Frame Off Restoration Gone Bad - Pretty Red Paint Hides Trashed And Rotted Parts Throughout

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Uncle Tony's Garage

Uncle Tony's Garage

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@yodawunn6700
@yodawunn6700 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you named names. Too often the perp is never called out. It should be easier to get compensated for frauds like that. I'm a redneck through and through, but I cut no corners when working on other people's stuff, nor will I even if they ask.
@UncleTonysGarage
@UncleTonysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
We've done videos like this before, but left out names because there was no clear and direct path back to the party who actually did the work. In this case, the owner of the truck had a direct one on one transaction with the people she contracted to do the work, and that's why we "named names".
@yodawunn6700
@yodawunn6700 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleTonysGarage Absolutely agree. There has to be a direct line to the people that did the work. Again, goes back to why I wont cut corners even if they want me to. Clearly this lady didn't ask or pay for that but I have seen botched up crap that the customer actually asked for because they themselves are the deceiver. Shops just shouldn't do it, if the deceptive seller gets caught, they'll throw the shop under the bus in a second.
@ryurc3033
@ryurc3033 2 жыл бұрын
@@yodawunn6700 been thrown under the bus plenty. So I always give people the option to take their car anywhere else for a second opinion before I even start, and explain although there are cheaper methods, I refuse to use them. It's like buying the cheapest part you can find. It's the one that is guaranteed to fail.
@jackieallen3344
@jackieallen3344 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleTonysGarage , I went on their website. They advertise as their specialty is restorations and old trucks. I can see why she chose them to restore this truck their advertisement looks l legitimate. I wonder how many other customers receive the same treatment from Possum hollow garage ? We need more people exposing businesses like this. I suggest anybody who’s looking for people to restore your vehicles. You get more than one reference on their work or do it yourself.
@mikescott1307
@mikescott1307 2 жыл бұрын
It's getting harder every day to trust anyone who we hire for anything!
@imskeptic1
@imskeptic1 2 жыл бұрын
Possum Holler Garage should be real proud, having their skilled craftsmanship showcased on a popular and respected you tube channel, watched by multi thousands of automotive enthusiasts. This may help give their reputation and business a well deserved boost. Nice goin' guys.
@steveib724
@steveib724 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Sak-zo1ui
@Sak-zo1ui 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@mesasavage
@mesasavage 2 жыл бұрын
You always get away with bullshit... until you don't!
@hoscarnag
@hoscarnag 2 жыл бұрын
It will give them something "well deserved" for sure.
@pauljones6328
@pauljones6328 2 жыл бұрын
I'd let the painter paint my car though, gun work looks good only thing that does though. Good from a far, far from a good
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 2 жыл бұрын
Good man calling them out. People pay a fortune to restore classics and they should know who the bad builders are
@stevesadusky8634
@stevesadusky8634 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@RealmCenter40
@RealmCenter40 2 жыл бұрын
This is fraud. The shop that did this would get clobbered in court.
@IR-nq4qv
@IR-nq4qv 2 жыл бұрын
They all start out with promises and good intentions, in the end only a few can honestly deliver what the customer wants and pays for.
@capt.spaulding5858
@capt.spaulding5858 2 жыл бұрын
Crooks, hacks they need to be held accountable.
@paulalvaro6313
@paulalvaro6313 2 жыл бұрын
Should be an inspector to check the car before leaving any restoration shop
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 Жыл бұрын
So glad you guys called out these hacks! I’ve been restoring vehicles for over 30 years. Seen a lot of high end 6 figure cars built with this same crappy quality from some very well known shops
@franklinbumgartener1323
@franklinbumgartener1323 Жыл бұрын
As a fully certified redneck, I'd like to thank you both for this video. No rednecks were offended in the airing of it.
@SouthernGospelSinger777
@SouthernGospelSinger777 4 ай бұрын
Amen 🇺🇲 😄.
@thomasforthe9274
@thomasforthe9274 2 жыл бұрын
That is what is called a "brain off" restoration. There should be jail time for ripping this lady off.
@cambellschunky704
@cambellschunky704 2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree . The restorer knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he was putting the lipstick on this pig.
@jeremybennett5547
@jeremybennett5547 2 жыл бұрын
That’s funny haven’t heard brain off before😂
@bradc32
@bradc32 2 жыл бұрын
red paint jobs seem to be red flags in Tenn.
@RoofysGarage
@RoofysGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradc32 there's a reason they call it "resale red" 🤣
@dentoncustoms
@dentoncustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Ask them what they think of the vid. Thats what I did on their Facebook page.
@BasedBidoof
@BasedBidoof 2 жыл бұрын
It's a real shame these "restoration" shops get away with this stuff
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 2 жыл бұрын
When people come to a place like they advertise to be the expectation is what the market requires. This lady should at least retain an attorney and recoup some of her money and not just eat her fraudulent loss. This is not the type of work that brings people to their door. I would imagine there are other unsuspecting former clients who are taking a closer look at work done on their at this point "supposed" restoration. I believe a lot of people are going to be upset about the frauds this company appears to be. Had they done a proper job with the fuel tank the rest may have gone unnoticed.
@bizeerog2281
@bizeerog2281 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those trucks where the cab corners and body panels are all available (after market) cheap. This so called restoration shop completely ripped her off. Glad you two are making them accountable, the word will get around now.
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 2 жыл бұрын
Hell you can practically build a new truck from all the spare parts they sell now. It's painful to me seeing how janky the repairs are. Don't get me wrong I didn't do a great job replacing the floor in my project car but I replaced all the rotting sections with actual steel. Not fiberglass and chewing gum.
@ale8oneboy
@ale8oneboy 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is, even with the panels available. They chose to waste more time and labor doing it this way!
@petegregory517
@petegregory517 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta know where those panel’s etc come from. Bud of mine got fenders for his Nova, came from Mexico, not even close, no way to make em fit.
@joelmohr3232
@joelmohr3232 2 жыл бұрын
If you're supposed to be that good, you can make any of these metal parts, or Yes, buy them aftermarket, but YOU DO NOT FILL IT IN WITH BONDO. Their work would have to get better to be described as 'shoddy.'
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle 2 жыл бұрын
..exactly!...maybe they didn't have anyone who knows how to weld sheet metal?..well, I guess they still could have pop-riveted those patch panels in!.😯
@TheDatadrew
@TheDatadrew Жыл бұрын
Kiwi has a good point, this will sour this woman on classic cars. This is a shame, as the culture is full of good people, good times and great stories.
@garymitchell5899
@garymitchell5899 Жыл бұрын
Rather than making excuses for her the best solution would be for her to learn about what she's trying to do.
@elblaise5618
@elblaise5618 6 ай бұрын
It isn't going to stop with classic cars, she's going to take this experience into every encounter with a technician and probably most well meaning advisers.
@TheReapersSon
@TheReapersSon 6 ай бұрын
There's a lot of classic resellers fleecing the hopes and dreams out of their customers. These scam artists need to be brought to task. Such a hack job as shown in this video is, to me, criminal fraud.
@billcoupe4468
@billcoupe4468 Жыл бұрын
This kinda thing truly breaks my heart... this woman was pursuing her dream... that shop took her money and crushed her dreams... there is literally no excuse for this.
