Beefing Up Unibody Cars With Home Made Torque Boxes

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@bannockchief
@bannockchief 2 жыл бұрын
Next season Tony will be drilling lightening holes in Kiwi's torque boxes. Best of both Worlds.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@bicylindrico
@bicylindrico 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate guys doing this kind of work because it's hard to make money doing it for the time spent. I waste time on my own hotrods and it's hard enough to do. Great shop!
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 жыл бұрын
I don't look at it as wasting time, I look at it as enjoying my life!!! If I ever feel like I'm wasting my time, I'll move on to other things I enjoy doing, because life is way to short to feel like I'm wasting it!!!!
@craigjones2878
@craigjones2878 2 жыл бұрын
Australian Falcons had to have torque boxes added in the early’60’s as the original design wasn’t up to our appalling roads. They also had to use compact Fairlane ball joint’s due to constant failure of the falcon front suspension. Those early Falcons without torque boxes nearly sent Ford Australia broke.
@XLesky
@XLesky 2 жыл бұрын
The non-stop demonstration run they did after the changes for the media is a tale itself! From memory they ended up rolling most of the Falcons at least once (driving non-stop for 24hrs+ can do that!) But they kept going!
@ricknel76nelson54
@ricknel76nelson54 2 жыл бұрын
@@XLesky Yes. 1965 XP Falcon 70 000 mile reliability run. 5 cars averaging 70+mph over 9 days.
@kinsmart7294
@kinsmart7294 2 жыл бұрын
Ford really has an knack for shooting themselves in the foot. They were had good optics in my country with the ford escort, KA and fiesta, then they started putting some TERRIBLE automatic transmissions that destroyed themselves and refused to just change it back, killing their popularity and cementing an the public view of fords as unreliable, crappy cars. So much so they abandoned my country due to low sales. And now with every manufacturer building basically the same cars you are better of with an Honda or Toyota.
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 2 жыл бұрын
For their sheer purity and simplicity I love the early Falcon Sprints! a good 260 or 289 in a 62 - 64 falcon backed with a 4 speed is like heaven on a stick for me. I'm a GM guy too and that makes the Jealous!
@drewbiedoobie1416
@drewbiedoobie1416 2 жыл бұрын
right there with ya
@logan_e
@logan_e 2 жыл бұрын
At 19 I had a 64 Falcon, I loved that car even with the 170, always wanted a 289 or 302, then I got a wild hair and bought a 390 & T10 Top Loader from my friend. Probably a good thing I never actually put any of them in it, I would've killed myself! Hahaha
@MrSpartanPaul
@MrSpartanPaul 2 жыл бұрын
When I was 16 a kid in my school had a 64 Falcon with a 302. One day he was missing. A few days later, while we were at work standing next to the dumpster, he told me he was rolling through a stop sign and cop came after him. So he decided to run, it was 1980 and the cop cars were slow. He out ran him and the next 3 city cops as well. Got on the highway and then had the NY State Police after him too. He ended up making it from Newburgh on route 9W to Highland Falls without any cops ever getting close. They finally had to barricade the highway with cop cars to stop him. Best thing was that he was still allowed to drive to work and school afterwards because he told the judge that he never noticed the police, they must’ve been too far behind him!!! Hahaha
@tinkhamm7251
@tinkhamm7251 2 жыл бұрын
So loved all my falcons
@emersontayten
@emersontayten 2 жыл бұрын
289 with a holley double pumper and a 4 speed toploader is the best combo ever
@tobygathergood4990
@tobygathergood4990 2 жыл бұрын
Many, (some say too many) years ago a buddy and I built a '69 Mustang fastback with an 800 hp 460 for power. First time out we twisted the frame. Back in the shop after straightening out the frame, we ripped out the stock torque boxes and fabbed up heavier and bigger ones, plus fabbed up some beefy sub frame connectors. Plus a full cage. No issues after that.
@oldtimerf7602
@oldtimerf7602 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy every vid Kiwi puts out. Dude is cool and smart. And his paint man does incredible work too!
@modelnutty6503
@modelnutty6503 2 жыл бұрын
torque boxes, hat sections, good stuff!
@SupraBdub
@SupraBdub 2 жыл бұрын
The leaf springs connected to the frame rail, frame rails connected to the, torque box, torque box connected to the rocker, and that's what it's all about.
