Uncensored: The Nastiest Hollywood Stars

Ego, entitlement, and excess. Hollywood has long been a beacon of dreams, but for some, it's also been a platform for notorious behavior aka jerk behavior. From on-set tantrums to off-screen feuds, a select few have etched their names in infamy. They've basked in the spotlight, yet cast long shadows of controversy. Loved by many for their talent, yet reviled for their actions. These aren't just any stars - these are the biggest jerks in Hollywood's history. Dive in as we unravel the tales of Tinseltown's most notorious. Lights, camera, scandal!
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The Biggest Jerks in Hollywood's History

[@josephineschwarz2572]

Our problem is that we put these people up on pedestals and when they fall we're shocked. They are just human good and bad.

[@valery668]

My aunt was Frank Sinatra's private secretary. She told our family that he was always and totally "in service to his voice." The training of the voice and protection of that voice was all-important. She remained as silent as a tomb about his life and actions. She never married and we all thought she was in love with him. He paid her my aunt's funeral and wrote us all condolence notes. The one revealing tid-bit my aunt did say is that he was very generous and loyal to those who were loyal to him.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

I have this Aunt and Uncle that are just HUGE Sinatra fans. They have pictures of him up in their house. They named their boat Old Blue Eyes. Everything was Frank Sinatra. They almost seem to me like the, I guess 40's-50's version of Dead Heads. He made music after that but you know what I mean. The earlier generations Dead Heads. That just always tickled me. I don't know why it's kind of funny to me. You don't expect that with Sinatra. I mean, not in the same way. Of course he had his hardcore fans. But that seems more like a teenager's realm I guess. But they sure loved Mr. Sinatra. I think he's pretty cool too but I spend more time listening to the rock and roll and other stuff. I'm really more of a Dead Head. Lol.

[@user-gu1jk4qn6b]

@@PaulTheSkeptic It should not surprise you, because he was huge. Not only on the radio, but in the movies, and on tv. too. He was only a skinny kid, in the 40s, but teenagers were wild about him, and watched his career as his star power kept increasing. He's one of my favorites, too, a fact that used to drive people my age crazy.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

@@user-gu1jk4qn6b No, it doesn't surprise me. In fact, I think it's the absolute pinnacle of coolness when someone can appreciate something that's outside of their generation and not already popular among their immediate peers. I was little in the 80's and a teen in the 90's but I've always been into the music of the 60's and 70's. The Who, Hendrix, Pink Floyd etc. It did become popular again for a little while in the 2000's among younger people but in my day, it was weird. Eventually I'd come to love jazz, classical and all kinds of weird music. I love a musical challenge. Something that's outside of your immediate world or even outside of your culture. Indian raga is a personal favorite. Music is a huge part of my life. I basically eat sleep and breath music. I'm a songwriter so, yeah. So I think it's cool that you like Sinatra. I like him too. He's not someone on regular rotation in my listening but if he was on, I'd dig it. I'd get into it.

[@edwardkarlson8192]

To show I'm not biased I nominate Sinatra as the greatest entertainment showman of the second half of the last century. As for his care for his voice, I knew a lady who went to one of his concerts in Las Vegas and she said she could hardly see him clearly for all the cigarette smoke he created around him. I took voice - barely mediocre - and our teacher stressed how smoking could affect the voice - but then Caruso smoked cigars. Sinatra was a master entertainer regardless of what some think of him. (My second choice is Bing Crosby.) I also read that Sinatra did not do retakes in films and marred some of his scenes.

[@Moonpearl121]

My mum was an extra on the set of a couple of Marlene Dietrich movies - and she said that Marlene was unfailing kind and generous to the extras and crews. She might have been high-handed with Directors, but her reputation was good with the people lower down.

[@41663]

That means alot. Very human of her

[@leanderrowe2800]

Your comment reminds me someone once said it's how we treat people below us that show our character. Thanks for letting us know.

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

They also said no one in Hollywood knew more about good lighting than Marlene Dietrich. Loretta Young was first runner up.

[@bambi274]

How old r u kindly?

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

@@bambi274 LOL. I remember when Bambi was a new movie.

[@rudolphwatson1737]

In defense of Mr. Gable he stood up for the black actors who were being mistreated while filming the movie GWTW. He insisted that the black actors be treated fairly. He and actress Hattie McDaniel who played Mammy in GWTW were good friends. He use to go to her lavish parties. Also Margaret Mitchell who was the author of GWTW use to secretly give donations to a black college in Atlanta. Both class acts !!👏

[@brianfuller757]

Gable was definitely a complex character.

[@carolholly1608]

Huge Fan of Clark Gable, & Have Never Heard ANY Of The Negative Traits Portrayed in This Video! 😎

[@carolholly1608]

Who Isn't?? 😎

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

I've heard how he@least spoke up for black actors/workers & threatened to walk off set if studio insisted on segregated facilities. So whatever quirks, flaws Clark may've had he wasn't all bad. Just sad that Loretta & her daughter got a shitty deal. Just the way it was I reckon.

[@shadrach6299]

He was a loyal friend to Hattie McDaniel. I respect him

[@macswanton9622]

How in the world can anybody manage to PRONOUNCE EVERY ACTOR'S NAME WRONG?

[@megancrager4397]

It's artificial intelligence

[@rinlo1424]

​@@megancrager4397Yup. I'm on a mission to get people to boycott these stupid computer voiced videos.

[@jimdrake3436]

⁠”Artificial” for sure, but “intelligence”-not.

[@Pluviophile218]

Absent intelligence@@megancrager4397

[@kimberlyrichardson8760]

Yes, infuriating they use a computer to narrate instead of having a human read the content.

[@theoriginalrabbithole]

According to Clark Gable's stepson from his marriage to Kay Williams, Bunker Spreckles, Gable was an awesome stepfather to Bunker and his sister! Gable treated them both as if they were his own kids and spent a lot of time doing things together as a family. Spreckles made it very clear that Clark Gable was a good husband to his mom and the greatest father, any kid could want. He really was Clark Gable! Whatever he may have done at the studio, Clark Gable got it right at home and that's coming from a stepson!

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

You have a talent for stretching the truth. Have you considered becoming a Fiction writer? He was a great step-father you say, the kind any kid could have wanted. I bet his actual blood daughter, who was not just any kid, could have wanted that, too.

[@dlewis895]

​@@JackMason-oq8lfGABLE TRIED MANY MANY TIMES TO CONNECT WITH HIS DAUGHTER BUT LORETTA WAS IN HEAVY DENIAL THAT GABLE WAS THE FATHER FROM A VERY BRIEF AFFAIR LORETTA WAS MORE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING HER IMAGE AS SWEET CLEAN CUT..BECAUSE SHE WAS EMBARASSED THAT GABLE AN SHE HAD BRIEF EPISODE THAT GOT HER PREGNANT..HE TRIED OFTEN TO CONNECT LORETTA REFUSED....AGAIN PROTECTING HER REPUTATION FIRST. PX OF HIS DAUGHTER ARE OBVIOUS SHE HAD DADDY GABLES BIG EARS AN FOUND OUT LATER HE TRIED TO GET CONNECTED WITH HER

[@eileenhetherington3704]

Very nice. Too bad he couldn't be troubled to be a real father to his own daughter, Judy.

