This is totally not a 3D Scam Right? RIGHT?

[@UncleJessy]

They posted an update along with a demo of their prototype kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4rNm5ekbK51Zrssi=K_3S_jL_Ur6boDeu

[@WarrenPenner]

Looks good but the message I got was it would be better to wait for version 2. 😊

[@butterham7]

Please do a update video I injoyed this video

[@vulpix9210]

Looks less like a scam and more like a very early stage prototype. Idk. This may actually become a thing by 2026. Still could be a scam. I would be skeptical but wouldn't label it a scam.

[@reyalPRON]

@@vulpix9210 like always, time will show :)

[@vulpix9210]

@@reyalPRON I agree, I'm interested in it but won't spend a dime on it till there are reputable sources with working units

[@MIngleing]

They are faking the “[Name] bought LOOP”. A Quick Look at the page source shows they all exist and the JavaScript just randomly shows one. This whole thing is a scam

[@jpjokela1]

One very obvious way to test that, even for "less technical people", simply enter the web page, and look at ordering information get updated even after you put your system offline :D

[@Whetzell]

The height is clearly taller than the depth in the render and not in the specs. Scam for sure.

[@MetalPhreakAU]

fakeSalesPopOrders is in the javascript, they didn't even try to obfuscate it.

[@kimnielsen9320]

@@Whetzell Exactly . The picture of the product do not match the listed specs of dimensions

[@oriontherealironman]

I was thinking exactly about this, thanks for checking it.

[@Pr0t0typeSky]

as someone who has recycled their filament, just throwing filament in a cheap blender is a quick way to destroy a cheap blender

[@ThisisDD]

Depends on how you modify it 😏

[@mikebergman1817]

🤣👌

[@superslacker87]

Bought a used food processor to try it. Ruined it in minutes.

[@daliasprints9798]

Yes because you can't dump the heat. Try doing it submerged in water.

[@ItsKardamin]

Which method do you use for recycling filament? It's something I'd really love to do one day.

[@f8keuser]

Pop ups of people "per-ordering" No details about the creator No details about who is working on this project No details and or indepth workings on how they got to where they are today No indication of any prototype and or previous prototypes. Only showing renders. This pretty much fits every box this is a scam. I hope people do not back this product..

[@Littlebrownchicken]

Unless it does exist

[@ScytheNoire]

Thomas Sanladerer just released a video nearly the same time showing off 3devo's new $18K shredder and $17K filament maker. Those are real products, and they are large, and required to be as large as they are to do the job. This machine is a total scam. It's not a "potential scam", it is 100% guaranteed scam.

[@reyalPRON]

so said ppl about micronics sls printer. it also competes with machines costing multiple factors more. it seems to be a little too good to be true to me as well. so we will have to wait and see?

[@makewithloop]

Demo day November 23rd. We've already made new filament, from 3d print waste, all using our Loop prototype. Feel free to attend and verify!

[@monetary_episode494]

​@@makewithloopi will be there. Just a quick question though, how many preorders? (100$ deposits)

[@GAMEOVR64]

So...about this being a scam....

[@reyalPRON]

this aged well..

[@zakspop]

For that price I'd rather buy 100 spools of filament.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

indeed. And that filament you buy (rather than make) will be more reliable.

[@mrrooter601]

yeah for home recycling to be viable, a all in one machine is going to have to be under 300, even under 200 for non enthusiasts. assuming like 10-20% of your filament is waste or failed prints you would still need to have at least the waste of 20 rolls of filament (not counting printing recycled filament again and also re using that waste) to even get close to it paying for itself even at 300$@15/kilo (recycled at home with no additives is not going to be any better than bottom of the barrel pla, even the super cheap stuff like r3d at like 9$/kilo is probably better). ~100 spools used for ~20 spools of waste @20% thus saving you 300$ @15$/kg, thats a hell of a lot of filament to use to pay for itself, assuming nothing ever goes wrong and you get 100% recylability (you wont). the numbers are even worse at 10% and thats just my best guess, maybe some have even less waste, and of course thats assuming you keep ALL of your filament clean and sorted. I really hope there is a good home solution, but this isnt it, even if it worked flawlessly.