@obeseperson
@obeseperson 7 ай бұрын
Let’s get em
@Harold-si7eh
@Harold-si7eh 6 ай бұрын
If a Steakhouse is offering T-Bone Steak Dinners with ALL THE SIDES and FIXENS and Your Choices of Fresh Baked Desert for $5.00 you should STOP and Ask Your self if any Cattle in your Area has had ANTHRAX LATELY!! Most time You NEVER EVER Get what you PAID FOR,Check around for who the CROOKS ARE!!!! Quality NEVER EVER Comes CHEAP and FAIR!!!!!
@teelowteelow356
@teelowteelow356 5 ай бұрын
@@Harold-si7eh Why do you capitalize almost every single word ? Pathetic lmao!😂
@scrappy93
@scrappy93 4 ай бұрын
​@@termonostruman huh?
@billyduffany3387
@billyduffany3387 2 жыл бұрын
When you do a frame off restoration, sometimes you forget a few things. Uncle Tony kills me. LOL
@Jglivermr2
@Jglivermr2 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny because its true...
@raybrensike42
@raybrensike42 2 жыл бұрын
Like the box water drain into the gas tank.
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
It was funny the first couple times but then it was annoying.
@Jglivermr2
@Jglivermr2 2 жыл бұрын
@@fireballxl-5748 it was true the first couple of times and then it was funny.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 2 жыл бұрын
I have done frame off for myself and when it comes to structure no compromises. Safety first. And I took my 65 Galaxie 2dr ht with a strong FE and C6 and 4.33 geared locker. Loud obnoxious and able to tear up the road. But my son and I had the car apart and hung the body from a tree with cribbing under it while we completely worked over the frame and suspension and replaced all of the bad parts, reconditioning the mounts and when body joined the frame we checked everything and got the body straight on the frame. It is so aerodynamic that you can roll down all 4 windows and get up to 100 mph with the 4.33s and still carry on a normal conversation without yelling. If we can do that in our backyard with a chain hoist to the front mounts and an engine hoist in the trunk . How the hell does anyone turn out an abortion like that? Are all TN shops crooked like that? I had a set of heads I worked and ported to perfection and I sent them to a guy I thought I could trust and when I asked when my heads would be ready, he said what heads? I saw them later in a magazine write up with the stamped ID marks I put on everything, I mentioned that detail because the person in TN was subject of the article. The pictures all came down and came back up with the stampings covered with photoshop. I’m not mentioning names but be careful when dealing with valuable parts engines and cars. I love mechanical things and I worked hard until I went blind insult to injury the friends I had for 25 years and had helped all I could banned me for life from that forum. They were all in on the joke but me. That was the greatest loss of all. If someone had said, I need your heads really bad to compete in a competition, I would have loaned them to them. But it was a dirty matter where I lost all but one friend. I used my position as a production manager and designer who was very familiar with the engine family and I called Vic Edelbrock and talked him into copying an engine designs heads and intakes. He did and they were his best selling products they made. Later I looked over a set of blueprints for a larger displacement version since strikers because the rage and made improvements from my own research that would make them be on par with any modern engine. Sent them back and requested that my name not be a part of it. He did tell a few people. But the heads were great especially on the strokers and the intakes based on the best factory designs and a fantastic iron block that is capable of handling anything that can be thrown at it. I’m not looking for praise, but I really miss my friends or who I thought were friends. My wife and I are soulmates and we practice mindfulness meditation and doing good for others. I will never give anyone bad advice knowingly and I strive to live life as it should be. Just be honest with yourself and others. I am blind now and a fall broke my left shoulder shattered is a better word. 50 years of hard work and I still dream about it. I love hard work . Dishonesty and disrespect, arrogance are sins that we can all fall prey to and I fear the the things that unify us , that were our net as we walked the tightrope is becoming less trustworthy as used to be. To rob that woman was beyond words to me.
@outlawbillionairez9780
@outlawbillionairez9780 2 жыл бұрын
Props to the owner for letting us see this, tho it affects the value of the truck. She's an honest player. Wish everyone was like that. 👏
@chuckyz2
@chuckyz2 2 жыл бұрын
She needs to sue the shit out of them. You write up an estimate for repairs and that is what she should sue for. Also everyone needs to spread the word in your area what that company does. Any judge would give her the repair cost plus time and trouble. She should be able to get her full 70k back. Especially if a pro goes to court with pics and video showing the severe hazards they drop on the lady.
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda depends on the intelligence of the judge. Some judges are horrible and some are pretty good.
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
@Yippee Skippy No doubt. In fact some are thinking Thanksgiving by calculating backwards from Yom Kippur 2029 (the latest year for Jesus' second coming , which is not the rapture but a different event) according to the 80 year fig tree prophecy. But that is no excuse for poor workmanship and cheating a woman.
@mexicanspec
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
Cases in superior court take a long long time.
@ChrisM78
@ChrisM78 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the lawyers cost make suing almost impossible and these shops know this. The best way to is videos like this hopefully the word gets out and people stop using them. Social media can work both ways in can build you up or take you down
@ryurc3033
@ryurc3033 2 жыл бұрын
The whole key to making something like this work is hiring the attorney that has an office directly across from the courthouse. Find the guy that plays golf with the judge and explain the situation to him. Especially in small Midwest citys
@onebridge7231
@onebridge7231 Жыл бұрын
That’s the most polite roasting of the competition that I’ve seen in a long time.
@delmar1972
@delmar1972 Жыл бұрын
I love old cars and trucks but will enjoy them from a distance. This kind of stuff is the reason.
@lloydchristmas1086
@lloydchristmas1086 6 ай бұрын
Grow a pair.
@vintagemotelguest
@vintagemotelguest Ай бұрын
@@lloydchristmas1086 Some people cannot afford to be robbed, especially with thieves now controlling new housing, rents, etc.
@GhostDrummer
@GhostDrummer 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame. Such a beautiful piece of history that was given a second chance, only to be ruined by shady work. Glad you guys named the shop that ripped her off.
@timbutler7433
@timbutler7433 2 жыл бұрын
The guy who owns the shop stood there and had no problem taking her check! Sick!
@jeremybennett5547
@jeremybennett5547 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I’ve learned body work correctly and am restoring my classic myself, I’m not gonna let this crap happen to my dream resto. Takes a while but in all I think in the end having done it myself it will mean more to me in the end anyway
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 2 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right. There is something about the trials, tribulations, long hours of work, ect. that endures us to the final product. Especially after a few years go by.
@offhandacoustic
@offhandacoustic 2 жыл бұрын
There is no greater satisfaction then restoring your own vehicle and learning new skills. Even if I had the kind of money this lady spent, I wouldn't pay someone to restore my truck. I enjoy waiting for new parts and learning every nut, bolt and wire on my truck. I'm 2 years into a redneck restoration and every bit of it has been an awesome experience.
@drjohnsonhungwell5115
@drjohnsonhungwell5115 2 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right Bondo and fiberglass everywhere isn't the proper way to repair rust it actually makes it worse because water gets trapped and makes it worse ,cutting out the rusted metal and replacing it with new metal is the only proper way to repair especially if you're investing significant money into paint .
