Umineko Chiru (EP8): Trick Ending

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Күн бұрын

From the English translated version of Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru, with the UmiTweak patch applied (PS3 sprites, voice acting, etc.) The Trick Ending, with Ange, Amakusa, Kawabata and a surprise guest. ""❮Good❯!"" So ends the tale of Umineko: When They Cry... possibly. :}
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@IWasCaptainPanda
@IWasCaptainPanda 3 жыл бұрын
Umineko doesn't have a Good End and a Bad End. It has a Good End and a End.
@SynthesiaVN
@SynthesiaVN 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@GrapeCheckerBoard
@GrapeCheckerBoard Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it has no Golden End.
@paradox5384
@paradox5384 11 ай бұрын
Actually it's a End and Not That Bad End
@yanek_v
@yanek_v Ай бұрын
​@@GrapeCheckerBoard that would destroy the whole point of umineko. finding the truth
@eryseayliid1535
@eryseayliid1535 9 жыл бұрын
Everyone is arguing about which ending is better and Erika and all that, and I'm still sitting here after the 48(!!!) minutes of trauma of my life, when the VN told me to decide whether I want to believe in miracles/optimism and live a happy(happier?) life = pick magic, or be suspicious of everything/have pessimism, live in fear, but possibly not get emotionally fucked over by other people = pick trick. To be able to pick between two endings, in my opinion, were just to bring attention to what the story really wanted to tell us all. This in itself is more important than the endings themselves are. Btw, go Erika go!
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 4 жыл бұрын
Deep down picking the pink colored magic ending is taking away the most awesome Ange of all. This ending is epic
@twiinapocalyp2e2
@twiinapocalyp2e2 5 жыл бұрын
its a very sad ending if you draw the parallells to the Erika "are you cheating on me" scene, where the person being cornered has no way to argue back at all. erika isn't someone who should be proud of you...
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 5 жыл бұрын
But Ange was right. They were going to kill her and her aunt and make it look like they killed each other.
@mibukdesjarlais534
@mibukdesjarlais534 4 жыл бұрын
But Ange was in the right in this situation. They were actually going to ambush her and kill her. So in the end she won and is now living her best life in the future with Erika by her side. 😊
@Auditor1337
@Auditor1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@juanlaise1059 ange has no proof that the captain was on it
@bobsnob9246
@bobsnob9246 3 жыл бұрын
@@juanlaise1059 that was the original plan but amakusa didn't do it in the end. That was what I remember at least
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobsnob9246 Yes he did it in that scenario. The only reason he didn't do it in the final one is because Ange left most of the company to Okonogi to keep him happy.
@Malrastfar
@Malrastfar 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my bro read Umineko simultaneously. I'm more of a delicate, introvertic, emphatic person with soft heart that believes that everyone should have a chance and not be condemned. My bro is more straight-thinking, easy to judge, less empatic, prefering logic than emotion. I was literally traumatized, when at the end, I was the one that chosen Trick Ending, and he chosen Magic Ending. I regret this to this day, but its a funny thing, that sometimes people who acts one way, when its time to chose, pick something completely different
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 2 жыл бұрын
thats interesting. what made you pick trick ending?
@Malrastfar
@Malrastfar 2 жыл бұрын
@@weeecalango2761 Probably I thought that is good to face the truth, instead of living in fantasy :(
@StreamMaxim357
@StreamMaxim357 8 ай бұрын
​@@Malrastfarif we take into account that there can be "magic" in this world beyond the technology used by Fezarin and Furude Rika)) then ... there is relative magic there
@DirkingtonStrider
@DirkingtonStrider 11 жыл бұрын
No one can open a closed cat box besides the person who locked it. If the person holding the key doesn't show us it's contents then all we can do is assume. No matter how close our assumptions are to the truth we will never have the authority to say that is what is inside.
@cocoearmuffs6207
@cocoearmuffs6207 4 жыл бұрын
*swallows the key* Ggs
@theczman007
@theczman007 4 жыл бұрын
DirkingtonStrider Wrong. It can be smashed open with a hammer, pried open with a crowbar, or cut in half by a saw.