[@StevenHughes0]

I'd pay the money to reduce the waste I'm putting into the environment. I assume it doesn't work as well as advertised unfortunately

[@mrrooter601]

@@StevenHughes0 well if money is of no issue then you can just send it to a 3dp filament recycling plant. plenty exist, though IDK if any will send you back YOUR filament recycled directly. which is really the other benefit of recycling at home, controlling color, should you choose to sort your waste first. Right now the only rational reason to recycle filament at home, is saving money. without absurdly high volumes, and time consuming (and still expensive) self built recyclers, is just not possible to have a reasonable ROI. sure sending the stuff out to a company isnt as convenient but its likely better for the environment than normal plastic bin "recycling". I know there is one paid plan that is just a prepaid bin that you fill it up with pla. Which you then send it off, and then get filament in return. or something to that effect.

[@wickedhippie8992]

Zyltech 5kg spools for $79.95.

[@sjschauer4235]

My scam sense is screaming that this is nothing but vaporware. Too many inconsistencies between the specs, renders, and overall design.

[@thekkidd3d]

If this wasn't a scam it wouldn't be hidden behind 5 different info walls.

[@MBlusky09]

It's not. Just enter your email.

[@makewithloop]

haha understandable skepticism. Just a teaser page 🙃 this video was posted...maybe 4 days after our landing page went live. We had zero idea we'd get such a high amount of attention so quickly. Full website will be live shortly after demo day November 23rd. Everyone on our email list will have a demo day email shortly.

[@VincentAnzalone]

@@makewithloop who's the CEO?

[@jimmccorison]

I'm not commenting on any other aspect of this, but using a privacy shield when registering a domain is a widespread practice for legitimate companies. It prevents you from receiving massive amounts of spam, junk calls, and scam attempts.

[@merreborn]

Years ago I worked for a very early stage startup running out of a house the founders rented and lived in. A user of our small website used domain registration info to visit the property unannounced and uninvited during the workday. I've used whois anonymization ever since.

[@jocelyndrolet4610]

Retired engineer here, printing for 7-8 years. 100% SCAM 100%. They should sue those responsibles for this before they collect too much money from honest people.

[@guilhermecarvalhotrindade2625]

This is absolutely a scam. That's unfortunate, because we could really use such a product.

[@AndrewSink]

I prefer to recycle my filament the old fashioned way: grumbling and sweeping it into a trash can 😂

[@UncleJessy]

🤣Is there another way?

[@ThePeriodicTableOfElements]

hahah!!

[@markburton5292]

@@UncleJessy well your molds is another way.. I saw someone use them to make roofing tiles for awning (for abs and petg not pla)

[@godonholiday]

So landfill basically.

[@WisePenguin007]

@@UncleJessy You can do it without the grumbling 🤣

[@Oddprints]

Glad to see the big influencers start putting on their skeptic hats instead of pitching every product they can get an affiliate link for.

[@chrisspyroman]

The main thing is,is not whether or not its possible,but whether or not it can actually do it consistently,as most 3d printers need specifically ~1.75mm width for the filament. That's the issue. Because working with PLA itself is not *that* difficult, but having 1.75mm width over hundreds of metres of filament can be extremely difficult.

[@HotRodHippie]

They claim ".01mm accuracy" but show an image of filament measuring 2mm in the same info card... 🤣

[@XAD566]

🤔 with the dimensions in mind that extruded filament look more like 1/2” filament

[@TheAndyroo770]

Could they make filament slightly over 1.75mm, then pull it through a metal ring that is 1.75mm while hot to conform the final diameter?

[@kazolar]

ChatGPT design a plastic recycling system to spool on to 1KG spools. Looks about right

[@gillesmaranda5495]

If this is real and there isn't a prototype made we are heading straight for a disaster. There will be so many different problems from the onset of production I don't think I would go near it until after a full year has passed, if the company survives. Let's see what happens next. Uncle Jessy thank you for taking the time to make a video on this and sharing your concerns.

