Uncovering Iran's Lost Civilization: Jiroft, an Ancient Civilization That Remained Hidden Until 2001

In 2001, a flash flood on a plain in southern Iran, exposed the archaeological remains of a previously unknown ancient civilization. The beautiful and captivating finds that came out of the ground brought to light the 4,000 year old Bronze Age culture that prospered alongside the likes of the Indus and Mesopotamian civilizations. An ancient, possibly mythological city whos discovery could forever change our understanding of history, like that of the legendary Troy and elusive Punt. This is Jiroft: Iran’s Lost Civilization
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[@lambert801]

The sad thing is that so few people know of this incredible civilization, even among professionals. I just had the privilege of visiting Jiroft today and the museum there (displaying exclusively the relics of Jiroft civilization), and I was astounded. The Jiroft civilization was just as old and sophisticated as the other major civilizations of its time. The relics I saw in the museum were astonishingly creative and sophisticated artworks. Huge pottery vessels; vessels made of soapstone with intricate designs, showing serpents, scorpions, and some other animals, almost always adorned with bones and precious stones; little toys made of bronze; small statues made of marble; board games made of soapstone in the shape of animals and a 'scorpion-man.' I believe the Jiroft civilization deserves no less attention than civilizations like Egypt and Sumer.

[@richjordan6461]

Do you know it's relation to the BMAC aka Oxus Civilization also slowly filtering into Western consciousness

[@kenmcclellan]

Scorpion Man remembered in Mauritania and Mexico ... 17,600 BC.

[@mariem7204]

Thanks !🌿

[@alexissvetrev]

​@@kenmcclellan source?

[@aqmorisny]

Thank you for making the video about the history of my country Iran. I have heard about Jiroft historical sites in the past but I didn't know what exactly the story was, your work is pretty amazing and educational. You can find a new old civilization with Every shovel you put in the soil of Iran(a little bit of exaggeration). We have a piece of land in a rural area in countryside we had a plan for constructing a new house on the land, so I picked up and shovel and a pickaxe to prepare the foundation, after some days of breaking sweats, I found some old tools such as jars, rusty knives, hooks, trowels, jar leads, a clay oven under the first layer of the soil. It turns out that the tools were for the mother of my grandfather, there was an old house there and after the migration of my grandfather to Tehran the old house has been turned ruined they decided to bring the remaining down to the floor and some old tools of them remained under the soil. Today my country facing a huge problem, the Islamic Republic, this type of government try to destroy people's minds by forcing the Islamic religion in all form you could imagine They force women to wear hijab, you have watched the news about Mahsa Amini's sad story which is happening all the time in Iran. Ironically some of their reasons for killing and putting oppression of people are historical, the Mullahs(Islamic clerics) say that the hijab historically is a part of Iranian culture, they show images of Takht-e-Jamshid that men wear full cloth and say they are women and this is reason for hijab from before Islam for women! I know it is crazy but happening in Iran. Many people and I would like to change the situation by bringing a secular democracy to Iran. Please help many of the Iranian people with creating content about clothing in the ancient history of Iran, if you can. I wrote a lot, Thank you for your time.

[@talitek]

THIS IS SO COOL! Thank you so much for sharing. I had no idea this culture existed, even though I've been on a massive Bronze Age binge recently. Can't wait to learn more about this civilization! I wonder if we'll be able to interpret the writing system and find out what language they spoke. Would be incredibly cool if we learn it's an Indo-European language.

[@khaulezaskhosana5062]

You're a pervert.

[@fromtheashes2555]

It would be even cooler if it turns out to be Elamite or related to Elamite. Or something related to Dravidian

[@richjordan6461]

​@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 are you referring to the BMAC civ aka Oxus Civilization?

[@richjordan6461]

Tali, have you heard yet about the Oxus River Civilization? (Aka BMAC)

[@upasanasarmah7749]

It was so beautifully made... you have such a excitement in your face when you talk about this kind of things. I love that.. Good to have you back. 🤗

[@douglasboyle6544]

I was thinking the exact same thing, I'm so glad she's back in her groove!