@meeramalhotra33
@meeramalhotra33 4 жыл бұрын
@@theczman007 Yeah, that's not "opening" the box, that's destroying it along with the cat itself - like what Ange does here
@Random1208
@Random1208 11 жыл бұрын
It isn't paranoia when you have enough money to be chased by death squads.
@31Moth13
@31Moth13 5 жыл бұрын
​@masakasama No if she hadn't done this she would have been killed. At the end of episode 4 it's stated in the credits that Ange died in 1998. Once you find out about Amakusa's secret plans in Episode 6 tea party you can infer that Ange getting turned into a pile of meat in Episode 4 is an illusion being cast over her actual death at the hands of Amakusa.
@gyalpoirgyud4759
@gyalpoirgyud4759 4 жыл бұрын
@@31Moth13 Or you can read it as Ange "dying" in 1998 by being replaced with Yukari, the way that Battler "died" in 1986.
@meeramalhotra33
@meeramalhotra33 4 жыл бұрын
@@31Moth13 Like the other person said, she wouldn't be in this situation in the first place, if she had trusted Okonogi like she had in the magic ending
@31Moth13
@31Moth13 4 жыл бұрын
@@meeramalhotra33 "Just give me what I want and I won't have you shot" What a trustworthy guy.
@meeramalhotra33
@meeramalhotra33 4 жыл бұрын
@@31Moth13 Wtf? She didn't hand over everything to Okonogi in the magic ending because he asked her. She wasn't interested in the wealth anyway so she was thinking of donating and selling everything. This isn't obviously a question of "doing what you want with your property"; if you're the owner of a business conglomerate, you're responsible for so many people's jobs, stocks and a huge chunk of the country's economy; donating EVERYTHING is a very cruel thing to do when there have been people who have been working for you all your life and their livelihood depends on your company. And for Ange who had no interest whatsoever in running the business, giving the rights to Okonogi and trusting him was the best option.
@kaiserkase3621
@kaiserkase3621 9 жыл бұрын
**
@nemodog6977
@nemodog6977 8 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Käse Scary Kyubey...
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 5 жыл бұрын
"Let the hate flow trough you";)
@BakedBanana
@BakedBanana 4 жыл бұрын
oh? Your profile picture.
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 3 жыл бұрын
I like your pfp ♡
@jTiKey
@jTiKey 10 жыл бұрын
ERIKA IS THE QUEEN
@animaker9
@animaker9 3 жыл бұрын
Keep your happy, tear-jerking magic ending. I'll ride Ange's boat of truth to the horizon
@Auditor1337
@Auditor1337 3 жыл бұрын
I can see Amakusa being involved in some sort of conspirancy, but ange has no proof that the captain was on it that was pure paranoia.
@coolpotato7305
@coolpotato7305 3 жыл бұрын
It's not as much paranoia as it is pure, extreme pragmatism. There's a possibility that he might turn on her, and killing him eliminates that possibility, thus it is the right decision. (Not saying that it is right, just that for someone who values the truth and nothing else, this is the right decision.)
@AR-cf9di
@AR-cf9di 3 жыл бұрын
Eva and Kyrie would be proud
@e21big
@e21big 10 жыл бұрын
Did you count how many worlds that this tales has been based upon? If discounting all of the world that is proven to be delusional - I counted that there are at least 4 worlds that being played here. 1. Human world where Ange did not jump off the building - she sold all of the Ushiromiya assets to Okonogi, lived as novel writer, and finally met with her brother and Ikuko after many decades passed. 2. Human world where she jumped off the building - she was saved by the net, travelled with Amakusa, met with Ikuko right away but never found her brother, shoot Amakusa and disappear. 3. Meta world - her inner world or spiritual world where her decisions in life took place. 4. Game board world - a world represent the Ushiromiya murder story in glass box that has been washed ashore. Do do you see this reasoning has taken every one?