[@Napa39]

2:36 In my experience, a majority of sites that have that sort of "X just bought Y!" are scam sites trying to entice you into buying their product with fake hype. Not all of them, but a very large portion of them...

[@garthhowe297]

This product does not pass my "sniff" test. Thanks for making others aware of it.

[@SkateSoup]

I run my own domain registrations through a privacy service as well, but when you can't order yet, and theres a scroll saying who ordered.....yeah thats sus.

[@ArgonautArcade]

If they only post 3d renders, its usually too good to be true

[@GreenHatAnimation]

If they have a 3d model already just send me the stl and I'll print my own

[@b3owu1f]

But.. But.. they are coming to market soon they said.. for sure that is sincere.. right? RIGHT?

[@orangethesaberguy7638]

I’m extremely skeptical, but hopeful it becomes an actual product. The fact they don’t even have prototype product pictures is throwing red flags though

[@GeekDetour]

Uncle Jessy, MY GOODNESS! I think you are absolutely right. If it doesn't show how it works inside, it is just SMOKE.

[@johncowdrick]

I thought this might be too good to be true. This is the only video I found about this product. Thanks for looking out for the 3d printing community.

[@redavatar]

There's many red flags but the weird one is: why not set the retail price a lot lower? Why not make it a $700 device to entice more buyers & keep the deposit the same? If it's truly a scam then they put in a lot of effort only to then make dumb mistakes that limit the amount of people who would fall for it since that amount of money is insane. Even for $1400, you need to recover at least 100 kg of filament before it starts making sense and even then you'll have a lower quality brown-ish filament. Who would want that? Even print farms won't use brown that much in their prints and they'd be the only ones that have 100kg of waste!

[@davydatwood3158]

The price makes it seem more plausible, though. The Artme3D kit that CNCKitchen looked at is 675 euros just for a kit. An actual assembled system isn't going to cost less than that! Not that I'm saying this is real, but 1400$ as a "just over cost to generate hype" price feels like what a working version might actually cost.

[@MrTBoneSF]

Maybe because the number of people willing to spend $700 and then get antsy about their $100 deposit is much higher and are not willing to wait as long. People putting down $100 on something they ultimately have to pay $1400 (or more) are probably going to be more patient and accept more "sorry guys, we didn't anticipate how long it would take.. " and "we want to make sure it's the highest quality, so we made some changes". They can even play the "We're not making something cheap, and quality takes time. You don't want some cheap, disposable product do you?" card. They'll even convince other backers to guilt those people asking for a refund ("It's just $100! Don't buy Starbucks for a week!"). We've seen it happen with other Kickstarter/Pre-Orders/etc. Get a few (gullible) true believers and they can kick the can down the road for YEARS. Every few months they just have to put out a "This is an email I never wanted to write but I have to be transparent with you guys. Our supplier didn't meet our high standards so we had to find another. Uh oh, it's Chinese New Year, so we have to wait another month to get a hold of someone new before we can start the whole process all over again." Occasionally add "We're actually losing money on the Early Bird order so please be patient" and maybe a "We've mortgaged our houses and have to do contracting work to make ends meet. Don't you feel bad for asking for your piddling $100 back?"

[@ethanpierce3004]

'...You'd need to recover at least 100kg of...' -looks at the bags of failed prints and waste in my shed ive saved over the last year. Some of us are awaiting a product like this. 💀

[@randomblock1_]

Filament recyclers are about that expensive, it's a hard problem to solve. It'd actually be even more suspicious if it was that cheap. It's already suspicious it's this cheap.

[@TheBigGSN5]

With your recycled filament, you can print a DVD rewinder.

[@kensai87]

I prefer to rewind my DVDs by hand. It helps reduce wear on the laser.

[@johnlawrence1296]

I made 3 of them already. They are extremely bulky. Starting to run out of room.

