made a reddit account to post it and the first other post I saw of someone p ranking p-2 on standard had at least five comments telling them to do it on violent or it wasn't an achievement at all. I got the hell out of there and never looked back, later I told a friend about it (a friend who didn't even play the game) and he laughed at me and called me trash for not doing it on a higher difficulty 💀. (Don't worry, me and the entire friend group ditched that guy). I know I won't be able to pull off complex railconpunches or crazy combos, but I still have lots of fun doing simpler ones, I don't care if someone says my achievement isn't impressive, I'm testing my own abilities, and I'm happy about my results.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Yeah I love ditching people who make me and my friends feel inferior, fuck em dude. Also I will direct you to a funny tweet thread of a guy playing the game on harmless and absolutely shutting down everyone who is trying to force them to play on higher difficulties, it's hilarious twitter.com/HeavyFortress

[@arson7012]

I'm currently playing on harmless difficulty. The way I see it, game difficulties exist for a reason. If the devs made an easy difficulty, people are meant to play on easy if they want to. Ultrakill is one of the most beginner-friendly fps games I've played without having constant handholding - I hadn't played any shooter games for years before picking up the game, and I'm still having a fun time.

[@kamilslup7743]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 lenient is my difficulty of choice but i've decided to also try and beat the game on standard and that went alright

[@chilldude7586]

as a (former) backseater myself, we have good intentions simply wanting to share stuff but we cannot hold the exitement in and it ricoshets inside our brain gaining speed until eventually we blurt out whatever random shit it is, usually starting with unintended things that became intended like punching shotgun bullets and then slowly making its way to saying every little bit of tech, which i finally realized how annoying that is so i stopped.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

this is totally fair, and I also have a hard time NOT telling people cool shit, but I also recognize that Ultrakill is particularly heavy on the backseating, which is why it feels like a much bigger talking point

[@Weppi4]

so the it's the classic "it's not a bug it's a feature"?

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Yeth

[@FrostedStar2005]

"Ricoshets" is a term that I was not expecting to exist, yet it made perfect sense to me.

[@chilldude7586]

@@FrostedStar2005 same here even though I wrote it

[@DumpsterManTV]

Huh, I'm honestly surprised this video flew under my radar for a whole week but I'm very glad it made its way to me! Given that I'm the person responsible for one of the most visible and scathing critiques of the Ultrakill community on this website, you might think I'm one of the people who might disagree with this perspective, but I've had a lot of people ask me if I'm ever going to make a proper follow up video to that since the community has continued to grow and change since then, and honestly... I'll probably just point them to this video instead, because while we've obviously had slightly different experiences with this community, to one point I can absolutely agree and it's that the good drastically outweighs the bad, and drawing undue attention to the bad parts of the community doesn't really do much to improve the situation past a certain point. I think my biggest takeaway from getting into this community is that gaming "communities" just aren't for me really anymore, I've met extremely cool people through the Ultrakill community (just gonna echo the shoutout to Westaxle and Dryzalar, also BGB and many, MANY others, those dudes are absolutely holding it down and represent the best parts of the community) but it was never my intention to personally become some sort of 'voice' for the community on this issue, and I think my experience varies so drastically from the average person in the community that I have to acknowledge I'm just not equipped anymore to make sweeping assertions about a community I've kind of willingly distanced myself from. One thing, in the past year or so, that I've personally had to come to terms with, is that the average age of people *extremely invested* in the fandom of this game is... Under 18 and probably even *well under* 18. I hope that by myself and other members of the community pointing out behaviors we've seen that aren't okay, these people can grow and learn but at some point it's gonna just be what it's gonna be. It's easy to imagine everyone I interact with being just like me, and having similar life experience, but I've had to acknowledge I'm probably a decade older than the average person that is engaged enough with this game to be joining Twitch streams and leaving comments on KZbin, etc... I got into this game for probably very different reasons than them and my experience and perspective of the community is going to just be a whole different thing entirely from them... And at some point, kids with unfettered access to the internet and games made for adults, are going to act like... well, kids with unfettered access to the internet and games made for adults... Which is to say, immature, socially unaware, and oftentimes... Just plain mean. And at the end of the day that's a reality of the internet more than it is anything really hyper-specific to the Ultrakill community. Anyways, I'm rambling, sorry for the long comment, great video and I'm happy to pass some sort of metaphorical torch onto this video since it summed up my personal feelings on the current state of the community better than I probably could have.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Holy shit man, 1: I would have never expected this video to cross your path at all, just due to KZbin recommendations and that whole logic being kind of nebulous. 2: Youre one of the people that I admire, being the person who I learned a lot from in regards to things about that game that don't revolve around the gameplay itself, so it's just a little surreal seeing this comment. 3: I was blissfully ignorant to the age range of Ultrakills fandombase, and I think it might speak volumes to the ways that they act. Of course I don't want to generalize the audience OR use that as a means of playing down the behavior they exude, but hopefully we can learn to move past it and not let it deter us from making the best out of the game. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video, and if you really think this can act as your de facto follow up to your community video, I'm very honored lol

[@DumpsterManTV]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 Hah well honestly it got sent to me, presumably cause of the similar subject matter. Either way, thank you for the kind words! No pressure or anything intended by the 'passing the torch' comment, I just liked the video and it resonated with me is all. I think I'm mostly 'done' talking about the Ultrakill community on my channel, I'm just not cut out for it. If I did have one regret from my video though, it was that I didn't talk about the positives of the community enough and so I personally think this video covers that aspect really nicely, and is honestly more balanced in its criticisms! I still absolutely love this game, and many parts of the community, but I've kinda swore off trying to talk about the 'community' for many of the reasons I stated above. But also for that reason I'm always really happy to see other people still giving good nuanced takes on this stuff and just in general being a voice of reason. Keep it up! You definitely earned my sub.

[@jdcleif8490]

I think that one of the "prime" examples of how the playerbase functions is MOONtyzoo's Sisyphus Prime video, where he fights Sisyphus at radiance 6. People frequently joke about how one day, people will p-rank the game at radiance level 10, and although these are usually aren't serious, I believe there is potential to complete challenges like these, which not only speaks volumes about how the community functions, but also how impressively the game is designed. When a player can beat a boss/challenge that is conventionally considered impossible because of how fast it is without needing to cheese, I believe that that is the hallmark of an incredibly well-designed game.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

On one hand I totally agree with this sentiment, that Radiance is impressive to watch someone beat it, and fills the gap for people who wanted to the game to be even more challenging without pissing off the rest of the community, but I REALLY REALLY hope we don't eventually go down the Souls-bourne tunnel of thinking the game get's a lot of it's value from being difficult, thus gatekeeping it from people who just want to play on the standard difficulties and not indule in Radiance levels

[@jdcleif8490]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 Definitely agree. I just think that the fact that these challenges are possible in the first place is really great.