[@clairedisapia]

Judy Garland‘a mother was the cause of her addiction since she needed Judy was the breadwinner and her mother didn’t protect her at all

[@audreydaleski1067]

Her mother should not have had to protect her from the studio.

[@cc1k435]

Her mother, knowing that it all could easily go away, was no match for people like Louis B. Mayer, a horrible nightmare of a human being for a little girl and her mother to be pitted against. Hollywood then, as it often does now, had no problem in using people and then throwing them out after draining them. People aren't meant to spend their formative years working 24/7 and depending on drugs to maintain their waking hours for them.

[@libertygiveme1987]

@clairedisapia - Yeah, her mother was a "PARASITE"!!!!

[@jellyrollnorton]

When fame, money, and unchecked ego collide.

[@Alsatiagent]

Used to work in the restaurant of a high-end hotel. Served many big names in the 80s. The most memorable? Not-quite-a-big-star, gorgeous actress Susan Anton. She smiled at and looked every one she interacted with in the eye. She was with three other well dressed men, industry types. The Salvadoran busboys were all smitten with her. They'd serve her some fresh bread and wander back to the waiters station muttering to themselves"what a nice lady, too beautiful". Just for being kind. I felt the same after she'd left. Like a boy after his first slow dance with a pretty gal. I was in my 20's and living with my girlfriend. Tried to tell her about it....she didn't want to know. I tolerated her crush on Mickey Rourke so it served her right.

[@raquelgarvin8391]

And what does this have to do with Clark Gable??????????

[@anthonylagano]

MGM and Judy’s mother are to blame for her addiction to sleeping pills and amphetamines . They prescribed the pills to her when she was a child to manage her weight etc . Then they were aghast at her behavior . Shameful

[@libertygiveme1987]

@anthonylagano - Well, they're paying for it now!!!! And have ETERNITY to think of what they did too!!!!

[@gy2gy246]

@@libertygiveme1987 The MGM Studio doesn't exist anymore. The studios broke up in the '60's.

[@libertygiveme1987]

@@gy2gy246 In 1980, MGM ,Inc SPLIT it's Production and Casino Units into separate Companies. Metro-Goldwyn Mayer Film Co. and MGM Grand Hotels, Inc.

[@bambi274]

Its strange. Cause she was the skinniest actress back then. The others looked healthier. Why was she the onky one given strict diet pills?

[@figmo397]

@@bambi274 She wasn't the only one given pills by the studios. Shirley Temple was given pills, too. The difference is that Shirley's parents didn't keep up the pilling after she left the studio, trying to give her a more normal life. Even in more recent times, Marie Osmond was hassled by ABC execs about her "weight" when she was a healthy, normal weight, and Margaret Cho suffered serious damage from being forced to go on a strict diet for her TV show.

[@sedekiman824]

Apparently Vivien Leigh wrote apologetic letters to people she hurt.

[@gretchendemasi768]

She was bi polar and suffered terribly. It was the reason her marriage to Lawrence Olivier did not last.

[@themaestroslady1812]

That was only one reason. The other is that she was so promiscuous. She had many affairs during their marriage. Olivier admitted that he was physically unable to keep up with her sexual demands.

[@TwoCatsInLondon]

@@themaestroslady1812 That promiscuity is a part of bipolar disorder. It's a symptom of the disease she had. I don't think mental illness is an excuse to behave poorly, but she did live in a time when no treatment was available. And if it had been, she wouldn't be allowed to take it because it would announce to the world that she was a "loony".

[@marjoriegarner5369]

​@@themaestroslady1812she was also alcoholic. So sad.

[@shesaknitter]

@@marjoriegarner5369 Alcoholism is often the way that people suffering from bipolar disorder self-medicate. Of course it only makes their suffering worse.

[@pancdca]

NOT true about Bogie. My grandma was friends with Louis Bromfield and was a seamstress who helped with Bogie and Bacall's wedding at Malabar Farm. She said Bogie was extremely nice to everyone as was Bacall they even signed autographs and the area.

[@gretchendemasi768]

Bette herself did not think she was a looker but she had yankee work ethic and knew how to make the most of what she had.

[@sandrakenney567]

@gretchendemasi768.she surly did godbless her .she was a great actress rest in peace to her🙏🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🌹🌹🌹🌹💖🙏Amen

[@speedracer1945]

She was kinda cute when she was young but older nahhh .

[@audreydaleski1067]

Bette is the best.

[@rainbowgold6410]

Are you old? Like us

[@sandrakenney567]

@@speedracer1945 even when she aged she still could act.Godbless her.rest in peace to her 🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🌹🌹🌹🌹🦋🦋🦋🦋AMEN.

[@schnertblatt]

. . . And Frank Sinatra didn't even form the "Rat Pack"! It was initially formed by Humphrey Bogart and his wife Betty ("Lauren") Bacall and was originally called the _Holmby Hills_ Rat Pack because of the neighborhood where they lived.

[@Alsatiagent]

Franks' goons used to intimidate those who did not laugh at his crude jokes. Apparently it was mandatory.

[@LindaStoronsky-yk4df]

Schnerblatt you know your stuff!

[@schnertblatt]

@@LindaStoronsky-yk4df Thank you for the compliment, Linda. I got that bit of information from one of the biographies I read of Humphrey Bogart.

[@MrRobster1234]

I know a chap named Luke Sacker who did a documentary on the "Rat Pack". Luke told me that Frank Sinatra has always been considered to be the leader of the Rat Pack. Despite this, the one they all aspired to be was Dean Martin.

[@schnertblatt]

@@MrRobster1234 Frank Sinatra was, really. . . . The Rat Pack didn't really become well-known until after Bogie sadly passed away. So, your friend is right, pretty much. 😺👍🏻

[@elzbieta_k]

There is an astonishing number of narcissists among the most famous stars. Which should be no surprise really.

[@valery668]

My parents grew up in Hollywood and often encountered celebrities as it was a "company town" and almost everyone was employed in the movie business. Most of my uncles were camera-men or set designers. My mother modeled swimsuits and suits for the Model's Blue Book alongside the then "Norma Jean" who became, of course, Marilyn Monroe. My aunt was the private secretary to Frank Sinatra. But what was often mentioned in our family was my father nearing killing Clark Gable! My dad was driving on Wilshire Boulevard in the middle of the day in late 1940 and a huge man jaywalked right in front of him! It was Clark Gable. My dad described that Gable was very apologetic, smiled and waved as he continued across the middle of the street. My dad broke into a sweat and pulled over the car and sighed, "I nearly went down in history as the killer of the most famous actor in the world!" He told he had anxious nightmares for years afterward!