@wilsixone
@wilsixone 2 жыл бұрын
@@HuskyGamersUNITE personally I probably would have gone with something a bit newer in order to "learn" on.
@southernbreeze3278
@southernbreeze3278 Жыл бұрын
Possum Holler Garage in Columbia, TN apparently did the "restoration", in case anyone missed it
@Renoster77
@Renoster77 5 ай бұрын
Looks like they have a KZbin account,last post a year ago 😡
@That_one-guy192
@That_one-guy192 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even think that truck being a dream of hers before you said it. I was initially pissed off that she got screwed over, but now I’m heartbroken for her. It’s a damn shame.
@jmillshobbies6344
@jmillshobbies6344 Жыл бұрын
Hard to watch this one, zip screws, painted over rust, half assed gas tank, the bed floor, the window, the doors, 🤬
@brandonreed4700
@brandonreed4700 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi is a true craftsman. He holds himself to perfection, even with Tony teasing him at first. I've restored a couple myself. It's really hard work and a lot of it, but it's a labor of love. Whoever did this truck only cares about money and has severely overestimated their abilities...sad. Possum Holler has a 3 star review for a reason. Do your research folks...
@wymple09
@wymple09 Жыл бұрын
How did they get 3 stars?
@sometimesleela5947
@sometimesleela5947 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of resto shops count on the vehicles being pampered and kept out of rain/snow/salt so they can take weatherproofing shortcuts. I really appreciate how Kiwi always touches up welds & grinds with paint. And btw, no excuse for a shop that specializes in truck resto not to know that repro panels are available.
@nitrous36
@nitrous36 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They count on the vehicle being garaged or trailered and not driven or exposed to weather often. The kinds of things that would quickly expose bad work.
@nitrous36
@nitrous36 2 жыл бұрын
@HuskyGamersUNITE And sites like bring a trailer make it easier to sell crap like that. Because you can manipulate the pictures to hide shoddy work.
@thedude_-__-_7528
@thedude_-__-_7528 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitrous36 I would only buy an un-restored car on a site like that with photos of all damage and imperfections.
@melissagreer3468
@melissagreer3468 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this...we too had a dream smashed by the same people...our truck is "Oliver" and the outcome is no better!
@whatsgoingonhere8888
@whatsgoingonhere8888 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw your new google review. The word “are” needs to be changed to “aren’t”, to make it clear others received poor work too. Maybe your truck will be in a future video, UTG is looking for more examples.
@davidtatum8682
@davidtatum8682 Жыл бұрын
Props to him for calling out the shop that did the resto.
@anthonykendrick1418
@anthonykendrick1418 Жыл бұрын
First off, let me thank UTG for introducing me to your channel. 2nd off let me thank you for being an honest person and showing us how it should be done correctly. For the little amount of time I've been subscribed and watching your content, I've learned quite a bit already. And that says a lot from someone that has been in the same business for over 35 years. Keep up the great work. We're never too old to learn something new. 👍
@michaelmarquette3137
@michaelmarquette3137 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way you called the thief’s that did this restoration I hope this encourages more shops to put this type of shoddy work on blast
@r.joseph8911
@r.joseph8911 Жыл бұрын
“thieves”
@honeybadger6275
@honeybadger6275 5 ай бұрын
@@r.joseph8911 I mean this is standard procedure for pretty much every company in every business sector nowadays.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 2 жыл бұрын
There used to be a dealership & "restoration" shop near me, in Lakewood, I think they were called "Golden Classics" that was notorious for crap like this. Buy a basket-case for a couple hundred bucks, bang out the dents, fill the rust holes with Bondo, re-spray it so it looks presentable, and, sell it to some poor sucker as a "frame off restoration" for $20k.
@gmonynegro595
@gmonynegro595 2 жыл бұрын
Muncy Restoration in Muncy Pa. has the same business plan.
@windynabbie
@windynabbie 2 жыл бұрын
Lakewood New Jersey? I stopped by there a long time ago Very overpriced.
@angelo57a51
@angelo57a51 2 жыл бұрын
@Anon Nymous I remember that dealership in Lakewood. Lol I used to go there all the time when I was younger to browse around. Luckily, I never bought anything from them
@lamplighter5545
@lamplighter5545 2 жыл бұрын
This is even a little worse. This was already her truck and she paid them to restore it.
@1922BluePhoenix
@1922BluePhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that place a while back ..never did bussinesses with them thank God
@jamesmclachlan4938
@jamesmclachlan4938 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing things built like that makes me glad NZ has our system to catch/stop this kind of polished death trap being on the road
@johnraygun9868
@johnraygun9868 Жыл бұрын
I just finished up 21 years as a combat medic so my talent with this kind of work is tinker level but even I would never do this shit of a job lol I had a 1969 Mustang with the 351W from the age of 16 given to me by my Aunt who passed away on my first deployment. I sent my pay home to have it completely restored and when I got home I found my car had been sold and my signature forged. Now with a wife and kids I couldn’t afford another which wouldn’t have the same sentiment anyway so seeing the care you all takes gives me faith in people ❤
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 7 ай бұрын
Ex fiance did the same thing to both my trucks after she disappeared. Nothing happened to her Broke into my place when I was out having surgery...took the title had dup. keys made, gone. People are just plain evil.
@SurnaturalM
@SurnaturalM 6 ай бұрын
​@@gordocarboThat's so low, she's passing the earth crust at this point, just like my ex, who left me after 6 years because I was dying of a liver disease, as it was "too hard for her to endure" despite the fact that it was me who was in and out of the hospital and was dying.. some people are evil. After that, they are surprised that we have trust issues.. (I got a transplant at days of dying btw)
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 6 ай бұрын
@@SurnaturalM Sorry to hear that. Heard the same as you. Poor her, so hard on her she deserves a lifestyle shes accustomed to etc. She never wanted for a thing but its never enough. Turned out my being home from being ill made it tougher for her to cheat. They all do.. Got a good pet and done with the rest. lol Hang in there bud
@taco2k3
@taco2k3 4 ай бұрын
Similar story, I had a friend from high school with a ‘63 Nova, went into Navy. He had a “mechanic” friend of a friend doing engine repairs. Came home on leave and car was sold without his knowledge.
@johnraygun9868
@johnraygun9868 4 ай бұрын
@@taco2k3 be nice to have the opportunity to strangle the person lol, I keep telling myself what goes around comes around but sometimes not soon enough 😂
@charredskeleton
@charredskeleton Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine does this kind of work. He spent a year spare time doing this gorgeous 55 Chevy. The lady hadn’t been able to drive the car in a decade because multiple shops had been “restoring” it for here. Each time she’d get it back it would be a little more torn apart. Awesome customer, paid as she went… and has 3 more cars waiting for my friend.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 7 ай бұрын
Had the same thing happen. Referred bya friend whose same yr/make car was done COmbined 9 yrs over 20k and still didnt get finished. I only know of one shop I trust...shoulda coughed up th e15k he wanted. Woulda been perfect and only taken a few mos
@woofersd2383
@woofersd2383 2 жыл бұрын
Hope there’s an update on this truck and it’s owner. I believe she needs to have this fully documented and get her money back. If this lady reads this, please don’t give up, make yourself whole, then sell it if you choose. Just don’t give up.