[@kamilslup7743]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 "souls-like" in my head basically means "the only thing that matters is how much we will enrage you with bullshit difficulty"

[@chrisheartman9263]

"community driven engagement with itself is one of the greatest examples of brainrot I've, maybe, ever seen" You're forgetting UnderTale.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Oh… shit… you’re right… especially as a person who was inadvertently involved that community for a bit after it’s prime

[@Rem_safe_space]

Ok first off all, thank you for featuring Carcass in the video, it means a lot to me Second I relate to pretty much anything you said in the video. Interactions between comunity members is pretty much the best thing about this game, like the entire game is made with the philosophy of "do what the fuck you want" and people go nuts over it. Dev releases tools and recently optimize their code to make it easyer for map creators and now we even have a unofficiall (Rude) and an official (Tundra) level creator and the game is not even out yet! Tho I need to say it would be a mistake to not point out all the criticism you pointed out and... god there are many. Like the fact is that Ultrakill is a game that you can experience blind only once and that's why it's so exiting to found new players to join the fun! Tho the problem comes when you realize that the community is very finicky when itb comes to certain things: example, you can't use the drill or the alt marksman whitout getting roasted and when new players go off the "intended path" most skilled players would raccomend, that's when the backseating reeeeeeally makes a name for itself... Like Albino has to dedicate an entire video on how annoying backseating was during is UK streams, and that's not really a good look for the community... Tho like you said, is not perfect, but that's ok. I will be forever grateful for what the comunity has done for me. I'm grateful to Duv, who still to this day makes custom theme songs for my characters/stages, that helped me getting Judas prime popular and I was just hearing a few hours ago to work on the Carcass OST. I'm grateful to Leslie, who I helped for a prime concept and is now a great and reliable friend of mine and talented voice actress. I'm grateful to Hydra and Waffle, who helped bringing Carcass and Revenant to life and now are helping with my custom stages, cuz I just make models, art and animations and I can't code for shit, and concidering I wanted to do game dev for years now this is a massive help these people gave me. I wanna see this game- god... this comunity becoming more, create more, just I wanna see it succeed. Tho yes it has it's hissue, but it sure won't stop it, I'm willing to bet Thanks again (sorry this comment is so fucking long...)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Hey man no worries Carcass goes hard as fuck, so it’s a crime NOT to include it lol Also I’m glad to see the community being so generous and kind to you I think as more exposure and acknowledgement of the problem comes out, it will become better, because we’re in a fairly awkward spot right now :)

[@cewla3348]

yeah, i joined late (like august) so all of act 1 and 2 were spoiled, but im going through act 3 blind

[@NothingKingKN]

I think the issue is that the UK community has to learn that the more they try to force their play style on other people, the more pushback they'll receive. The most blatant one was when Albino played Ultrakill with people in chat and comments telling him how to play and back seating all the time, to the point that at last he made a video basically saying: "I know how to play the game. I know about some of the tricks. I know about weapon swapping, sliding, and momentum. I am playing using the slab revolver just to spite you fucks." Which... Honestly, fair.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

That's kind of what they deserve honestly. I think as this community develops more we'll be ok, but more people need to be ok with being intolerant of disrespectful behavior like constantly telling someone how to play a game

[@BatuhanDere]

6:32 i literally discovered ultrakill through gianni making ultrakill memes on his channel (it was the gabriel bike thief one)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

That is a great way to find out about this game, that is hilarious

[@ImNotSimon_totally]

my main problem is the whole "same joke over and over again with zero sign of stopping" type that affects like, 75-90% of the community. sure, i can *try* to ignore these parts but, pretty hard to do if it's everywhere. also the main reason why i left the newblood server, it was insufferable.

[@ConsarnitTokkori]

beats leaving it over the moderation still haven't gotten over that time one or two mods kept accidentally ghost pinging everyone and kicking people for mentioning it

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

what the fuck? That's so bizarre, how long ago was that happening?@@ConsarnitTokkori

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Also I totally get this, it's the exact same vibe as that Hakita screenshot that's like "I get that 'add sex to ultrakill' is just a joke, but that doesn't change the fact that I've had to listen ot the same joke for the last 3 years"

[@ImNotSimon_totally]

@@DJCerealSauce6455tbh there IS some blame to be put on newblood/pitr for this, yknow, that one specific joke merch item and the way controller rumble support was originally advertized/talked about as

[@CryptGirl38]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 it still is lmao

[@NemoK]

I love Ultrakill but god damn I've seen this so many times where people attach their entire personalities to a piece of media (games/films/shows) which inevitably turns into a cycle of zealous defense and overhyping of the game towards people outside the community, which only pushes people away who might be interested in the game. The thing you mentioned with the railgun also happened almost verbatim with another youtuber ConnorDawg. He picks it up and immediately chat tells him to combine it with the coinflip. It's just so predictable...

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

god that sounds fucking insufferable

[@hypertrollos4776]

I'm a simple ULTRAKILLER. I see FRAUDULENCE // 8-1 - VALLEY OF FOOLS, I click

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

We are all simple in that regard, there's something with 8-1 and 8-1 fan renderings that triggers the neurons

[@megablaziken8572]

As someone who has a back seating, problem with any video game that I have passion for not just ultrakill. I totally agree that this is indeed a problem. I can often find myself just really wanting to spew out everything for a game that I really enjoy and have put a lot of time into. to the point where I have to mentally confront myself to shut the hell up. Because at the same time as I want to give all of the information about the game. I understand that the reason that information was so fun to learn, was because I was the one who learned it. Now I’d like to note that I’m not nearly as aggressive as some people are. The only real time I’ll get REALLY lizard brained is when one of my friends wants to know about it. And that point it’s more or less what can I tell them without spoiling literally everything. But aside from all that, great video ! I adore critically, analyzing the things that I love which includes communities. if done correctly, it allows for recognition of the faults as well as the achievements in a way that makes it so that we can recognize and deal with shortcomings, While still moving forward. And I’d say that you did a very good job at that. (also this entire comment was written via voice to text. So that might be where the inconsistencies come from sry)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Voice to text did a pretty good job lol I’m glad to hear people showing backseating restraint, I always try to emplore the “hey, do you want to hear about X thing?” Mentality Also I’m glad you enjoy this video

[@hyperx72]

"Attracting rockets to magnet points" YOU COULD DO *WHAT?!*

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Rockets + magnets = good times 😎

[@himynamewaz7507]

Ty for expressing your thoughts on the community. Im fair new myself, and you hit every point perfecly. Can’t wait to see more of ya

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Glad you enjoyed this video!