@ThePaulv12
@ThePaulv12 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia, all Mopar A bodies got OEM front and rear torque boxes from 1971 until end of production.
@wagonman1967
@wagonman1967 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode.73 Duster Big Block here. This is an Ex drag car and has the welded sub frame connects all ready in. Not going to cut them out but will add the Boxes F& R. Nice Job.
@peterkovacs8654
@peterkovacs8654 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm, Kiwi, those sweet custom torque boxes need to be reproduced, those puppies will sell like hot cakes, no joke! And nicely done, as always. Nice to see a craftsman care about his craft. 👍
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador 2 жыл бұрын
A body torque boxes all ready exist in the market. Not sure how well his would sell vs those.
@randelclawson7695
@randelclawson7695 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheInsaneShecklador Pretty sure he's talking about the custom boxes on the Mustang.
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador 2 жыл бұрын
@@randelclawson7695 Oh, OK. Does no one sell them for Mustangs? As popular as Mustangs are you'd think they'd be importing them in bulk from China.
@randelclawson7695
@randelclawson7695 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheInsaneShecklador Someone in China may indeed make them but you can be sure they will be inferior to these. There are still people who are willing to pay more for higher quality American made products.
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador 2 жыл бұрын
@@randelclawson7695 Agree, but that market is likely a lot smaller than you think. Most people are most worried about price.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 2 жыл бұрын
I added 110lbs of 3/8” thick ladder frame connecting all suspension and motor mount locations, and the front bumper Best mod I ever did
@billfioretti3013
@billfioretti3013 2 жыл бұрын
Great work again, Kiwi! Ford torque boxes were fully boxed. Chrysler rear boxes even on Hemis were only partially boxed. We had a complete rust-free '70 Hemi-Cuda on 3 jack-stands and the stress changed the door gaps substantially. A 1969 Boss 429 was in our shop at the same time and with 3 stands placed at the same points the door gaps remained unchanged. (Yes, it too had a driveline.) B.T.W. Early Mustangs all had rear torque boxes. Front boxes were an evolution. All Mustang convertibles had them. They weren't included on every body style until 1968. Keep up the great work!
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I've been itching for another one of these videos with Kiwi. Can't get enough of you guys
@lamplighter5545
@lamplighter5545 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi's torque boxes are beautiful! They look like they belong there!
@JrsGaragePa
@JrsGaragePa 2 жыл бұрын
An older guy told me once, chrysler engineers had torque boxes and frame connectors in the plans until the accountants got involved. If you save a dollar on every car, over a million cars, that's a million dollars saved.
@excavatoree
@excavatoree 2 жыл бұрын
99.9 percent of the things people blame engineers for were fucked up by accountants.
@jasonsellers9595
@jasonsellers9595 2 жыл бұрын
How much would they have saved by firing the accountant 🤔
@excavatoree
@excavatoree 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrynorsworthy8582 I've made that exact argument to management many times. Once, they took off a feature to save two bucks. I told them "The customer would GLADLY pay five dollars for it! You'd make money!" "Nope. We have to cut costs." was the answer.
@imarobot3757
@imarobot3757 2 жыл бұрын
never mind a doloar if they cold save 2 cents they did
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 2 жыл бұрын
Probably related to stiff aircraft designs
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony's Garage and Kiwi's Classics & Customs...perfect content! Beautiful work! Thank you guys!
@speedy_pit_stop
@speedy_pit_stop 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. 10 years ago I got a deal on nice sub-frame connectors for my 71 Mustang. But I didn't put them in because I never was convinced it's a good idea. So they're still sitting in the shop somewhere. Great video UTG.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the car. Some, like my Trans Am, will crack in places without a set and don't with.
@speedy_pit_stop
@speedy_pit_stop 2 жыл бұрын
@@lb9gta307 I'm not sure but it seems to be a more common need for GM cars from what I read. I love Trans Ams. Had one years ago, was really fun to drive.