@outspokengenius
@outspokengenius Жыл бұрын
The problem is if she sues it's small claims court it's not a criminal offense and even if the ownder wins the the business that did this just refuses to pay and there are no real consequences. It only effects their credit score. False advertising and fraud are legal thanks to Donald Trump and his swamp of a supreme court. All laws now protect dirty business men.
@njheflin1583
@njheflin1583 2 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right Tony, safety first if someone else is gonna be involved. You proved that with Lamchop, Al and the Jet boys. Everything you did with those cars, Plan Z, and even the Miata, it was always “build it right first, make it safe”
@sheldondyck8631
@sheldondyck8631 2 жыл бұрын
Shit like this is why people don’t trust mechanics or body shops anymore. That shop should be ashamed of robbing the owner of her hard earned money like that. Sad thing is they probably don’t care.
@jimamizzi1
@jimamizzi1 2 жыл бұрын
Very disappointing, we all work very hard to get the dream, then some hack destroys your dream, I hope after this video the company comes good and fixes this truck.
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 2 жыл бұрын
I went on a interview once for a place because I applied for anyone who was hiring during the recession. Well we are in another one.. But people are hiring this time for now.. Anyway. I had past automotive experience the guy just went on and on and on asking me if I ever ripped anyone off or did work and charge for it but never complete it etc.. I was like "No I did what the customer had on the street " then they went on and was like "What it you saw someone else doing it" I was all "I did so many cars a day so busy I didnt have time to even see that" They didn't like that answer and that prick probably got ripped off by a shop. I think I left it as like "Well if people don't like it and dont trust people they can always spend thousands of dollars on tools and equipment and do it themselves"
@shaggywagshaggywag
@shaggywagshaggywag 5 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct! Recently picked up my 55’ T-Bird, from getting new generator and regulator. Doesn’t charge the battery at all! They obviously did not test before it went out the door. And this is from a classic garage! Should’ve done the job myself, I know there are good mechanics out there, but simply don’t trust the industry. Back to doing 99% of my own work.
@guzzifabrication3448
@guzzifabrication3448 Жыл бұрын
Possum holler garage..... maybe the first red flag is the name...... that's why I video every step of the restoration at my shop.... so the customer knows exactly what's been done, what they are paying for and build a video portfolio for the vehicle in the event the vehicle is sold at a later time there's no question about what type of work has been accomplished....
@jtotheace1
@jtotheace1 Жыл бұрын
This was a helpful for me as a new classic car restorer. I am still learning how to make things look pretty but I always take the extra time to ensure structural integrity, remove rust, and keep things as close to OEM as possible.
@geyser3445
@geyser3445 2 жыл бұрын
Real nice endorsement for Possom Hollow.
@boscoalbertbaracus1362
@boscoalbertbaracus1362 8 ай бұрын
Possum Holler, Nashville TN area. Not a surprise at all considering the amount of money in the hands of people with not enough brains, probably a great business model.
@The_R-n-I_Guy
@The_R-n-I_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with Tony. On my car that nobody else drives or rides in, I'll rig up anything to keep it going. But if I'm working on anyone else's car. Everything has to be right. And if I notice something wrong while I'm doing an unrelated repair, I let the owner know. So even if they don't want me to fix it, they know about it.
@BareRoseGarage
@BareRoseGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge 2 жыл бұрын
As I always say "I don't trust anyone with a deathtrap except myself"
@armchairgeneralissimo
@armchairgeneralissimo 2 жыл бұрын
This right here, when I pay a "professional" to do a job I expect it to be done properly.
@raygordon3728
@raygordon3728 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed. I always look at it this way. Doing it right is the only way. If the client can't afford to have it done right, then we can't work together. And another thing. The client may take it somewhere else and other shops always love to bad mouth other shops, nature of the beast. So, I never give then that chance. Do it once, do it right. And remember, charge accordingly. Never work for free.
@stuartwall8212
@stuartwall8212 2 жыл бұрын
Not crying upset? Oh man, I would have went home and cried there. My car has POR 15 saturated fiberglass in the trunk floor, but I would never pass that off as a restoration move. You are absolutely right when you say her dream was crushed. Anyone profiting from dream crushing deserves to come to ruin.
@kellyhinkelman8591
@kellyhinkelman8591 Жыл бұрын
The beaters get more luv up here in my town. body monkey trying to cheat "0.0"mech skills .scary. no welder in that shop or field?cost of criminal work criminal price and now have to redo it. Cost of repairs in good shop maybe fab shop400$ now to replace 4000$+400$+3000 .in loss of use cab off bed off labour. check the shitty body prep box on the work order means grind it all re paint it all cause it would be crap sticking on crap peeling away in1yr. Too bad the lady has to sue.
@moosecat
@moosecat Жыл бұрын
Anyone profiting from giving somebody an unsafe vehicle to drive deserves to come to ruin. Doing a half-assed job on (ahem) attaching the cab to the frame is criminal.
@chriscasey3699
@chriscasey3699 Жыл бұрын
You might think a rogue employee at Possum Holler could have done this...but the shop management should have known. When integrity is lost, it is nearly impossible to regain.
@boscoalbertbaracus1362
@boscoalbertbaracus1362 8 ай бұрын
Its a big shiny shop ripping off people with more money than brains in Rutherford and Davidson County TN, no shortage of them there. Probably gonna be making tons of money for years to come.
@honeybadger6275
@honeybadger6275 5 ай бұрын
Guarantee this is how the owner wants them doing it.
@kurtisstutzman7056
@kurtisstutzman7056 Жыл бұрын
I've never bought an old car or truck without crawling under the things...! I had a guy get 'scared' when I started pulling out Jack stands and a floor jack... He asked "what are you doing...?" Then proceeded to say that I would not be allowed to jack it up on his property due to 'insurance' reasons... I suggested that we move it into the residential dead-end lane he resided on... But that too was a no-go...! He did not want me to see the undercarriage of his 72 Camaro... I didn't buy it because it looked too good on top and the interior was brand new... Nice shiney,freshly painted small block... I didn't even drive it, but it was pretty...! I hope who ever did buy it didn't get ripped off too badly...! Thanks, keep up your awesomeness and go enjoy some nature today...! Don't forget to compliment someone today...
@Carstuff111
@Carstuff111 2 жыл бұрын
How in the hell can someone build what looks like such a beautiful truck, and yet make it so damned dangerous with a fuel tank that would have leaked as soon as it was full, the bed would have fallen apart, just...wow. If you can't do the work with quality, do not touch it. I am not a Ford person, and this makes me want to cry because it is a gorgeous truck.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm defending them in any way... but I can explain their mentality. So many "frame off restorations" end up being "trailer queens" and "garage decoration". They figured this lady would drive it two or three times in nice weather, then park it in her garage for 20 years. They assumed their "handiwork" wouldn't see the light of day for decades to come. They're scam artists who have clearly been getting away with this crap for years precisely because people don't drive their cars, or maintain their cars, or even look under the hoods of their cars anymore.