[@cewla3348]

23:30 "If you all made this game, it would be terrible" - Hakita, on why community content will never be added (from my memory)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

ok so it seems more set in stone than I initially thought lol

[@shishi6201]

that was a response to whiplash change complaints

[@epicnightmare5600]

​@@DJCerealSauce6455i dont think its still that set in stone since mods and fanmade maps still exist and hakita never discouraged that behaviour

[@mattnsg13]

the fact that ultrakill isn't even finished and is already considered one of the best games of all time by a lot of people makes me shocked, it's just so good at every aspect that it's almost unbelievable

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

That’s WHAT IM SAYING MAAAAAN

[@DorkyDogBoy]

Just like how the game is unfinished, the community is too. Just like the game we are new and we still have some kinks to work out. Hopefully we can work those kinks out before the game blows up and people start to talk about it even more

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Precisely what I’m hoping for! I’m by no means trying to attack the people who make the game less than savory for outsiders, since I know MOST have good intentions, but hopefully this can raise awareness for being better people lol

[@Jozeks]

This video definitely gave me a new perspective on the community, my only knowledge of the community was meeting some people in public discord servers and from albinos tweet and 6 minute video discussing the community, giving off a bad impression of both their humor and manners, but seeing the great things in the community as you highlighted in the video, I overlook the elitism and humor in favor of the cool stuff.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I think ultimately, to ignore the flaws in the community would be allowing yourself to be complacent and not expect more from them, but to overdiscuss it is to allow yourself to feel cynical of everyone. Acknowledge that the bad apples exist, but don't let it taint your experience, especially if you don't have any personal experience with them

[@austincox2687]

Ngl blood and steel could work for the treachery layer, because it is a bit slower than the average ultrakill layer. Which would fit because in Dantes inferno treachery is a frozen lake.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I'll take it, sending an email to Newblood right now 😉

[@theparadoxisbored6622]

yea, I love the game but people telling me how to play the game before I loaded it up left me disappointed in my skill, never P-ranking anything outside of Prelude, etc.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

This right here is why I love seeing people play the game in it's most "pure" form, because you get to see them experience the joy of learning new mechanics, and then eventually learning how to get better and better without other people trying to compare them to others

[@demoknight864]

I think the fact that after watching this video i just kinda wanna play the game with your friendgroup speaks volumes of your points in this video. Doesn’t really matter who it is i’m playing with when it comes to this game, it’s just fun to chat, share strats and help eachother out

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Eventually when we open up our discord, maybe we can make that happen :)

[@demoknight864]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 thank you, you’re too kind :D. Btw your videos are very well made. The quality really shines through

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I appreciate the support lol, imma keep it up as best as I can :)

[@ddduv]

Definitely a video of all time. In all seriousness tho, great essay! I pretty much agree with every point you brought up honestly! As a member of the creative part of the community I can confirm the brainrot part Also 5:14 yo that's me

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

YES, History will look back on me and say "HE WAS IN FACT HERE" lol Also oh shit! You can point at the TV and exclaim to your parents that you were in a youtube video :D

[@ddduv]

@@DJCerealSauce6455LOL YEAH

[@choesta]

@@ddduv make calm version of creeping death

[@ddduv]

@@choesta bruh

[@choesta]

@@ddduv we're all counting on you

[@Acefdiamonds]

We do have issues i'm glad you are talking about them Me personally when i convinced someone to play it i tell the basic coin mechanics but none of the interactions it has its better to have their own OH SH- moment ultrakill is the only game i have that I have over 500 hours in

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

500 hours? Damn I gotta get my shit up lol

[@Acefdiamonds]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 like you said the game has near endless amounts of replay ability

[@smithbabies7886]

Backseating is cool, but only if done right. If I tell my buddy that there are two things weapons shoot, projectiles and hitscan. He probably won't catch on. However, his subconscious will kick in the moment he discovered projectile boosting he knew exactly what he did. In the prologue, he asked if he could shoot the coin. I told him only hitscan can hit the coin, and I told him the coin was a projectile. He punched the coin the moment it clicked in his brain. And when he figured out the railcannon, guess what? He shot a magnet. Then shot the shotgun core (how we learned about nukes lol). Then he finally shot the coin and was fucking hooked. Unfortunately he lost interest 10 days later so I guess I'm stuck with his save taking up space, but this made me think. Which led me to this: Be a _soft_ backseater. Be subtle. Be sweet. Allow people to ULTRAKILL like a true gamer their own way.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

this is a fucking genius way to "backseat people" because honestly, it's not even backseating, it's just giving them core mechanics that they would never reasonably be able to piece together, because of the way the games physics work

[@smithbabies7886]

​@@DJCerealSauce6455I still consider it backseating since you're still telling them about things they wouldn't know otherwise, but it's so subtle they they wouldn't notice. This is because it _seems_ obvious enough to brush off but useful enough to maintain the knowledge of it. I really hope that people at least keep the basic mindset behind this so that secrets aren't ruined, but assistance, knowledge, and passion is still communicated and hopefully welcomed in the future. If enough people just do it, eventually the community will accept it as the norm.

[@smithbabies7886]

My buddy has his own PC now and he's picked up... Simulators and horror. What a strange combination, but that dude transcends everything you may think of him with the exception being rather clueless Anyways, got any good horror games?

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

uhh, I don't play many horror games lol, but I know Iron lung is goode, Signalis is good, "No ones lives under the lighthouse" is good, @@smithbabies7886

[@48Mei]

I remember streaming my first playthrough of the game (I only ever stream for family and friends that live overseas so I can chat + play with them) and there entered 3 Ultrakill fans who made the entire experience… strange. From MaX0r quotes, to making gay jokes, to just straight up calling me braindead for not knowing certain weapon tech etc. the entire stream was me tryna enjoy the game while these 3 backseat viewers were ruining my first experience with what is now my favourite FPS game. Since then, I have had a couple helpful and encouraging people show up in chat and be really nice, but the majority of random veiwers that would show up when I would stream Ultrakill were just very cringe and now I just avoid the community 😓 I love watching new people play the game, and as much as I’d love to share all the amazing tech that the game has, I just advise that whoever is playing the game simply “read everything that you can” because alot of the really cool things you can do in the game can be found in the terminals and even through on screen pop-up tips, letting new players discover the hidden gems the game has, increasing the sheer fun and enjoyment of their first playthrough

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

it sucks that had to be your first experience with the game, but at least you're enjoying it now and you can remove the things that don't serve you :)

[@Abridgelion]

The community is a time share marketing team on Hawaii. Yes, everything's great, sir, picture perfect just as you said, can we please go surf the kiddie waves already?

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

What? Yeah you can do whatever you want here, just be nice ok?

[@ellagage1256]

I think the thing I love the most about Ultrakill is how most unique actions or techniques will be recognized in some way by the Style Meter. Makes DMC's system seem rigid in comparison

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

“Why are you even spawning enemies down here” 💀💀

[@bricktobot]

This is a great video! I joined all this from the song video, and there is some really good content, almost documentary level quality.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I love to see a bunch of people coming back from that video!