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

How dare that Bette Davis. Being born looking the way she looked, how dare she try and make something of herself using talent instead. That is not how it's done in Hollywood. She really had her nerve.

[@lala-gj4oo]

bettes talent was palpable, off the charts, rip

[@elnick1000]

the biggest ommison here was Rex Harrison. As he was noted to be down right nasty. During the play MR FAIR LADY, a woman fan came up to him, with a brochure trying to get his autograph. he was rude to her, and she hit him with the brochure. Sterling Holloway who worked on the film as well, commented, It was the first time that he saw a fan hit the shit. When he died, it was wondered where would they have the funeral. Someone said that a phone booth, as you could fit all of his friends in there.

[@eileenhetherington3704]

Yes Rex Harrison was a truly awful person, and one actress is known to have committed suicide when he wouldn't marry her.

[@gy2gy246]

Today's stars aren't any better, but years ago, it was hidden from the press by the studio system, now everything is in the open.

[@rinlo1424]

As if A.I. narrated videos aren't awful enough, this "creator" can't even be bothered to make sure their automated voice program pronounces names and common words correctly. It's the epitome of lazy.

[@haintedhouse2990]

don't forget Bing Crosby who was supposedly a delight to work with, then would go home, get drunk and beat up on his sons. White Christmas my ass.

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

Yes, one of his sons said that.

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

As an entertainer & crooner Bing was great. As a husband & daddy not so great.

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@a.leemorrisjr.9255 2 out of his 4 son's committed suicide so i'm guessing no, not father of the year.

[@mitzymoo3151]

So sad that Bing has been tainted by inaccuracies and false info. Number one...his own son commented that Bing was the ONLY family member he never saw drunk as Bing had reformed his drinking habits approx 6 months into his first marriage at Dixie's insistence. He controlled his drinking highly successfully the rest of his life. Number Two....his eldest son was reinterviewed years after his books release and gave 9 hrs of recorded interview time. He was asked about stories in the book vs information gathered by the interviewer. His answer was he couldn't remember writing certain parts as he had been drinking during this period. Confirmed by the co-author when asked, the book was pieced together. So the son never even really wrote it. One horrendous story was traced back to the eldest son who when challenged about it completely denied it. The second book that added to the mistruths regarding Bing was found to be so full of BS and half truths even the main source was furious and began his own journal counteracting what had been written. Out of seven children only one son had anything negative to say, which as it turns out he didn't even really do. As to the two sons that suicided both in their early to mid fifties, long after Bing's passing, and not long after the trust money that had helped support them, originally set up through money from Bing and Dixie, had run out because the investments had gone bad. Bing adored his children but was a disciplinarian as he freely talked about even early on....his wife was a disciplinarian as well, probably stricter than Bing because she apparently chided Bing for punishing the boys and then taking them out for a movie etc. Mainly at that time he was away from home sometimes weeks, months, due to his recording, radio, movie and war time service. Did you know Bing came to the aide of Judy Garland, Rosemary Clooney when they had problems. Did you know Bing was one of the first major stars to stand up and support equal opportunity for artists such as Louis Armstrong, who adored him. What about the countless good deeds he done for friends, employees, strangers, fans, family. Lastly what about the three other sons from his first marriage that defended Bing in quotes given after the eldest released his book, or that son telling his stepsister why some parts had been included....the worse it is the more it sells. She was very upset. What about Gary apparently telling his wife, it wasn't the same book he wrote. Even she noted that it didn't sound like Gary. I've also read an article where Gary discussed his own parenting skills, where he realised that some discipline and boundaries are necessary and that he spanked as well.....but he listened to his child more and praised more. His son loved him and also had nice things to say about Bing.

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@mitzymoo3151 damn- when's the book coming out? Joan Crawford was also a disciplinarian who loved her children, but i wasn't a fly on the wall so what do i know..

[@tomperkins5657]

So many cautionary tales but an excellent robo-voice. Hard to tell the difference anymore.

[@chemincoccinelles]

He said "Bet" for Bette Davis.

[@user-kt2on3zc1t]

@@chemincoccinellesYes, that’s a dead giveaway.

[@christinecremen4151]

And mispronounced John Huston' s surname.

[@keithnichols7926]

These stars found that achieving and maintaining a top position in the movie business was not a competition for the meek, especially when studio executives were inclined to treat everybody as hired help to be acquired and fired for reasons often having little to do with an actor's talent or the quality of their work. The fact that this video features some of the movies' all-time greats almost guarantees that they were notably self-seeking and self-centered. Nobody arrives in Hollywood with any guarantee of success in pictures. So when you get some, you become pretty defensive.

[@terr777]

Well, the song wasn't Bet Davis Eyes.

[@leoinsf]

For Ava Gardner to laughingly state before divorcing Mickey Rooney: "I'm tired of being married to a midget!" shows the kind of person she actually was!

[@michaellear6904]

Yeah, she kinda gave the game away. Off hand remarks can be very incisive.

[@themaestroslady1812]

If his height bothered her that much, why did she marry the guy?? He couldn't help that he was shorter than her! Good grief, what a jerk she was.

[@starcrib]

He was a midget: and he treated her awfully. 🐩💨

[@patricias5122]

Do you believe that? I don't!

[@cc1k435]

I think it also may have been a line tossed out at a short man who was toxic and a bit impossible to live with. You don't necessarily end up married 8 times for being such a wonderful guy. 🤷

[@pollyelainesanderson6598]

Clark Gable stormed off the set of GWTW when he realized that while white actors and crew members had bathrooms, black actors and crew members had to use outhouses. He demanded that black people be given bathrooms to be used and if the outhouses were not gone by the next morning, he would be. He was a civil rights advocate at a time when few citizens were, particularly well-known people.

[@dianejohnson5216]

I have read where he was part Black

[@capoislamort100]

@@dianejohnson5216aaahh, so you have heard about that…..

[@pollyelainesanderson6598]

@@dianejohnson5216 This has been a rumor for decades. There has never been any proof. He was often an advocate for the underdog. In the 1920s and 1930s, interracial marriage was against Federal law. One was considered to be a Negro if they were 1/7 black. This continued into the 1960s in some states.

[@scotnick59]

Joan did NOT have teen-aged mother.

[@onceamusician5408]

having been a performing classical musician i will say unequivocally that talent is NO license for such unprofessional behaviour by these actors on set as described here. they should be fired. their talent is not worth THAT much and, being afflicted with "complexity" myself, this does not excuse nor water down or mitigate in any way my own black depressions, bitterness etc

[@rongendron8705]

You pretty much, covered nearly every one of the greatest 'stars' in Hollywood! Gable was the "King"; Wayne was the real "King of the Cowboys"; Bogart was the best 'Good-Bad guy'; Grant was the 'Handsomest', Gardner was the most sultry; Dietrich was the most International & Sinatra was the best male voice, as was Garland for females! What can you expect when a person has reached the pinnacle of their success in their careers? They're bound to become obstreperous!