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of places focus on making it shiny and pretty without really paying attention to it working or being done properly. I’ve even met a few people who just think that’s the way it is with old cars. They think they’re supposed to have problems and not work.
@Carstuff111
@Carstuff111 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the vehicle was only going to be driven on the weekend, maybe once a month, that truck was dangerous. The way I see it, if these fools that charge so much are going to frame off restore a vehicle, there are NO excuses for doing what was done to this truck. Her very first drive, if she had filled that fuel tank, it could have puked gasoline all over the road and likely on to her just filling it. The bed looked like it was ready to fall apart or just straight up come off the back, which is a danger to anyone following behind her. And the fact these shops do this, makes me think they should have to put their own lives on the line with the vehicles that they built as their new daily drivers. Let them hurt or kill themselves with their own half-assed work. I have no remorse for scammers, especially when the safety of people is on the line. I have a shitbox 30 year old Honda Civic that I saved from going to scrap 9 years ago, I prioritize making sure it is safe if not for myself, then for those around me on the road at the very least. I have less than $4,000.00 total invested, and I have made sure the car stops and turns correctly and that nothing on it will make it a danger to those around. This lady had tens of thousands, I am sure, poured into the restoration of this truck, and I wouldn't let my worst enemies drive that death trap as it is/was. Trailer queen, or daily driver, if it is to move under its own power for any amount of time on the road or a track, or just on and off a trailer, there is a minimum amount of safety that needs to be thought of. And this poor truck had none of that. It makes me sick. And I would LOVE to have a nice long chat with the dirt bag pieces of crap that built that truck. If it was too far gone to be fixed correctly, they should have said something. Or, been more upfront with the budget to fully make the truck right.
@taylorsopko5807
@taylorsopko5807 2 жыл бұрын
@@NBSV1 funny how everybody has that mentality nowadays the most reliable cars I had were from the 80s and older and when they did have a problem they gave you plenty of warning and you could usually fix it on the side of the road while all the newer cars ive had usually fail without warning and need expensive sensors or a whole computer that has to be programmed
@phoenixrising4573
@phoenixrising4573 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way Kiwi approaches it.... the body shops getting together and forming a certification association. The Govt will fuck it up like they have everything else, but self policing is a different story. The fact you actually feel bad having to give news like that to someone speak volumes about the kind of person you are Kiwi.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@johnsmith7676
@johnsmith7676 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@warrenlewis3977
@warrenlewis3977 2 жыл бұрын
The government won't fuck it up. These bootleg shops NEED regulations to stop or limit the fraud being perpetrated. Start with licenced welders not some guy off the street that tells you he can weld
@Bleriotman
@Bleriotman Жыл бұрын
The Feds would NOT screw it up!. Look at the FAA and aircraft maintenance. That works just fine! I've been an airplane mechanic for over 40 years, and stuff like this just DOESN'T happen. As a mechanic, you are DIRECTLY responsible for the work you do, and you put your name and mechanic number on all the work you do. If there is a problem, there is DEFINITE accountability right back to the person who did the work. These excuses about "Staffing problems" is just PURE B.S.! Any owner of an aircraft shop is EXPECTED to know the quality of work his guys are putting out, and has the responsibility to see that work is done properly. Bad aircraft mechanics are rooted out VERY QUIICKLY. As far as the FAA is concerned, the manager of a shop is JUST AS RESPONSIBLE AS THE MECHANIC, FOR POOR WORK. You HAVE TO know whether your guys are doing quality work or not, and hold them to a high standard.
@TLLConline
@TLLConline 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you named the shop it came out of. There'd be a lawsuit filed if I was the owner.
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for actually naming the culprit. Best thing ever on UTG was being introduced to Kiwi. Nothing better than a pair of true motörheads sharing the passion, with integrity and a touch of humor. 👍👍👍
@thetoymanator7723
@thetoymanator7723 Жыл бұрын
It's true when he said it was someone's dream, not just an old truck. We all want classics for a reason. Perhaps it was something from our childhood, or brings back memories of something a mother or dad or uncle or aunty drove around and we want to relive that nostalgia and sentimentality. Some of us wait a long time to get into a financial state where we could afford that "dream". It's not fair that people can take advantage of that to kill that dream.
@blau325
@blau325 2 жыл бұрын
So terrifying that this is what some shops consider done, yet completely unsafe.
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 Жыл бұрын
And useless. Insurance regulations my ass. I laugh at shops posting this shit on the dam door, if a shop won't let you see whats going on with your property you shouldn't be at that shop. I always let customers watch me work on there cars as long as they didnt talk to me too much. Whats funny is when you've got 1/2 the inside of a car taken apart and 50 wires to hook up you see jaws drop because your not reading directions. And they a union electrian asks how do you know what goes where? Because ive don't 500k of them.
@Mikefngarage
@Mikefngarage Жыл бұрын
all the fiberglass just floors me. I have no idea what she spent but I have never done this type of work ever.
@danobrien3109
@danobrien3109 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you gentlemen for sharing your knowledge of what we should be looking for in a proper restoration. The shop who completed this work deserves to be taken to court and ordered to repay this woman and have their license revoked. They certainly don’t put much value on human life if they attempt to pass off fiberglass as structural components of a vehicle. 👍🇨🇦
@billtribble7197
@billtribble7197 Жыл бұрын
KNOWLEDGE? these 2 morons are to shown to have no knowledge of vehicle restoration. owner got a fair paintjob & nothing else.
@handeroo2000
@handeroo2000 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, this truck is posted in their gallery on their website. Thanks for calling them out. Schmucks like them give us honest wrench twisters a bad name!
@derekhobbs1102
@derekhobbs1102 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find it, must've been removed.
@MoparRob440
@MoparRob440 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekhobbs1102 I couldn't find it either.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekhobbs1102 it's on their Vintage restorations page
@jjthefed
@jjthefed Жыл бұрын
I had some stabilization work done on my 1983 Caprice over a decade ago. The shops didn't want to do it but finally agreed but would be as is, no warranty. I have since completed my welding, sheetmetal, and auto body / paint training at the local community college. I went back and removed all the short stranded filler, cut out the bad metal, fabricated new parts, and welded them in. A lot of work cutting, fitting, welding, removing warpage. So the fill jobs that I had done were worth it for a short term fix. But if you want it done right you gotta cut and weld.
@davidbaumgardner8374
@davidbaumgardner8374 9 ай бұрын
I've got a rust free original paint 83 parrisenne it's a 4 door though I'm looking to sell
@billymanilli
@billymanilli Жыл бұрын
16:37 "the rears are ok... the front ones have been ...shall we say... repaired" That caught me off guard and made me choke on my water! 🤣
@ripvanrevs
@ripvanrevs 2 жыл бұрын
Easy fix for water in the gas tank. Just drill some drain holes in the bottom.
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@MoparRob440
@MoparRob440 2 жыл бұрын
Lol nice
@timbutler7433
@timbutler7433 2 жыл бұрын
Completely sickening what this “not a restoration” shop did to this women!
@BamaJoe2023
@BamaJoe2023 2 жыл бұрын
Tony: According to the FAQ on their website. It states you will have to sign a contract. I hope you can get a hold of this ladys contract and read it out in a follow-up video.
