Really glad to see you use shims all the way around the voice coil. Some believe three is enough but the more you use the better the overall alignment and consistency of the clearance through the full voice coil excursion.
@sudhirsumongkol89726 жыл бұрын
Back in Thailand, we use (developed) film for shims and it works quite well. You can see it all the times on the streets around "Ban Moh" area in Bangkok.
@briandeitz82092 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is one of my fav parts.
@bamper4206910 жыл бұрын
@Jay B You do realize that this is a loudspeaker not a car sub woofer, also you must not know that this is rated at 123db continuous and it is extremely unlikely you can find a replacement 10 inch capable of that for 100 dollars.
@nightrous30267 жыл бұрын
bamper42069 i mean... i got a rockford fosgate P2 in great and usable condition at a yardsale for only $10...
@MisterJohnMorales11 жыл бұрын
Clearly you are a person of incredible skill as you repaired that speaker rather effortlessly, making no mistake, doing each step perfectly (please no need for modesty). What I'd love to know is how many people inspired by how you made it look so simple gave it a try and simply destroyed what they were working on, because it's more than just knowing what to do, it's knowing how to do what you are doing extremely well. Great video, regardless!
@jeffslttn39137 жыл бұрын
As a PRO live sound technician with roughly 40 years of experience, I have to agree with the pro audio vs car subwoofer comments. This is a PRO audio driver -- a completely different animal than a CAR subwoofer. A car audio enthusiast criticizing this speaker is like a motorcyclist criticizing a football helmet! I have no disrespect for car audio enthusiasts, bassheads, or whatever they want to be called; if you're having fun, then have at it! However, the vast majority of these "professionals" wouldn't have a CLUE what to do if they sat down behind a console and a rack of amps and processors! Quite frankly, regardless of my pro audio experience, if I wanted an efficient, powerful subwoofer in my car, I would probably get a basshead to help me build it.
@haggard3166 жыл бұрын
I would just go back to the local audio store and buy another 12 inch JL Audio Subwoofer.
@strawsparky335 жыл бұрын
@@hudsonhayer9376 look whos talking. You replied to this dudes comment 2 years after he made it. Lol. Get a life.
@JamesBond-oc4gm5 жыл бұрын
@@hudsonhayer9376 *you're Edited "your" comment but still showing ignorance either way
@maniacalmango10 жыл бұрын
Best how to video I've seen for this topic.
@ExStaticBass11 жыл бұрын
This is quite possibly one of the best videos I've seen on re-coning a driver so far. I have a set of Behringer VP2520 cabs that are rated for 2000 watts. In reality the drivers are rated for 250 watts RMS and are wired in parallel. Assuming the rating on the cabinet was correct I drove them at 1000 watts which has noticeably damaged the motors. I'll be doing this same thing 4 times fairly soon. Thanks for the great video. Keep up the good work.
@northwestcustoms66636 жыл бұрын
Funny how some ppl say they would just go buy a new one. There is some satisfaction in repairing something. That would be like buying a new car because the motor or trans blew in it. If you have some skills and knowledge why not save a few bucks. Seems like smart money to me. I repaired my Cerwin Vega subs and they work like new.
@krombopulosmichael64458 жыл бұрын
I've got to say you did such a great professional job. I've watched couple of these and every other doesn't compare to the job you did. I hope you get paid well for jobs like these buddy ;)
@barrettalen6 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@marktubeie0713 жыл бұрын
You know, I have never seen a speaker refit before. Kinda wants me to give it a go. Great video, couldn't take my eyes off the procedure for one moment !
@stevenA448 жыл бұрын
Other than the conehat silliness, you did a very professional video! Nice job.
@karaslaten73369 жыл бұрын
very nice methodical repair. Thanks for sharing. The teenager comments in here are hilarious.
@yoshi1u29 жыл бұрын
Its called re-coning sub-woofer
@nightrous30267 жыл бұрын
Yoshi1u2 huh... i re-cone it is
@SilasHemmingway4 жыл бұрын
Can an ice cream be re-coned if needed? I accidentally dropped mine. :(
@Dina0wnes11 жыл бұрын
the "basket" is the metal part of a speaker. The part he replaced is the cone and voice coil from a "Re-cone kit". Cheaper subs do NOT have re-cone kits for them.