@CAROLDDISCOVER-2025
@CAROLDDISCOVER-2025 2 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm for the car hobby is tremendous! Then you bring loan a channel like this kiwi and I've been watching his episodes. He's the Rembrandt of auto restoration. A customer of mine introduce me to the mustang pony cars. This is back in the day when he had mustang corral. I saw his work after completion never really looked underneath. Now multiple years later siblings when I see this man doing with mustangs and other cars is awesome and so much craftsmanship into each aspect of each project shown. Overall quality brings out quality. Kiwi is more reserved on his videos but your quality of workmanship, well it's no surprise that you know other people of high standards of quality workmanship. Now 30 years ago I'd be putting this to more use. But I share with my son and it teaches so many things. To sum it up quality counts! Thanks for introducing kiwi. I can see why up at d&d garage in Canada yes so much respect for you and your abilities. He has skills desires to be better and fortitude drive forward. Initially somebody who was hacking away at tri-fives losing the extra doors got my attention like It did so many others. He kept mentioning you more and more that I thought what the heck I'll take a look. Glad I did. The three of you have so much heart for the car hobbyist as well as a hobby itself. You're not afraid to give away secrets and it's probably safe to figure over 85% or better or just watching to learn and enjoy. But some part of the remaining 15% may actually apply the knowledge. Days gone by professionals would hide the trade secrets and their own personal creation of how to do something because they're full of competition at least in part. Now with all this communication including KZbin everybody can learn from everybody and the whole hobby improves and benefits. As I say all I do with this information disseminated to my son. I believe that's quite a big thing because regardless of how old I may or may not be he'll graduate in high school and continue to take a love of the car hobby into the future . Isn't this at least part of what you three men are wanting to do? That is to bestow on as many in the future generations to love of the car hobby so it continues and your knowledge is not lost . It becomes part of it legacies
@XLesky
@XLesky 2 жыл бұрын
All Aussie Valiants had torque boxes front and rear - even on humdrum 130hp, 6 cylinder sedans. We also beefed up other components. Ford did similar, as the first Falcons sold here suffered badly from chassis cracking and damage on our rural roads.
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 2 жыл бұрын
Mopar Darwin back in day we saw underneath rolling around in the dirt & cat turds (cats RIP)
@303Mopar
@303Mopar 2 жыл бұрын
I always add 2" sq tubing for subframe connectors instead of tq boxes. You get much more frame support and ride control, and the doors and window fit better too.
@MrRebustr
@MrRebustr 2 жыл бұрын
I added a flex plate i got from a friend who raced in the 80s and it fits my 84 trans am like a glove....made of kevlar or carbon fiber and its like a flat cover to the bottom side and he made me some stability bars n stiff components for rear
@beekeeper7535
@beekeeper7535 2 жыл бұрын
He said it right there's thousands of spot welds holding these cars together. I replaced the upper and lower cowl panel on my 66 mustang coupe about 150 spot welds on the upper cowl and the same on the lower. I guess it depends on the attitude of the workers back then I've seen some 66 mustang's with spot welds damn near 3 inches apart then others with a weld every inch or 2.
@shedred1967
@shedred1967 2 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely doing this to my 67 mustang fastback gt. Putting a supercharged 347 in this fall so extra is always good.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
Good talking with you
@shedred1967
@shedred1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 yes sir! Thank you for your time. Very excited, as is my wife. I've had the 67 mustang since my high school senior birthday, 1990.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's awesome
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding being unable to run the frame rails straight back, I've actually seen that done to stiffen up a rusty beater Ford Falcon (the bigger mid-late 60s model), it worked better than you'd think. The 2x4 tube went through the driver's foot well in a good spot between your feet that wasn't in the way once you were seated, probably could have even made a clutch pedal work in there.
@petergoodwin2465
@petergoodwin2465 2 жыл бұрын
That's nice work kiwi does , very well explained Tony. They are built exactly the same as the Aussie mopars. When I changed the rocker panel on my 77 CL regal se the factory stitch welded it with continuous spot welds . Every other Mopar I've done the spot welds are spaced out around 20mm apart. Had to cut the rocker off then grind the welds flat . The old mopars are always different.
@pauljones2031
@pauljones2031 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno about US cartool connecters not being very strong. Go ahead, jack one corner of a car equipped with those connecters.You'll see. All doors will open and close just fine.You have to remember the US ct connecters are fully welded to the floor pan, basically the floor pan and connecters work together as a frame rail. Super strong.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
I probably didn't explain what I meant very well. I meant that at the rear they're only about 1 1/2 " deep and this is the weakest point. In saying that they DO make a huge improvement. I just think could be a little stronger if the came up into the rear footwell. Of course not everyone wants that. My concept is a bit more hardcore.
