Unboxing The ZSA Moonlander Programmable Keyboard

[@thelimatheou]

Had my Moonlander for about 4 months now - absolutely love it. Expensive, but worth it if you spend a lot of time on the keyboard. One of the best time-saving tips is to map a key to keyboard reset - that way you can hold down the key to enable the layer that has your reset key, then push the button. Saves a heap of time when you're first setting up and re-flashing a lot.

[@atemoc]

I spend a LOT of time writing stuff on my computer, heck, I even created (and is still creating, because it never stops) my own language, and oh boy would I like to get a Moonlander, but I don't have enough spare money to afford one when getting the bills paid is already hard enough Once I'll have enough to the side tho, I'll get one, tried one that one of my friend has, it's absolutely awesome, and, weirdly enough, I don't seem to struggle quite as much as many people to switch to these kinds of keyboards

[@michamieszczak8702]

I considered buying a moonlander, but eventually bought a 3D printer and built a Redox keyboard at a similar price

[@blambi_]

Another redox user here, would not want a bigger thumb cluster.

[@ThatDudeJCrash]

How much was the 3d printer

[@michamieszczak8702]

@@ThatDudeJCrash I got an Ender 3 for something like $200.

[@SebastiaanAndeweg]

Yesterday I watched stuff about the Moonlander and then KZbin said: hey, DT has a Ergodox too, so watched that. I even looked around your channel, because it would be nice to hear your views on the Moonlander as well. And here it is! Thanks DT!

[@echonuim]

I got mine back in january, and it is friggen fantastic

[@charleshuff88]

Hell yeah brother, just received my Moonlander in the mail! Immediately broke it by over torquing the left thumb pad screw. It’s reverse threaded, super good to know. Zsa has excellent customer support btw.

[@edakimling133]

It seems you are not the only one. I feel this may be a weak spot of the keyboard. It has happened to another youtuber. For those considering the moonlander, do realize the screwing of the thumb cluster is opposite direction to the other legs. This is by design, so that when you put weight on the thumb cluster, it does not unscrew.

[@alphabennyrosy5068]

CLI always saves the day 😂. ❤️ you cli.

[@WildWestDesigns]

Been using the Ergo for about 1.5 yrs and I love it.

[@slowcreep6978]

I really wanted to purchase one of these before learning that you owned one. Thanks for this video.

[@DistroTube]

Yea, I had been debating this purchase for awhile. I finally decided to purchase it. I'll save the receipt as a tax write off. :D

[@wo0o0ofer]

@@DistroTube how did u get it in 1 week?? I ordered it 3 weeks ago still waiting ☠️

[@khosrawazizi]

Petition for DT to make an unboxing channel! UnboxTube???

[@realmwatters2977]

iNTERESTING i LIKE MORE OF THIS KIND OF REVIEW!

[@cheezman111]

Very cool! I also got the copper switches when I ordered my planck from zsa. It'd be great to also see a review after a few weeks of using your new moonlander!

[@DistroTube]

Will do!

[@edakimling133]

@@DistroTube I second that. After you have had some time to use it, please make a video - even if brief, letting us know what you liked, what you did not like. Especially valuable I think would be comparison to the ergodox. There are very few videos out there comparing the two. Some exist, but they compare it from a build perspective, not usage perspective. I do think there are important differences between the two keyboards and the moonlander definitely might not be a better fit for some people. Seeing they are the same price, it is hard for folks to decide which one to buy. Cheers!

[@koto1538]

I've had my Moonlander for ergonomic reasons and I love it. I've had it about a 2 months and I'm still getting used to it. But I also decided the change in keyboard would be a good time to switch to DVORAK. It's a tough transition but because i dont type perfectly on a standard QWERTY I'm learning to type from scratch with the Moonlander and building up better habits. But the Moonlander it's self is Awesome. and so powerful. 100% customizable. Pretty much infinite possibilities. I don't have an issue with the reaching the lower Thumb keys, so it might be a hand size thing. I know on their site they recommend people with smaller hands tilt the thumb clusters up rather than down but that removes the tenting ability. There is 3d printed options available for having the tending without using the thumb cluster as a support, and I believe they're working on another solution for this.

[@blank001]

I was just checking this keyboard like yesterday, as I am spending more and more time on PC I am considering buying it.

[@Phydoux2112]

I like it. It's a tad too expensive though at the moment. Maybe one day I'll get either this or the Ergodox.

