Ummagawd 2Fiddy changed my mind about sub-250g freestyle (vs. GEPRC Smart35 HD)

[@LongBowBW]

Just recently got blessed by the algorithm to bring me to FPV. I am hooked. Got a betafpv 2 and a simulator to start. Your videos have really helped me jump into this head first. Thank you for the content!

[@PsychoFPV117]

Dude same happened to me. Get yourself a nice little bind n fly you can practice with and fix when you crash. That’s what I did to get my feet wet in the hobby and now I’ve built 2 of my own custom builds. Seems daunting at first there is so much to learn but if you spend a good 2 months learning everything you possibly can you’ll be a borderline expert in no time. Hope to see your freestyle vids someday brotha. Edit: didn’t realize that was 9mo ago. Hope you’re a pro now hahaha

[@Salamattder]

Your wallet will hate you, but we are glad you are here

[@mikehar2210]

It's totally worth it... you can FLY !!!

[@user-eq2ug7in7b]

Welcome, this channel will be your Bible 😅 How's your flying been going since a year???

[@grizoh]

Wow your flight with the 5" was insane. That was probably my favorite of your flights. The fact your ripped it like that right away says something.

[@jdnic1]

man, i started watching this channel when Joshua Bardwell could barely fly. now his just throwing down some awesome freestyle moves. sometimes i have to rewind the video to see how i could replicate a few moves.

[@TheDiegoAranda]

Tommy is a genius and you can absolutely tell he poured his heart and soul into developing and tuning the 2FIDDY. He cared enough about the community to design a sub-250g 5" quad that is incredibly fun to fly, while also remaining *legal* to fly in the (terrible) inevitable future.

[@jpaul8589]

Screw the 250 limit. Always remember that this BS rule is being handed down by a phenomenally incompetent and opaque government.

[@dustinjohnson4831]

Every video I watch of yours I continue to see your flying just gets better and better and better!

[@skyweaver3199]

Tommy can make a pretty quad, JB your reaction is great. "Screw disk loading"

[@skyweaver3199]

The ZIP TIES , that's...he's a fkin genius.

[@HarleyAssi]

This made me snort loudly. Together with his "Screw Discloading" right after a lenghty lecture about it... where my favorite parts of the video.

[@AponeFPV]

I hardly ever comment on videos, but would like to say, thank you for another great review and everything else 👍👍👍

[@idkfpv6435]

Too bad the 2 fiddy about 5 hunna😭

[@cchance]

Not if you build yourself

[@cchance]

Bardwell didn’t see the 2fiddy build videos testing durability lol

[@audiogek]

Don't think so 😆

[@wrstew1272]

Ya mean that one where he flew into the wall repeatedly? Flew or threw? Memory blank, it was a while back.

[@audiogek]

@@wrstew1272 I remember endless flying into a tree.

[@pctechadvisor]

LOL with the zip ties. I just got done building an Apex with a Vista and the first thing that came to my mind was to use small zips in the 20mm holes! I loved your reaction to that!

[@JustShootLight]

Well....this video was worth watching if ONLY for the knowledge of "I'm never using screws on a Vista again!"

[@dagazenterprise]

i will say i was also blown away the first time i took off. I ordered mine during the pre buy and got it pretty soon after. You missed out on the original button head screws, i think they were made from uncured jello, any little bit of torque and they just opened up like a round flower. Also, that early on GNB had yet to release the 380 6s so i purchased 2 550 6s packs. Right out of the gate it felt great at about 270 grams all up. I'm running analog with a runcam split mini. I was easily getting 6+ minutes from it not being kind. The 380's came out and i got some of them, the build comes in at 237 grams and i get a typical 5" run time on them. Tonight i was out just cruising around doing some exploring since i've converted it to Crossfire and i had 8:57 on the armed time when i landed ant i was still at 3.6 volts per cell. It's quite a nice rig. Beware the 3 blade props, the break easily at the hub if you crash. Also, durability, for some reason the bell loosens on the motor shaft and the 2fiddy will fly funny as there is axial motion. Super glue has helped and Ummagawd has been very helpful along the way. Cheers!