@davidmatousek4483
@davidmatousek4483 2 жыл бұрын
True!!!!! I like to watch real reality not scripted,cheers!
@terrencebuller7676
@terrencebuller7676 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony, I have a 1962 Ford unibody, was wondering how to rebuild it properly. Very helpful info. Thanks again and have a great evening. 👍
@DSchea
@DSchea 2 жыл бұрын
This was a badass video packed with knowledge. Thanks fellas!
@throttledavidson1241
@throttledavidson1241 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like bottlerocket will be getting a torq job! Nice job Kiwi.
@JustinPaul1st
@JustinPaul1st 2 жыл бұрын
Yep see it coming 👍
@davidshellock1588
@davidshellock1588 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Tony & Kiwi - very informative & entertaining.
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
That is some impressive paint work. Beautiful.
@robbieautrey3158
@robbieautrey3158 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Uncle Tony covering Kiwi's awesome work. He is a master at those Torque Boxes..
@scottmoot2969
@scottmoot2969 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you DO still have a channel. I'm sorry I've been watching Kiwi... No Really, I love ya both, G'day!
@tedesco455
@tedesco455 2 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite kind of videos. You should be chassis stiffening video for every different designed chassis you can get your hands on.
@northernwolfhound7096
@northernwolfhound7096 2 жыл бұрын
Your not kidding Tony ,Kiwi is a highly skilled master tradesman. 😁👍
@BareRoseGarage
@BareRoseGarage 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are great, and great video UTG!
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441 2 жыл бұрын
That was a good explanation about torque boxes. I never knew what the reasoning was and what they were for. Very good. Thank you very much and I have subscribed to kiwi. I've seen his videos on the cuda and other stuff with his torque boxes. Really interesting. Thank you very much. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
@willkincaid5841
@willkincaid5841 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys thanks for all the cool stuff you put up and I had to watch this one. "Kiwi classic customs" is like a tounge twister for uncle Tony I almost break out laughing every time. Even kiwi is like wtf!
@mikeschneider2161
@mikeschneider2161 2 жыл бұрын
Added tube steel always helps 🙏🏻🍻
@ericuncapher9922
@ericuncapher9922 2 жыл бұрын
Signing up with Kiwi thanks UTG for another great channel option
@shawndcollier
@shawndcollier 2 жыл бұрын
We have added subframe connectors as well to all of out Mustang IIs.
@jerrywesterfield5636
@jerrywesterfield5636 10 ай бұрын
The fox body mustang (and most other pony cars) has been described as a 40 year old beer can on wheels with too much motor. Love them all.
@TonysHotRodGarage
@TonysHotRodGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi is indeed a master of metal work! Good stuff you guys! 👍
@robertb3409
@robertb3409 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I installed frame connectors on my 85 Mustang and it helped greatly on the road courses and the street. I would love to do a torque box reinforcement like in the video.
@601Volvo
@601Volvo 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video, I'm finishing up an 87 Volvo wagon with an LS swap. It definitely could use some of these strengthening techniques.
@AlienLivesMatter
@AlienLivesMatter 2 жыл бұрын
the monocoque on my 80's Mercedes has beefy chassis rails built into the unibody.
@brianmaynard7320
@brianmaynard7320 2 жыл бұрын
I have now subscribed to, Kiwis Classics and Customs.. These guys are awesome, UT!!
@topenddean
@topenddean 2 жыл бұрын
Convertibles and some other MoPar's came with those front "Torque Boxes" I've seen them on 340 cars too, hardtops and convertibles.
@M_Phipps0520
@M_Phipps0520 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi does excellent work!
@foyjamez
@foyjamez 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of rural roads out here, so that's a really good tip.
@jamesfranklin9855
@jamesfranklin9855 2 жыл бұрын
I put sub frame connectors and heavier leaf springs and rack and piñon plus other goodies on my 68 Mustang Coupe ( 302+)
@TD_YT066
@TD_YT066 2 жыл бұрын
Had a stock 289 '66 mustang, you could feel the gas pedal rise and fall in gusty winds driving on the highway as the front end and engine flexed with respect to the floor pan of the passenger section.
@jeffduncan9140
@jeffduncan9140 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you could! I noticed the same thing on my '65.
@donsteven236
@donsteven236 2 жыл бұрын
You two are awesome!