[@alpacamale2909]

I moved from staggered keyboards and let me tell you the ability to have a numpad wherever you want is amazing. it's nice that ortholinear keyboards are getting so much love. BTW youtuber Ben Vallack has several good videos about this keyboard

[@BenVallack]

@Alpaca Male Thanks for the shout out!

[@edakimling133]

I agree, Ben is like a keyboard scientist. He really makes quality videos and goes deep int explaining the rationale behind his setups and opinions. If you are serious about mechanical keyboards, you need to watch his videos. Even though I do not use an iPad (linux only for me) I particularly liked Ben's video where he challenges the notion to make an ipad a productive piece of hardware and his journey to make that happen with a mechanic programmable keyboard. You will honestly learn a lot watching his videos. There is a reason why the company behind moonlander chose to put Ben's videos on their website...

[@ArnaudMEURET]

CLI FTW 🙌🏻. Also yes the moon lander is cute but I still think the palm keys of the Keyboardio Model 1 and 100 are unmatched

[@l.s.2700]

This guys needs 1 power plant just for his recording setup.

[@PHNX_RSN]

I feel the same way. It is hard to go back. You never want to.

[@bobkoss280]

Good enough for DT, good enough for me. Ordering now.

[@nathannjh]

Split for life, I have a lily58 and a Corne Keyboard. Normal keyboard will never do it for me ever again.

[@nathannjh]

I feel like you would like qmk keyboards.

[@TheSuperTaras]

Corne is best keyboard

[@nathannjh]

@@TheSuperTaras I game on my lily, and use Corne for everything else.

[@netbin]

10:12 is that the speed you actually type your config files? omg

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

The thing that makes me want to try ergos the most is the fact that you actually use your thumbs for more than one thing. It's ridiculous that conventional keyboards only use both thumbs exclusively for the space bar. Meanwhile people are getting bad cases of Emacs pinky. It's less bad for me, because I add a modifier to it and problem solved, but still, with the ergo designs your thumbs can easily do two or three things EACH. And that's without doing two things with one key (one for pressing, one for holding).

[@technologicalwaste7612]

The thumb is the most powerful finger, but extremely undervalued.

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@technologicalwaste7612 Yes. Not used nearly enough. And from what I hear, to make things worse, it seems like people don't use the alt keys with their thumbs (they say that super is easier to use, so I can only assume that), and to me that's just bizarre. It's the easiest modifier to use, in standard layouts, if you use your thumbs, but somehow people don't use it. And if you can change your layout, you can make one of the alts be something else too. And you can make them do different things when pressed.

[@SoundToxin]

Once you use some of these more interesting keyboards, it starts to seem absurd that the spacebar is so huge on traditional boards. 6.25u usually. I use a Pinky4 where all the keys are 1u and I have 4 thumb keys per half. It avoids a lot of wear and tear on my pinkies by letting me hit ctrl, alt, super, and so on with my thumbs.

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

@@SoundToxin Even keeping the same overall layout but splitting the space bar would be a big improvement (I only haven't done it when I built mine because I was trying to save money and didn't feel like buying additional keycaps). It's absolutely insane that something as useful as Backspace is so far away from everything else. Even Enter is kinda annoying (I have an ANSI Enter, which is easier to use while typing, but still would be better as a thumb key). The Caps Lock key is particularly ridiculous. It's so useless that I don't even have one, and it's in the best possible position for a pinky modifier. Here it's Ctrl and Esc, basically a key for everything Vim. And damn, the Pinky4 PCB is actually not that expensive. I don't know if it existed when I built my keyboard, but if it did and I could go back, I definitely would have bought that instead. It would be nice to just get a good PCB and build my own case out of plastic and a metal frame (so it's light and very robust), but I don't have the equipment and resources to do that right now unfortunately. Maybe later on if I live that long.

[@edakimling133]

To say nothing of the 32 layers for the ergodox/moonlander or the multiple ways each key can be programmed as a modifier (ex: tap, tap+hold, double tap, hold). At this point, only your imagination is the limit. Your keyboard can be programmed to the n'th degree...

[@Pepperpot666]

Allthough I really love my 8 year old ducky-keyboard, I would love to try such a split keyboard. It is way too expensive though just in case i don't like it.

[@alphaomega4434]

I built me a lily58pro and a wood case a few months back. Have to use a regular layout every now and again feels like I have to break my wrists to type lol. Splits all the way

[@45531]

I would never switch back from my lily58l Where did you get the wood-Case?