[@williamking3301]

I remember reading about this around 2004 or 2005 in either a short newspaper or magazine article (might have been Archaeology Magazine, I had a subscription back then), and it was indeed quite exciting to learn about. I have not kept up much with archaeological news from then until quite recently, so it is so cool to find out more. The scripts that were shown are quite amazing. Hopefully the Joroftians' writing will someday be decoded and their language translated so we can fill in the gaps of ancient Middle Eastern history.

[@lawrence5117]

Always good to learn of something new. Thanks Raven, great video.

[@DigItWithRaven]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@IranAzadLoading]

Thank you :) jiroft was likely related to Elam. The oldest Lion and Sun symbol that is traditionally on the flag of Iran has been found in Jiroft

[@rostam43]

can you give more information about this please?

[@user-wn7cf8pu3t]

ایلام مربوط به جیرفت است بزرگترین زیگورات جهان در جیرفت است وقدیمی ترین خطا در جیرفت کشف شده که هنوز رمز گشایی نشده

[@dionisiodussart5629]

The Oxus Civilization, a non-iranian urban civilization nicknamed BMAC, is also thought to have been under Elamite influence. Its dramatic and brutal collision with Iranians, coming from the North (actually Andronovians but they keep neing named Iranians), is thought to be the time when was born the Indo-Aryan nation. Further South some Iranians named themselves Aryans : spiritual, civilized people, which obviously they were not while crossing wildly Central Asia.

[@ArrowBast]

I think Sumerians mentioned a civilization of Aratta - maybe it refers to the Jiroft Bam cultures. Else Aratta refers to Bactria and maybe the same as modern Herat ?

[@IranAzadLoading]

@@ArrowBast possible

[@Artur_M.]

An immensely fascinating topic! I remember learning for the first time about this civilisation from a video by History with Cy (a really cool channel) two years ago like it was last month.

[@DigItWithRaven]

Ah I love History with Cy! Such a great channel

[@fretnesbutke3233]

Yeah, History with Cy is awesome!

[@meysamghahremaninejad6809]

I appropriate for pointing out the looters issues. one of my distant relative found a ancient burial ground in a cave near a remote seasonal lake in west part of Iran {He was poor and jobless and had mouth to feed} and upon he founded an Artifact (I did not see the Artifact but the one who saw it describe it as an angel like figurine made out of eroded metal or something, most likely belonging to Sassanian era). he was smart enough to not tell anyone about the site, so he come up with a fake back story about the artifact being a family heritage, so he met the smugglers who promises him a lot of money, then they took it from him by pointing a gun at his head and left him alone in the cold freezing mountains, after this incident he did not dare to go back to the burial ground but after few weeks the government agents became interested about some rumors and starting asking question, and soon they arrested him, turns out somehow the smugglers had been caught and led the agents to him, so they beat him for good and finally he told them where he founded the Artifacts. He remained in prison for some years, His family fell apart, And utimately perished in addiction

[@krisbest6405]

Very sad,many layers of ugly huma behaviour.

[@jagdeepsandhu9659]

Sad story .

[@budgetgitarr5351]

5:33 If I travel to Egypt and start looking for ancient artefacts to sell one could say that I'd be part of a pyramid sceme.

[@camillastacey4674]

The artwork is absolutely amazing, it looks so contemporary in a lot of ways, seeing how excited you were made me feel super emotional!

[@paulheydarian1281]

Females tend to react that way to each other's feminine hysteria. Why is that? 🤔

[@camillastacey4674]

@@paulheydarian1281 probably due to our wandering wombs

[@paulheydarian1281]

@@camillastacey4674 🙄🤔😅🤪😉

[@velvetgoldmine4300]

Fantastic video Raven! I'm excited to learn more about this civilization! The artifacts found were beautiful, and it would be amazing to have a more complete understanding of the history of the area. I love the empathy you showed to poor people trying their best to survive 💖The world is hard out there, and capitalism is broken. I thought I couldn't love you more than I did after learning of our shared affinity for Moulin Rouge, but this sent me over the moon! Keep up the awesome work!

[@ferdinandsiegel8967]

It isn't that capitalism is broken it's because of the greed that lives in all humans.