@lptc5
@lptc5 9 жыл бұрын
There's also a world where she dies when she jumps off the building, it happens after she finds out the Single truth. Of course since she's dead we never know what happened after that
@e21big
@e21big 9 жыл бұрын
***** well, she can't "live" and "die" at the same time - in the end, she lived so any world where she die must be her delusional that's why I counted it out. Put it another way, it may be a meta world where her decision is "disconnect" to the main world where she lived (aka non-canon). However in either way, it's something that only happened in her head and no one else can see it anyway so "delusion" is not too far from the truth
@lptc5
@lptc5 9 жыл бұрын
e21big Well, you could look at it that way or you could think that there is more than one different world in Umineko. If you go back and watch the credits for Umineko Episode 1 you will see written clearly that EVERYONE in that world died, including Eva, which means that the first Episode takes place in a different world from Ange's, because as we know, in Ange's world, Eva survived the murders. So there are many different worlds, the one where the "Happy Ending" happens just happens to be the one that's looked at the most.
@e21big
@e21big 9 жыл бұрын
***** no it does not - because that world is just a story, it did not really happen any where but inside Yasu's head who wrote it and Ange's who read it. Thus, from a real world perspective, everything happen in EP1 or any other world of a game board is just Ange's reading novel (and perhaps arguing to herself in form of Red-Blue truth battle).
@Turksemployee
@Turksemployee 8 жыл бұрын
e21big I don't know about that. At the end of legend of the golden witch it says that this story was written by ushiromiya maria with a piece of her jaw in a bottle message. Handwriting analysis shows that it matched her handwriting. I consider it highly suspect that anyone could write this tale with their jaw missing unless it was forged by someone VERY close to Maria such as a person she would see every day... I wonder who that could be...
@AR-cf9di
@AR-cf9di 3 жыл бұрын
People need to keep in mind that the theory of cat box proposed by schrodinger is also to determine the probability of certain superposition of particle/wave. Meaning, even though we don’t know what’s inside the cat box until we open it, we can calculate the probability at which event is likely to occur. Ange, seeing the circumstance and the golf bag, has successfully calculated the probability of the event in the cat box.
@coltonmarples4269
@coltonmarples4269 4 жыл бұрын
The best ending for those who think magic is just a child's fantasy.
@francisxavier8374
@francisxavier8374 5 жыл бұрын
it's been years and this shit still gives me chills
@SasukeTurkey
@SasukeTurkey 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% pro magic ending, but I still love this as a what if and Ange was really badass.
@meeramalhotra33
@meeramalhotra33 5 жыл бұрын
I just decided I like this ending better because NOBODY JUMPS FROM A BOAT AND DROWNS THEMSELVES T.T
@alexcabrera2932
@alexcabrera2932 4 жыл бұрын
I assumed that she used the weight of the gold bar to drown herself
@Dansenpai8
@Dansenpai8 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexcabrera2932 she did it was confirmed in the manga
@Klemeron
@Klemeron 3 жыл бұрын
As conclusive and emotional as the Magic Ending is, the Trick Ending is at once tragic and badass, transforming Ange into a truly fearsome character with interesting stories to be imagined. I pick *it* any day of the week.
@sonataaeterna
@sonataaeterna 9 жыл бұрын
Best ending... because ERIKA ! !!
@MasterYoshidino
@MasterYoshidino 11 ай бұрын
This ending makes far more sense than Battler changing hair color.
@ChilidogBizkut
@ChilidogBizkut 10 жыл бұрын
Just finished this today. I like this ending better.
@NexuroPL
@NexuroPL 4 жыл бұрын
u're one of those evil witches wanting drama and tragedy... aren't you?
@DocWato
@DocWato 9 жыл бұрын
that ending SO AWESOME
@d007ization
@d007ization 9 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, EP 4 indicates that the henchmen were killed first (if Ange had went ashore). So are we to assume that Amakusa shot the Sumaderas and then walked up to Ange, shot her with the Tokarev and to set up the crime scene (run-on sentences ftw)? OR is it possible that Amakusa had a change of heart? Is it possible that he saved her after she rounded up the Sumaderas for him? This would kind of fit the theme in Ange's life/story arcs. She'd always make the worst possible choice for her own happiness. Committing suicide even though Battler is alive. Destroying her relationship with Eva. Denying any and all magic in her youth. Ignoring the heart in Beatrice's stories. "Killing one of the few people who ever cared for her (and appreciated her)." would fit right in, wouldn't it?