[@KwaddawK]

Having only mounted 1 vista so far and since they don't come with screws, the only way I could think of to install it was with a ziptie through the screw holes. I thought that's how everyone would simply do it.

[@michaelmaxwell7386]

that zip tie is exactly how I had done mine when I switched to caddx unit. When JB says its a good idea and the smartest thing, sure makes you feel good you had thought of the same thing!. LOL

[@forwatching6708]

Can't wait for this level to come to mass market. sadly i lack the ability to build one of these or the money for DJI but its awesome to know the technology is there.

[@FPVPRINTS]

Ummagawd 2fiddy is AMAZING. I still haven't broken any carbon. Also says size of Tommy's motors on the base. P.s. replaceable arms FTW. I HATE unibodyss

[@technoxtreme178]

I won't even look at a quad with a unibody bottom frame; too much disassembly if you crack an arm. 30 minutes to an hour to change and re-check, not to mention re-screwing too many times does "loosen" things. Replaceable arms take 5 minutes and are always a must-have to me.

[@Przemo-c]

From what I remember disc loading should not used on how it will fly. But should inform prop choice. How many blades, how strong props(resistance to deflection), what pitch. Also ... This is an impressive quad.

[@avgvstvs96]

JB: "its faster" forgetting he's comparing a 5" to a 3.5" 😂

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying, Joshua! We can feel your enjoyment flying it! 😂 Tommy did do a FANTASTIC job designing that quad! Really impressive! 😃 About the 3.5" quads, you need to try the Diatone one! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@flowstate_link]

He loves it!!! It really knocked his socks off!

[@MCsCreations]

@@flowstate_link Yeah, I totally agree! 😃

[@TheRoybert]

If the bind button gets broken, you simply have to jump the two contacts on the exterior. Easy peasy. I used a piece of solder wire to touch both sides.

[@capnsmashemfpv969]

In all honesty the 2fiddy is a great quad. That being said the gold hardware is like butter they strip out and come loose. The motors are good until the shaft drops and a bell shoots off. Change all hardware and get different motors.

[@flightevolution8132]

The motors are a large part of what makes the quad so special.

[@johnenriquez6757]

“it’s a great quad, but change everything about it”

[@flibri5508]

Sometimes he talks about drones the way David Attenborough talks about squirrels

[@conquestfpv9216]

Im so glad you said something about the shocker 4” because i was in between the 2fiddy 5” and shocker 4” you have the best review for both imo, i really like the style of both quads i would like to see you fly that shocker4” again cause its been my #1 contender and Ive been contemplating for a few months about these. Im just not sure about the polar. Thanks jb

[@Dragon129Slayer]

I was in exactly the same boat. I decided to go with the Shocker, ordered it yesterday. The polar might be great, especially at dusk, anxious to find out.

[@conquestfpv9216]

@@Dragon129Slayer i agree with that im going to get the shocker i gota save another 200$ tho so maybe next month. Im going dji so im spending prob like 1600 all at once so im taking my time.

[@Atlas_FPV]

You really need to try the Rekon 4 FR / HGLRC Sector 4, could be the perfect sub250g freestyle drone, designed by Dave_C, 4", 1804 3500kv motors and flies just like a 5".

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Yea like the rekon 4 fr comes with 1804 motors. But would of liked slightly more kv I think 3800 to 4000kv

[@runpuppyfpv5744]

It was nice of you to go ahead and give it a shot but I think your original asumption was more correct

[@BNIRc]

Hearing your breathing rate accelerate as you fly this quad makes me want to buy it, and I am new to fpv and durability I didn't think was going to be a thing came from old balsa trick planes got one shot on those bad boys 👍😉 AWESOME channel

[@brendand.2269]

So glad you FINALLY flew it……. Hate say I told you so but at least now you know! Awesome job Tommy I love both of mine

[@SensorDelay]

The kwads Ummagawd put together are so prem and labors of ❤. I wish I could put money towards that bad boi.