@markkreuser4394
@markkreuser4394 6 ай бұрын
WE LOVE UNCLE TONY (Mopar Man) for ALWAYS KEEPING IT HONEST !
@markfortin421
@markfortin421 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I did a series of articles over 3 years in a national magazine on restoration taking it from the day you brought it home to the paint booth at the end, trying to direct people on how to choose a proper shop, because not everyone can do everything themselves, and getting things done at other shops can be frustrating at best, and a nightmare at worst. This truck shows that, and I'll bet the "restoration" shop took advantage of the fact that she's a woman...and won't know the difference. That's truly a shame, and I'm glad y'all are calling out the culprits, even though in the end the damage is done and there's no reversing it. Thanks for posting this, maybe it'll make people think b4 they leap.
@burtbacarach5034
@burtbacarach5034 2 жыл бұрын
I hate lawyers,but it's time for this lady to lawyer up.Hope she has all her receipts.
@overdrivesgarage7030
@overdrivesgarage7030 2 жыл бұрын
One of the lessons to be learned here, do in person progress checks. If you show up every week you can see exactly what they're doing and it's harder to hide stuff like this. Even if you're not that mechanically savy, you'll see the fiberglass contrasting with bare metal before its covered in paint. You'd see the rotted bed rails before the wood floor is in place. Bring a more knowledgeable friend with you if needed. If you see something fishy, ask a friend, the internet, anyone but the shop. Then the shop can either fix it or you can take your project somewhere else before the bill gets any higher. Worst thing to do is drop off a project and wait for the "it's finished" phone call.
@YouveBeenMiddled
@YouveBeenMiddled 2 жыл бұрын
You can also see that 3 weeks of "labor" billed was in fact 3 weeks of beer drinking, or worse working on another client's project.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 2 жыл бұрын
You assume the average "more bucks than brains" customer would have a clue what they're looking at. Wander past any body shop you see bondo "skim coat" leveling. Every boat has "structural fiberglass" work. A good talker is going to convince your average pigeon "this is how its done". But, you also have to look at what the final purpose of the "restoration" is supposed to be. If this truck was supposed to be a "static indoor display" piece, it's pretty ok. If it's supposed to be "restored to factory fresh, roadworthy" condition, it's complete butchery. Betcha the butcher shop even uses puffery like "museum quality restoration" as lawsuit insulation.
@1DEADBEEF1
@1DEADBEEF1 2 жыл бұрын
Bro- people spend 70grand on a restoration - they aint gonna go and babysit the staff
@overdrivesgarage7030
@overdrivesgarage7030 2 жыл бұрын
I assume nothing, can’t save everyone from every situation
@petesmitt
@petesmitt 2 жыл бұрын
The trouble is that once the shop has your vehicle, they can hold you to ransom; if you don't accept the work and pay the price, they can hold your vehicle until you pay or dispose of it if you refuse to pay.
@jessejohnson159
@jessejohnson159 2 жыл бұрын
In 1969 I took a '56 Ford wagon that had been in the family since '57 to a body shop with the instructions to "Replace all the rust with metal, complete the body work and prime it". When I got the car back and started to take a really good look at it, I found masking tape over the rust holes and body filler over the tape. Sad part is, I had stopped at the shop a few times and, because I didn't look for the right things, didn't catch the shoddy work. So, I started learning the skills needed to do the work myself. Started with welding and panel fabrication. Now, 5050+ years later (OK, 50+. Thanks @Zach-sg5uu! Edited 05-27-2024), I do everything but engine machine work and automatic transmission overhauls on my own cars and trucks. Shops that do work like shown here really piss me off.
@Zach-sg5uu
@Zach-sg5uu 6 ай бұрын
5050 years later!😂
@jessejohnson159
@jessejohnson159 6 ай бұрын
@@Zach-sg5uu Yep, a typo! It feels that long for me! 🤩 Guess I should fix it, in another 5050 years!🤪
@Zach-sg5uu
@Zach-sg5uu 6 ай бұрын
That’s amazing! Some psychiatrists give people low IQ readings and their own daughters can’t put fuel in their own car! Most people can’t rebuild there engine. Even if they could they would probably be too lazy & a lot of shops are now too lazy! Even if you’re able and willing to pay the shop to do a engine rebuild. The shop will be too lazy and try to say it’s not worth the money. Holding on to most cars from 2012 or older is usually worth the money compared to any of the new ones!! Plus they are cheaper to maintain!
@TonyGingrich
@TonyGingrich Жыл бұрын
In my recent experience, this is actually getting off lucky. Ignoring costs, of course. My son and I recently duped ourselves into a rust-rotted project car. His first car, almost same model as my first, so I have myself to blame for things. Amazing how good a pig can look with a fresh coat of lipstick.
@d-arts7139
@d-arts7139 Жыл бұрын
thank you lady. a real eye opener
@TrentGustus
@TrentGustus 2 жыл бұрын
Some shops don't really know what their mechanics are doing either. I experienced this recently. The owner was a great guy, but staffing was an issue. I showed the owner some of the work, he did give me a discount. The problem with jobs like restoration is that the people working on it have to wear too many hats. You can't take a mechanic and get him to do body work. A lot of people underestimate the time and money it takes, to do it to even a minimum standard
@SuperDd40
@SuperDd40 2 жыл бұрын
I'm restoring a 1967 F250, when i bought it i saw just a couple rust bubbles, i thought it was gonna be an easy fix. At first i wanted to do a Vice Grip Garage floor pan repair but ended up having to do a frame off to change both front cab mount, part of the floor and part of the passenger door frame. When you see a rust bubble its just the tip of the iceberg.
@billallen4793
@billallen4793 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Emberglow 66 F250 custom cab camper special, wish I'd never sold it 24yrs ago after a break-up with a long term girlfriend, and couldn't drive everything back home to my state from Colorado..smh..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇲🤠
@theobsoleteman7935
@theobsoleteman7935 2 жыл бұрын
That happened to me on my 75 f250 4x4 over the summer. Started out just trying to replace a inner fender apron. Both floorpans and cab mounts and front clip later.😭🤣
@nobullshit9721
@nobullshit9721 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 so true got a 1964 lemans with my dad as a father son project. Started with some fiberglass in the quarter panel. 5 months later full floor pan, new quarter, lower bottom end of quarter panel fender lip both sides all 4 wheel wells replaced. The more you dig the more shit you have to address without turning it into a hack job.
@jayss10
@jayss10 2 жыл бұрын
This is the truth. I use the analogy old cars are like an onion. There limitless layers and each will make you cry.
@fknows1
@fknows1 2 жыл бұрын
loved this episode, and thanks for showing it, so people are unaware of what can be hidden under the paint and bodgey work going on out there, plus putting us onto kiwi customs. regards from down under
@raymondcollyear4773
@raymondcollyear4773 2 жыл бұрын
I'm like everyone else, glad the owner let you show how bad she got ripped off. Your talking about people's safety when you do shi* y work like that. If she was to sue the shop and she won they'd just file bankruptcy and she'd never see a dime. And that's to bad. I'm retired and wanted an old to redo as a tribute to my dad and grandpa and if I'd played someone to frame off restore and it turned out like that I'd be in jail. Kiwi looked like he wanted to hit you in the head with a club when you kept saying you could forget this and forget that, the looks he was given you made me laugh. Thank you for the video
@risinbison1106
@risinbison1106 8 ай бұрын
“Every time it rained the tank read full”…..that cracked me up.