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 5 жыл бұрын
The manga confirms that he would have killed her.
@31Moth13
@31Moth13 5 жыл бұрын
@@juanlaise1059 Even ignoring the manga, the credits of episode 4 mention Ange dying in 1998, so you can connect the dots from there.
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 5 жыл бұрын
@@31Moth13 Hmmm... I guess you are right. I didn't pay much attention to the end credits of Episode 4(I had Chiru installed already and wanted to start reading ASAP :)
@gyalpoirgyud4759
@gyalpoirgyud4759 4 жыл бұрын
@@31Moth13 Battler 'died' in 1986, but Tohya lived on. Ange 'died' in 1998... but Yukari lived on.
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 3 жыл бұрын
@@gyalpoirgyud4759 but i cannot take risks. The trick ending is the only one were Ange will still be 100% alive. She is strong and she can stand on her own feets.
@garoslaw
@garoslaw 10 жыл бұрын
So. Ange pulled an Erika?
@Gyogyitalak
@Gyogyitalak 11 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the same reasoning I reached. I looked through the whole Umineko with my friend and found very interesting clues pointing to this conclusion. I will make a thread about it in the near future at animesuki
@YAMInoARTS
@YAMInoARTS 10 жыл бұрын
I never played this game, but I have to say; I'm glad I picked the trick ending video because it's like I'm playing the actual game. :D
@pasturple5662
@pasturple5662 4 жыл бұрын
you just wasted an entire possible experience.
@highprinceryoma4410
@highprinceryoma4410 3 жыл бұрын
@@pasturple5662 not really, this doesn't answer any questions about umineko's mysteries at all
@nkoonkukoo
@nkoonkukoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@pasturple5662 umineko doesn't give you the answers anyway
@pasturple5662
@pasturple5662 3 жыл бұрын
@@highprinceryoma4410 but still
@Vadim_Slastihin
@Vadim_Slastihin Жыл бұрын
@@nkoonkukoo i mean manga kinda does it...
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 3 жыл бұрын
I wont let anyone rob me from believe on this ending, not even the part of me that wishes the pink colored magic one was real.
@myon9431
@myon9431 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, I feel like we are in the minority though
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 2 жыл бұрын
@@myon9431 Truth or Love/Blindness ?
@spazerdazer8421
@spazerdazer8421 2 жыл бұрын
@@myon9431 it's sad considering how obviously canon the magic ending is. If Ryukishi wanted it to be a big choice on "how to live your life: pessimism into pragmatism at the cost of love vs. Seeing love that doesn't 'exist' to live a happier life at the cost of being tricked" then the two endings should have at the very least been given equal weight, or just not make the trick ending so overtly bad while the magic one overtly "good". There are pros and cons to both lifestyles and ways of thinking, but it seems Umineko is content in only showing the cons of trick and pros of magic.
@darkdragon5520
@darkdragon5520 Жыл бұрын
@@spazerdazer8421 I hate the fact that there isn’t a possibility for middle ground. In real life, it isn’t either blindly following your imagination vs doubting everything and being deadly pessimistic. I was seriously hoping for the trick ending to be about how Ange grows up to accept the fact that her family died horribly, but that she must still go on and stay focused on what’s true and what the future holds so she can become happy. I never would have imagined this would end so badly…
@MineasTheKid
@MineasTheKid 10 ай бұрын
I think part of the reason this ending is given less weight than the Magic ending is because Ange only gets in this position by continuing to chase a truth she doesn’t need. Choosing to live the loveless, pessimistic live is something she has been doing from the start. Ange is completely correct about everything here but had she chosen to live differently, (from the rooftop scene onward) there would’ve been no need for Okonogi to plan around her and kill her, and thus, she wouldn’t have to take the actions here. It’s worth noting that Erika has already taken that route and all it did was make her unhappy and alone
@Turksemployee
@Turksemployee 8 жыл бұрын
Oh... I just realized the magic ending doesnt have a credit roll so that means this ending is...