[@alphaomega4434]

@@45531 Right !? And the case I made myself from an oak stair step, I used an ergodox wrist wrest as one piece for Each side. There’s a website that sells them all different kinds I draw a blank on what it’s called atm but I had problems with their website to actually order it so I ended up making it myself

[@vlmath314]

I also had the "issue" with the non-recognized reset button on Debian: the solution was to install "libusb-dev", add the udev rule file ("/etc/udev/rules.d/50-wally.rules) and add my user to the correct user group (plugdev) as described on github.

[@patjustpat8178]

Bought this $350 keyboard so that it fits my $40 desk

[@julianfranco7689]

No dice on Ubuntu as well. The same thing happens with the GUI version of Wally. The cli now asks for the reset as well and gets stuck. I'm really hyped with this keyboard but the default layout is less than ideal and Ubuntu users can't flash it and the github issues related to this have been deleted from the wally repo.

[@1alloftheabove]

If you run wally as a super user it recognizes the keyboard.

[@ViniciusProvenzano]

It’s around one year I am thinking about spending the money on the Moonlander. Meanwhile I started playing with 40% and other ortholinear keyboards, and I love those. After your video, the moonlander bug is biting again...

[@zacharystreeter1965]

I'll never leave my Kinesis Advantage

[@praetorxyn]

For that price they should be offering like... Zealios V2 switches. That's what I use in my custom board.

[@bobgrimes8618]

I still use and love my IBM Model M classic keyboard.

[@old_geeky_Michael]

Thanks DT, been considering laying the money on one of these (if they ship to the UK, etc.). Do you touch type? Or are you a 4-finger warrior? I wonder what difference that makes, if any.

[@chlorosokita596]

Planck user here. I think I'll still get myself an Ergodox some day. Let me first build my PC.

[@liam3491]

That's one drastic switch. Reckon it will be a lot better for your wrists though!

[@fedotnetot3876]

Moonlander is the best keyboard by far.

[@Charsh392]

$365? Im about ready to close this video :(

[@CYB3Rsynth]

DT. Baby. Get a monitor arm my dude lol

[@lazerlord_lance]

I've been wondering about how your Audio Setup works, because I've been noticing that the main level on your rack mixer hits the orange/red territory on a regular basis Are you actually using the main out from that mixer? Or are you taking the signal from somewhere else and that particular level indicator is just for aesthetic purposes?

[@adriengui2646]

Very nice mouse price to keyboard price ratio !

[@tobiasz0090]

Finally i be been looking to buy this keyboard but haven't really seen any comprehensive review, will you make something like that in a while?

[@DistroTube]

That's the plan!

[@tobiasz0090]

@@DistroTube thank you for your work has me really helped to go into open source software, and tech like this in general. I am looking forward for future videos

[@edakimling133]

You need to watch Ben's videos - he really does many comprehensive videos on the topic.

[@tobiasz0090]

@@edakimling133 yeah he does a great job, so thank you for the recommendation and i already seen some, it's nice to see multiple review's from people that actually use it on a daily basis. The more the better. Damm if only it weren't that expensive...

[@edakimling133]

@@tobiasz0090 You think $365 is bad....for us Canadians, it is very close to $500 + duty....and the kicker? The makers of this keyboard - a Canadian company! ;)

[@joaopedrobattistellanadas5113]

There is a cli version of wally. It's even in the AUR.

[@joaopedrobattistellanadas5113]

It seems I should watch the whole video before posting a comment. 🤦‍♂️

[@Eliotime3000]

I hope that this splitted keyboard haves an ISO layout variant.

[@thelimatheou]

The layout is whatever you want it to be - that's one of the benefits.

[@edakimling133]

You can have 32 layers at the same time if you wish...

[@an93lofdeath]

I have a moonlander, I got it at Christmas. I love it, the best keyboard I've ever had. I'm surprised you don't use a trackball mouse lol.

[@edakimling133]

Do you find a trackball muc better than a mouse? Could you describe why? I am curious

[@an93lofdeath]

@@edakimling133 it is better for my wrists and general comfort when doing normal tasks but for gaming it has to be a mouse for me.

[@mohamedhaseeb5325]

If faced a problem flashing your keyboard using ZSA's wally, try running wally as root.

[@bogdanlupu3679]

Cli is always God

[@fahimzahir9587]

Decided to get one after intense shoulder pain from not being able to write shoulder width.

[@AMoralMan]

It's it just me or is DT's excited showing. 😁 Congrats

[@brunoribaric9683]

Star the repo!