[@debowiec3]

Even nonpareil!!!!!!

[@davidalexoff1658]

I read that they painted Gables teeth, and that leading ladies hated kissing him because of his awful breath.

[@RoderickFernandez-ps5ci]

Clark Gable had false teeth

[@trudieristich795]

And not that anything is wrong, but he was also Gay

[@RoderickFernandez-ps5ci]

@@trudieristich795 are you sure Clark Gable is gay I do not believe it I know some people in Hollywood will know him I don't believe 85 years old and spend a lot of time in Hollywood I don't believe it

[@alicetelford9027]

@@trudieristich795 Your comment immediately made me think of Seinfeld!

[@dreamsrmadeof]

the entertainment business chews up and spits people out.

[@lesafowers8142]

Cool!!! I learn something new everyday of my life. I am disabled and old film has saved me. Thank you!!!

[@thevintagearchives]

Thank you for your kind words! I'm so glad that my content has been able to make a positive impact in your life. It's comments like yours that motivate me to keep creating. Stay curious and keep learning!

[@LindaStoronsky-yk4df]

You make a few mistakes but you convey some great info about these wonderful classic stars. Thank you from upstate NY.

[@vanpelt2321]

It is said, and wisely so, who we are in old age and middle age is who we were as children. Self-centered, mean-spirited and vindictive or kind, easygoing and compassionate. Most often it's a combination of both. The same, I suppose, holds for great actors who had on-screen personalities of gold but feet of clay. Just reinforces what producer Sam Spiegel famously said of Marlon Brando: "Make a star, you make a monster".

[@sandrakenney567]

@vanpelt2321.very well said 👍👋🤗💖.you seem Like a nice person.I loved the old time stars. im now 57 years old but i remember seing old movies and loved the silent old time movies and the fred dance musicals💖 stars 💖👍Old Timer 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟s will never be forgotten. Rest in peace to them amen godbless them🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌟🐬🐬🐬🐬🌟🌻🌹🌷🕊🙄🦋🌟🐬🌟💖

[@rainbowgold6410]

I never heard that? Mmmmm😊

[@sandrakenney567]

@vanpelt2321.Very well said 👍👏

[@vicschauberger2737]

@@rainbowgold6410 you've never heard that saying because it's not said . Except by this guy . Really ,the only similarity between old age and childhood is , in both instances , people need to be cared for by others . Middle age and childhood ? This is not a wise or often said phrase .

[@rinlo1424]

That isn't "said."

[@eottoe2001]

The narcissistic personality is magnetic. On the other hand, the work of making a movie or television show can be tedious and hard work that would drive me bonkers.

[@MightyMezzo]

8:09 Bette Davis’ third marriage did not end in divorce. Arthur Farnsworth died from a skull fracture sustained in a sidewalk fall.

[@rinlo1424]

People who use computer voices to narrate videos don't care about facts. Or pronunciation.

[@leonardohummel8658]

Yes, the personal moral failings and miseries of very famous Hollywood celebrity stars...could easily include also Marlon Brando, Jerry Lewis, Errol Flynn, Mickey Rooney, Johnny Carson, Cate Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, Jonny Debb, Angelina Jolie, and many others...

[@elliotskydel875]

Spelling much?

[@ThePiratemachine]

Everyone's human.

[@terriseaton3049]

My Gosh! All these actors sound human!

[@normacasini838]

Regarding my favorite classic film and noir actress diva, Ms. Joan Crawford: Everyone has a backstory and Joan's horrendous trauma, bipolar disorder, alcohol addiction, and childhood sexual abuse had much to do with her need to exact control. Trauma never leaves the brain and the body keeps the score. Not to mention psychological counseling wasn't exactly encouraged or refined back then...so if you were hurting - well, baby, you were in it pretty much alone. This was also a time when Hollywood looked down on female actresses and the pay was about a 1/4 of a male A-Lister's paycheck. Considering the backstory - there is no question that Joan Crawford would have been a tough mother, in every sense of the word, that is all she knew . In her relentless pursuit of success, she was a fanatical perfectionist, fueled by a childhood of poverty and neglect. She was an alcoholic and psychological demons haunted and drove her to succeed. However, no one can deny that she had a definite screen presence. I admired Ms. Crawford's extensive charitable work and the large donations to the community, Cancer Society, and our family's favorite - the U.S.O. --- that was something she didn't readily have publicized. But when she went out - even to the store when she was able, she was a fashion plate for sure; I adored the shoulder padded blazers that she created and brought into fashion - still utilized in the 80's for female blazers. Ms. Joan always expressed the importance for her to greet any fan who approached her in the best way possible - because it was the fans that always supported her and it was the fans to whom she owed every success she had in film. I am soft on her for that because when I was about 9 years old, I fell in love with Joan Crawfors and Bette Davis; both commanding and intelligent women. In the early 70's, my mother helped me write a fan letter because she said that supposably Joan personally read all of her fan mail and personally wrote back to her fans. After about 6 months, I still loved her but figured I would never hear from her...and really, why would I? But a letter came in her own handwriting thanking me and my mother for our support. One sentence stood out, "Tell little Norma how much I appreciate her support and that acting may look fun, but it is a lot of hard work and you have to be tough on the inside and the outside. Just be a happy little girl at home and make your memories there." I was disappointed because I wanted her to be impressed and encouraging with my desire to grow up and be an actress like her, I was rather mad at her for a while. But as I look back - I see how hard it would be to always be on guard on the inside and the outside - I guess it was a blessing that my desire didn't come true - because besides fame, all she got was heartache which hardened her heart - yeah, I get it now. Hollywood was an abusive industry especially to women as they aged (just look at the Me-Too movement of today --- it was much worse back then for actresses who refused to tow the line)...so Joan got out of it what she could; I don't blame her. Crawford's acting was melodramatic and exaggerated, but it was hard not to me drawn to her screen presence. Despite having only one speed, she was remarkably talented. She brilliantly stands out in the film, Mildrid Pierce. Sho got the Oscar, right before Hollywood was going to put her out of their circle. As far as her and Bette Davis, that is between them - but interesting to note that even Ms. Davis was a a longstanding rival of Crawford, but even she denounced the book, Mommie Dearest, stating, "I was not Miss Crawford's biggest fan, but, wisecracks to the contrary, I did and still do respect her talent. What she did not deserve was that detestable book written by her daughter. I've forgotten her name. Horrible."

[@northernlights6459]

@normacasini, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Such an interesting comment.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

I am currently reading The Divine Feud for the 20th time. There are still many who adored Joan and to this day say Mommie Dearest was BS. She was beloved by many . Bette Davis was a nasty thing. I don't believe any of this BS in this video. Gable and Fleming were best friends...it was Cukor that he got kicked off GWTW. Fleming and Gable fished and hunted together for years?