@MrNotSpecified01
@MrNotSpecified01 7 жыл бұрын
oh shit
@バットバット-t3v
@バットバット-t3v 6 жыл бұрын
Turksemployee ShinRa I think magic ending is the canon one. Since it's followed by the epilogue.
@Turksemployee
@Turksemployee 6 жыл бұрын
@@バットバット-t3v You know how each of the games comes with a difficulty level at the before you start the novel? If this is the reader vs the author where the protagonists are your game pieces and the authors game peice is the antagonists. Wouldnt admitting that magic exists and beato is a witch be like losing the game? Yes you get a beautiful ending with the magic version and die and go to heaven but in the trick ending ange is still alive. She's just a little ummm maniacal. Her family doesnt come back but she finds out the truth and wins only it feels a little empty. I guess this is what ryukishi meant by umineko being a bitter story.
@fafaaf61
@fafaaf61 6 жыл бұрын
Turksemployee ShinRa See, I think this is the type of reasoning that Umineko is explicitly trying to criticize. The mystery genre is not about winning or losing by solving the mystery or not, it's about understanding the author and their messages in their work and then interpreting that message for yourself. In that sense mysteries are more akin to love than a battle. Remember what Willard keeps saying "don't neglect the heart". The author is not rejecting the truth here, but telling us to find the whole truth including both objective reality and subjective experience. In that sense not accepting Beatrice would be more like "losing" as you didn't grasp the whole truth or the "heart" of the mystery, thus not actually solving it. Ange's arc is the same way. When she claims that her family is alive regardless of the red truth or the lies of the world many people take this to mean that she's rejecting the truth. In reality its quite the opposite. She accepts that they have died and the fact that they were terrible people but also accepts the truth that they loved her and that she loved them, which is the complete truth. The fact that they are alive is also true as their memory still exist inside Ange. By finding the complete truth she is able to use it to move on. If you want proof look no further than the goats. The goats are representative of this kind of thinking, that we should win by finding the truth and "killing" the witch. The irony here is that not one them actually got close to solving the mystery as they completely fail to understand the why-dunnit. The three characters who actually solved the truth, Willard, Battler and Erika, each to some degree understand the importance of the "heart" of mystery (though Erika chooses to ultimately ignore it, a choice that is reflected by Ange in this ending).
@E_Hooligan
@E_Hooligan 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t because it continues on to the tea party and the ??? section which does have a credit roll
@000_STORYTIME
@000_STORYTIME 5 жыл бұрын
14:49 ""!""
@Sarkrashandal
@Sarkrashandal 5 жыл бұрын
I like this ending
@jothatch6903
@jothatch6903 9 жыл бұрын
Why is Ange's voice so high-pitched here? Seems that she got a case of the Featherine. :V
@Harlequina89
@Harlequina89 9 жыл бұрын
Jo Thatch It's because of a bug with one of the songs. It could be fixed I think according to one of the comments, but I had already recorded and uploaded the video, so.
@NexuroPL
@NexuroPL 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished the game. Even tho it's not canon ending (tea parties continue magic ending), i like this one more. I guess i'm like one of those evil witches wanting a tragedy and drama
@Dekross
@Dekross 6 ай бұрын
I prefer to think that both are canon. It depends on the reader accepting one ending or another.
@lostsoul3089
@lostsoul3089 3 жыл бұрын
I got so happy when she killed Amakusa.
@MrNotSpecified01
@MrNotSpecified01 7 жыл бұрын
I had put off reading this ending for long enough... Holy shit is it . Makes a lot more sense. I wonder if the reason Ange survives the ambush in the other end is because Amakusa had a change of heart or something. Maybe it really was just an illusion... or it could have been a look inside another fragment. Hmmm... perhaps that is just a view inside Ange's mind as she theorized about the possible outcomes of the plot to kill her.
@EpicFailVids
@EpicFailVids 5 жыл бұрын
She doesn't survive in other fragments. Chapter 4 end credits says she dies in 1998. Why she dies? Who knows. Either after falling from skyscraper(safety net unlikely saves you). Or she was killed by Amakusa(Higurashi style ending).