[@theshadow2576]

You should try one of Sub250gfpv's frames. Crash straighten the prop, and carry on flying. Tough as nails and so much fun.

[@johncarold]

Hi Josh Great video on the 2fiddy with the Smart 35. For 5 years I have been flying 3in and smaller. I do have a couple of 5in but I don't have any room for them to fly right now. I am very excited about 4in now. Thanks again for the video and information.

[@baggszilla]

You changed my mind the Ummagawd 2Fiddy is NASTY! I think I'm gonna grab one now.

[@Deserthacker]

Bardwell -> Bard well. "Barde" was a German word for a celtic singer/poem writer. The scottish version is "Bard". Have you ever checked your family history? There might be some fascinating stuff there!

[@sketchpv3080]

I have a 3” quad, a 4” quad, and a 2Fiddy 5” with 2004 2400kv motors running on 5S and it’s by far my favorite quad to fly. 290g AUW though with a 700mah 5S. I can fly this 5” in any tight places I can fly my 230g AUW 3”, yet it can stretch it’s legs in an open area.

[@earlybirdflights9884]

That geprc smart 35 is awesome it even flys great on 3s

[@tylerelliottFPV]

Maybe it's mentioned later in the video, I'm not all the way through yet. I imagine having a 2 blade prop vs 3 blade prop changes the disk loading quite a bit. So having a 250g AUW 5" with two blade prop is probably close to 250g AUW 3inch with 3 blades

[@pippifpv]

The disk loading theory, doesn't take in matter number of blades or blade thickness. Only thing that it looks at, is blade diameter. Other than that, number of blades obviously changes how a quad handles. Edit: the disk loading theory, only tries to match the weight with propsize to get a similar flight feel of different build sizes.

[@SkyHigh8800]

Interesting as I was looking to build something that I can fly in my backyard to practice acro that would emulate the flight characteristics of a 5 inch. I was going to build a 3.5

[@justinwright82]

I preordered the 2fiddy as soon as Ummagawd made it possible. My 1st 6s quad and my absolute favorite. Running a Jhemcu f722 with his exact tune. 7-10 minutes on a Maxamps 100c 430mah.

[@scu-dub]

19:14 lol I thought JB found some unobtanium that Tommy put into the 2fiddy lol this was a great vid I am trying to pull the trigger on my first REAL freestyle quad and the gep rc 35 and rekon 4 fr are on my list only because I'm trying to stay sub 250.....that 2fiddy flew like a firefly!!!!!!👍✌

[@MrRelys]

Checkout the specs on the HappyModel Crux35 that they're going to release soon. Seems similar to the GEPRC one but much cheaper (and has ELRS built into the AIO)

[@Igor-eo1kd]

Thank you for the review.I have considered 2f. You ruined my doubts.

[@DarrenAllatt]

I have just had the 2Fiddy with 4" Arms arrive in Sydney, Australia. 4" props is quite tight, so I have 3.5" props on it with 1804 2400 KV motors.

[@micklefpv]

What about the rekon 4 fr?

[@frasersteen]

I have 2fiddy like build with 2550kv motors, I'm really liking the new gemfan 4.5" props on it

[@DudeAteMyHomework]

"ohhh.... OHHHH.... it feels like a five inch.... it flings like a five inch.... ohhh yes.... its just getting from point A to point B, in a way a three inch just does not." -Joshua Bardwell

[@lorenzomacchietti9102]

Looks incredibly fun to fly. Thanks for the review

[@cowboyfpv2464]

Might just make a 6inch toothpick 😂😂

[@theAIex2]

Nice video, I was wondering about the flying time? I think for many people that is an important factor. Does anybody knows the average time for the 2fiddy?