[@Fexxis_]

honestly the best experience i’ve ever had with the ultrakill community was when me and @PoleLicker spent a week competing over the dumbest speedrun imaginable

[@gamerhurley]

was it the leviathan by chance

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

What kind of speedrun was it? 👀 Also, @PoleLicker, nice name

[@hyperx72]

Commenting to hear the dumbest speedrun category

[@Fexxis_]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 sorry for taking a month, 4-S in first person P%

[@Fexxis_]

@@hyperx72 4-S First person P%

[@youokboi8556]

This is such an insanely high quality video and was super interesting for me even though I've never played Ultrakill

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Hey man, as long as this was mildly informative, I’ve done my job! :)

[@youokboi8556]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 this is the exact style of videos I wanna make but I gotta find a topic I actually like talking about first

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I encourage and hope for the best in your journey!

[@youokboi8556]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 I mean I got 6 subs from a video where I'm just whispering and sound like I'm held hostage so I'm practically the next Mr Beast

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

@@youokboi8556 people love their ASMR content 💀

[@commenter621]

Really great video! You've earned my subscription.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

ʰᵉˡˡ ʸᵉᵃʰ :)

[@maurovalente4901]

Just looking at the footage I'm learning stuff, you're telling me the pump shotgun's overcharge instakills virtues??

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

yes :), and if you dash RIGHT before you do the overpump you don't take the damage

[@SpelunkyGaming]

5:10 MA LOOK IM ON TV!!!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

SPELUNKYGAMING! LOOK AT YOU GO

[@epickiwimoment]

To this day, I can still not figure out how I beat ultrakill and p-ranked everything before I even knew what projectile boosting meant. I say this not to brag but to describe how everyone plays ultrakill in their own unique way. I still remember me getting mindblown after watching a video of someone casually shoot a railgun off a fucking coin. All those gabriel runs could've been so much easier....

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Dude you fucking BRUTE FORCED your way in, and I respect the hell out of that lol Also, what the fuck do you mean Kidney Failure???

[@murilo_the_lilo9947]

If you did allat without knowing simple tech you are gonna give p3's prime soul a run for his money

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

He's going to walk into the P-3 boss arena and HIS bossfight is going to play@@murilo_the_lilo9947

[@AgentSloth007]

I feel like drg, ultrakill, and ror2 have the best hiveminds at times

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I mean... yeah probably, there's a couple of other games that probably fall in the same vein, but I somehow got assimilated into the hiveminds of all 3 of these games

[@mr.shplorb662]

Arkham games

[@wolfrunner6462]

Did I hear a rock and stone?

[@arcanumcoto]

Your music analysis instantly earned a sub. Hope you get around to Violence's music soon!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

already got a script in the works BB!!!!

[@ussom1377]

dryzalar loves to chill in random ultrakill twitch streams (westaxle too), glad someone noticed them!!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

they be lurkin and durkin

[@padd_u]

Its an interesting experience chasing PB's and then having your friend tell you its worth submitting to the speedrun leaderboards lol Amazing video man and I cant wait to see more :)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Agreed on the top comment, that's why I always just boot up OBS if I plan on playing the game outside of CyberGrind, since who knows if I could stumble upon a strategy to make PB-ing a miscellaneous level speedrun worthy Also thank you fro the kind words!

[@artman40]

Interesting thing about Ultrakill's soundtrack that despite being great, Ultrakill speedrunners seem to hate it. You see a level speedrun and the music is likely turned off or replaced with some other song. Why is this so, I don't know. Speedrunners of games with much worse soundtracks often leave the music intact, even if the said game has a volume slider.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

oh really? I've clearly never paid enough attention to speedrun videos to notice lol

[@tuvergalarga6144]

Mfw people have different opinions and therefore can play with different songs

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I cannot believe people have other opinions 😢

[@artman40]

@@tuvergalarga6144I think you kind of missed the point. I had an observation how Ultrakill speedrunners are far more likely to switch the OST off compared to speedrunners of Pizza Tower, Mario games, Sonic games, games with bad soundtrack etc. And I don't know why it's like that.

[@tuvergalarga6144]

@@artman40 mfw

[@omegazjay]

Watching this video made me realize that I'm still in the kiddie pool in terms of tech usage (that rock mal snipe was the thing that made me realize that)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

and that's ok :) you're trying your best

[@Forklift_Enthusiast12]

I have a weirdly specific gripe with ultrakill mologue chains. Like we get it, you know the words, we all do, it's NOT FUNNY TO RECITE IT EVERY TIME SAYS A VISITOR OR FREE AT LAST RRRGAHHHA

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Yeah… sometimes the chains are funny, but somehow I don’t think we have enough funny moments for people to diversify and not just quote these ones

[@gooblerb]

this is genuinely such an underrated creator what the fuck 😭

[@TheyreBetterDry]

TRUE

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Thank both of you for the kind words, I'm trying to tread lightly here so as to not piss off this community that's given me the support I have, but this might be my 2nd most controversial video idea, maybe after examining more of what makes this community a little less than savory, but regardless

[@GhreatGhost]

i think you hit it right on the nose with the backseaters tbh. i remember before one of the more recent updates, the end of 1-S would take you straight into 1-2, instead of taking you back to the beginning of 1-1 like it does now. back then, the issue with backseaters was AGGREGIOUSLY bad because the MOMENT people would walk into that first room, the chat would be FILLED with "THROW A COIIN IN THE FOUNTAIN THRO THE COIN IN THE FOUTNAIN COIN IN FOUNTAIN" and of course, the streamer, not knowing any better, would do it. sure enough, this was a nice way to get people to see the wackiness of the secret levels in the game, thats all cool and good. but when a streamer would DO that, they would MISS THE ENTIRE LEVEL OF 1-1 WHICH IS NOT ONLY A BEAUTIFUL INTRODUCTION TO THE COOL, UNIQUE ATMOSPHERE OF LIMBO BUT ALSO AN INTRODUCTION TO HOW SKULLS WORKED AND THE NAILGUN. streamers who inadvertently skipped 1-1 missed both how they work and the fact that the nailgun SHREDS mal faces. i cannot tell you how many times watching a person experience the game for the first time would be RUINED by the chat spamming this needless garbage. that and projectile boosting. people who learn proboosting from backseaters then dont learn where to *not* use it and kill themselves constantly with it, creating unnecessary frustration in the later levels. anyway, good video. i'm making a video myself about the atmosphere in ultrakills levels and i think im going to reference your video on music a bit, if you are okay with that. youll be properly credited and everything. you had inspired me to say a few things about the ferryman and the levels in wrath. in any case, i look forward to the next one.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

hey man, I want to encourage people to make more content on this game, and if you need to reference my video, by all means go for it! Also that backseating nonsense sounds abysmal...