@alwaysopen79706 жыл бұрын
Not a car sub.
@applefanboy17704 жыл бұрын
thanks Stigen THANKS STIGEN!!!
@SaraInItaly149 жыл бұрын
Hi..nice vid..I hv a lil problem with my PD 1851/2...yes I blew it with the amp...now,,I hv already ordered the recone kit which is arnd 150euros, but the expected delivery date is more than a month away..I cant go on a whole month without it..so I just called a tech who does recoiling,,according to him it'll take only 3 days to get it fixed and runnin...pls tell me what are cons of recoiling..I've heard that it will never be the same as the original after recoiling... Thank you
@DKmhun10 жыл бұрын
Nice work man! You have enough patience. :)
@samanthaeckhardt30707 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job! Great Teacher also. I like the detailed information. That was very helpful. Thank You.
@th3unn3rv3d310 жыл бұрын
Ya'll seem to think this is a car subwoofer. Its a woofer for a cabinet. I know, ya'll are ignorant, it's okay.
@nalayoun993310 жыл бұрын
What types of glue to use? Where to purchase the Glue and foam surrounds? I have 5 15", 5 12 inch, and several other smaller size speakers to replace surrounds. In my older wood cabinet floor stereo speakers. Thank You
@echolectricstudios28704 жыл бұрын
Where did you order this basket from. I need to do this for my 15” 8 ohm black widow speaker for my peavey bass cab but everything I keep finding online comes with the basket frame/cage. Please send me a link to where I might be able to purchase what I need. You are much appreciated in advance.
@karlsonkab519 жыл бұрын
would Weldbond work and hold up for the surround and spider? - how about Scotchbrite to clean the basket?
@IAmLeutrimTopalli11 жыл бұрын
318$ for that piece of shit? turbo sound lmao
@aerialwheel371910 жыл бұрын
its a hi fidelity speaker. you dont really see the value in parts and design. its more of an integral electrical componenent that is finely tuned by expert engineers. whenever you hear live music, its most likely through paper speakers with a cloth or paper surround.
@sergejnadazdin22348 жыл бұрын
everyone is talking that your speaker is piece of junk.well i say that your woofer will be GOLD for me!i only have those moor small speakers
@AmIonArock8 жыл бұрын
Quick story and a question for you, I bought two vintage Jensen 6X9 speakers. Using a multimeter one of the speakers was fine, the other I couldn't get a reading anywhere but when I hooked it up to a small amp, there was a small delay and then miraculously sizzled back to life, but with a coil rub sound. Is it possible that if speaker was blown before might have caused a short, fooling a my multimeter?
@sergejnadazdin22348 жыл бұрын
holy hell that's big and for really good sound and excursion
@2bond0075 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I bought the kit for my brother on his sequoia, works great!!
@mikewalker33377 жыл бұрын
Thanks...I especially like "Speaker Cine-head" as a reminder that a blown speaker is nothing to laugh about. LOL
@mikeguitarification10 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us where you got the replacement parts from? Thanks.
@takenoshortcuts4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. You obviously have a lot of practice. Anybody want my my teenager to live with them?
@Bednar1218 жыл бұрын
I love when someone is speeding up the video, and talking in the same time :D It sounds like "gaah-buh-dih-bee-dab beeh-upf-geeb-deeb-ap-duh" :D
@ltldevl8 жыл бұрын
Everyone talking shit about him repairing that speaker should keep their comments to themselves. Obviously you know nothing about speakers. It is a PA speaker. I don't know about the new Turbosound speakers since they were bought out, but the older ones were quite good. This is a loudspeaker, not a subwoofer. You probably don't even know what a quality subwoofer is either.
@charliearroyo48097 жыл бұрын
ltldevl the original owner bailed before it failed.
@djkobi20206 жыл бұрын
ltldevl
@earcandyengineering63897 жыл бұрын
From the Tower Beacon by the door and a few other old pieces of equipment, it would appear you are a Broadcast Engineer or at least a radio fan. Enjoyed the video.
@medikate82776 жыл бұрын
Cool video. So the dust cap is it necessary for the performance of the speaker overall? I know dust isn't good for the coil but will a speaker still work the same without the dust cover?