[@xview_studio]

Great review as always

[@patregan]

1408, 1507, 1606, and 2004 motors all have approximately the same stator volume. I know that doesn't tell the whole story, but it says the 1404 motors on the geprc are about half the size of the 2Fiddy motors. The disc area of the 5" props is also about twice as large as the 3.5" props. That makes me think the 1404 motors should ought to be about the right size for 3.5", but I bet that isn't quite the right ratio of height to diameter. My "sub-250" is usually more like 275g. It has 1606 motors, and I've flown both 3.5" and 4" props. I prefer the 3.5", but even on 3.5" it is still super responsive on the throttle. I don't know exactly what's different about quads with high power:weight ratios, but my sub-250 just cruises SO FAST without giving it a lot of pitch. I fly it with quite a bit less than 15 degrees of uptilt, and when I'm cruising, I know I'm cooking faster than I would be with my 25-degree 725-gram 5".

[@VladRum]

Cinelog25 v2 is not only for a video shooting :) And I'm surprised with geprc 1404, it a perfect motors.

[@bkmahaffey]

I build a mutant 4in with shark byte under 250g with 4s850 and it is so awesome!!!! My favorite quad at the moment.

[@fpv_proximity_drone_freestyle]

I am flying with 5inch sub250g and its no problem and also I love Flying with this drone 🔥

[@DaxNealFPV]

3.33v in 2 min 3 secs isn’t good but still looks fun!

[@Vousie]

Exactly. The trade-off is flight time. Not a good one to me.

[@KCQuadTronX]

HEY BROTHER THANKS FOR THE GRETA VIDEO!!!

[@DreamFlyEcuador]

And suddenly Bardwell flies like Steele haha

[@stormriderfpv]

I fly my 2Fiddy at 249g with 2005 motors, bi-blade props, naked Vista and 720mah 4s. 5" sub250 is great 🚀🚀

[@cashmoneypwns]

I love the titan xl5 frame. It’s built like a tank and handles like an X class

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

When Tommy was first releasing his videos on the twofiddy, I could tell it was gonna be an awesome quad.

[@7robertb]

in essence you are talking about the inertial moment. this is how it feels in the air.

[@MaxRovensky]

I might buy a few of these just to salvage those 4:3 DJI cameras 😂

[@kevinbeltboost8075]

I know JB might not agree but you can fly the Smart35 under 250g with a de-cased GoPRO / SMO4k which is the tip of the scale in its favor for me. If you don't want / need an action cam mounted and just want all out best performance under 250g then I completely agree the 2fiddy is the way to go!

[@warbirdflyer46]

I use TPU filament to tie my vistas to the quad. Through the same screw holes.

[@ShinyVideoStuff]

How long did the battery last? Seems like it was dying after

[@unything2696]

That's some important information missing. And that's on 6S, where you'd expect to go fly the whole pack to hold the voltage well before it suddenly drops at the end. Maybe the higher kV + limiter had a negative impact, I don't know.

[@brendand.2269]

Same as my 5” 700 gram quads that are 4s and running 1450mah about 3.5 minutes depending on how hard you rip. The 2fiddy still flys amazing with a 650mah on it and then I get 5+ minutes but the weight is over 250 then. It truly is wild how much you can “fling” it

[@alexanderfpv6655]

@@brendand.2269 I fly mine with a 650 as well. It's basicly a LR quad at that point. I've slow cruised to 9+ minutes on the Gemfan LR 5126 bi-blades. I was trying to hit 10min but voltage sagged hard after 9.

[@Vousie]

@@alexanderfpv6655 So... You bought a sub250 quad, with all things it gives up to get there, and then put a battery on it that puts it over the limit anyway? Why even get a sub250 then?

[@alexanderfpv6655]

@@Vousie I buy stuff from people who make things that I want to support. I didn't know there were such strict rules I needed to follow. Maybe I would buy your frame if you made one? You kind of sound like a hater - so you probably don't make cool stuff.