[@jigneshjhaveri]

@@kensai87😂

[@_B_K_]

Unless you are okay with just giving money away, pre-orders are never a good idea. Things go on sale, so if you're chasing savings, just wait until whatever it is that you want to get goes on normal sale. Pre-orders are risky and we see how folks get burned over and over by fake promises. I get that some companies need some funds to put something in production, but if you do end up helping with that, just know that you're taking on the risk of it not going through.

[@AveryDelMiller]

Glad you made a video on this! I've also seen the ads, and while it's a nice idea I need to see a prototype before I'd cough up any money. I'm very skeptical of the blender as being a good solution for grinding filament, and the website just being a $100 deposit landing page is somewhat concerning. But I'm dying for a recycling solution like this.

[@leesmithsworkshop]

Toms new video really shows just how hard it is to recycle filament.

[@mrmidnight32]

This 1000% looks like someone who is interested in 3d printing who’s learned what people want. But doesn’t understand how it works first hand and found a way to scam people for a few years by paying a render company to make a random model of their general description.

[@MEDiumInc]

In 5 years Bambu Labs will make this, but it will have automatic Material separation using super LiDar scanning. It will dehydrate the filament for you, package it, and take only 10 seconds to set up out of the box. But it will still cost $1500

[@ashleywhitehead3710]

No they won't. For a start that's not how lidar works and second filament recycling is not a cost-effective solution to the problem. If anything bambu labs will develop a printer with a tool changer. This will practically eliminate the problem of filament waste from multi material systems and open up other capabilities with printing. Printers like this will cost more but still be a cheaper solution over all than a viable filament recycler. If Bambu do it right then it will be modular, meaning you will be able to purchase printheads to add to the printer as you can afford them. Same idea as the expandable AMS system they currently have.

[@NefariousElasticity]

Bambu Lab doesn't offer products based on fundamentally flawed concepts, so probably not. We're far more likely to see them offer a pellet-fed extruder option.

[@AT4W]

Yeah, I sincerely doubt this is a real thing - the $100 down-payment just seals it as a scam. If it were real, why not have a video showing off a prototype in action? Only thing I could see from this is someone looking at the design of the fake one and going "Hmmm, I bet I could build that" and then ACTUALLY making the product, or maybe an actual 3D printer company trying to make something like it and relatively affordable.

[@fluffycritter]

9:45 I don't have an issue with the animation showing the filament being fed through the little thing in the bottom, because they're also showing animations of other parts being taken off and put on without it being automatic. It's clearly just meant to evoke the actions that the user will take in setting it up. That isn't to say I think this is a legitimate product, as I'm super skeptical about it. But there's nothing that indicates that it's going to "magically" self-feed through the thing.

[@PYROWORKSTV]

That thing is just not feasible. You'd need at least 400 spools worth of material before it pays for itself.

[@ryandowney9383]

I'm suspicious that the proportions in the description is significantly different than the rendered picture.

[@Erlandsson1964]

As someone who do shred and extrude myself, you need a LOT of torque in a shredder to be able to shred pieces bigger than a couple of centimeters. Needs thick steel blades and slow speed to not heat the plastic. Shredding in a blender is not possible. Because of the high speed and low torque. I have tried, does not work.

[@MatInCat-gd-more]

I saw this online, and I added it to my cart, and it said the cost was only 100 dollars, not 2k... seems very scammy to me, as they didn't say it was a deposit fee

[@matt-lang]

This definitely seems like a student project that's gotten out of hand...

[@ge2719]

yeah, like someone in uni learning 3d modelling designed this for class. and one of their friends had the genius idea "lets make ourselves a scam"....

[@LanchburyConsultingLLC]

Considering you can buy 1Kg spools of PLA for $9 if you shop around, that's over 160 home-recycled spools you're going to have to produce before you break even (and that's excluding the electricity cost). The whole rendered simulation just screams "scam!" A junk PLA recycler is one of those dream things that people would love to see, but just like car engines that run on tap water, they belong in fantasy land. We all want quality PLA, so expecting this thing to filter out impurities and other junk while producing a filament at a perfect diameter is too much to ask. Well done for posting a warning.