[@LiteBosmark]

Wait 1-S skipped 1-1? I thought it took you back

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

@@LiteBosmarkI guess that’s how it used to be, but I understand why none of the secret levels do that because that just doesn’t make any sense lol

[@GhreatGhost]

@@LiteBosmark it used to, some patch before act 2 released changed this so it is no longer an issue, but it was a HUGE problem before. you know the backseating is bad that the devs have to CHANGE something in their game to combat it

[@GhreatGhost]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 depends on where the entrance to the secret level. i think 0-S takes you to 0-3 but 1-S takes you back to 1-1 for instance

[@feroxino1051]

Both sides of playin are equally good to me, I am an elitist fan of switching weapons (said in the most extreme sarcasm) personally, I fucking love learning and failing a rocket ride and recently learnt how to pboost “consistently” but I do enjoy seeing people genuinely interested in challenging themselves with slab revolver. What I dislike is spitemaxxing or just plain trashing the game (if you know you know) because of using just the revolver. Hopefully act 3 can reconcile us all.

[@pebbles608]

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[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I have faith, but I'm also a little concerned of how people will treat the newbies who come into the game once it's a fully released game Also spitemaxxing? never heard of that term lol

[@Weppi4]

Have you tried not seething at other peoples way of playing? And don't give me the lazy excuse "waahh the first time player has a boring playstyle I need to teach them how to play the game properly".

[@feroxino1051]

@@Weppi4 honestly just seething over the fact I had respect for the streamer but lost it partially because he voluntarily played in that way saying it was gonna be that, when people just suggested coins to kill streetcleaners… just that. I simply said “you can coin the cleaners to get by a lil easier bino” He “spitemaxxd” people like me who just suggested him help with a few things

[@Happy_Sailor639]

Ultrakill community reminds me of some other community. Atleast, I didn't found out of ultrakill existence by porn, and, oh boy, am I glad I never saw that

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I genuinely think it's astounding that people are finding this game through porn, wtf

[@isotetra1912]

​@@DJCerealSauce6455 legit surprised you never even mentioned how horny the uk community is

[@DevNode27]

hihi, just wanted to clarify that Behead's pronouns are she/her they/them. Cool video, thanks for keeping the convo going, hope it'll make a difference ^^ Dryzalar tends to pop up in Ultrakill stream vods a lot, and for my stream-vod-binging ass it's always nice to occasionally look in the corner and see a name I recognize. He's also the author of one of the 20 community cyber grind patterns that were added in the last major update!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Whoops 😬 pardon me lol, I’ll keep that in mind if I reference them again :))

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Also Dryzalar the goat for that!

[@starlighteva]

10:30 as someone who spent WAY too much time to speedrun leviathan because of a stupid competition, seeing a 11 sec makes me feel extreme pain and happiness at the same time Amazing video btw, you raised great points

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Thank you kindly! That 11s WR really scrambled my brain 😵‍💫

[@mixednarwhal]

I thought to myself about 8 times this video "This is good so I’ll save it to watch later" but I just couldn’t pull myself away from it, because once one part ends the next part keeps it’s grasp on you and won’t let it not be entertaining and have any boring parts that let you step away from it.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I consider this mostly a good thing, I just hope people don't look at that and think I'm catering to the Gen-Z-ers (aka myself) lol

[@maliketh420]

Someone made a whole fanmade soundtrack for p-3 about judas prime when the first layer of act 3 just released. It's crazy how talented the community is, sadly it does get tainted by the toxicity of some of it's playerbase but with how based Hakita is on the community and it's backseating. I think the community will hopefully mature as more people talk about the bad side. Though like how hakita commented on dumpster man's video, there will always be something bad and it'll likely increase with the popularity of the game. I just hope more people focus on the good side because I think the good really does outshine the bad with how passionate they are. I do think the overused jokes are kinda annoying though but that's just someones humor and at the end of the day is something I can scoff at for a second and then forget in another.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Ultrakill will follow in the path of other smaller indie games, mostly good, ocassionaly VERY bad for a small portion of the player base, then the game grows and while the number of toxic members may jump up by like 5-10%, the amount of positive members will jump 20%+

[@maliketh420]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 this is completely unrelated but someone sang my way in a minos prime voice, and god damn is it good. This community is truly amazing

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

God bless america for this creation@@maliketh420

[@jopalica]

great video happy to find this channel

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Great comment, happy to find you, and thank you for the support :)

[@roboticdryzalar]

As someone who came into this community very closed off socially and thinking to myself "well I don't think I'm *that* good at this game or anything but I'm enjoying it more than most other games I've ever played, and I want to do more with it so I guess I'll give a shot at speedrunning it" It's been absolutely crazy to see how this game and its community has gotten bigger over the past three years I've been playing it and to see my own growth as a person over those years. The community isn't perfect, hardly anything is but I can at least say this game and more importantly it's community have been great FOR ME personally. whether it's a VC with other speedrunning talking about god knows what, interacting with the occasional streamer, or helping new people get into speedrunning. It's been great, and I can't imagine that changing.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

glad to see the community treating you well, lest they end up getting their speedrun denied 😉

[@TipmaB]

Marksman slab is so satisfying to use idc if it's worse

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I respect that you find it fun, even if I may not fuck with it myself

[@nitroplayz2676]

this guy MIGHT be soundsmith

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

you would be mistaken good sir

[@pigpro98]

Ultrakill was made mostly by one person. The soundtrack and most other things. Most of the models and stuff where made by others.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Shouts out everyone mentioned in the credits museum

[@Smthn_Wicked]

Remember to drink calcium

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I really ought to get some milk right now

[@Norsq_]

you talk really good! i enjoy just stopping everything i'm doing to watch your videos the community is pretty different, i haven't really met anyone that had been rude to me and understood that i'm a beginner and i don't usually play games like ultrakill

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Years of speech will do that to ya 😅 but thank you for the kind words I'm glad to hear that the community has been kind to you, especially given that some notable faces seem to be stepping away from it a bit

[@Pickletron275]

I started the game knowing all about slam storage, railcoining, projectile boosting, and all that silly tech, and I genuinely wish I had found that out on my own. Granted, I’m in 6-2 right now, but I feel like the journey there could have been way more fun, including taking a break from the game because for some reason I thought you had to p-rank act one to get to act 2? I just think that experiencing the game raw is a much better feeling than learning through KZbin tutorials, or comments and stuff.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Exactly, finding stuff out on your own makes this game 1000x more exciting

[@stack9312]

I have no clue if I just completely missed it but where can I find Blood and Steel? can't seem to find it posted or linked anywhere so just curious. Great vid btw, keep it up doc!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I genuinely forgot to overtly tell people where to find it, DJ Cereal Sauce on most major streaming platforms as well as KZbin, and there’s a Spotify link in the description! Also thank you for the love lol