@stevenmitchell6347
@stevenmitchell6347 2 жыл бұрын
Putting torque boxes where the engineers didn't is "out thinking the engineers" as much as subframe connectors. It was as much a marketing decision as an engineering one. Beancounters and marketing have kept many vehicles from being the best version possible. I've never had any "popped" spot welds in vehicles with properly designed and installed subframe connectors/chassis rails but I also put a roll cage in many of them, too.
@michaelstagar525
@michaelstagar525 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best outstanding videos!
@mikebrooka9395
@mikebrooka9395 2 жыл бұрын
I have another project, 65 Rambler Marlin. Unibody she is. I am mapping out how to moly tube the front to the back. The trump card, a 6 point cage and tie it all together. I have a gm straight axle for the front. Just more math and geometry. Of course, me being me, she gets a bb Chevy under the lid. Just a little 402BBC. Ford 8.8 with 3.40 ish gears. It should be a fun street car. We will see in a year and half. Mikel
@davidmusselwhite1111
@davidmusselwhite1111 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss that's what I want to see. I don't want to see how to buy brand new stuff and brand new way out of my price range equipment to do work that I can do with basic equipment, thank you Tony
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 2 жыл бұрын
Who has an spare 50 thousand on mortgage to buy an latest app run car digital out of service in six months lunacy
@suntzu5836
@suntzu5836 2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to KCC...My kind of fabricator!
@matersworkshop6123
@matersworkshop6123 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. It will come in handy for building another MoPar dirt track car
@flatheadronsgarage7345
@flatheadronsgarage7345 2 жыл бұрын
Always getting an education from you Tony. Thanks for sharing your passion … Cheers to ya 🍻🇺🇸👍👍👍
@flatheadronsgarage7345
@flatheadronsgarage7345 2 жыл бұрын
OK Tony I created an account and sent you a message. You stinker, I didn’t know there was any contest or anything. Long live gassers.
@obsessedwithcars219
@obsessedwithcars219 2 жыл бұрын
getting my daily dose of UTG
@chrishensley6745
@chrishensley6745 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man and I,m still glad for a full frame car.....just my thought! Kiwi does good work for sure on areas where most avoid when it comes to fixing cars the right way.
@russellaustin4988
@russellaustin4988 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to frame connectors? Do we not use them anymore? Then you answered my question. Great info. I work on trucks now and still try to keep up on cars. I haven't built a driver in years, everything was full race. We never cared about the passenger compartment.
@ClaremontClassicGarage
@ClaremontClassicGarage 2 жыл бұрын
I had a taxi package 75 Dart. 4 Torque boxes. Was a very interesting car.
@johnkufeldt3564
@johnkufeldt3564 2 жыл бұрын
Barry Bannister does beautiful paintwork. That aint no rattle can rat rod. Cheers from John and Ashly
@BigT27295
@BigT27295 2 жыл бұрын
That dude knows what he is doing looks likes glass. Hats off brother.
@tysonastle3409
@tysonastle3409 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’m having an issue with car flexing and top edge of door, rubbing on back of fender. (Ebody Mopar)
@minnesotatomcat
@minnesotatomcat 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see 2 grown adults shoehorn themselves into the back seat of a mustang 🤣
@tabbott429
@tabbott429 2 жыл бұрын
I remember sitting in back of a 66 mustang when i was like 5 or 6 and my feet could touch the floor which amazed me at the time.!!
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
It's cozy .....
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt 2 жыл бұрын
GM didn't do much reinforcement of their unibody cars back then. That (and rusted/broken spring shackles) is a big reason why we used to see so many Camaros, Novas and their clones "dog tracking" back in the day. It's amazing how much difference a set of frame ties makes on any unibody car. I have weld in sub frame connectors under my 74 Z28 but, even the bolt in style makes a huge difference.
@keithiverson6687
@keithiverson6687 2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of helping pull the engine out of a friends 74 Trans Am with a heavily warmed over 455. We struggled to get the motor mounts free from the engine, but once it popped out the whole chassis twisted, cracking the windshield. The only thing keeping the car straight was the engine’s rigidity, the body was too far gone to fix at that point because there were cracks everywhere in the unibody and he ended up swapping the engine to another donor car.
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I remembered seeing front torque boxes on an A body 340 convertible and 340 4 speed cars, I know my 340 automatic car didn’t have anything, but sure could have used it.