[@censoredterminalautism4073]

The fact that the switches are exposed on the sides makes it look unfinished. Pretty bad. I would like to try something like the ErgoDox, though. Very curious about that, but it is really expensive. Maybe I can get a used one at some point just to see if I like it, and then if I don't I can sell it. Maybe try someone else's if I find myself in a place inhabited by actual sentient humans that do things beyond following a very simple script provided by their TVs and pretending very badly to be human. If I don't like it, then one of those new Model Fs would be the best choice.

[@thundreturtle]

TTY works even better :D

[@PinakiGupta82Appu]

Very good keyboard.

[@argonnath2]

Is there support for other language keyboards, such as Scandinavian layout?

[@edakimling133]

The thing to understand here is that 'layout' is the name of the game for these type of keyboards. You can rearrange the layout any way you wish with their excellent online configurator. So the answer is yes. As well, if you do not look on your keyboard, you can take advantage of the 'layers' and program multiple layers - so you could have 1 for scandinavian, another for english...and switch between them rapidly and with ease. You can program up to 32!!! layers. So you could have layers just for numpad, or for specific apps, or games, etc. Or full fledged re-programming of all the keys, like I already mentioned. Of course the keycaps could physically only be re-arranged for one layout...

[@gh0stcloud499]

Shame the arch packages don’t work. I guess as a work around you could spin up an Ubuntu flavour in a VM and use that?

[@jacobtb1]

sweet ride

[@valrex7578]

Hi DT, the audio is bit out of sync, other than that good vid !

[@totally_not_a_troll]

Meh, CLI is better any way, so that's not a major loss. Great that it exists tho, open source community is amazing. The way I use split keyboards in the past (I want to buy moonlander for work, get into dovrak, add some macros) is that I keep the right keyboard where people usually keep the mouse, so that my shoulders and arms are strait, no inward angle. I also keep the keyboard columns perpendicular to the table - again, no inward angles. Then I put the mouse in the middle. Yeah, it takes a bit to get used to, but then I also use total commander and terminals, so not that much mouse movement. When I program, I usually stick with page up / down, and keyboard shortcuts for navigating files. CAN'T WAIT: * to have ctrl + alt + shift on a macro * to have shift on index or thumb instead of pinky * to not do much with the pinky in general (maybe switch profiles and nothing else) Everything else is just flavoring. Removing pinky from the equation and having *software* dovrak so that I'm using both hands equally is the bestest.

[@RitzyBusiness]

I to prefer a arm rest, but in my experience typing feel(properties of the switch as they pass through your fingers) and my accuracy improves if I type the right way and only use it in between to rest my palms on. Its hard not to be lazy though. When gaming in particular and I am only using QWERDF or WASD its just more comfortable for longer periods.

[@fizihkull]

So, how would I do a shift+F10 ? I wish there were function keys, that would seal the deal for me.

[@jonmclaughlin4128]

Hold down the shift and layer 1 keys with your left hand and press F10 with your right hand.. on the default layout at least. Also, I think there is a windows application key already mapped by default

[@BlindRambler]

So I'm totally getting a desktop just for the large screen and keyboard xD

[@ablanchi]

keeping a split keyboard that close together is a sin

[@afborro]

Try using them a mile apart and tell me how you get on :)

[@technologicalwaste7612]

@@afborro I use mine strapped to the opposite sides of an exercise ball that I rest in my lap.

[@SoundToxin]

@@afborro Shoulder-width apart is the ideal placement. This way your shoulders aren't bending forward and inward like they are with a traditional keyboard.

[@Jotaro-o]

That keyboard is amazing but still I'll never spend $365 for just a keyboard

[@edakimling133]

I thought the same thing. But...mechanical keyboards are simply expensive. Any of them. If you spend time going on their website and reading what this thing can do, your jaw will drop. This will be likely the last keyboard you ever buy

[@Jotaro-o]

@@edakimling133 I have looked it up and unless it can cook me dinner or clean my house then I am not interested in. As a programmer and gamer, my $40 keyboard gets the job done

[@edakimling133]

@@Jotaro-o If you found a solution that works for you, then great!