[@ducklingrex3796]

I 100% agree that backseating is a major problem in the Ultrakill community. I remember this one time I was watching a streamer get the rocket launcher and immediately someone said "You can ride the rockets btw." It's super annoying to watch someone get told what to do and how to do it instead of watching their reaction when they either accidentally do it or figure it out via the terminal tips and such. It also sucks when you are trying to have fun with a game, only to be told you are "playing it wrong" because you aren't shotgun parrying or coin punching. (Plus, if you play on standard difficulty or lower, I am so sorry that parts of the ULTRAKILL community will attack you for that. If you have fun on standard, play on standard.)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Literally man, the new weapons in this recent patch came out, and I had so many lightbulb moments once i understood its gimmick, and I’m still figuring out stuff as we speak, and it sucks to have that joy ripped from others bc certain people don’t know how to keep their dang mouths shut

[@aCreativeNamee]

Holy, that music sounds like the music from 6-1 but still different. Holy f*ck

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Let’s go!

[@PersonstuckinMichigan]

I watched your ultrakill ost vid but damn, nice work.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Ayyy you’re back! Glad to see you’re happy with this one as well

[@aslbekkhamidov]

I think I was lucky enough to not get backseated, cause I discovered some tech like projectile boost or weapon switch by myself. And I went for other content after finishing the 2 layers. So learning about new shit made me struck in awe. I learned about all useful tech after own research. And now the game is even more fun to play.(By the way, excuse my me for my poor English. I'm writing this shit at 2:00 AM and English is my second language)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Lol I got exactly what point you were making, and I'm glad to see you've played this game mostly hands free (hands from other people that is)

[@senda6765]

The way you describe the ultrakill fanbase is vaguely similar to the fighting game community. Both genres have their feet in what I'd consider high skill cap and expression type of gameplay. Where as ultrakill is relatively new, the fighting game community has been around for quite a while and have had a chance to mature* (I say that with a bit of salt, and if you're part of the community you'd know why). Most fighting game enthusiast understand that, for the most part, people who join aren't trying to do the most optimal combo strings, break through a block string, or slam their head against a would-be-wall of an opponent rated high in their area. They want to have fun playing whatever character that calls to them and do it stylishly. The main issue with the ultrakill community, from what I understand in your video, is that we just need to chill. The people who want to get better, who want to learn how to chain coin for 60 damage on minos, who want to one shot maurices and mindflayers, they'll come on their own. We don't need to go up to people just walking through 2-3 for the first time and explain a well timed projectile boost will - nah. Let them have fun. When they ask questions, seek answers, that's when you can help whether by outright telling them or just a gentle nudge. Till then, just watch them experience what you did when you first picked up the game, because didn't you enjoy it your first time?

[@senda6765]

Also, someone who actually posts their references in their description is a true homie. Another banger video, well done.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

PRECISELY, Obviously there are a few more issues that people in the comments have highlighted, but my experience with Ultrakills less than great players is that they don't give players enough time to learn these things. I love teaching people new tech about the game, but I want them to voice some concerns that would cause me to bring it up. I might bring up a few core mechanics that I think they should know that the game doesn't really overtly tell them (projectile boosting seems to be the big one), but I also understand that those people will more than likely accidentally figure it out, then ask me wtf they just did, and then I can explain to them what they need to know. I think the backseating is the least offensive thing this community does, considering it is almost always with good intentions, but it's so prevalent that it also probably pushes the most amount of people away

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I try my best :) I hope that this video gets enough love, to then have those people flock to the links in the description to give THEM love And thank you for the kind words@@senda6765

[@wormsley]

heyo, this video is a really good explanation on the community as it is right now, both good and bad. as someone who has somehow went from the inner circle of the community (mainly speedrunning) to then see the more vocal gatekeep-y backseaters i find that the better you get at the game. usually the more chill and accepting you are, i really wish the bad actors would adopt the super supportive attitude the more prolific members of the community do. thanks to the extremely helpful folks in the speedrunning scene as well as my very lucky circumstance of finding my way in the best parts of the community first, im glad that i could become a part of it too, and meeting the people i saw that made me want to start getting better and sharing a space with all those awesome people is a unique and wonderful experience ive sadly never had with other communities. i hope this game gets the recognition it deserves and more people who mightve been turned off by the weird and frankly, way over-escalated drama and controversy that has permeated into the game’s reputation can maybe find a way to get to enjoy the game that we all love so much. great video :)

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

1: Thank you for the kind words :) 2: I hadn't even thought about the fact that it's a lot of the dunning krueger type people who are backseat-y and kind of annoying. In my experience, it's the most experience ultrakill players that are the ones dicking around the most and having the most fun, but I hadn't even thought to connect those 2 things. Great analysis!

[@wormsley]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 thanks! glad i could have some possibly helpful insight as someone with a kinda unique experience with the ultrakill community :)

[@smallkloon]

Love the ultrakill mapmaking community

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Bro, the disco map? FIRE

[@smallkloon]

@@DJCerealSauce6455qodax really is great, genuinely inspiring encounter design

[@tripodman322]

Game so good it turns people bad, sad irony Yea fuck it, time to make giant war girraffes and flatten the earth!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

HELL yeah! That’s the spirit

[@tripodman322]

LETSS FUCKING GOOOOO TIME TO MAKE EVEN HELL ITSELF TAKE NOTES@@DJCerealSauce6455

[@epicnightmare5600]

I think or actually i know why backseating happens so often in uk is because theres just too much batshit crazy mechanics that the basic player wont find until someone tells them hell i never wouldve figured out that you can proj boost if it werent for max0r or even chargeback, ultraricoshot theres just so much things that you cant find because its so uncommon in other games that you can interact with the game and its core mechanics with the weapons and also the thing about forcing people to play the "intended way" is probably because of mayo that man literally shattered the community so easily (also alt marksman and corkscrew are the bane of "pro players" in ultrakill its hilarious to use it just to spite them"

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I deadass read your first part of the comment and was like “is backseating a huge problem in the United Kingdom?” 💀💀💀💀

[@c0cknballt0rture10]

This game is 50% bug and god be damned i love a good insect colection

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Hold on wait, this comment goes hard as fuck

[@c0cknballt0rture10]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 thanks :DD

[@EMan-xj5cz]

5:16 BLOODSHOT VISOR SPOTTED!!!!!!