@DeansofNomadica
@DeansofNomadica 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if a rustproofing product is applied before the torque box cover is installed? But I also imagine rustproofing may not be applied inside before cover is welded in place because of the welding heat unless the rustproofing product can sustain the heat created from the welder.
@stuborowski5301
@stuborowski5301 2 жыл бұрын
Check out kiwi's channel, he covered that when he replaced the entire floor in a mustang
@DeansofNomadica
@DeansofNomadica 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuborowski5301 Okay, Stu. I only recently knew about Kiwi and subscribed and I don't remember seeing that video or hearing him discuss it yet. Thanks for letting me.
@Dartman6
@Dartman6 2 жыл бұрын
Tony, my original '69 340 Swinger has factory torque boxes in the front that are pretty much the same as the ones Kiwi installed in the subject car. I'm assuming you meant that Mopar B and E bodies didn't have front torque boxes? Also, Kiwi's rear torque boxes look really good but they don't triangulate the front spring hanger bulkhead into the rail or rocker. His are good, but I think I'd want to tie the bulkhead in also.
@Greaseland
@Greaseland 2 жыл бұрын
UTG is going to have more spin offs than a All in the family.
@cristianomallmann3842
@cristianomallmann3842 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much because I'm noe learning a lot of new knows here.
@7t2z28
@7t2z28 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi does some nice work.
@michaelgiglio1571
@michaelgiglio1571 2 жыл бұрын
Tony can you pls show us the mustang cougar- box section when Kiwi is doing a Ford. Preferibly 70 - 76 modles. Us guys in Australia are getting a lot of horsepower out of the 351 cleveland. Would apresiate it. Mike
@davemachoukas6175
@davemachoukas6175 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks,very informative.
@jamespelczynski8347
@jamespelczynski8347 Жыл бұрын
Great job and kiwi too
@waynee1357
@waynee1357 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony what happened to DB Cooper?
@Whats-It-To-Ya
@Whats-It-To-Ya 2 жыл бұрын
@My Pronoun is WTF I have Cooper Cobras on my '86 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z. Awesome tires, way better than the Firestone Firehawk trash that I had on it.
@indianaslim4971
@indianaslim4971 2 жыл бұрын
He had a son and named him Tony....
@7x779
@7x779 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this yet but I had a 71 Cuda convertible, and that thing was the most unsolid flexible disgusting Rattle Trap I've ever had of any muscle car. Sure it's a beautiful car styling wise and fun to drive if it's a smooth Road, but I remember one time going across some railroad tracks that ran slightly diagonally across the road, and the response of the car was horrific. Twisting shaking rattling and rolling. Closing the doors was worse than slamming the door shut and an Old World War II military medal desk or filing cabinet. Wished I had kept the car for investment purposes, but while owning it I always wondered how I could stiffen the unibody, add some sound deadening, make it more solid and pleasurable to drive. In hindsight it's kind of funny thinking how absolutely horrific the build quality of the car was as opposed to the perception people have on the internet of it now because it appears so beautiful when those pixels of a 71 Cuda convertible light up on their cell phone or computer screen. And that's the true value of the car, when you're either pushing it or slowly driving it up the ramp to The Auction Block, or parking it somewhere to pose for a photo shoot
@damianporter7114
@damianporter7114 2 жыл бұрын
Nice paint
@tabbott429
@tabbott429 2 жыл бұрын
I always preferred the full frame cars. I had a 72 gran torino which had a full frame, 58 chevy full frame. I never like the idea of a unibody for a muscle car especially considering how much rust thyre prone to and then all the repairs are structural. THe auto makers were cheap and built cars cheap with minimal cost. Tesla has the right idea now with front and rear complete castings that replace all the spot welds and make a more uniform underbody that doesnt need welds at all. It aslo eliminates the stacking errors that hundreds of welded parts cause. I remember old mopars on the lift in auto shop class and the doors wouldnt close right when they were on the lift because of FLEX. i welded a ladder bar cross member in my 72 torino and i could jack up the whole right side of the car with one floor jack up front behind the front tire. It was stiff!