[@squarebarreloffrogs]

Where can you get spools of pla for $9? Lol

[@LanchburyConsultingLLC]

@@squarebarreloffrogs Kingroon have been selling them for a few months and I've been stocking up on them. Go directly to their online store.

[@LanchburyConsultingLLC]

@@squarebarreloffrogs Kingroon. They've been selling them for months, and I have loads of them.

[@JSGilbert]

You would probably need to recycle over 100 kilos of material to come close to getting your $1,500 back. I’m guessing that amount of waste would take me 75 years to accumulate.

[@electrode74]

Thank you for the video Jesse. I just watched last night and happened across a Facbook ad for loop today. I made some inquiries and it went downhill quick. I called them out for a scam and had a dialog with a "representative" after posting a link to this video. I was then PM'ed by said representative asking to remove my comments. I was then asked if I wanted to make a deal and was even offered money to keep "quiet", he then started deleting the conversation and I told him I took a screenshot. From what I've been able to gather, this scam is running out of India and last thing I told him is that I would call them out every ad I see.

[@marsgizmo]

cool “ChatGPT engineering” 😂😂

[@UncleJessy]

😂🤣

[@oleklabisch644]

nobody gonna mention the horrible ai generated backgrounds? Like, nothing there makes any sense if you look for longer than than a second

[@JohnVanderbeck]

I love how it magically feeds itself around a corner and through a series of holes.

[@phetzer504]

You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll kiss a hundred bucks goodbye! This looks like a major scam, I am betting kickstarter wouldn't even touch it.

[@rackrobo]

This video is really well put together. Your editing style is awesome. Definitely teaching us a bit lol

[@saltyscorpion2151]

While it fills the spool, just say, "Earl Grey, hot," and enjoy a nice cup of tea while you wait.

[@StabbyMcStabwood]

I backed the bambu Kickstarter so Ive had it for a minute, and Ive kept ALL of my waste, and kept it all segregated. The box the X1C shipped in is completely full, as well as some 5 gallon buckets. I desperately need a product like this to become reality.

[@theredstormer8078]

Just got an ad for this and had to look it up. If a company made one of these for real then everyone would be talking about it already.

[@grinningtiki220]

Why blend? What about having a heated funnel instead with thicker gauge output that then goes to the correct size?

[@مسلم-ط8ق1س]

at its price i can buy 80 filaments live for years maybe this defice will broke and never give this number of filaments add awatts of electricity

[@mypipeaccount6575]

Jessy, that "privacy filter" is industry standard. Every correctly configured website uses a whoisguard service. Still a scam, but the whois information is a red herring.

[@illusionmanager]

look at the sharp bend the filament makes at 3:32 from the machine to the spool. Wouldn't that break the filament?

[@bunnyninjaface]

probably not, filament is pretty bendy, probably more so if it’s warm.

[@Wang_Thunder]

I don't know if everyone realizes this, but you can build a DIY filament extruder for less than $100. That is retail, with no volume leverage. The fact that desktop extruders are still $500+ is insane.. It's honestly shocking that there hasn't been a cheap commercial product yet.

[@nope8637]

We just need a company to do this at scale. You mail in like 3kg of PLA they mail you back a 1kg spool. Plus they sell the remaining as a recycled PLA at a slight discount so you could use it for test prints or things you don't care about certain colors.

[@Flightcontrol96]

I love the idea of recycling old filament, but what so many of these products get wrong is that for mass adoption it needs to be cheaper overall to recycle than to buy fresh material

[@boboscurse4130]

Yeah, the spool should be in line with the filament exiting the machine, right?

[@crishudson1499]

Looks like they are re-writing physics......