[@markde9904]

Clark Gable jerk? Clark Gable was a selfless hero. In 1942, after WW2 broke out, this HERO enlisted as a private in the USAAF at the age of 41, despite being too old to be drafted and a rich hollywood star. He attended aireal gunnery school and was then assigned to the USAAF 8th force in the UK to assist making a film on B-17 gunners in action. He was not expected to fly on any missions, simply provide technical support. However being the amazing man he was, Clark flew on many combat missions, including dangerous unescorted missions over Germany. In addition to filming, he also flew missions as just another gunner on a B-17. This at a time when 75% of all crew members flying with the 8th Airforce were killed in action or shot down and taken prisoner before their tour was up. A bit of reading wil also show he often flew missions as just another gunner, under the name of another airman, enabling that airman to sit out the mission and not put his life at risk while getting credit for the mission and closer to rotating back home. The man was a flat out hero and for sone no-body with a you tube channel to call him a jerk is just pathetic.

[@shesaknitter]

He did not take responsibility for the daughter he fathered with Loretta Young, which was kind of sad for her, being on the business end of a lie about her parentage. Her mother even tried various ways of changing her ears, which looked so much like her father's Young later told her daughter, after hearing a description of date rape, said that that was what she felt had happened that had resulted in the daughter Judy's conception. In any case, he was a complex human being, and capable of good and bad, like most of us!

[@markde9904]

So you have inuendo and rumors about what may have been and may not have been? Personal matters that you have NO idea what is truthful or not is what matters? The verifiable courage and selflessness he displayed takes a back seat to the tabloid stories? You just showed us what is wrong with America and why pathetic clowns like Trump get votes. @@shesaknitter

[@CatherineELewis]

Just because a person has military service doesn't mean that they can't be a jerk. They are first and foremost just a person. We need to stop putting those people on pedestals.

[@markde9904]

He isnt on a pedestal because he has military serviuce. He is because of the huge risk and selflessness he displayed while in the service. Such as flying dangerous missions under another persons name so they could stay on the ground safe and be closer to ending their tour. And anyone who has served in the military, agreeing to risk their life for you and our country does deserve your respect. Just because you were too selfish or lazy to serve your country doesn't give you the right to insult those who did. You sound like cadet bone spurs.@@CatherineELewis

[@mangos2888]

People put way too much importance on military performance as a judgement of character outside of the war....

[@blackwidowspider9852]

According to mommy dearest from what she wrote Christina step daughter Christina was telling the truth Christina as a step daughter was being abused I believe her because I was a step daughter and I was being abused by a stepfather who was a monster I'm lucky to be alive today

[@rinlo1424]

Christina wasn't a step-daughter. She was adopted as a baby by Joan Crawford.

[@rhvoriginals3083]

We’re all a-holes at times. Also, some people just know how to push people’s buttons. Heck, I have my moments I’m not proud of either. Of course, if you’re constantly in the spotlights and the subject of media scrutiny, and reporting, Hollywood gossip and clashes, those moments of frailty, become historic, cumulative and damning. Not to say they weren’t difficult, or as you put it jerks, just saying, it’s tough to be a perfect human. I’m not. We all have our crosses to bear.

[@redfields5070]

I'm glad I'm not!

[@keithabney4665]

i have no patience with somebody being rude to their co-workers while playing dress-up and making more money than God.

[@Jodyrides]

I was curious, so I started watching this video. but then I changed my mind. I want to not know these out of context stories that we will never hear the flipside of.. I don’t want anyone to shatter the illusions I have about the great Hollywood days that are gone forever. And I’ll give you an example. .. I heard from quite a few places, the story of what Kirk Douglas did to young, not yet a big star, Natalie Wood, when she was a teenager. She went to his room or wherever he was staying , I think it was her mothers idea to speak to Kirk Douglas. So I think she went to his hotel room, where he sexually assaulted her, she was under age. When Natalie told her mother what he did to her, her mother said, don’t tell anyone, keep it to yourself, because the mother thought that would end Natalie’s career before it ever got to started if she were to tell what happened…. so as a result of that story, which may or may not even be true, I cannot watch a Kirk Douglas movie anymore. Every time I see him on screen, I think of poor Natalie. for that reason, I am not going to watch this gossip tabloid story about some of the stars of Hollywood from the golden era.. with the quality of movies, the movie makers are cranking out now being what it is, I do not watch the stuff that’s out today. I have been spoiled by the days when actors had faces, The studios had talented writers, and the actors at private lives.. So I am not gonna watch this video

[@ehanneken]

I know what you mean. I can't watch Kirk Douglas in a movie without thinking about Natalie Wood, although I still watch. I try to separate art from the artists who produced it.

[@eileenhetherington3704]

Kirk not only assaulted her, she had to go to the hospital for a few days because the attack was so brutal. He was well-known for this activity. He was an animal.

[@user-pinckneysux]

I just don’t watch Kirk Douglas movies. Not avoiding Natalie wood at all.

[@user-pinckneysux]

@@eileenhetherington3704animals generally are not known to do that, are they?

[@eileenhetherington3704]

@user-pinckneysux Yes, unfortunately they are. Penguins will try to mate with immature females, so do sea lions and many other creatures. Rape is not uncommon in the animal kingdom.

[@itsgleneaton4883]

What’s never mentioned is how would we handle the people that they deal with situations misunderstandings you name it.

[@hemily54]

I never found Clark Gable attractive.

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

Gable was considered a "hunk" in his day. he & "tinseltown" played that image up. He might've been a big disappointment in real life.

[@ferdinandthecrow]

Me neither, but I can spell Vivian Leigh unlike whoever made this video

[@hollandsemum1]

I always thought that Gable's issues were tied to trying to cover a massive amount of insecurity. Carole Lombard essentially mothered him to ease the linsecurity. Joan Crawford is the one I detest. She had no hold on reality. The whole thing w Bette Davis was ridiculous, because she wasn't that good and the sourness & nastiness was always shimmering just below the surface (that's without considering Christina's book). Most of the stars from the 30s & 40s had rough childhoods, but most didn't let it surface while acting. With Frank Sinatra I've always wondered if he regretted divorcing Nancy for a shallow relationship that set him on the path to multiple divorces. Nancy was the classic wife who supports the husband at the beginning of his career & then gets discarded once the husband is overwhelmed by the glitter of success & loses his moral compass and manners. Judy Garland was treated like a possession by Louis Mayer, and he's the one who got her hooked on drugs as a teenager so Mayer could have her work long days with little sleep. A lot of her problems WERE due to the addictions, but it was Mayer's greedy, grasping approach to controlling actors that got her there. Actually, though not an actor Mayer should be at the top of the list for the number of people he got hooked in order to make them forced, workaholic automatons (most would've preferred normal amounts of downtime and sleep, & when they couldn't break away from Mayer, turned to alcohol and were perpetually frustrated and despairing). As a teenager, Judy simply didn't have the adult strength of will to withstand it.