[@thevillagetuba]

Just wanted to comment that the Wally GUI software does/should work on Arch-based systems (and should work for other Linux distros no problem). There are two steps provided in their github's Linux install Wiki that are necessary. The first is to make sure that the necessary dependencies are installed. The second step is to create and add the user to the plugdev group (if it doesn't already exist) and then to add a file with specific rules to /etc/udev/rules.d/50-wally.rules. There are different rules for the Ergodox EZ and the Moonlander, and you might have done like I did and only placed the Ergodox rules in the file originally. Either way, I have been running this on multiple systems with Manjaro, with no flashing problems, since I got it in January. If both of these steps are done, the program should recognize and flash the software.

[@rahulprasad2318]

Coooonsuuuume

[@natetate785]

How tf did he get his in a week, I ordered mine more than 2 weeks ago:(

[@subarutendou]

mine will come at monday, I am using kinesis adventage 2 now, but is too big. Make it hard to bring to my work place.

[@tiktok.4527]

That is a great keyboard.

[@Publiceervoormij]

I always flash with the default reset key on the keyboard, so never with a pin.

[@castawaydotcom]

I have the brightness and volume rockers on the far little thumb keys 🙂 on my EZ

[@slap_my_hand]

Why didn't they just give the keyboard a config mode where it acts as an emulated flash drive? Lots of hardware uses this approach for firmware updates and configuration. You should avoid special purpose software at all costs, because it will inevitably get abandoned some day.

[@edakimling133]

Not true. This runs on the QMK which is an open source firmware code on github. So no, even if the company goes under, you're in good hands. Open source hardware baby!

[@aldotovar9231]

cool

[@no.no.4680]

I've actually gotten used to split arrow keys on my kinesis

[@shanedetsch]

does moonlander work better with pc or mac or is it about the same

[@hanspetervollhorst1]

which keys did you pick? they sound really clicky

[@DistroTube]

Kailh Copper

[@hanspetervollhorst1]

@@DistroTube This is the first time in my life that I bought something "as seen on TV". Hope it's worth it. Bit sad I could not use a coupon or a promo code. You might want to reach out to them about that because if I am satisfied, I will order a few more for my family and I would happily support the channel by using your aff-code.

[@cezarcj9357]

Hi! Can anyone point me to a place where I can learn how to program a second keyboard in linux, to make it act like a streaming deck? Basically I would like to run certain shortcuts by pressing only one key on the second keyboard. Thanks :)

[@spinkey4842]

LOOOOOB the switches are yelling for LOOOOB!!!!! nice keeb though

[@raymanovich3254]

Desoldering an expensive board like that is a nightmare though.

[@spinkey4842]

@@raymanovich3254 ya you got a point. but maybe plastic dental syringes with the bent tips for stabs and grease, and lube oils with another actual syringe for the switches

[@raymanovich3254]

@@spinkey4842 That'll do it for the stabs, sure. But I don't think "injecting" lubricant into tactile switches like that is a great idea.

[@edakimling133]

@@raymanovich3254 This keyboard can have the keys taken out without soldering and reinserted! Would be interested if you can elaborate on the lubing - what to use and the benefits?

[@raymanovich3254]

@@edakimling133 The moonlander is hotswap? I missed that on the storepage, my bad. The benefits are pretty substantive, but does come down to personal preference. It can greatly improve the sound, and reduce unwanted friction, improving keyfeel. There's millions of different lubricants you can get, expensive ones and cheap ones, varying in viscosity (thickness/greasiness) and granularity. Krytox 205 Grade 0 (K205G0) is widely known to be the best/most used/widely applicable/most premium lube to use for keyswitches. It's the only one I've used though, so I can't comment on how different kinds give different results and I don't think I'm a big enough snob to even tell the difference anyway. The mechanical keyboard rabbit hole is very deep and dark indeed. You can built your own personal keyboard by hand, with the most premium look, feel and sound and unlike any other. Just be aware it'll cost a lot of money, and figuring out your ideal combination of parts it terms of results vs. cost will take quite a bit of research.

[@afborro]

To all the archies kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip_Jq4NtrKmmeas. "That's what happens when you use Arch btw" : I don't use Arch btw :D

[@kissu_io]

Ergodox Ez is not ortholinear, it's vertically staggered.

[@edakimling133]

so what is ortholinear then?

[@MarcelRobitaille]

Once you get use to this how do you use a laptop?

[@edakimling133]

I think that is the point of the moonlander keyboard being more compact - you take it with you. Of course not everywhere could you set it up, I get it. But presumably if you are doing a lot of work, you'd find some place and yes, 'deploy' your moonlander

[@craigw4644]

$365.00 !!! Not for me.