[@melodiclodgings8]

There are a lot of parts that don't seem to fit well together, like the filter is gonna get clogged often requiring constant cleaning, where is the shredded plastic being moved and how is the already shredded plastic going to be moved around to get adequately heated and given how it comes out at the end you will have to cool it down drastically and manually insert the extruded filament through the sensors which look very small and may not work. I would need a whole tear down video of how this works and does it actually work well if it exists in the first place

[@Ashgar225]

It's pretty standard to run the domain registration through a privacy service for individuals. Companies don't have to do this of course, but they might not have a corporate address yet (although if they're taking money, they really, really should).

[@tyguy5466]

There is a problem with anything to due with recycling is you can't send the same polymer time and time again through recycling it starts to degrade your print is the 3rd gen of melting for your plastic. When you start to recycle yor prints you get in to the 5 gen of melting which can leed to problems.

[@jedstanaland2897]

When I was in the military 3d printing was basically brand new and this kind of solution existed but it was about twice the size of your average tower PC. It was workable and the way it worked was actually fairly easy and simple. First it would grind up the materials with two or three sets of counter rotating helical grinders stacked on top of each other. Then once the material got through the grinding machine it would drop into a tub. The tub once full would seal itself and then heat the entire tub that would until the at last some of the material was melted then from there using a lot of pressure to force the now melted material through a series of heated tubes that can be changed to determine the size of the filament afterwards. There was also a version that had the user empty the tub into a second which was heated and compressed and one that used a hot worm screw system.

[@Reds3DPrinting]

People might believe this because of how unbelievable 3d printing has become in the past year or so. Its just amazing. Sad people are trying to take advantage of people like this

[@ge2719]

i dont think many of those people would plonk down a grand and a half based on just a cg render though...

[@Reds3DPrinting]

@@ge2719 Hopefully not..

[@boggisthecat]

We had a plastic grinder at my old workplace. It was for grinding off-machine samples down into pellets for melt viscosity testing. The samples had to be cut into pieces a few cc in size (less than a cubic inch, for Americans), then that could be ground by the machine. Three-phase motor, weighed about 100 kg. Grinders for serious work were more car-sized.

[@NefariousElasticity]

That's my biggest concern looking at the device itself. You need way more than a food processor to pelletize source plastic to a usable size for extrusion, especially considering most failed prints will be fairly dense, and food processors have a funny way of turning plastic to dust, and then melting that dust around the blades over time.

[@JG-mz7hg]

Don't waste your time with concept renders without even showing any functional prototype.

[@ericblenner-hassett3945]

I can see how this could be a potential real product, just not how it is shown. A modified blender could have a mesh filter letting small enough granuals through to a hopper that feeds into what the rest of the recycling systems use. For the size and the 2 location extrusion, it could be possible to have a " purge " system for one, the first mixed and melted to remove potential issue filament segments. I agree with you on the distance all that melted and pressurised plastics have to go to the spoiling nossil makes no sense without any kind of feedback on diameter.

[@parker73724]

Large manufacturers have been trying to do this for years, I don't believe that this random startup flawlessly created a solution for this problem that works reliably. The only question I have about this thing is if the creators realize they are scamming people or if they genuinely believe this will make it to market. Regardless, even if it's somehow not a scam no normal hobbyist will ever recycle enough filament to make it make sense financially. They might not even shred enough to offset the environmental impact of making the unit.

[@jb1139]

I don't understand why recycling your stuff doesn't have reasonably price solution. Especially from one of the ed printer manufacturers. Ive got oodles of pla scrap and resin saturated alcohol that I just don't know what to do with them.

[@jimford1226]

regarding the noise dampening, if you go to starbucks they have a shield they put over the blender which does cut the noise down a lot. it's not a little door thing tho, it's like a big bin thing that fits over top.

[@amack32]

Design flaw in the spool also. The hole design should be big enough to pop on your printer when it fills the spool with recycled filament and insert the empty spool back on the machine to make new recycled filament when your printer is using the recycled spool for projects. Should come with 2 spools for that reason.