[@christinecremen4151]

Sadly , I agree.

[@daler.steffy1047]

I just finished reading your comments. Thank you so much for the additional background information/perspectives. What you have to offer here has increased my own sense of who these people REALLY were. You are a very creative writer. Thank you so much for your insights. (~ Ret. H.S. Engl. Trchr...who still appreciates writers like you who DO understand and appreciate the importance of eloquence in their writings.)

[@libertygiveme1987]

@hollandsemum- VERY WELL PUT!!!! Yeah, Louis B. Mayer was a DEMON!!!!

[@rodneykingston6420]

Joan Crawford was a lot more complex than she's been painted as being. Even Christina Crawford has admitted that she was a person of great intelligence and incredible self-discipline.

[@maremaid15]

And Mayor also tried touching Judy, I don’t know how far he got- and probably other actresses.

[@albertmorris6162]

Every human being on the planet knows how to pronounce "Bette." Please stop using computer voices that don't know obvious correct pronunciation. Give voice-over work to out-of-work actors.

[@donny1960]

Exactly ..... Took me out of the narrative. These are big stars. Their names are etched into our vocabulary. It is just poor production. Makes me question just how much effort they put into the "facts" of the story.

[@ludovica8221]

@@donny1960 I think that channels which use AI voices originate in non English speaking countries or they would never let such mispronunciations through. For the same reason, they wont read any of the comments either

[@gfm31952]

Wrong! Bette Davis's REAL pronunciation of her first name was indeed as it is said in this video....'BET' NOT "BETTY"....just like "Bette" Midler. After years of the ignorant public mispronouncing her name, Ms Davis gave up and just accepted the ignorant public's mispronouncing of her first name. If you doubt me, just do a little research.

[@angelbabysqueaky3985]

Didn't Clark Grable force himself on Loretta Young? The result was a girl, she said that he never tried to see her. Also when Carole Lombard died in the plane crash. he was with another woman. He felt so guilty about it he joined up to fight in WW2. These comments are in books that I've read about. The studios really had people that took care of their reputations.

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

Unclear, but may've been a date rape as they were shooting a picture together@that time. Because studios feared public scandals, they had guys on payroll called "fix it men." Loretta kept her baby daughter while studio looked for a way to cover it up. Loretta dropped out of sight, after birth adopted her own daughter. Don't know if Gable ever publically acknowledged daughter as his. Karma is a MoFo! Wife was killed in plane crash during war & Gable never quite got over it.

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

Forced himself on her. Really? How awful. He did see his daughter, but only once apparently.

[@pamelaiverson5527]

Loretta Young trying to the very end to maintain her holier than thou reputation. Gable wasn’t the first or last of her costars she had an affair with. Several co stars of the film they were in mentioned in their autobiographies that they had a hot affair during filming known to the entire cast. They didn’t even try to hide it. Between scenes and at night they disappeared together. At least she kept the baby but all her affection was given to her sons.

[@meganhuggins7494]

He did not force himself on her. They had an affair.

[@eileenhetherington3704]

@pamelaiverson5527 No. It was date rape. He took her out for dinner, and raped her afterwards. It is chronicled in several books, particularly the one written by his daughter Judy who was a child of that rape. Loretta was a devout Catholic. She certainly DID NOT have numerous affairs. Flirtations yes, not sexual relations.

[@theresachiorazzi4571]

I never thought Betty Davis was good looking but as an actress yes she was far from a glamour girl. Just my opinion.

[@victoriajarvis2260]

Bette.

[@sandrakenney567]

@@victoriajarvis2260 some spell her name as BETTY others spell her name as BETTE.and others spell her name as BETTIE .TO ME IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME JUST DIFFERENT ENDINGS IN THE( Y ) OR ( IE ) OR ( E)?????PICK ONE.MY DADDY HELPED ME TO WRITE THIS FOR MY NAME TO BE KNOWN .

[@sandrakenney567]

@thereschiorzzi4571 .BETTY TO YOU MAY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD LOOKING BUT BOY SHE WAS ONE GREAT ACTRESS AS MY NAN WHO LOVED HER AND STARS . AS SHE SAID AND ITS ON HER GRAVE STONE ; SHE DID IT THE HARD WAY .AND BOY SHE DID AND TOOK NO CRAP FROM ANYONE. REST IN PEACE TO HER AMEN GODBLESS YOU BETTE 🙏💖🌟🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌷🌹🌹🌹

[@sandrakenney567]

@theresachiororazzi4571 .she may not have been good looking which she knew herself .but my Nanny loved her and got me loving her to. I thought she was a great actress and played her parts well especially in Baby Jane.10/10.she even said in an interview once she enjoyed playing parts as an unattractive persin where Joan Crawford and others like her always played parts as the perfectionist then good looking woman.so around of 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏To BETTE for having guts in playing parts as what she enjoyed playing the most like in .HUSH HUSH SWEET CHARLOTTE ;QUEEN ELIZABETH WITH ERROL FLYNN AND BABY JANE AND IN LATER YEARS IN THE 1970S SHE PLAYED A PART ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS WITH THE PATCH ON HER EYE. SHE NEVER CARED OR LET PEOPLE OR THE PAPARAZZI GET TO HER WITH THEIR BAD MOUTHING ABOUT HER. FOR AS SHE ONCE SAID AND IT'S ON HER GRAVE STONE ; SHE DID IT THE HARD WAY.GOOD ON YOU BETTE.I ADMIRED YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY.REST IN PEACE AND GODBLESS YOU 🙏🕊🦋🕊🐬🙏AMEN. 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌟🙏💖

[@a.leemorrisjr.9255]

With all due respect for their talent, always felt Davis, Crawford, & Gardner had a certain hardness, an "ugliness" to them persona wise.

[@margaretlovecchio8316]

You say “nasty”, I think “narcissist”

[@jamesmcinnis208]

"Iconic" mustache- LOL

[@hemily54]

Marlene Dietrich was an emotionally stunted narcissist.

[@christinecremen4151]

Not according to David Nivrn.

[@Echo-tk8pz]

Reportedly, she was John Wayne’s close friend.

[@christinecremen4151]

* Niven * . Read his memoir , ' Bring On the Empty Horses '.

[@ThePiratemachine]

Good in "Witness For The Prosecution" - very good

[@ehanneken]

You might have mentioned that Loretta Young accused Clark Gable of non-consensual sex. (Nor sure if KZbin will allow me to use the word I want.)

[@eileenhetherington3704]

No, she never accused him. She blamed herself. Thats unfortunately what occurred with many young actresses in Hollywood, except that he raped and impregnated her and she didnt believe in abortion. She was Catholic and also very young and naive about the movie biz and what goes on. They were working on a film together and he raped her one night after they had a late dinner. The studio hid the pregnancy and shielded Gable.

[@user-pinckneysux]

A sign of the times.

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

@@eileenhetherington3704 So he did r..e her then?