[@williamking3301]

@@ferdinandsiegel8967 I agree, that is so true. Because of greed, capitalism, unregulated and unfettered, is indeed a monster.

[@BazNard]

Velvet goldmine, you stroke me like the rain

[@saskiacowan8962]

Yay! More archaeology content!

[@DigItWithRaven]

I gotchu ;)

[@fightfannerd2078]

It's older sumer

[@jerrycratsenberg989]

Wow! Thank you so very much for sharing this exciting discovery. By the way, I like your sweater! Thank you also for your compassion for the looters.

[@elihinze3161]

Just when it starts to feel like we've uncovered all we can, something else amazing rises from the sands. And right between two world-changing ancient cultures, no less! Also... perhaps a video on rainbows in the ancient world is in order? 👀

[@DigItWithRaven]

The sad thing is there aren't many images available for ancient rainbows on the internet :( it made me sad

[@amonamaria2000]

Some cities are covered in water and some covered in 2 miles of volcano ash and mud. The more they destroy the Earth the more they uncover.

[@rolandcooke]

That was wonderful, thanks for educating us!

[@DigItWithRaven]

My pleasure :D

[@DinoTamer-22]

This is so cool! Thanks so much for all this new info!

[@DigItWithRaven]

You are so welcome!

[@mcburcke]

Great info! BTW, the second "script" example at 13:00 immediately struck me as being musical notation rather than a language script. Just my impression. But, on the sample tablet in the video has only eight symbols on it; there are eight notes in a musical octave. Other tablets may expand the number of this type of symbology, but this one tablet is very intriguing for what it may be.

[@mozhgansavabieasfahani7560]

Thank you for bringing attention to Jiroft. Jiroft deserves much more international attention and investigation than it has received. Islamic Republic should be given credit for recovering thousands of artifacts from Jiroft. Neglect of Jiroft, I suspect, is because of the racism that has been cultivated by US propaganda against Iran. Comparable important archaeological sites in Turkey, for example, have received much more attention than Jiroft. But, if Iranian people are anything it is enduring and persistent. Jiroft will persist and it will be adequately studied. زن زندگی آزادی. Women, life, freedom.

[@LadyLeda2]

You have a good point there about US and Iran. But I would not call it racism. It is more political than racism.

[@douglasboyle6544]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I know I hadn't heard about it and it indeed is a potential game changer and I'm looking forward to every bit of information that comes out of here. My understanding about Iran though, the government has its issues that we all know too well but the people take their cultural past very seriously and do work diligently fighting looters at all levels, preserving their archaeology, and have always shown impressive scholarship so there is no doubt we will be learning much more from this site in the future.

[@bernardomingarelli619]

You know, this was a really good video. Keep it up :)

[@jedgrahek1426]

I am super impressed with the whole opening tangent about the looting hierarchy and root causes, ending with you actually saying what I was thinking but didn't expect to hear said about it all being a natural consequence of Capitalism. The more common it becomes for people to see that as basic common sense rather than some radical political position, the better chance our species has at a decent future.

[@LadyLeda2]

What would you replace capitalism with? Do you not think it is human greed rather than capitalism?

[@Shakspier]

Oh wow, this is so exciting! I wish I could help decipher the scripts of the Jaraft civilization ❤ I am very much interested in archeology and ancient history of the Near East ✨

[@rachmondhoward2125]

Passionately presented and amazing discovery.

[@rockerobertson4002]

Love your content. First time here. Very cool news.

[@dougniergarth236]

Haha . . I see your game of Ur back there. It made me smile. This is the first I've heard of the this new possible culture and I thank you for bringing it to wider attention!

[@robgau2501]

I can't believe I didn't know about this channel! I love it. I just found it. And this video is awesome.

[@KelciaMarie1]

Your empathy for looters is a real credit to you, and something I don't often hear talked about.