@gyalpoirgyud4759
@gyalpoirgyud4759 4 жыл бұрын
The Magic end starts with Ange on the skyscraper. She doesn't go to Rokkenjima at all.
@anubis7457
@anubis7457 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpicFailVids Dying just means the “personality” dies. Look at Shannon and Kanon who get confirmed dead in every game. If Ange discards her name and becomes someone new, Ange Ushiromiya dies.
@Cheletiba
@Cheletiba 11 жыл бұрын
Essentially, it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter to us. Its a catbox that has been intentionally kept shut by the only person that really mattered because she decided the result without opening it. But this answer I've given you doesn't matter either. Without love, the ending cannot be seen, much less understood.
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 3 жыл бұрын
Love wont keep Ange alive. Trick ending ensures she will live.
@Dahpie
@Dahpie 3 жыл бұрын
@@onemoregodrejected9369 Except she dies of cancer in the magic ending but she's gonna die in Trick of the same thing anyway or at least old age pursing a meaningless life looking for narrow minded truth that doesn't exist.
@hendix2200
@hendix2200 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dahpie i mean, it's not said she will die because of the cancer, there is a small chance that her will die naturally
@YOTSUBA_desu
@YOTSUBA_desu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dahpie Where does it says she dies of cancer? Maybe a /pol/subhuman can provide a legitimate answer for once.
@Dahpie
@Dahpie 2 жыл бұрын
@@YOTSUBA_desu The Magic ending states that she has a tumour but the context of the surrounding statement implies she doesn't have long left to live. So while granted it's not overtly stated it's pretty obvious.
@foreinscorp
@foreinscorp 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the badass ANGE-Beatrice
@highprinceryoma4410
@highprinceryoma4410 3 жыл бұрын
Umineko is the visual novel equivalent of Midsommar. In the beginning, you know that the witches are downright fucked up for toying with peoples' lives, especially Beatrice who fakes feeling bad about it and betrays you. We watch Beatrice essentially mindbreak and manipulate Battler to the point where he completely forgets about all of that and sides with her. As this happens, the audience is also manipulated into siding with Beatrice using the same tactics. And what do the fans say if you challenge this, suggesting it isn't a happy ending? "Without love, it cannot be seen."
@Dekross
@Dekross 6 ай бұрын
As other people commented, this is not a happy ending at all. The mafia are not gonna let Ange alone, she probably was killed anyways after this.
@sparktwochristopher7240
@sparktwochristopher7240 6 ай бұрын
What a pessimistic mindset you guys have..
@ItsJustTeddington
@ItsJustTeddington 11 жыл бұрын
Best. Ending.
@genekane
@genekane 3 жыл бұрын
How cute is that Beatrice doll
@nedprofit
@nedprofit 9 жыл бұрын
ERIKA BOSS!
@Lottistari
@Lottistari 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why but I prefer this over the magic ending.
@Pixlization
@Pixlization 11 жыл бұрын
It could have been either one, we'll never know. Of course we're more inclined to believe Ange possibly because of the scene before where the outcome she predicted did happen (though she "killed" all the Sumadera hit men with the stakes in that one), but we can still believe in paranoia. But it doesn't matter because we can never know what happens once the last lock of the catbox has been closed forever.
@ПётрКондратьев-к7ы
@ПётрКондратьев-к7ы 5 жыл бұрын
@spellbrand477
@spellbrand477 Жыл бұрын
Is it wrong to think this ending is actually quite happy, or at least conclusive? Ange accepted the fact that her family is dead, but still decided to live on, along with Erika, perhaps to screw the plans of bad guys like Amakusa in the future?
@Matias-zh3dp
@Matias-zh3dp 10 ай бұрын
You and everyone who thinks this ending is "happy" or "conclusive" are underestimating how huge the mafia network actually is.
@Dekross
@Dekross 6 ай бұрын
​@@Matias-zh3dp Yep, Ange is fucked in this ending. Ironically, people that think that this is the happier ending are more delusional than the magic ending ones.