@fjb3544
@fjb3544 Жыл бұрын
I love how you play devils advocate with Kiwi. 😂
@JackF99
@JackF99 2 жыл бұрын
It's like they started out to do it right, got into more body/frame repair than they bargained for, and did what they could to stay on budget, in the end cutting massive corners
@kinte1870
@kinte1870 Жыл бұрын
There is no budget for a full of frame restriction. You have no idea what's involved until you do it. That's why you charge by the hour for every hour . Be it 1500 hours or 2500 hours. I've spent almost 100 hours one 1 fender.
@SpeedyG289
@SpeedyG289 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the restorers must have banked on the truck going into a static display. Buyer beware I guess. Love the old school hood rodder banter. UTG & Kiwi are my favorite channels.
@pauljohnson7may
@pauljohnson7may 2 жыл бұрын
It is going to be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially the legal side of it. That 'workmanship' is enough to destroy a business supposedly doing high end restorations so I expect them to reply to this pretty damn quick.
@bearchow1929
@bearchow1929 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Almost constant sarcasm. I think it's great.
@craigexaustralia7147
@craigexaustralia7147 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, been watching possom holler videos, there's lots but theres none I can find more recent than this.
@Electrolab1114
@Electrolab1114 2 жыл бұрын
When he is talking about the cost to bring it up to par, and make it safe, my best guess would be that it would actually cost more than the original restoration. You literally would have to go through an undo everything that's been done to it before you can repair it properly. I could see a major lawsuit coming out of this if somebody was driving it and was seriously injured because in an accident, maybe even a minor accident, it would fail in places that it shouldn't. I would say that the shop that did the work should have to pay 100% of another restoration. But I don't know whether that would wake them up or just piss them off. A true crime.
@SOLDOZER
@SOLDOZER Жыл бұрын
NO. None of hat was issue besides the cab mounts.
@lawrencegolba2244
@lawrencegolba2244 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony, what greater way to make a point than by show and tell. As one who had a 57 F100 with patina finish and a million dings for 20 years, I chose the less pretty more functional, practical, safer route and repaired or replaced the majors like floor, cab mounts, rocker panels, springs and mounts, tie rods, etc. (even installed seat belts!) all with second qualified opinions. As a result, this truck is still on the road with a mechanic owner since 2003.
@mudduck754
@mudduck754 2 жыл бұрын
You mean your doors aren't supposed to fill with water? Damn and for all these years I thought that was a Chevy square body option along with the Hood bend option and fender rust option. Nice looking Ford though, Despite it's problems. Kiwi always has something that makes you scratch your head and wonder WTF were they thinking? And I'm going to add this. This is why I do all my own work. Engines, transmissions, rear ends, body work, glass, front end alignments. The man that taught me body work, was a Corvette specialist according to his sign. I learned to do fiberglass, how to fabricate steel for replacement parts, he used to buy cars that were rollovers and and fabricate window pillars, panels, that's where I also learned how to install glass,how to use lead, Bondo was a bad word. I hate shabby body work.
@hughneutron5303
@hughneutron5303 2 жыл бұрын
right. my old man was sold a silverado and told "it has a built in water dispenser as standard equipment"
@mudduck754
@mudduck754 2 жыл бұрын
@@hughneutron5303 I always know when it rained overnight, by how much water leaks out my driver's door when I open it.
@1973retrorabbit
@1973retrorabbit 2 жыл бұрын
It's a kind of sound reduction filler, gives the doors a reassuring "thunk" as opposed a rattly clatter, when you close them and also provides some side impact protection and radiation shielding too.
@hughneutron5303
@hughneutron5303 2 жыл бұрын
@@mudduck754 put a tap on it. boom, added feature. extra $100,000 on facebook marketplace!
@harryjohnson8605
@harryjohnson8605 Жыл бұрын
A classic car can be a blessing and a curse
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 Жыл бұрын
A classic boat is all curse.
@69CutlassKen
@69CutlassKen 2 жыл бұрын
Shame shame on the people who restored this classic! Thanks for bringing this to light. This is why it's difficult to find good restoration shops or trust them.
@greglarson1982
@greglarson1982 2 жыл бұрын
The best part; if you go to their website, it shows a before and after picture of this truck (the stickers give it away ) the before picture isn't that bad. Wonder how long that will be there after this expose?
@kingboo5191
@kingboo5191 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I wonder if they took it down because I didn't see it when I looked.
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 2 жыл бұрын
I got screwed with minor and major errors on bodywork and repairs over the years. Real hack stuff and then years later you have to redo the mess for 5x the $ and time. When I brought it up to these "shops" they pretty much just blew you off and were like "Oh so you wanted it perfect" When i had all like screw holes screws drilled into things bondo slapped on peeling off etc
@jewllake
@jewllake 2 жыл бұрын
yep same thing happens to me. "You keep your truck clean and want it right." "95% of the general public wouldn't notice."
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 2 жыл бұрын
@@jewllake My thing is trashed I have 16 holes to weld up. I need to get gas soon. Ya the idiot drilled 16 holes Lets just say they are still in biz Maybe they need some drilled holes. And it needs a whole repaint again over a repaint. But they did nothing wrong! If you want to run cars/ trucks and want to keep them better invest in everything you need to DIY. Cant trust anyone. I think some of these hack shops should invest in eye glasses for their employees and better lightning. If I see some dungeon place Bail on it. You know its going to be hack. Or if its an person wearing old beat up eye glasses. Cant see
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 2 жыл бұрын
I once had a body shop explain to me that the swirls they put in the new black paint they sprayed were only noticeable because the car was black. The car was also black when they quoted the job... About a year later, the paint started lifting.
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrokenLife One place that does restorations said use white nail polish to fill in the spots where they forgot to paint. Claimed it was fine. Its all peeling. Place was called "Jacks" I call it Jack off's Still in business. They attack you when I left a bad review with pics and claim im fake
@mexicanspec
@mexicanspec 2 жыл бұрын
@@GhettoWagon You should fight in court, not in reviews.
@darrenbyrne4622
@darrenbyrne4622 Жыл бұрын
A big hi from Auckland New Zealand have fun up in the good ol USA
@johnnelson8956
@johnnelson8956 6 ай бұрын
Im retired now but I have been in paint and body for over 40 years. I've restored more old cars and trucks than I can remember. Attention to details is the key difference between a good job and one that people will brag about. One early lesson that I learned is to never ask the customer if they want certain unseen items repaired. They're always concerned about keeping the costs down. But your reputation is at stake. So you to have treat the job as if you are the owner. Within reason that is.
@frostbite1991
@frostbite1991 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I glassed the floorpans in my 76 F250, but that was just so I didn't get cold feet driving around that winter. Never knew it could be considered a professional repair method haha.