[@sapientisessevolo4364]

First off, great video! This is why funding in archaeology and history in general is important, as time progresses the stuff we can learn is less and less just cause it wears away and we lose even more context (insert mesopotamian bar joke with the dog). And that includes the geography and climate of the past (especially considering climate change now, and you know how a stable climate is a requirement for civilisation, and how apparently human civilisations came just around the time the climate changed and stabilized thousands of years ago) And now for my completely unqualified opinion on this. So this puts the whole cradle of civilisation into question? What if the shared culture is a result of a branching off point from a sort of proto civilisation. That, or there just that much trade going on and/or this is like a rome and Greece or Japanese and chinese situation, and it's just huge amounts of cultural influence

[@fanzy1338]

This is super exciting. Can’t wait to learn more details about this amazing civilization.

[@markbeck8384]

Fascinating. I had not heard of this. The artifacts are beautiful. I think Bronze Age stuff is so interesting. Tnanks.

[@pavelandreev4727]

Important tangent indeed. One other thing you said - how much we still don't know about our history made me think. Now we leave a lot of stuff behind for future historians and archeologists to discover. But as our world is so divided it is hard even for us that live in it to know the truth about so many events that happen around us. How do archeologist account for this when looking into the past with so little to go on, how do they separate not only their own biases but those of the people that lived thousands of years ago?

[@beeg693]

Not only are there things under the dirt, but what about cities are buried under the water along the coast. I agree we don't know that much. Glad to hear there is another civilization to discover....

[@frankmccann29]

Hi, Raven! Good to see you again 😂😍❤️. Love you, your delivery, content etc. Innana and Utu flew all over the world in ancient antigravity airships, from the way it looks. Circa 100k years? Speculation? We'll see.

[@satinthrone]

Yowza! Can't believe I never heard about this when doing archaeology at uni in the mid noughties

[@DigItWithRaven]

I never heard of it in school either!

[@d.c.monday4153]

Thank you Raven! Love your gesticulating enthusiasm!

[@Davlavi]

Informative as always.

[@DigItWithRaven]

Thank you!

[@MK-lh3xd]

Fascinating archeological find. An engrossing and exciting presentation Raven! There are stories of rivalry between eagles and snakes in Hindu mythology. As the narrative goes they were step brothers/sisters, being the children of two sisters 'Vinatha' and 'Kadru'. So may be they were two related ancient races whose stories had turned into myths already by the time of the beginning of Hindu and other ancient civilizations. It is an exciting rabbit hole to get into.

[@extremistterrorist]

The truth is that Eagle symbolises Aryans the outer world and snake symbolises semites the inner world and there was war between those races for years in ancient times

[@celiabrickell2500]

@restlessdestroyer the Semitic languages are a part of the Indo-European language family. Therefore your theory doesn't hold water.

[@deewesthill1213]

An eagle fighting a snake is also a symbol of the Mexica (Aztecs).

[@devilishworld4259]

@@celiabrickell2500 , yes, at that time the neanderthals where still getting mesmerized by the “FIRE”.

[@stephenlitten1789]

@@celiabrickell2500 Nope. Semitic languages are part of the Afroasiatic language family. However, as there was a more constant warfare between the Indo-Aryans and the Iranians, it is probable the eagle is Iranian and the snake Aryan

[@reporeport]

your channel is great

[@golddragonette7795]

I'm an archaeologist, and yes the loss of context is severe - but people were trying to not starve!!

[@zam6877]

Thanks for showing how these findings have great systemic reverberations in other areas of study Thank you for showing compassion to those who have little or no options to feed their families...we are the ones that created these economic systems that we all suffer from

[@williamking3301]

What is needed is stronger laws with teeth to collapse the black market in antiquities by attacking the problem at both ends of the stick: 1. provide incomes and better relief for and incentives to the poor to not loot and 2. kill the demand for antiquities by going after the rich assholes willing to pay for black-market (by confiscating their ill-gotten artifacts, repatriating them, and fining them so heavily as to use those fines to fund relief efforts and job incentives to those same poor people doing the looting to survive--it is all a recycling idea, feeding itself).

[@vomeronasal]

Excellent presentation! Very interesting finds, curious links, and a gorgeous scientist!

[@nargesraee1867]

I went to Jiroft same place two years after it was discovered! They built a museum close to the excavation area where we met Mr Majidzadeh The area was heaven for archeologists.