@cocoearmuffs6207
@cocoearmuffs6207 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like either ending and no one could really say they found out what really happened no matter how close they actually are. Welp, I could either say it's no use in guessing what happened to the cat in the box, but it's simply better to guess. Though the box is locked and can't be opened simply because the one that has locked it refuses to open it... I'll simply move on knowing my theory can be true. Damn I wish I said this 2 years or maybe 3 years earlier. And ofc no ones gonna get a black and white/straight forward answer and every hint left behind is only going to make you think more bc it fits well with such vague endings with either being the truth or neither. And I'm out.
@Harlequina89
@Harlequina89 11 жыл бұрын
Haha yea, noticed. If I had to guess, it's not present in the PS3 game, and is simply just a bug with the UmiTweak patch.
@Lyendith
@Lyendith 11 жыл бұрын
… I don't know if this is in the patch or even in the original PS3 version, but there is a weird bug with the music "the End of the World". Characters start to speak as though they had sniffed helium or something whenever it plays. ò.Ô
@Funchal99
@Funchal99 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, people calling it the best ending. Sure, we're all entitled to our own opinions, but I'd say you have to be pretty heartless to pick the trick ending and like it lol.
@lptc5
@lptc5 10 жыл бұрын
People like it because it's realistic, in my opinion the magic ending is a whole lot of fan-service. It showed what people wanted to see, I think this ending is better written.
@Funchal99
@Funchal99 10 жыл бұрын
I think this ending is more like an extra that confirms some theories about EP 4 if anything. I wouldn't call it realistic, expecially considering the core message Umineko took 8 episodes to tell. I also wouldn't say the magic ending showed what people wanted to see. I mean, a lot of people raged about the fact it didn't really openly explain what happened in Rokkenjima.
@misterdent9413
@misterdent9413 10 жыл бұрын
***** Sure it's more "realistic," but it also spits in the face of everything the author wanted to project in his story.This ending was more or less written by the author to confirm how many people reading it really didn't give a rat's ass about the story and characters, and just wanted answers. I wouldn't consider this ending better written at all, since it purposely throws everything the story was building up to at the wayside, outright changes characterization in order to have a "LOL TROLL" ending, reveals that the Metaworld does exist (Despite this being the "Magic isn't real!" ending,) and doesn't bring any closure to half of the story. The Magic Ending didn't show what people wanted to see at all, and most of Episode 8 was mocking the fanbase. (Anyone familiar with the Umineko fanbase knows that the majority of them HATE Episode 8 with a passion, and like Funchal said, most hated the ending because the truth was never exposed in black and white.)
@DarknessInside0
@DarknessInside0 10 жыл бұрын
***** I think the author is trying to say that truth isn't always needed, sometimes what people need is lies, or 'embellishments' as Virgillia put it, or 'Magic', because the heart matters too. That was what Battler trying to say to Ange. Even Dlanor A. Knox and Willard H. Wright, who denies witches and magics, accept that 'heart matters too'. In this trick ending, Ange reached the truth behind everything but I think she wouldn't be able to live happily even after knowing the truth, similar to how Furudo Erika is right now. That is why I prefer the magic ending, the magic ending has the 'love' that the trick ending lacks.
@Darkseh
@Darkseh 10 жыл бұрын
Ange did say at the end that truth is not worth anything. Honestly I dont think this is that realistic concerning the end where she talks with Erika. It is obviously just ending that is there as side dish for everyone who wanted answers and did you get answers ? Nope. Only more questions. I also agree that the magic ending is the way to go as it feels more complete. For me at least. But that is just a theory. Like everything about Umineko really XD.
@TheRavenPHT
@TheRavenPHT 2 жыл бұрын
I actually liked this ending more than the magic ending
@yukichad6006
@yukichad6006 2 жыл бұрын
IKR!!! IT'S SO EPICCCCCC.
@Gyogyitalak
@Gyogyitalak 11 жыл бұрын
You have to adjust the background music's frequency to those musics where this bug doesn't occur. If I remember well it was 48000 Hz. Just download some random converter and you should be able to fix it.