@jrcstudios380311 жыл бұрын
well, I definitely tore up my share of speakers in the past! Practice makes perfect with anything. I encourage anyone with skilled hands to try, but maybe with a cheaper speaker first!
@CarlosGonzalez-bg1my5 жыл бұрын
wow, great video, thanks, need to repair my ar3 a woofer and ar lst woofer. Both must be blown because they don't put out sound any longer. Thanks again
@Stonesmithable8 жыл бұрын
Great video . I have a 10" Precision Power flat piston sub that is blown. That crunchy sound when pressed on is terrible. This sub is HEAVY and I know its high quality, but how different would the repair be?
@blackbird12341008 жыл бұрын
probably not too different
@blackbird12341008 жыл бұрын
probably not too different
@TimpBizkit10 жыл бұрын
I'm probably going to have to do the same to an Eminence 3012lf after not using a high pass on a loud bedroom testing. Coil is probably fine as it was nowhere near its thermal limit, but voice coil is slightly dented from hitting the back and it rubs.
@buckyflex16 жыл бұрын
I thought the "basket" was the metal frame that holds the magnet and what u attach the surround to. Isn't what he bought a re-cone kit?
@xXjaviervillegasXx9 жыл бұрын
Where could I mount a crunch 800 watt Small amp in My 98 Ford f150 Extended cab , Don't have room under the backseat , Bought the Sub box For that . Now I have no clue where to place the amp .
@jakeb26189 жыл бұрын
Mount it upside down under the dash on the passenger side. Or you could remove the glove compartment and place it there
@clubcar9813 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. And a lot better than $300 for a whole new speaker!
@ronaldsantosjapan10 жыл бұрын
Is the new one black because of some kind of anti-friction coating of some sort?
@evealehkz39436 жыл бұрын
I have some desktop speakers I love with all my life. I mistakenly plugged in the wrong power chord and blew out my speaker. The port is fine but it blew the speaker and is like to replace it. What do y'all recommend? I'm trying to fix my grey Yamaha desktop speakers ive had since 1998. Any help is much appreciated.
@Scioneer7 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at all these "car woofer heads" calling that a crap speaker because it has a lower XMAX than a comparable car woofer. This speaker is designed for midbass in a high volume setting with a very large enclosure possibly with some kind of horn loading involved. Car woofers are designed for smaller enclosures and use higher wattage amplifiers to make up for the lack of acoustics said smaller enclosures have. This speaker would own a car woofer in an efficiency rating test, accuracy test, and longevity test. This is a professional audio woofer, not some overpriced toy designed to advertise to all the thugs in the area to bust out your vehicle's glass and steal your system for a quick buck.
@charliearroyo48097 жыл бұрын
Scioneer where did I say car woofer? Those two words never mentioned by me until now. Now it being a PA speaker then it is only good for voices nothing else. I have quality sound in my home and car. No has taken anything from either place.
@A_Goat7 жыл бұрын
"No has taken"? ^
@alwaysopen79706 жыл бұрын
Only good for what? Little do you know of PA systems.
@LordNorfick8 жыл бұрын
I have a question, so I bought some kmd se15-150 speakers 8ohms/150w and I have a pa system Sr - 6100 mixer amp I checked the fuse it's not blood but on the speakers sometimes the subwoofers won't make a sound but sound comes from the top part but not the bass part of it, so are they bad is there a bad connection they worked fine earlier but now that aren't. Unless I shake them lol then the sound lasts until I move them again I checked the cables swinging them around and the sound stays the same so I think the cables are good I also tried multiple different ones same situation I just need some help figuring this out.
@Bluesr0cker9 жыл бұрын
you don't unblow the speaker, you just threw it away, you kept the "bracket" and installed a new speaker -_-
@HunterMcNew9 жыл бұрын
For less money than buying a whole new speaker.
@Bluesr0cker9 жыл бұрын
Hunter McNew thus the title should be: how to fix your speaker cheap..
@MrNDog189 жыл бұрын
You keep the basket and the motor structure. It is called reconing a speaker. not unbolwing. For the speaker that he reconed it probably wasn't worth it. I have a $400 15" and the recone cost $190.