[@user-oj6hi3xx7o]

سلام نرگس تمدن جیرفت نزدیک کرمان هستش و شما باستان شناس هستین؟

[@nargesraee1867]

@@user-oj6hi3xx7o سلام بله در نزدیکی شهر کرمان هست. من باستان شناس نیستم ولی به باستان شناسی و تاریخ بسیار علاقه دارم.‌ من نقاش هستم

[@nargesraee1867]

سلام من تخصص موزه شناسی میخونم و به کرمان سفر کردم و به این تپه وقتی در حال کاووش بود رفتم

[@jerseystotler3615]

Oh my goodness!! SUBSCRIBED!! Wanted to go to school to be a archaeologist and anthropologist back in the day!! Still a amateur student on my own, even now in my 60s!!!!!

[@LadyLeda2]

Same thing with me, Jersey!!! Only I was born in the wrong country. The only thing we have here in the US is digging up Indian things. Not interested in that. I want to go way back further in time. I am also in my 60's now.

[@Drizzable555]

okay this was so amazing and fascinating! i love learning about ancient civilizations like this and it just makes me wonder WHO were the first settled civilization? like, if Sumer was writing about this city, that shows that people were living in a society that couldn’t have been nomadic before we even know of

[@ryanbaker614]

Fantastic content!

[@george-8043]

Thanks, I love this channel 😊

[@matthewlowry1084]

So good to see you back

[@DigItWithRaven]

It’s good to be back!

[@thhseeking]

It's good to see you smiling, happy, and enthusiastic again :D

[@dorianmclean6755]

How exciting !!! This is a big wow ! Thank you !

[@BNaturalStudios]

Fantastic work.

[@franciscor.6828]

Thank you for the news. I love Elam and Old iranian Cultures. ✌🏻

[@dalekiernan5386]

Good job. I have not heard of this place. Thanx

[@Fleeinhorse]

Just subscibed. V.interesting findings !!

[@TheScandoman]

So we DID have knowledge; we just refused to believe it in any way! Classic!

[@arunadaybasu]

Two Words - Mind Blown!

[@kenmcclellan]

The piece at 0:13 is hugely important. The Orion pole shift with Leo. That happened about 4515 BC. First day of Taurus. It appears to have involved a reversal. This would be important to us, since the zodiac has moved 6 hours of right ascension since that date -- so could be the trigger of a shift. One of the cataclysms came on the quarter Precession. Meaning this could be a vitally important time in the life of Gaia. Winter solstice played Gate of the Sun in 2022. Vernal equinox carried 1st of Aries to Pisces-Aquarius. So summer solstice is the new Tauroctony.

[@LadyLeda2]

I do not know much about the Zodiac signs but you are right about the polar shift. Geologists can see the shift in the rocks on Earth.

[@classicslover]

Don't know if this comment will show up twice! Got distracted, hit a button and I was suddenly elsewhere. Navigated back here and what I had typed was gone. It's not Monday, is it? (squinting) Trying to determine if that sweater is newer...but I think it was in the rotation during your Christmas event. Right? STELLAR video as usual, Raven! You never cease to impress! Question: Are we perhaps going to get a video on the topic of your new-found obsession with ancient depictions of rainbows? (You have FUN obsessions by the way) And this video: An ancient (possibly) mythological (distinctions are important) city come to life! Gives one hope for the discovery of Bedrock. = )

[@DigItWithRaven]

It is indeed a new sweater!! Trying to pare down and curate the collection now. I thought about the rainbow video but alas, not a lot of images available to share 😭🌈

[@classicslover]

@@DigItWithRaven But...There must have been many teenage girl's walls in history. Plus Thor's Bifrost (Rainbow Bridge). HIndu mythology also has a god of thunder who shoots arrows with a rainbow. PLUS Leprechauns with their pots of gold. = ) Some current South American cultures claim ancient affinity to rainbows as well. But I don't know if there are any ancient pictures of them. Annnd...a girl on the go travels lighter with less sweaters. I understand. The trade off is you'll probably have to do laundry more often. = )

[@zalphero618]

Very good content

[@NishanthSalahudeen]

11:00 hearing this section, i am reminded of the story of a god of indian pantheon, "krishn", a Shepard king of yadava clan (may be can be phonetically similar to etava), who is a human form of god Vishnu, who travels on his powerful eagle garuda, who is an enemy of the snakes, and ate up a lot of the snake population. Am not implying anything, but mentioning something whing rang a bell. And 14:18... "Arratta" rhymes with "aryardha" or "aryavartha", which could imply "land or domain of Arya".