@lunatic_method
@lunatic_method 8 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in this ending. Amakusa seemed to be quietly against Ange going here, as you can tell from Okonogi reminding him not to go soft over the phone, and also from his little bit about "becoming a child soldier". As we can see in the actual conflict between Ange and Sumadera, Ange and her bodyguard were actually working together. When she said "shoot" after having a gun pulled on her in that exchange, it wasn't a dare, she was talking to Amakusa, who was watching over her from afar. For all the planning Amakusa did, and for all his value as a soldier of fortune, I don't believe he'd be stuck speechless just because some gloomy girl pulled a gun on him. He had absolutely nothing to say despite there being easy ways to at least attempt to explain yourself? Nonsense. Even if you don't believe in magic, this is the ending for people who have learned nothing.
@BenkaiDebussy
@BenkaiDebussy 8 жыл бұрын
While it seems like nothing post-"about to jump off the skyscraper" actually happened with Anje, in the context of this sequence of events Anje's conclusion could still definitely be possible. Okonogi/Amakusa don't really want to kill Anje; their ideal outcome is one where Anje just lives normally. But they're willing to kill her if it looks like she's going to do something crazy like sell off all the company's assets. It's a last resort for them.
@E_Hooligan
@E_Hooligan 5 жыл бұрын
Lunatic method san...
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 3 жыл бұрын
Learn nothing? Ange must survive. I love her character and this is the only path that leads to her being 100% alive. Paranoia? Yeah. Alive Ange? That too!
@emilb.5826
@emilb.5826 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the name of the soundtrack that plays when Ange shoots Amakusa? Thank you very much in advance!
@hamlindigoblue9295
@hamlindigoblue9295 3 жыл бұрын
Ik im 2 years late but its called "lie-alaiaa"
@hobisoon
@hobisoon 4 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack at 0:39
@darkdragon5520
@darkdragon5520 Жыл бұрын
Why would not believing in magic means you’ve got to kill people who you are suspicious of? For Amakusa, that’s understandable, but for the ferryman, it doesn’t make sense at all.
@mizulightblue
@mizulightblue Жыл бұрын
He could easily turn her in. He knew that Amakusa was dead by now. If she wouldn't have killed him too, she most likely would get killed as well
@darkdragon5520
@darkdragon5520 Жыл бұрын
@@mizulightblue She had the guns. She’s gonna run from the police anyways, so why kill an innocent witness?
@sophie0002
@sophie0002 5 жыл бұрын
best ending
@ciconiawtc5674
@ciconiawtc5674 5 жыл бұрын
はぁ…、縁寿に救いがあれば…
@Sorbus-commixta
@Sorbus-commixta 11 жыл бұрын
え、縁寿...
@64inkblots
@64inkblots 11 жыл бұрын
A-Ange!?
@YoshiyaKanon
@YoshiyaKanon Жыл бұрын
9:52
@insipidharpoon982
@insipidharpoon982 6 жыл бұрын
What song plays at 14:50?
@dlanorm.h.1586
@dlanorm.h.1586 5 жыл бұрын
Umineko no naku koro ni - rengoku
@ancientlibrary
@ancientlibrary 11 жыл бұрын
wait i didnt gte the ending can someone explain?
@Pigziggy
@Pigziggy 10 жыл бұрын
goodo
@Yuurinnmiki5
@Yuurinnmiki5 11 жыл бұрын
What is the name of sounds used in this video?
@ancientlibrary
@ancientlibrary 11 жыл бұрын
awww didnt wat that to hapen :(
@higurashifriends2517
@higurashifriends2517 4 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌👏👏
@machy4266
@machy4266 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why I'm getting into this series but I was interested in the relation to Himurashi. All I've seen are random clips from KZbin. Lotsa arguments here leave me pretty much in the dust.
@MrNotSpecified01
@MrNotSpecified01 7 жыл бұрын
A month late here, but... READ IT. Even with spoilers, you won't regret it. And unless you already grasp the truth, it is pretty much impossible to ruin all of mystery with a couple of clips.
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