@user-uk5cu4vw7o9 жыл бұрын
Bluesr0cker well done professor...
@Bluesr0cker9 жыл бұрын
yea,, that's what I said...
@allritythen9 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Some people man...who cares what the title is. I knew exactly what he was talking about. My question is, Did the glue you use come with the repair Kit? if not what two types of glue are you using? Does anyone know what glue he used?
@Wetstriker8 жыл бұрын
Go to a model/hobby shop and get some CA glue. eBay has some nice stuff for $13. Don't listen to the haters.
@nuckelheddjones65028 жыл бұрын
+Wet Striker Hopefully he won't listen to you. CA glue is completely the WRONG stuff to us. I suggest you stop sniffing your glue in the future.
@quadrunner21248 жыл бұрын
+Nuckelhedd Jones Can you provide the correct product?
@alwaysopen79706 жыл бұрын
Good kits supply it or the vendor will suggest some.
@philsouthus16 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reasonable reply, Iam going to try this for the first time.
@AXOU220311 жыл бұрын
Very nice work ! Except for the choice of music. But instructive. What are those shime (? time) here to do ?
@ronplucksstrings71128 жыл бұрын
OK video, BUT...using steel wool (to clean glue residue off) around that strong magnet is way baaaad, and NOT recommended...if ANY even tiny particles get sucked up and into the voice-coil area, they will be difficult, if not impossible to remove, and all of your work is for nothing when they make contact with the voice-coil. I'd also vacuum out debris from voice-coil area, not just blow it around (but sticky paper was a good idea!)
@sellsubz6 жыл бұрын
Ronplucksstrings You know your stuff Ron. Steel Wool would be about the last thing you want around that magnet structure. Undoubtedly some fibers will make their way into the VC slot and near impossible to remove and certainly no fun. Vacuuming as well should be done in the cleaning process. In the end the woofer was re-coned and seemingly working properly. With more practice some of the sloppiness will probably improve.
@ppdan7 жыл бұрын
1:24 This is big reconing mistake when gluing the spider. You should only press down on the glue area to avoid putting some lateral tension that could de-center the coil once you remove the shims. When gluing the dust cap put a weight (coffee mug or glass) before pouring the glue around. This will prevent glue from running past the dust cap onto your voice coil. After reconing a LF woofer an extensive speaker burn-in might be welcome. Nice job ;)
@johnnycee51793 жыл бұрын
The basket, magnet and caps were all that was left. That's not unblowing, it's rebuilding. I personally found it very interesting to see this done. There was wait time for the glue to dry too. That was a 15"? This rebuild was worth the work done because I think 12 and 15" speakers aren't being built anymore or close to it, from what I have read. I just had 2 dust covers replaced on my Pioneers and new caps installed on one of them and they are 12" woofers, buying an active 1000 watt sub to accompany them will help them, so I did and that is a 12" as well, lol, wall shakers.
@skydyverjym Жыл бұрын
Rebuilding is the definition of unblowing. That is an 18 inch sub
@johnnycee5179 Жыл бұрын
@@skydyverjym 18 inch! That's huge. Unblowing same as rebuilding, never heard that before
@skydyverjym Жыл бұрын
@@johnnycee5179 granted, I'm not as experienced as the vast majority, but once a speaker is blown, it's trash. Or you can rebuild it like here. Somebody correct me me if I'm wrong. If the cone is shot but the coil is still good it can be rigged, repaired kinda, repaired, or repurposed altogether into a vibration exciter or a bass shaker and I don't know what else. KZbin dml or flat panel speaker and bass shaker diy if you haven't already, they're awesome. But he said and demonstrated here the coil was very very shot. Only way to fix that that I know of is re-cone it like he did here
@skydyverjym Жыл бұрын
@@johnnycee5179 oh yeah, and KZbin 21 inch, 33 inch, and the latest and greatest 80 inch subwoofer. Yes, that's correct, 6 foot, 2 meter diameter subwoofer. It lifts the room built around it
@hi-friaudioman8 жыл бұрын
heating the adhered components helps make removal easier too.