[@shinaikouka]

I don't see how little tiny blender blades would adequately shred 3D prints or at least the majority of a 3D print. I could see the blades impacting the models and tossing them around more than actually shredding them. (Their goofy render even shows benchies just being tossed around.) There's a reason why some of the fancy setups shown by creators like Dr. D-Flo use grind-style mechanisms (like a paper shredder) for destroying the 3D prints.

[@deathjunior7755]

I think that 23 inch "depth" number is in fact the height. Which would make sense. The renders seem pretty close to scale if you imagine it as 16 inches deep, 23 inches tall, 10 inches wide. Still can't say if it's bs or not but the scale of the render atleast makes sense with those dimensions. I'd also say that blender blade would be enough to blend pla fine enough, but it would take forever unless the only thing your feeding to it is tree supports and Bambulab poop.

[@PlanetaVoxel]

El único canal en inglés que amo siempre que me lo recomienda el algoritmo, abrazo tío Jessi.

[@Kolotia_Li]

Actully, due to the material stretching path of this product, I prefer to believe that it is to put the Filament that you put on into the shredder and shred it. Rather than recycler some waste..

[@denism7276]

Thank you for spreading the word about this scam.

[@alex3dlabs]

They also changed the dimensions on their site. 27" tall and 16" deep now.

[@gark64]

how do they reconcile the proportional differences in the rendering vs the listed measurements? It's not even going to be the same shape as their renderings, much less the same size.

[@zeke7100]

I've been noticing a lot with these 3d print recycle things that they are GOD AWFUL expensive for something that is literally made out of $5 worth of 3d printed parts and maybe like $50 in hardware. Yet costs like $700+

[@daringdarius5686]

Ignoring the scam portion as it's already been made clear it absolutely is, for those wanting to make one of these and a company out of it: As somebody who has already gone through 50 spools as a "definitely not enthusiast" I would be willing to purchase one for $500, maybe even $800-1,000 The $1,500 with 40% discount applied makes it nearly close enough to where I'd be comfortable, but not quite. In my head, if I recycle about 20% of 50 spools, I get back roughly 10 spools, which is 10 kg or $110 (I buy bulk, I just bought 12 kg on sale from microcenter for about $150). I plan on printing 3 major projects over the next 3 years (yes they will take that long) and plan on going through between 40-100 kg of PLA on these projects alone. I can then in the future maybe recycle another 50, but more importantly, I can recycle any donated PLA supports. My local MakerSpace I used to participate in would hoard supports and then every once in a while send it to a recycler. I could recycle about 10 kg of PLA off of supports every idk 3 months? Every year I'd be saving about $400 in PLA, and I could donate some of it back to the MakerSpace as a thank you, and then ultimately, sell the machine back to the community for ~$300 (I am an honest business man, it would be abused by me, the price will be low) and gotten decent value out of it and probably get close to $2,000 value out of it over 3 years, assuming it works well, and after accounting for the eventual electricity costs and maintenance parts, maybe break even on the $1,500 discounted price tag. It's one of those things where I don't legitimately believe this will ever be something to consider for a regular consumer, but for enthusiasts and print farms, this would be far more acceptable deal... Like having that 1 friend who is *Really* into 3D printing you could just give your supports to without expecting anything in return, or maybe an agreement is made where 50/50 pla recycled goes to him and you. At $1,500, it seems like more effort to recycle than just going to the store and buying more. In terms of "man hours" it would likely be more cost effective to do so, so it would be entirely a moral or ethical choice, rather than a cost savings choice. At $1,000 it would be appealing for enthusiasts and print farms, at $800 I think we're doing solid work.

[@michaelbaykara2322]

Thanks for keeping us aware Jesse.

[@Martial-Mat]

100% scam. They can make all the promises they like but without a way of holding them accountable, their promises are worthless. Any company that wants my money had better be willing to pick up a phone.