[@RCRitterFPV]

but... 5" biprop is kinda like a 3.5" triblade right? 5" * 2 * 4 ... 3.5" * 3 * 4 in terms of drag, tossability... still want to see the 250 with 4" triblades with 5mm square arms (think they are 4 now) think the weight savings should be in cell count and motor size...my gut says 3S 1100... 3600kv 1607... 3.5" 50g frame... 80g battery... 80g motors.... Vista 30g totally open to being wrong.

[@pritchfpv6070]

4:53 crazy power line gap 😳

[@hofa]

Looking for this 😂

[@mlit83]

Thanks again for a brilliant video. Been a while since I've been doing fpv stuff, but just getting back into it. I see u have a new mic, or new sound. And it carries a lot of bass!! I know it takes a fckload of time to make a video, but sound mixing might be something to look at? 😉

[@glennmccormick8661]

Whoa, over $500 for a 5 inch that could break easily? A 5 inch you must fly like a delicate tulip? Does it make more sense to keep flying a 700g 5 inch that can take abuse and flies better and costs less, plus you can have your gopro?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

250g limit is a legal requirement in some places. If your can go over 250g obviously it's better.

[@eshenmaresch1868]

“Oh Ma GaWd”

[@xymaryai8283]

the RR Outlaw and UG 2fiddy are probably great and i shouldn't judge them without flying, but the Dave C Rekon 4FR just seems like a way better idea for flexibility of use, maybe not as precisely engineered for performance as it seems Ummagawd and Catalyst Machineworks have put in German+Swiss levels of effort and engineering for pure performance.

[@TheRoybert]

My 2Fiddy 4 inch is the right compromise. Do not like the 2 screw mount. Too easily broken on ground impact. My 3.5 is the AOS. Very quick. Hard to go slower. Nowhere near as much flight time on 3.5 as the 2Fiddy, but I'm not ready to fly at top speeds with obstacles. I'm at about 600 minutes of flight time. I tune the throttle on each quad to perform to my feel rather than let the quad dictate the throttle. Do NOT use the soft screws that come with the Ummagawd. They are garbage. Mine snapped easily.

[@LS-xb2fh]

1. The 1404 motors are literally half the size of the 2004s (by stator volume). There is no way the geprc can keep up with the 2fiddy in terms of handling, responsiveness and power. 2. Tommy could have designed an amazing 3.5 or 4 inch sub 250 copter. But how much of the 2fiddy's greatness comes from being well designed and how much comes from being 5"@250g? Imho there is no right answer. The floaty nimbleness of a toothpick with low disk loading is fun, and having the fling of a heavy quad is fun, too. The rekon4fr seems to be a good middle ground (with appropriatly sized motors).

[@SilverFox80521]

Let’s drop the 250g charade. We fly for the fun factor. What is most fun overall? Have you flown the Babyhawk2HD? How about the Diatone Roma F35? Or the F4? Each of these has different design and a unique feel. 5” is not the undisputed champ of fun anymore. And maybe in the end it’s the CMW Shocker 4”. Let’s have a ‘most fun to fly’ shootout.

[@AndyDreadFPV]

6:40 Iflight beast F7 no good for a full weight 5inch. I seriously beg to differ as my budget beater quad with a heavy Source One frame and Eco II motors carrying a Runcam5 orange running on 1250mAh 6S has survived lots of hard ripping and several crashes with this same exact 45A AIO. It's my everyday flyer. So please test it before you telling folks it's no good for a full weight 5inch. It most certainly is and i can imagine the H7 55A version is even better.

[@badfourlife]

Ive got the 30.5 beast on a 5-6" and its been solid, have the 25mm H7 on a 7" 2506 also been soild... make sure you 470-1000uf cap aio's and you should be fine..... Im sure compared to regular stacks they dont handle crash's/turtle's as good but ive been happy with mine( i dont crash)

[@pippifpv]

Have iflight found a fix for the missing support of bidirectional dshot of the first badge?

[@badfourlife]

@@pippifpv I got it working, i believe i was on BF 4.24 and used blheli m to flash 16.71? it was like 6 months ago but i think 16.73 i was still having motor 3 issues if i am remembering numbers correctly

[@pippifpv]

@@badfourlife so it is fixed now? And was it I ly on f7 or h7 too?