@bryanp48274 жыл бұрын
Un-Blowing....LMFAO! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@jeffslttn39137 жыл бұрын
Virtually all high-end pro audio subs have a removable magnet for maintenance/reconing. Remove the magnet, THEN clean the gap. It's a hell of a lot more thorough. If you miss just one tiny crumb of copper, piece of steel wool, or melted enamel, then it's just a matter of time before it gets wedged into the gap and destroys the voice coil...
@CassetteMaster13 жыл бұрын
Very nice job and funny to see all the high speed with the normal-pitch audio. Especially when it's extra fast and I hear your voice, but it is so fast it is unintelligible. I also recognized that room you were in, with the Fisher radio and amp, speakers and 8-track player, and the Superscope cassette recorder with no cassette door and corroded battery compartment!
@carlosalvarez11247 жыл бұрын
Good video man, is good to see people using manual skills and being funny (chinese hat !!)
@GatoradeAndTigers10 жыл бұрын
Coolest thing I've seen all day
@duanewhite31845 жыл бұрын
Do you do that all the time I have a cerwin Vega 15 that I bought and found out that I have to replace it because it is blown up
@raskalthefirst6 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Btw you have a bit of distortion on the end of the vid, a trick I used at raves when making videos is to cover my phones mic with my vingers, muffles the bass away enough to keep everything crystal and audible ;)
@Bbendfender10 жыл бұрын
Unblowing! Why don't you call this a speaker recone?
@MothBird11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tut, what was that test song you used?
@MicSokol9 жыл бұрын
Nice job, though to me the shape of the old membrane looked pretty decent. I would just recoil it and keep that 100 dollars.
@tunnelportterror8 жыл бұрын
hey I see 8-track tapes in the background on the floor- awesome.
@mjbarfield10 жыл бұрын
always tin both the wire and the terminal before starting to solder together just a little tip
@95TurboSol11 жыл бұрын
I have a question, I noticed my subs (2 8in jl audio subs in a stealthbox) didn't sound right, it was lacking bass it used to have and sounded kinda rough, so I took the box out and found that the foam surround on one of the subs was completely detached and all ripped, so I figured it was blown, but I turned my stereo on and to my surprise it was still working and sounded close to normal but will less bass/ sounded loose and when I press down evenly on the cone it doesn't scrape, is it fixable?
@tyttuut10 жыл бұрын
If your speaker is about to blow, take a video of it. Play the video backwards and you'll have a good speaker! Presented by Troll Physics.
@philsouthus16 жыл бұрын
its way easier to use the time machine
@theoneandonlyhere4 жыл бұрын
It worked for me. Thank you so much
@bigchris7538 жыл бұрын
what kind of glue is that? and thanks for sharing the how to knowledge.... :)
@mattmoreira2109 жыл бұрын
This brand wants to be "stylish" even with the part of the speaker you'll almost never see: the voicecoil. They go to all the trouble of painting it black... Nice! :D
@brucewrigleysgumchewz46679 жыл бұрын
Pain in the ass! Using enough shims and getting the coil centered perfectly isn't always easy. I've fixed speakers where it moved in and out fine but as soon as some bass got to it, it started scratching inside again.
@mb3gee10 жыл бұрын
where did you buy replacement kit? have a link?
@mikeguitarification10 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be very helpful, information on where you got your replacement parts. Thanks.
@fhs_darius9533 жыл бұрын
Me:black voice coil my fav uncolor Him: *INTENSE SNIFF*
@blackbird12341008 жыл бұрын
hey I use rain x to get the glue and foam off. it's denatured alcohol, so it works great
@dalanwanbdiska65424 жыл бұрын
I bought a box with 2 phoenix gold 12inch subs in a sealed double box for 50. I knew the price was too good to be true, 1 blown subwoofer that would not move at all because of blown voice coil. Need some info . Maybe ill just buy a new one.
@denttech25156 жыл бұрын
Frequency response is a much more costly engineering science than SPL (decibel). For many reasons, pro audio is a superior technology. One recording studio can cost MILLIONS!!! Live venues can be astonishing. There is a reason for that. Car audio is only replaying what pro audio created in the first place. You can't compare the 2
@jdawggaming929710 жыл бұрын
Crap dude you almost made me fall asleep
@tangofizz774 жыл бұрын
This was great!