[@eileenhetherington3704]

@user-fq8rs7rz3i Absolutely yes he did. She was very traumatized. Her daughter Judy wrote a book about her mother. She says that Gable, her father,(she was the child from the attack), never made any effort to see her. Loretta revealed the details of this traumatic event to her daughter late in life.

[@paden1865able]

Nice glossing over the fact that the studio system used and abused Garland until she was addicted to drugs and alcohol, along with ruining her health. Her mother didn't do anything to help, she enforced what the studio did to her daughter.

[@catlady6165]

Gable loved his friend Hatti Mc Daniel. They would prank each other other on the set of Gone with the Wind.

[@cue111]

His breath stunk

[@ATLmodK]

Bette Davis eyes are symptomatic with hyperthyroidism

[@mictheghost2626]

The AI voice keeps mispronouncing Bette Davis. A little annoying.

[@KateCrimson]

It mispronounces more names than it gets right. It is definitely MORE than a little annoying!

[@alancrisp1582]

😢 They say never meet your heroes in real life, as you might be very disappointed ?. I myself did , and i was !!...........................

[@ThePiratemachine]

William Holden said people are disappointed when they meet me because I'm not the character I played. I'm an ACTOR

[@Diane-od1tz]

Say all the bad things you want, I love all these stars 😂😂😂❤

[@rhondabryant667]

Why?? Christ is Lord, not stars!!!

[@noreenclark2568]

Ms Davis had beautiful eyes , and while not devastatingly good-looking she did have something about her that turned heads male and female

[@libertygiveme1987]

@noreenclark - Now see, I ALWAYS thought, in her HEY DAY, she was VERY STRIKING!!!!

[@glennso47]

What about Harry Cohn, the CEO of Columbia Pictures. He was the producer of the 3 Stooges and he kept their popularity from them so he could pay them less than what they were worth to the company.

[@SteveCarras]

Gable did famously have bad breath. Wonder if he used it to threaten her lol greatnera tho

[@lindafurr2404]

Mickey Rooney knew Judy Garland very well and he said no one got her hooked on drugs except herself. I would rather believe him than all these people who didn’t know her.

[@triciaselman9215]

Don't believe they knew LM either

[@Huckster-tj9if]

Bogart aka DOA at his own funeral age 57. Widow Lauren Bacall left Episcopal Church thru the side entrance

[@gy2gy246]

I think Judy Garland could have been bipolar, something that wasn't recognized at that time. Her dependence on drugs, encouraged by the studios, made the situation worse. Wayne's views on white supremacy isn't news here, for those of us who grew up watching his films. The photo at 16:05 is Garbo, not Dietrich.

[@AmyKristine]

Really I've heard that John Wayne gave the eulogy at Ward bonds funeral

[@libertygiveme1987]

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT that Gable "OWNED THE ROOM" when Vivien was around!!!! As far as Crawford, when I was reading the book, "Mommie Dearest," my mother said - "I believe the book. She had Evil Eyes." Bettie Davis was one of the BEST ACTRESSES, but I wouldn't want to be on her BAD SIDE!!!! And Bogart, he was an INSECURE JERK!!!! Yeah, Deitrich was, shall we say, a LOOSE WOMAN!!!! And what was with those Eyebrows of hers?! Leigh was "BI POLAR". Personally, I think the MAJORITY of Actors are BI-POLAR!!!! And EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOTHER KNOWS Grant was a TIGHTWAD!!!!

[@ThePiratemachine]

Well they say insecurity creates creativity - something like that.

[@libertygiveme1987]

@@ThePiratemachine Maybe there's something to that.

[@speedracer1945]

Cary Grant as I read about him that he took LSD to try to treat his identity problems. If it helped dunno dunno

[@mitni4579]

You forgot Jerry Lewis…

[@TheTerryGene]

Bette Davis’s name is pronounced “Betty,” NOT “Bet.”

[@cc1k435]

That's AI technology for you.

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

Bette Midler's name was not pronounced Betty.

[@therealdachshunddjangosmom]

Thank you!🙏

[@therealdachshunddjangosmom]

@@JackMason-oq8lfI never understood, why it is „Betty“ with Bette Davis, but „Bet“ with Bette Midler😅

[@Glenonica1]

He did a lot of mispronunciations through out.

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

Bette Davis said Clark Gable had breath like a camel because he never brushed his teeth

[@user-kv6jb5gl7p]

Sometimes in everyone's life, they acts or appear to act like a Jerk. Sometimes, to get ahead in a career you can appear as Jerk. The is more than a little truth that "Nice Guys, finish Last, and that may goes double for women". Also, using present days standards to characterize long dead people's statements or actions is somewhat problematic.

[@lesafowers8142]

What!!! No Orson Welles!!! I guess he needs a whole program to himself to understand the term Orwellian. Bigger than life and a jerk too. Loved all of the info on my new favorite thing.The study of classic film and all that Hollywood gave birth to is fascinating. Just became a new follower. Thanks so much!!!💋💋💋

[@thevintagearchives]

thanks for watching and for your lovely comment! P.S. thanks for subscribing ♥️

[@jennilane5816]

The term, “Orwellian”, refers to George Orwell, the author who wrote 1984, and Animal Farm - not Orson Welles.

[@ThePiratemachine]

Yet Rita Hayworth said he was the true love of her life.

[@ThePiratemachine]

@@jennilane5816I thought it was sarcasm.

[@jacquelinemarie1078]

kathy and cindy didn't come along into the Crawford home until later, they have no idea what happened in the house before their arrival. And - - - they were left a few dollars, so they're keeping their mouths shut. To even consider their input makes no sense at all!!!

[@jeffmills9031]

The narrator mispronounced bette and John Huston just like the city, not the other way. As far as Judy Garland is concerned, you can put that solely on Louis B. Mayer. When Judy was filming gwtw, mayer often told her that she was too fat and insisted she take diet pills and often starved her. I'm pretty sure that's how her chemical dependency began.

[@dcasper8514]

Judy Garland was in The Wizard of Oz, not Gone with the wind.

[@carolineroberts9352]

How the hell does someone mispronounce as well known a name as Bette Davis? To present one's self as an expert on Hollywood and then REPEATEDLY mispronounce the name of a legendary Hollywood icon......

[@elliotskydel875]

Uh she wasn't in gwtw.

[@megancrager4397]

Because it's AI technology. It's a robot.

[@LindaStoronsky-yk4df]

You mean the Wizard of Oz.

[@carpenterbluechicken]

I read about John Wayne he went to Vietman and started a fightm someone asked him if he served he never served and nmanaged to avoid the draft being married and having a few children, his career was more importatnt to him.

[@albertmorris6162]

Clark Gargoyle.

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

Yep. Rotten teeth, bat ears and pock marked skin. They took all his teeth out and gave him falsies, pinned his ears back and sand blasted his skin. And made him grow a tash to cover up a flaw under his nose. You just know that they do that today. Most ‘stars’ are quite plain.