@YouveBeenMiddled
@YouveBeenMiddled 2 жыл бұрын
It's completely fine if done well, and *that is the client's expectation.* Entirely different when something else is being paid for.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
You get it👍👍
@goaway3717
@goaway3717 2 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is why I'll likely never get into classic cars at all unless I decide to tackle it all myself which at this stage in my life I'm not likely to do. I'm glad you mention the name of the shop that did this to the lady's dream. If they've got one of these out there who knows how many other people they've ripped off? No wonder they don't have a lot of subscribers on YT and their videos are so short. They certainly can't afford to show you what they really do to scam people.
@BareRoseGarage
@BareRoseGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lose faith in it man. There are good shops out there if you are looking for the "Shiny Turn Keys" Best way to find them, is to go to the local Cruise Nights and Car Shows..... talk to the people there. I'd say 90% of the guys there, had the work done for them and they will tell you the Bad long before they tell you the Good. Don't go right to the "Shop Cars", the ones that the shops are using for advertisement, go to everyone else and make friends. This business is built on Reputation 1st, and you find out quick who not to trust.
@nobullshit9721
@nobullshit9721 2 жыл бұрын
@@BareRoseGaragegood information, so true had to get some seats redone 9 months went by nothing done. every other week being told there going to be done, nothing one day got pissed grabbed them back. Got the stuff to do it myself but didn’t have a lot of time to do it ended up talking to some people at car shows an they recommended me to a shop that got them done in less then a few weeks same price. Why deal with the bullshit when there’s a whole community that’s already went through the hoops.
@drjohnsonhungwell5115
@drjohnsonhungwell5115 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually cheaper to buy one already fixed up or a good solid candidate for restoration but I'd give it a thorough top to bottom inspection before buying one to look for Bondo , fiberglass and rust .
@RiverRat-2112
@RiverRat-2112 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at Squarebody Chevy for sale not long ago that actually was repaired with road signs. Not a frame off by any stretch but it did look decent from a distance until you got under it. I hadn't seen road sign repairs for quite a while. lol
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen happy meals used to hold the bondo in place? Unfortunately I have, and they didn't even leave me the toy 😑
@soisaidtogod4248
@soisaidtogod4248 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good from far, but is far from good.
@RiverRat-2112
@RiverRat-2112 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksu6947 No toy? Evil bastards! LOL
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksu6947 lol😂. That's rough man
@stircrazyone7929
@stircrazyone7929 2 жыл бұрын
Have seen old license plates used also.
@BReal-10EC
@BReal-10EC 2 жыл бұрын
I remember an old guy back in the 90s telling me to always move the steering wheel of an old truck to make sure the cab didn't move back and forth with it. If it did, then the cab mounts were rusted out and the steering column was supporting the cab.
@Tregrense
@Tregrense 7 ай бұрын
This is how it should work! Transparency, for lack of a better word. Caveat emptor. Consumers of anything require some teeth and some backup. Feedback, it's better engineering. Ten out of ten for the understated humour. Respect.
@ScottGovey
@ScottGovey 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, the real sad part about this is, it's not just this scenario that this happens, its everywhere, I deal with hacked up repairs on all kinds of stuff at work on machines, wiring, plumbing you name it. Many people in this world have zero morals and are out to make a quick buck and don't give 2 shits about the buyer/customer. Sad so sad.
@TheNachris720
@TheNachris720 2 жыл бұрын
excellent content to put out to the world, buyer beward. Bring a close person you trust who has knowledge when your looking for an automotive vehicle of any kind
@captainjohnh9405
@captainjohnh9405 2 жыл бұрын
The truly sad part of this is honest guys, like Kiwi, will lose customers to fly by night operations. And we all will all lose that nice lady, and many others, who could be part of the community.
@dave3657
@dave3657 2 жыл бұрын
Good they called them out! In Kansas some guy had a truck restored, then had lots of custom murals done on the body. The truck looked awesome for about a year. Then the rust started bubbling through. Instead of replacing the metal the body shop did a sloppy bondo job. It was a shame and a waste of time and money in the long run. Don’t know if he ever sued or not.
@notmyname3883
@notmyname3883 Жыл бұрын
I love the format of these........the one guy playing devil's advocate, the other guy being the straight man. This is straight out of Vaudeville.
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 2 жыл бұрын
This is almost the exact situation the steered me into doing pretty much all of my own work. Our truck wasn't quite that hacked together, but when the paint starts blowing off of it 9 months out of the shop, it sorta doesn't matter that it was once nice. Rust started coming through within 2 years. I'll blow it apart and do it the way it should have been done myself. I can't possibly do a worse job.
@chrislogan7804
@chrislogan7804 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see a fellow kiwi showing them up over in the states 👍
@rescuedandrestoredgarage
@rescuedandrestoredgarage 2 жыл бұрын
This is so sad, what these people do to the car community. But this is a good start to hold these clowns to be accountable. Great video guys so happy to see kiwi I have subscribed to his channel love that guy, and his love for Mary Poppins is second to none.
@dwayneburnham866
@dwayneburnham866 2 жыл бұрын
The company that destroyed that truck and ripped off that woman should be ashamed of themselves
@patg6557
@patg6557 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, so sad this stuff happens all the time. Seen much of stuff like this at several "classic" car dealers in my area. Really got to go over every inch these old vehicles. Plenty of them on eBay with everything underneath the car rattle canned painted including the exhaust, suspension, etc....
@ClintsStreetMachines
@ClintsStreetMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Exposing these shops on the internet is the best way to deal with this stuff. That shop will feel it in their wallets after this. Mistakes happen, budgets require short cuts sometimes, but this truck is not OK. This is a lack of skill at best and thievery at worst. I saw this kind of thing in the speed shop all the time and it made me sick to see people screwed over and leave the hobby. We need to help people build their cars so that they keep building more and grow our hobby/interest/community.
@moyadapne968
@moyadapne968 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Kiwi enjoys repairing cars in US without having to go through the New Zealand lo-volume cert nightmare.
@robertbeaty4909
@robertbeaty4909 2 жыл бұрын
I restore antique furniture for a living and have been doing it for nearly 40 years, the same thing happens in this industry. I've been saying for years there should be some kind of certification to keep the riff raff out but I don't think that will ever happen. I feel for that lady. It's sad to think someone would knowingly do that to a person.
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 2 жыл бұрын
Start a certification organization instead of complaining about it.
@elliscaparros8826
@elliscaparros8826 Жыл бұрын
You can feel the sense of humour evaporating the further he leads you into it..
@chrisives4030
@chrisives4030 8 ай бұрын
This video made me re-evaluate my perception of my work. I bought a 57 F100 in pieces and did a complete frame off restoration with upgrades. My truck was a hundred time better then this and I beat myself up because I was not satisfied with my work. I ended up selling if for $16K. I guess I still live in the 70's in my mind.
@todddenio3200
@todddenio3200 2 жыл бұрын
I just went to look at their webpage and the first comment on the dite was a guy calling them out for shoddy work. That shop needs to be sued out of business.
@MoparRob440
@MoparRob440 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that. There is a KZbin video called "Tennessee Crossroads" with the guy that used to do Trucks and Horsepower TV showcasing them.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
Where on his webpage did you see that? Could you post a link please?
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