@kyle8952
@kyle8952 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla has an idea that was proven wrong a long time ago. You replace all the individual panels with a single aluminum one and you've created a continuous material for cracks to spread through. Tupolev discovered this way back in the 60s. With it's tendency to work harden it's also pretty much impossible to do safe repairs for otherwise minor frame damage without replacing a third of the car. There are ways to produce aluminum cars without welds but monolithic castings are NOT it. Bonded extrusions are much more viable. It's very in character for Tesla to use materials inappropriately because they think it sounds futuristic though (witness the plague of cast aluminium suspension arms snapping off because they're full of voids).
@jeffrey4547
@jeffrey4547 2 жыл бұрын
when i was a kid i learn this we had 600 hp in a 77 camaro it worked good then we went to 1200 hp and things went bad popped the front windshield out the car sat over a 1 inch higher on one side doors would not open no more think i was 17
@glenncrockett4451
@glenncrockett4451 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the frame connectors Chris Birdsong makes for his Mopars, he builds some sweet Mopars.
@1manshtshowandautobodystuf891
@1manshtshowandautobodystuf891 2 жыл бұрын
Love Tony's friend. ❤️
@landoncustomclassics
@landoncustomclassics 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys!!!
@MrRevell111
@MrRevell111 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Car Tool connectors on my cuda....lots of welding.
@jimdrechsel3611
@jimdrechsel3611 Жыл бұрын
This is really great. Did I hear right? Are there some 6 pack cars that didn’t have the torque boxes installed? I have a 70 six pack charger and it doesn’t have torque boxes. Is this possible if perhaps it was an early production car? Which 6 packs might not have received torque boxes? Thanks for a great video. I want to do this modification.
@davidlee6253
@davidlee6253 2 жыл бұрын
Are torque boxes better than subframe connectors? Building my first 65 mustang 347. I have experience with fox body's but that's it on ford's. Mostly been a chevy guy
@flyinnphilini3136
@flyinnphilini3136 2 жыл бұрын
Get some crites sub- frame connectors,& weld them in.
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose I'd go with torque boxes but ideally do both
@thomasward4505
@thomasward4505 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly sure my 68 dart convertible had additional floor pan material to connect the front to the rear
@JacksoNR26
@JacksoNR26 Ай бұрын
I have a question regarding unibody stiffing and how much torque an A body or B body mopar can handle before it twists and cracks, I'm planing on getting a A body duster 70 to 72 or a 71 to 72 demon, and running driveline wise a 496 383 base stroker on pump gas with a hemi 4 speed a 833 or a tremic tko 5 speed 600ftlb capacity with a built 8-3/4 rear end. With high pref. U joints and drive shaft. Rear gear wise I'm going with a 3:08 for the 4 speed or a 3:23 with the 5 speed. I've got a mopar preformance book that has a full unibody brace kit for A body mopars, I just don't want to spend extra money I'd I had to. I'm 23 years old, love muscle cars, and love the content .and I'm a ase certified mechanic, but for old school stuff utg I learn all from you and love every video especially diagnosis vids.
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 2 жыл бұрын
Please let us know what happens when you want to Replace the Leaf Spring Front hanger on A-Body? it looks to me like you need the open area to remove. also Check out Jim Pancake Super Stocker SS/AH hemi car underneath is a great design for bracing his 1968 Dart car
@tinkhamm7251
@tinkhamm7251 2 жыл бұрын
Tony this was good
@79asspin
@79asspin 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@natevanlandingham1945
@natevanlandingham1945 2 жыл бұрын
so that rear torque box that Kiwi put it seals the nuts from the rear leafs in right, or was there a provision to get at it...or you just cut out the welds if ever needed to get in there?
@karlx-1
@karlx-1 2 жыл бұрын
So, Guys... are subframe connectors good or bad on a big block car with a lot of torque??. I have a set for my Torino but not sure if I should install.
@joe-hp4nk
@joe-hp4nk 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best set up is a trailing arm rear suspension.
@peterdarr383
@peterdarr383 2 жыл бұрын
Coil springs, torque arm to the tranny mount and a Panhard Bar. The rear axle is always aligned to the center of gravity.
@bsg3054
@bsg3054 2 жыл бұрын
All Aussie made Valiant utes from 1965 and all sedans/wagons/utes/Hardtops and Chargers from 1971 had torque boxes fitted
@calvincrews3885
@calvincrews3885 2 жыл бұрын
Torque box are great but why not Subframe Connecters they keep both ends of the Unibody nice and straight
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