[@blissfulsunnyday]

​@@user-fq8rs7rz3isome stars could be so overrated. their image of being ‘handsome’ or ‘beautiful’ are very well worked by their producer or media. we can find beautiful people everywhere even more beautiful than actors or actresses, they’re just not famous.

[@proudtobeautistic]

I'm surprised Mickey Rooney wasn't included on this list.

[@hartspot009]

"Bett" 🙄

[@jamesmcdonald5026]

Many entertainers are bipolar 😑

[@zyxvwu]

Has this channel done an editorial on how Hollywood used and abused these actors, particularly the females; rape, pedophilia, forced abortion, controlling through drugs, etc. Julie Garland's life was horrific.

[@keithabney4665]

who's Julie Garland?

[@zyxvwu]

@@keithabney4665 Wow... how about looking her up instead of asking, put that lonely brain cell to work.

[@williamj.crofts41]

​@@zyxvwu.. Maybe it's because Julie Garland was really Judy? Don't be deliberately obtuse

[@zyxvwu]

@@williamj.crofts41 is this how you make yourself feel better? Good luck 😅

[@mapachehombre1581]

Bette Davis eyes, Graves disease a condition that pushes the eyeballs forward causing them to protrude

[@johnwilliamson3981]

"Bet" Davis? You must be joking.

[@gogoyubari366]

Judy Garland was so pretty and so was Bette Davis and Joan Crawford!

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

I have some experience with having authority figures who have these tendencies. It might be narcissistic personality disorder or one of the many similar things. I've read horror stories. Many of them are simply abusive. But often, it's MUCH more subtle. They can slowly drive their victims insane while making it seem they're this incredibly loving and compassionate caretaker who gives everything to their victims. And even if the victims want to confide in someone, it might be very difficult to express just what the problem is. Then they come off as the vindictive ones. Believe me this is absolutely possible. Because it's behavior. Not things that they do that are specifically abusive. Imagine hearing that wire hanger story from the abuser. "She said you made a big fuss over wire hangers." "Well I suppose I may have made a fuss but she knows that's a particularly sore spot with me. Why I can't tell you how many times I've made it clear that wire hangers are too destructive to the clothing. I've gone on and on about it. Remember that blue dress that I loved so much? It was my mothers and well, it's just a dress but... And then I find out she's using them. I felt as though she used them on purpose just because she knows how much I hate them. I don't know why she's always seemed to just hate me so much." They can turn things around and make it seem like they're the victim. And everything they do has this plausible deniability built in. It's insidious. So, it's not surprising to me in the LEAST that the friends never witnessed any abuse. Another common tactic for these abusers is to have a golden child who they heap praise and adoration upon and the others are expected to live up to them whether or not they're deserving. So it doesn't surprise me that the others didn't experience it either. BUT, that also doesn't mean I've tried and hung her already. I don't know what happened. All things equal it's probably more likely that there was abuse going on. But that doesn't mean I know it happened. Those might be subtle distinctions but I think they're important. You don't have to land on one side or the other until you have all the facts. I don't. I probably never will. So I can never say for sure what happened. But some of the children in her care not experiencing it doesn't clear her. If you have experienced anything like this or if you are experiencing it, the first thing I'd tell you to do is research. Once something has a name it has less power. If you find out, he, she, they, whoever they might happen to be, is narcissistic for example, now you know what it is. It has a name. There are people who know about it. There are steps to take. And maybe most importantly of all, it's not you. You're not crazy. There really is something wrong. Then, I highly recommend Reddit's support community for victims of narcissism. You're never going to change them or convince them they were wrong. Because they're wired differently. They're not like you. And also, you're not like them. If their negativity has rubbed off on you, it's temporary. Find other people you can connect with. Real people. See how they live. How warm and generous they are just as a matter of course. The whole world is not they way they say it is. At that point, you can slowly begin to take back much of the power they've stolen from you. There's a long road ahead of you but so many good things to come. Good luck.

[@trudieristich795]

The twins probably didn't get any bad treatment. They got special treatment as far as Christina and her brother. I feel so sad for them because nothing like getting adopted. I would just be like great fun to get adopted into this crazy b**** Always trying to put on a show. Don't wonder the other people didn't see it. It's not like she was gonna do it in front of them.

[@cue111]

True. There was years difference in the adopted twins than the other two.i believe it

[@Pluviophile218]

It's Cary Grant, not Carrie Grant.

[@hettyphilips]

Vivien Leigh was known to have mental health issues, l still think she's wonderful.

[@SteveCarras]

Betty Davis not bet Davis Mr Narrator

[@michaelcoonce6694]

I read B D Hymans book and it wasnt near as bad as mommy dearest.

[@nadyarossi5102]

Hyman should be ashamed of herself! Ingrate!

[@mousemd]

Sounds like Leigh was a very good cast for Scarlett

[@arturodiaz1063]

Clark Gable's had no teeth of his own. He wore dentures.

[@TheRealFamespear]

Joan Crawford and Bette Davis were always my least favorite stars of that era. I found them terribly unattractive and both just seemed like horrible people.

[@Czechbound]

That AI voice is pretty good

[@jaccusefashion]

So what was wrong with Gable again? Nothing? He stood up for Black actors.

[@caroljeanscott5571]

I always hated Frank Sinatra singing. I just found him really dreary. The only song that I liked him singing was High Hopes.

[@maggiegarber246]

I never thought much of Sinatra’s singing, either.

[@AlphonsodeBarbo]

Joan even looked like a witch!

[@eagandereagander6471]

In a word: egos! Self-entitled narcissists.

[@diannemiller1895]

One could make opinions bout ea one but the one i find most disturbing is maybe Ava Gardner. She supposedly wanted motherhood and family life. She loved babies and being around them. While we might not know if there were any other pregnancies, she did have one with Sinatra. Why an abortion if she wanted her own child. Wouldn't that tske priority over her ending relationship eith Sinatra ? Think that mistake caused her much anguish and lonliness.

[@user-pf6ib3ue5s]

Said Gable feared Earl Flynn

[@ferociousgumby]

WHO is "BET" Davis? Are these millennial narrators so ignorant that they don't know how to pronounce her name? She was the most legendary screen actress in all of history. BET???

[@sandrakenney567]

@ferociousgumby. You BET

[@robertdoherty2001]

Ironically that’s how she intended her name to be pronounced; the ‘’Betty’’ pronunciation stuck. When Bette Midler first came along I assumed her name was ‘’Betty’’. Nope.

[@robertwalker5521]

Think about BUTTE, Montana. An alternate pronunciation

[@sandrakenney567]

@@robertwalker5521 She could be spelled Bety or Bettie or Bette and as you say Butty

[@rinlo1424]

It's a computer voice and you have no idea how old the person who uploaded it is. I absolutely despise AI narrations, but I'm not about to blame an entire generation for them. Most of them are made by people who don't live in English speaking countries anyway.