[@AndyDreadFPV]

@@pippifpv Well mine came with BLHeli-S so no support out of the box so i immediately upgraded to Blue Jay and have been running RPM filtering on it since the fist flight.

[@grizzfpv3321]

If you loved the 5in I think you would love the 4in version on 3.5in props has the same control but better feel

[@jpsalis]

4:52 ooooooh sketch, could you see those wires?

[@johndavis6482]

Getting 👍 practicin those cricket slips threw the woods .......

[@MT-xy7fw]

I'm glad we in Europe don't need to worry about the 250g crap. We just need to register whatever we fly lol

[@mil-fpv4931]

Or then just fly and not register at all. Here the police propably wont shoot you.

[@MT-xy7fw]

@@mil-fpv4931 True that!

[@hofa]

But… we Europeans need to worry… a self-built sub 250 quad falls in the Open A1 category which you can essentially fly everywhere below 120m that’s not a no-fly zone and a heavier self-built (up until 25 kg, wtf) falls in the Open A3 category which defines that you have to stay about 200m away from people and buildings (and under 120m outside no-fly zones) + you need certification. Self-built also includes non-regulated drones so essentially all BNFs count as self-built. And only the pilot needs to be registered now, not the individual quads. That’s for all EU countries as of januari 1st 2021. Ignoring these rules won’t get you shot and likely not prosecuted but can lead to huge fines if something goes wrong (flying into someone, something, somewhere (military domain)) and you get caught. Not telling you what to do whatsoever but just know that there are clear rules so you don’t spread misinformation.

[@MT-xy7fw]

@@hofa Do you think when a newbie buy a dji mavic from amazon care about register? I very much doubt it. They just rely on the restrictions in the fly app.

[@MT-xy7fw]

@@hofa also, regardless if you have registered or not, you will get into trouble if you injure or damage someones property. Just need common sense.

[@fabricea.1608]

Sorry i prefer 4 inch sub 250g as Rekon FPV 4 FR.

[@dallasb7117]

Another Great video...There's a place where you say the GEPRC 35 ISN'T the best 3.5....What is ?

[@aythixfpv]

Should have tried my 2fiddy at flowstate. The 2203 motors are outrageous.

[@tb6638]

bardwell, You need to do a video where you fly a LOS RC plane, itd be funny

[@cjmfpvfreestyle9415]

Thanks keep up the good work

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Thanks, will do!

[@fabianviola]

Hey Joshua ✌️ I think your explanation about discload is just one side of the flight experience. The 'fling ability' is not influenced by the size of the probs. The momentum it carries is defined by its weight!

[@hofa]

TLDR: You’re wrong about the influence of the propsize 😆 Flingability is still influenced by idle spinning motors, airmode and the dynamics of stopping a manoeuvre. Throwing your quad for a split S will spin up two motors to stop the initial half roll and also airmode tries to keep your quad stable by counteracting movement that’s not initiated by the sticks (wind or busted up props spinning in idle) by - you guessed it - spinning up motors. Drib once explained that you can carry a split S further by putting in a bit of reverse yaw when doing the half roll, causing the thrust direction to be less in the opposite direction off the ‘flinged’ quad AND when diving a building, you should pitch down more to get thrust direction downward instead of ‘away from the building’ (thus in both cases essentially minimizing the impact of the described motor actions). Flinging a 250 gr 5” vs a 250gr 3” is going to be a different experience.

[@fabianviola]

@@hofa thx for the explanation! Would be a great experiment to fling two 250g quads with different propsizes in the same way and compare the trajectories

[@hofa]

@@fabianviola yeah man, would be great!