[@RayLenses]

I'm glad we having uncle Jessy to call them out

[@billbyrd9845]

In my view as a mere hobbyist printer, I see 3D print scrap as a big problem and getting bigger everyday. It just kills me to toss tubs full of it in the garbage. So the business opportunity is certainly there for some entrepreneur. It doesn't really seem like it should be that difficult. I can imagine depots in cities all over the US (and elsewhere) where you take your scrap and trade it in for recycled spools. I don't know, maybe 10kg of scrap for a 1kg of recycled filament. One thing's for sure: If there's enough money to be made, someone will do it. Otherwise, we'll just keep putting it in the landfills. I'm satisfied it's not going to show up in desktop form for $1500.

[@SwissplWatches]

Love the reviews and videos. I learn SOOOOO much for you! thank you

[@bdot02]

It is VERY common for websites to use whois privacy protection. This is because when you don't you open yourself up to a metric ton of letter mail from scammy companies stating that your website is about to expire and you need to renew it. Conveniently accepting card info. And calls. And emails. It's egregious. So I wouldn't say that using whois protection is a good indication of if a company is a scam.

[@Spirited282]

Thank you for posting this. Sure does sound like a scam and can totally foresee some people unfortunately get caught purchasing it.

[@WarrenPenner]

Thanks, Jesse! Just got an email saying they launched their "demo" video but it's not hosted anywhere accessible.. the whole things seems pretty sketchy.

[@butterham7]

its on youtube right now

[@gregzambo6693]

uh where is the hopper for input? unrealistic.

[@atillathehung2000]

I think the most obvious sign this is a scam is that they didn’t see the render of their product basically working backwards. I think the original idea of the design is that it’s extruded out the bottom, goes through the rings, and then fed through a puller that sends it to the spool. All of this needs to be set up manually so that could be why the bottom has the open cavity. The way the render just doesn’t look like they understand what’s happening just screams fake. Please nobody back this unless a reputable person gets their hands on one.

[@ricktedder4749]

I used to work with injection moulding machines. The only way I can think of to make this work is if you had a heated Archimedes screw with a hopper feeding in the pellets/chips of plastic. The screw would drive the melted plastic to an extruder and then a mechanism to cool and spool the extruded product. None of which would be cheap or I would imagine suitable for home use. But hey maybe someone will come up with a usable home version but I don't think this is going to be it

[@rickyh2896]

im so glad you did a video on this. I just saw an ad today and my "too good to be true" alarms were going off so I didn't pre-order. I really hope its real but....yeah

[@Master_Ed]

I'm not pre-ordering if that even becomes an option, a lot of modern things don't go into full release with pre orders, they're normally in alpha/beta stages of testing and normally the projects go nowhere or are released but as something far worse. Also looking at the design, it'll probably cost 50x more than it's value because of the modern design

[@docdigit]

My suggestion to the company would be to send a unit to Uncle Jessy for testing/review. Even if it is a prototype, it would prove they are working on something.

[@keivnjones4520]

How many rolls can you buy for the price.

[@johnh.miller1112]

Material separation and contamination will also be a huge issue!

[@odinata]

Uncle Jessy is responsible for more wasted filament than anyone alive.

[@Foxtrop13]

3:06 why microplastic look so tasty?

[@andyspoo2]

I still feel there must be a way of using a metal hopper with heaters attached and small holes in the bottom and some hydraulic pressure on the top to press melted filament through the holes, with a spinning blade that cuts the used filament in to pellets, so you can use them in a REAL filament making device without going through the tedious process of using a blender or what-ever to chop your failed prints in to bits.

[@chuckthetekkie]

Just because the website owner is private doesn't mean this isn't a potentially real product. I have a website and the only thing public is the state I live in. Everything else is set to private for security reasons. Still very skeptical about this product as even the expensive commercial products aren't that easy to use and you have to use a separate shredder.

[@korriehusky8404]

Wouldn't this item overheat? First it would need to shread the filament, then it would need to get really hot to melt the filaments at the same time spit it out on that unrealistic angel through that loop then pull it up and feed it out on to that spool and have it winded onto the spool. Sounds like a fire risk.

[@rackrobo]

Also could this just be viral marketing for the design studio? Seems competent and the product name itself is similar to that of the design company.