@charleswittmore99029 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the knowledge !
@benmeyer291610 жыл бұрын
Damn what torturous pain did you put that speaker through. Usually I'll see coper wire that looks black to me
@darkside5910 жыл бұрын
I'd just done a recone on my Sundown Audio SA8v2 sub and I can tell you that is was a pain in the butt to recone. It's not a hard job, but being a little 8in sub with a heavy ass magnet and the way the basket/frame is made. It leave you with little room to do the reconing. But overall, reconing a sub is a fairly easy task to do and is cheaper than buying a new sub. You just need proper tools.
@coltricketts74269 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy a cone kit at????
@darkside599 жыл бұрын
Colt Ricketts for sundown audio. I get it straight from Sundown. For custom recone, I'll suggest fixmyspeaker.com or partexpreas.com. Fix my speaker is usually for people that competes and want custom made recone while parts express, they have replacement recone and parts for just about any subs or speakers out there.
@HarmonicaMustang10 жыл бұрын
If you have the time and it comes out properly cheaper (I'm not talking about saving $5) then it's cool. Nothing gives the satisfaction quite like having something work that you have built/fixed. Otherwise it's not really worth it. My friend wanted me to re-cone a pair of JVC UX-B1005's. That's a bit ridiculous.
@TempoDrift14806 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not explaining how to scrape a gasket off a speaker basket. Some videos seem like they're geared towards people who can't even tie their shoes and it makes it very difficult to watch. I've don't this over 50 and I don't even know why I watch but...
@YourLocalHandyMatt8 жыл бұрын
great video. enjoyed watching it.
@DoNaSbaR2 жыл бұрын
A nice work but…The cone was good. The spider was good. The only thing that was damage was the voice coil and this was the only thing that needed to be replaced.
@mrwolfe081210 жыл бұрын
Thats an old school looking amp you have, how old is it?
@rustytrident82824 жыл бұрын
Yeah ill just buy another one😅
@abdulsattartairy23993 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll just buy 2
@firedog2k911 жыл бұрын
tip, if your going to fast forward through the parts where you talk, could you put some sub-titles or something? that would help a lot, GREAT video BTW.
@montanaeaglescout8 жыл бұрын
Could have made two videos form this! I would have watched both...
@bluxnosx53343 жыл бұрын
Pro audio system just have me excited they looked a little shit on the build quality side so why so expensive
@Jdmlsturbo5 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 12” kicker comp, when I turn it upside down, I hear something loose? Drop? Somethings loose inside...the cone moves up and down, it’s not stiff or stuck.... Any ideas?
@darinschoenrock7985 жыл бұрын
Is it the subwoofer alone or the sub and enclosure? If it's a vented enclosure it wouldn't be too surprising that something got into the enclosure through the vent
@Jdmlsturbo5 жыл бұрын
Darin Schoenrock if I look from the back on the magnet like how this videos starts, the hole in the Center, if I look through it, I see a Mesh, I’m starting to assume that mesh was acting as a filter, inside the magnet, if you look from the back side.
@darinschoenrock7985 жыл бұрын
Strange
@ZipSnipe10 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanx for posting
@skydyverjym Жыл бұрын
I hope Joe grew up loving music
@arifshingjergji19699 жыл бұрын
I like your work
@christayah7 жыл бұрын
this was fun to watch and the guy did a great job but all this to save $200 😫😫😫😫
@juanrabie67123 жыл бұрын
Name of the song at the end please
@dingdingalingthecat49249 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video; your funny to watch
@drewbondy941410 жыл бұрын
Duck Sauce, Barbra Streisand xD
@Immortal_13338 жыл бұрын
Do they have kits to fix kicker l7
@keithsanders17818 жыл бұрын
that was a cool ending LOL
@TheXbloke9 жыл бұрын
Barbara streisand, lol love this song
@95TurboSol11 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I just ordered and foam kit, thanks man.
@suhy98619 жыл бұрын
What if the outer membrane broke or got ripped when screwing a logitec z323 back into the box to see how big it was
@suhy98619 жыл бұрын
I just bought the system yesterday someone please respond asap and what do i do with the 2 year warranty