[@christhorney]

i love my crux35, such a beast.. im thinking of sticking 2 bottom plates together (they only weigh 14 grams by the time you add some glue and longer screws it will add probably about 20grams) to make it basically a 6mm bottom plate, at the moment in standard form with no hd camera, just a battery with my heaviest battery its 190 grams and i get over 10 min flight time and it hovers at 20% throttle with a 75% throttle scaled limit, so by the time i add an extra bottom plate and a SMO 4k it will be about 250grams, but ill prob be running it just with a thumb pro so it will come in around 230 grams or something, i did fly it with my old sony action camera on it that weighs 90 grams totaling 280 grams but super top heavy where its tuned to be bottom heavy as it carries its battery below, so i found it was super wobbly and terrible to fly, but that could easily be tuned out by someone more compitent than me, i think a light little thumb pro or a caddex peanut or even a smo4k it will handle no worries chasing dirt bikes, doing freestyle where im likely to crash i think ill only ever carry a thumb pro as i dont have the money for replacing expencive cameras every time i crash lol, but im also looking at things like the turtle v2 so for my flying i can record on that, but if i want to get some sick shots of the dirt bikes i can strap a good camera to it since im not really going to be crashing into solid stationary objects like i do when im just flying around hitting gaps and stuff

[@roystevenson9632]

Great insights and presentation.

[@skydream_fpv6519]

I just bought the last PNP version and its all sold out now but I had to get my hands on some caddx Pro. Will also be my first soder job, time to order a Soder Test board I guess. Learned so mutch and sureley used your link for it. Best wishes and greetings from Germany. I Wonder what battery I will be able to use with my vista360 go mounted and staying below that 250g.

[@kingofthenoobs590]

At 3:15 he reminded me of myself with my 5" weighing in at 915 grams with a Gopro.. Flew absolutley amazing, but you could really feel the weight. It was a great freestyle quad but you had to properly plan the routes you were going to fly. Otherwise it was perfect imo.

[@PIDtoolbox]

Impressive propwash control

[@moss1transcendant]

Tamiyas blue lock tight is the best

[@Reecefpv]

Tommy just created the next regulation lol. It'll have to be sub 150-200 after they see this quad lol

[@62heliman]

Joshua, Can you do a video on setup who to program pro glow power with open TX. Keeps the glow plug burning on a4 stroke nitro inverted. Low throttle setting.

[@ReeferNoob23]

Love flying

[@krsslim]

Use cubic disk loading, it's more accurate. With 2d disk loading the numbers start to get very strange the further you get away from the original model you were scaling.

[@nickvledder]

Nice video, Joshua, thanks!

[@253SB3ST]

My man Joshua you’ve become quite the freestyle pilot as of late :) good job! And quite inspiring I must say! What state do you live in? It looks a lot like my home here in Washington state!!

[@motodr441]

i have a good compromise for you between both of them i had a flaywoo lr4 frame and 1507 racestar motors and it flow grate antill i lost it it wase 263g wit an 850ma 4s CNL battery if u get a lighter battery or 1507 motores you can easily get it ander 250g i am collecting parts to build it again

[@thatyoungdrama6365]

I’ve been wanting to build a drone for 4 5 years now but don’t know anything about drone and the differences, good pricing soldering, exc. but I wanna build one tho goes so fast and records good videos

[@alugigione7846]

I think you should try the flywoo firefly nano 1s baby it is under 250g

[@rollinwest1970]

Which one should you get? How much money do you have? And the 2Fiddy comes with the Nebula Pro at RDQ right now. How much flight time do you like? The BabyHawk 2 HD gets about 10 minutes on an 850mah battery and I assume the Smart 35 is similar, but I doubt the Smart35 is under 250 with that size battery. Tough decision and I think my final call will be about price and availability of parts in the future. Will Tommy still have parts for the 2Fiddy next Summer if I break it? I know I bought a Rotor Riot 5" and 3 months later the exact motors were no longer available. I had to get 4 new motors (more common brand and KV) and it cost me about $100 and I have 3 Rotor Riot motors that will not really work with anything else I own. I would say if I buy the 2Fiddy I will buy as many spare parts as I can find right now.