[@rokaq5163]

21:38 KNUCKLEBLASTER PARRY ATTEMPT SPOTTED So you (foolishly) thought nobody would notice, aye? Tough luck, Corn Flaker. I will now proceed to be judgemental about your binds and/or preferred keyboard layout. Now that that's all sorted out, good vid. Next on the binge, gotta say I'm digging your Ultrakill content. I might take a gander at other stuff you made. Have a good day.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Y’know, I was gonna say that I think I was just trying to get a lot of damage out, but you put so much effort into noticing my foolish blunder, so we’ll let this one slide Glad to hear you enjoy the content lmao

[@rokaq5163]

​​@@DJCerealSauce6455Damn, you're right, I mistyped the timestamp. I corrected it accordingly for the world to see. *If only you had forethought what consequences your witty reply would befall upon you, maybe your blunder would have been swept under the metaphorical rug, yet now you may forego the release of oblivion and embrace the shattering advent of the verbal bludgeoning to come.* Brought to you by Thesaurus.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

@@rokaq5163 oh shit, I did in fact make a misplay

[@banjomanperson]

actually just vibing to blood and steel right now, i love it

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

[@banjomanperson]

@@DJCerealSauce6455your track fucking rocks my guy

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

god bless you spider man@@banjomanperson

[@SyedLabib]

Good video and i agree with it, unrelated note YOU CAN CHARGEBACK THE LIGHTNING?!?!?!?

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

lol yes, best way to test this is to give yourself a bunch of marksman pistols using cheats and spam coins during his bossfight

[@JustAFurrylol]

The second i saw that Game i was in love, i pirated ir first cuz Mony :( I later bought it and now have p-ranked every level

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

as long as your admit to buying it later, mad respect

[@simbatryhard]

Hi, I just wanted to give my opinion as someone who is mostly known as an Ultrakill content creator. I'm a "no-damage" player, meaning I mostly focus my gameplay in completing games without receiving damage. I have completed every single level except for P-2 without receiving damage, and most of them I have also completed no-damage and only using melee or only using the base pistol (Mayo%). This may paint an incorrect picture of me, as an extremely toxic player who is always competitive, but this is actually far from the case. In my free time I mostly just enjoy a variety of games, just completing them to have the experience and leaving it like that. Mostly indie games but also classics or sometimes AAA games I'm interested about. For this reason, because I am in love with videogames in general and not just Ultrakill, I have seen a problem in this community that is for me the worst one, and no one talks about, and that is how over-protective the community is of the game. Ultrakill is a great game, but it is not perfect nor is it the only good way to design a game. Absolutely any critique about the game comes with a massive hate from part of the community. For example, Under the Mayo made a video about it. I don't agree with all of the points in the video but it does show some things that can be seen as a problem in Ultrakill's design, and even to this day he is ridiculed by the community, and people say really, REALLY mean things to him. But what most drives me mad about Ultrakill's community is how they compare it to other games (Yes, mostly DOOM Eternal) and always end up saying something like "DOOM bad ULTRAKILL good" when they are just different games. Ultrakill is all about style and the cool factor, which is easily visible and therefore is very easy to praise, but that is not all that defines a game, and this kind of comparison just show an incredible lack of understanding of videogame design. Cool is not always better, and for example DOOM Eternal which is the game it is most compared with does not have that much style, but that is not the point, it instead focuses on engagement, and is a game where you constantly feel at the edge, which in my opinion is something that ULTRAKILL can't achieve precisely because you are so cool and op that nothing really supposes a threat to you. Not every game needs to be ULTRAKILL to be a great game. With that said, no-damage is very cool and under apreciated part of the community if you don't mention us in your next video we are going to (just kidding do what you please).

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

1: The no-hit thing is so fucking impressive I can't even begin to put it into words, I dont personally see that as you being "extremely toxic and competitive" and I honestly don't even think a lot of people would say that, they would look at your gameplay and go "what the fuck is this madman doing" 2: That is another huge part of the community's flaws, that I only noticed as I was nearing the end of the production of this video and trying to find hyperspecific examples to prove my point, and in retrospect, I think THIS might be the most damaging thing the community does, and might even be more prevalent than backseating, so I'm hoping more content creators will shed light on this issue because really, how many of those people don't know any better? It's hard to say 3: If I can find a way to get no-damage runs in as a talking point in a video, I'll be sure to mention you. I actually made a very small mention to it in my "ULTRAKILL has the BEST Soundtrack I've EVER heard" video script where I talked about learning more about Ultrakill through watching the worlds first hitless P-rank of P2 on Violent Thank you for this very well written comment :)

[@Orvixran7692]

Completely unrelated to the video (haven't finished watching it yet) but i saw (around 1:18) you also get the channel "Lucid Rythms" recommended to you in your feed! It's soo good :P Anyways... I'll keep watching now

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

It's been a minute since I've seen one of their videos, but they're actually deceptively good at helping me slow down from a hectic work day lol

[@Voob54]

act 3 spoilers at 22:19

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

shhhh 🤫

[@abylaiashken2611]

The psychology behind backseating is to keep the pace going (in other games, not Ultrakill), but also cause most streamers will play Ultrakill once. I get it, discovering at your pace is fun, but we really want others to experience same joy learning of new tech or secret, they add a lot to the experience, and imo the real charm that differentiates Ultrakill from many games. Those things are impossible to find on your own on 1st playthrough and we want streamers to finish Ultrakill with as much impact and understanding why it's great as possible. I really want people to ride on demons as a surfing board in Devil May Cry 3, so I am rather guilty 😂. I think better solution is not to outright stop backseating but establish clear rules of communication or a social contract: if streamer doesn't want backseating, make it clear by pinning the rules. Rest of people in chat generally will comply. A smart method to avoid being spoiled is say when chat recognizes a spoiler and signal it to a streamer, most likely by spamming emoji. 1 streamer did that and that way she avoided them, pretty smart I would say.

[@abylaiashken2611]

In some cases backseating is acceptable, so a streamer can point out what they don't mind being spoiled on. Again, free ride in DMC3 and pole play in mission 3, those are fun little mechanics which are easy to miss. But if a streamer manages to perform them since it's not hard like Royal Guard or Jump Canceling it should be okay and you got to see their reaction to those mechanics.

[@petrikhorr]

just don't backseat if they don't allow it. simple as that

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

agree here, just don't do it, if you think you might "spoil" something or reveal some information, either don't do it, or ask before doing it

[@Marzuku]

Yooo that's my track art in the thumbnail

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

YOU CAME! We’ve been waiting for you!!