[@plasmalife5532]

I want it

[@badlife5476]

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've been thinking about getting an ergonomic keyboard, however I have become too reliant on shortcuts like Shift+F6 and others including the function keys, which however, seem to be missing from Moonlander and the like. Is anyone here aware of similar (preferably split) keyboards with a dedicated function key row?

[@DistroTube]

The default key layout for the ErgoDox and Moonlander has the number keys serve as function keys on layer 1. So hold the layer 1 key (bottom left) plus 6 and you get F6.

[@edakimling133]

I would urge you to read up more on the website of the company and watch Ben's videos, You will discover that there is nothing this keyboard cannot do a regular keyboard can, and ton more. You can program your shift keys to be anywhere you want. Also, there are 4 types of modifiers you can assign any key (tap, tap+hold, double tap, hold). You could never do this on a regular keyboard. Also, to answer specifically your point about F keys. The way to go is that ergodox/moonlander have 32 layouts you can program each. So, you could chose which modifier key will trigger the layer (that would be your shift equivalent) and it would enter another layer (and like I said, this modifier could trigger the layer by tap, holding, double tap or tap+hold). On this layer, you can program your top row, or any row, to act as F1 to F12). The reason that the company did not print the upper row for F keys is because you can re-arrange the keys around, and the F keys are not used heavily. And with 32 layers, the print on top of the keys is meaningless of course. You can also grab compatible keyboard (or buy online) keys that have the F keys printed on them and swap them for some of the keys on this keyboard. The possibilities are endless Read up on it, watch videos and I think you will discover that this keyboard you can program to behave just the way that suits you, the unique you. :) Cheers

[@hanspetervollhorst1]

3:30 sounds a bit like cheap plastic

[@xtrailz]

The answer to all your problems is ... a bigger table

[@henrywang6931]

The thumb cluster is now even more further away. This keyboard is certainly not for me...

[@edakimling133]

Not true. The thumb cluster was actually designed to give flexibility in this area. You can leave the cluster flat, make it go down...or...for people like you with smaller hands needing the cluster closer, you can make the cluster go up. It becomes significantly closer. The only thing that you do lose I imagine if the thumb cluster goes up, is the tilt for ergonomics. For such case I wonder if it might not be a good idea to include an optional hole for a leg support.

[@henrywang6931]

@@edakimling133 but if you increase the height of the thumb cluster, you then can't tent it...

[@edakimling133]

@@henrywang6931 I agree, hence my last sentence in my comment.

[@AcidiFy574]

Is the hardware open source??

[@edakimling133]

from what I understand it is open source to the degree that the firmware, QMK runs on it is open source (it's on github and quite popular). So you can modify all aspects of this keyboard. But it does not run something like Ryzen-V if that is what you mean. I think it runs a mobile cortex chip. But for what we need this to do, I think this is good enough for now.

[@jj-icejoe6642]

365$ 😳

[@gv6758]

😳

[@edakimling133]

spread it over your lifetime...or to be more realistic, let's say 20 years (making assumption on the longevity of the keyboard)...suddenly it is very cheap...then add up 'good mechanical keyboards' you'd buy otherwise over the years (non open sourced) and compare which is cheaper. I bought few years ago a mechanical corsair. After about a year, one by one the LEDs started to go. There is nothing I can do to fix this. Nothing. And that keyboard was like $150. You buy cheap, you buy twice. And this corsair was supposed to be quality!

[@dougtilaran3496]

You aint no suthner. I got 6 on each hand.. 2 pinkys on the left and 2 thumbz on the right

[@human__________]

get a monitor arm ya doofis

[@ShaunakHub]

These keyboards are pretty cool. But will not be my cup of tea. Actually very old people like me, who has learned 'touch typing' will find it practically impossible to use any other layout other than the 'standard' layout.

[@edakimling133]

I don't think that is true. You could do it. The company has very nice visual software to help you learn. You can see the layout and learn the keyboard. There is a learning curve for sure. But everyone almost swear it is worth it. Don't shoot yourself down...

[@MaciSpaulding]

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[@rooneye]

lol what a silly name for a keyboard!

[@jeffrymurphy6090]

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[@majorgamer4610]

first

[@poms3559]

Third

[@AlexDBall]

second!

[@fubaralakbar6800]

Keyboards are bloat. Just Bluetooth your tablet to your PC and get a program that can simulate any kind of input you want.

[@edakimling133]

There is no way you could type and execute myriads of shortcuts on a tablet as efficiently and as fast as on a keyboard. I don't buy it

[@ewrietz]

Hey dt, y r u bald