[@fadez420]

wait I didn't know magnets attracted rockets, THATS FUCKING AWESOME!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

yeah! But it has to be attached to an enemy and also that magnet can only take 3 rockets

[@gibusgaming0903]

9:25 that leviathan kill shattered my soul, the first time i tried it he killed me 69 times

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

That leviathan kill also shattered me because for one of the first times in Ultrakill speed run history I couldn’t for the life of me tell you what that mf did

[@Prosto-Ban]

I think ultrakill has a community like tf2 but just a lot smaller

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Y’know what, this is a pretty accurate comparison actually

[@SeiunD2]

I’m a speedrunner of a different game (destiny 2) and I gotta say the ultrakill speedrunning community was very awesome and nice when I went and asked some of them about where to get started with ulttakill runs that side of the community seems awesome, v different polarity the game I come from everything seems so accessible and cool like it’s awesome

[@SeiunD2]

Also nice to hear about another community than my own sick video sir

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

1: thank you for the kind words 2: I don't know what D2 speedruns look like, but as a person who doesn't play the game, I'm mildly curious 3: I'm glad the speedunning community has been kind to you so far. The people I've talked to are cool as fuck

[@SeiunD2]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 d2 speedruns are very unique since they're largely multiplayer, very fun very fun, its hard to describe what they're like to someone who doesn't play... the game has more of an emphasis on stratfinding than mechanical execution because most things are easy to do mechanically. the only exceptions to that are solo activities, where sometimes its really mechanically impressive :) thanks for the good video AND good reply

[@Orvixran7692]

Finished watching the video... Firstly: YOOOO! MY COMMENT APPEARED!!!!! (2:56) Secondly: i like this video a lot, it highlights all the main issues the community has in a very comprehensive way and it also shows all the good stuff as well, the descriptions of interactions are spot on, and i felt called out when you mentioned giving support to very small creators, For example: I stumbled with a small channel called "Phaetex" which is run by a young man who was doing a playthrough of the game, now, being a small channel it has a BIG benefit, which is that (like with this one) your comments will almost definitely be read, and possibly be reacted to... or even showcased! (LOL) so what i would do is go and show support and gratitude for the videos and give some COMPREHENSIVE advice and feedback, in the end i believe this young man's first time experience with the game may have been enriched... anyways i don't even remember why i went off onto this tangent but the point is that this video is very valuable and appreciated, and i wish you a good weekend

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

lol glad to see you coming back, 125 FOV supremacy! Also I think I've seen Phaetex around, so I'll probably tune in and see what they've got going on right now! I'm glad you left this long ass message, it made me smile to see the community behaving the way it is right now, and I hope you have a good weekend as well!

[@EchoIrl]

8:27 as a speedrunner i am very offended. so anyway did you know my 1-4 recor-

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

WHAT IS YOUR 1-4 RECORD? HEATHEN

[@zelancholy]

Unrelated mostly, but the song you gave us snippets of gives me a weird damage plan vibe. Specifically the song "Pride"

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Damage Plan? never heard of it. Can you explain it to me in a 30 minute youtube video? But I'm sure that's probably a good thing :O

[@zelancholy]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 unironically, might need a 30 minute video to describe how that band came to be... It was a good thing, btw.

[@Ultrakill-enjoyer0509]

Ultrakill is just a spicy war crime simulator

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I do love me some spicy war

[@clockwork_mind]

I'd like to mention a problem that you didn’t, which I think is similar to the backseating problem. It's most obvious through KZbin comments and stream chats, which is my main form of interaction with the Community. *An absurdly massive portion of the community is seemingly incapable of original thought.* That is a really harsh way to phrase it, but it's really accurate to my frustration. There is not a single playthrough on this site that isn’t flooded with identical comments about lore speculation (I swear to god, there is not a single person in this community who hasn't heard "ooh did you know the lore implies that V1 was specifically built to kill earthmover?"), or random unsolicited tech, or endlessly recycled jokes. I swear I have yet to see a playthrough that doesn't have several people in the chat or comments just quoting a joke from a Max0r video as though they thought of it, as though everyone else hasn't already seen it. A heavy portion of the community rewards stale memes and rote repetition of jokes. It really overshadows the genuinely new and creative things made by genuinely talented people. My speculation is that ultrakill players all want to be special and smart and knowledgable, and they think they’ve found a way to be so through Ultrakill. Hence the absolute plague of backseating and unsolicited techsplanations, or unsolicited dumping about lore speculation (including spoilers). They all want to be seen as the smart one who knows everything about the game. They also want to be seen as funny, so they repeat the same stale jokes that people have liked before. Recitiation doesn't make you smart or funny, and doing it without understanding context makes you look both dumb and unfunny.

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

It’s wild to think that I actually fall into this category but by complete accident. If someone tells me a funny joke I will incidentally end up transfiguring that joke multiple times and in multiple different ways to keep the spirit of the original joke intact, but making it fresh in its own way. Lore speculations are one of the biggest driving forces of the music related videos that I make, but I’ve been able to take a unique approach to the lore by FEELING it rather than strictly reading it from others, but I’m the exception here, so I see where the issues like that arise here. I’ve also never seen that Max0r video because I’m afraid to uncover how many of the jokes I’ve heard about ultrakill are regurgitated from that

[@clockwork_mind]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 probably a good number, and I will say that I think most of them are funnier in the original context

[@christian1862]

Btw, remember that p2 p rank? It’s gone now. My friend accidentally deleted it. It’s ok tho, because within 50 minutes of gameplay, I already P ranked P 1 lol

[@christian1862]

But I’m too busy playing risk of rain returns to finish it sooo eh

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

How? And why? and what?

[@christian1862]

My friend loves ultrakill, and he wanted to restart, so he went to delete his, but accidentally clicked mine. But it means I get to play ultrakill again.

[@TheMediocritea]

i am DEFINITELY responsible for contributing to the 'Ultrakill is the best' stuff being the "Ultrakill Mastered" guy, but damn it all comes from love. That's why I feel DRG and UK's communities are so interlinked in my opinion. Super passionate, and super creative, and very vocal lol. There's so much stuff and freedom in this game and damn, backseating, or making an entire series meatriding the game feel almost unavoidable, even when it is kinda cringe. Hopefully its something that stops soon, more streamers = more attention to the game! This video made me more conscious about this community's flaws but also reinforced my love for the community, so thanks for that :D anyways, amazing video! and sick music too!

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

lol thank you, as a person who knows a guy who’s put in over 1000 hours on DRG, I can say that we both nerd out heavily over our respective games, and I’m glad that this at least shed some light on some lesser known things to you I would have talked more about other flaws of the community so people don’t think I’m meatriding this game, but I also don’t have much experience in those areas so I wouldn’t have had a whole lot to say

[@TheMediocritea]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 1000 hours is insane, thats some true dedication and passion man. Yeah, this video was actually surprisingly eye-openning! Continue the good work man :D

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

I'll try my best, and when things get tough I'll think to myself "do it for Critea"@@TheMediocritea

[@Specy.y]

i love your ULTRAKILL has the best soundtrack video W milK

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

thank you :), I'm glad to see people are coming back from that video

[@Specy.y]

@@DJCerealSauce6455 no problem buddy

[@KustProductions]

I thought this was soundsmith for a sec

[@DJCerealSauce6455]

Not agaaaaaiin