[@amirheidarzadeh5891]

Very interesting, thanks very much ❤

[@axel1957ll]

Great video! Thank you

[@DigItWithRaven]

Glad you liked it!

[@axel1957ll]

I would not have heard of this new city if you had not posted about it. Your efforts are appreciated

[@igor-yp1xv]

This is awesome. The stone craft reminds me of the Oxus civilization.

[@ahmadreza6886]

Thanks for your video I love ere in jiroft, your video was amazing

[@MrMrblazer1234]

Very interesting topic! I love hearing about these lesser known or lesser researched Central Asian civilizations. There’s a lot it seems we still need to learn here. I was curious if you would ever cover something related to some of the pre-history or early people of Ukraine or the Central Asian steppe. The people on A Life in Ruins did a podcast with someone who was doing research on the steppe some timed ago- it seems like a super interesting topic that doesn’t get talked about on archaeology KZbin too much! Also hoping you do another ancient recipe. Maybe you could collaborate with Tasting History. Cheers!

[@OshinAttari]

Central Asian Civilizations are Iranian Western China Civilization Belongs to Tocharians Tocharians are Cousins of Iranian People

[@mnomadvfx]

The Cucuteni Trypillian people were indeed very interesting.

[@williamking3301]

I just recently watched two vids about Ukrainian history on the Kings and Generals channel, very well done. One is about 2 hours long and goes into gerater detail: 1.Ancient Origins of the Kievan Rus kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHmzfXl-fayeY9E and 2. Meidieval Origins of Ukrainians kzbin.info/www/bejne/aabceYp7hNSDpK8

[@FFF-tt6yo]

Great information. Iran is the Cradle of civilization

[@brendan9635]

Super interesting!!!

[@worldofmix6766]

Make a video on so called burnt city civilization in Iran They conducted eye surgeries and had sewer systems about 8000 years ago, they also had some early example of animations

[@paulheydarian1281]

-Swear- -> sewer system

[@kenboydart]

Very nice presentation Raven, although I see behind you “ fancy things on fancy shelves “ And good for you too .

[@user-ol2fb9fo7r]

I love this culture! ❤❤❤ I wish I lived among these people! ❤

[@marze904]

Wow! Thanks

[@charlesReed239]

Nice to see a new perspective. Most of the ancient history channels are the same. Good luck and keep posting.

[@pridefulobserver3807]

Yay, more fun archealogy !!

[@DigItWithRaven]

It's the most fun one can have!!

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

There’s been looting since time immemorial. Most graves are robbed within a few decades of being buried, often by the same people who dug them. Architectural features also get looted - for the stone - by local farmers and villagers. It’s not exclusively a feature of capitalism.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

No but it doesn't help.

[@Wolfen443]

Interesting story, how long did they remained undiscovered is even more amazing.

[@ColemanCanna]

Sadly i hear very little of information about older cultures coming out of Iran. Very sadly. Thank you for sharing this.

[@juyacity3734]

Hello Raven! from Iran, very cool video, i like your earrings, im from Susa-Dezful, Iran, where we say, 7 cities underground !

[@shulker3297]

In from Iran thank you for this video

[@paulheydarian1281]

Considering the high level of corruption in the region, most likely, many of these artefacts have ended up in private European, Japanese, and North American collections. And, that's how you destroy your own past. The people of the Middle-East, Central-Asia, and South Asia are very good at doing this, because they don't know any better. It's sad, but true.

[@davidbenyahuda5190]

Unless you are Black there is no our past. So-called non-black people have only been on the planet for six to ten thousand years and are NOT human according to science precluding them from any discussion of human origins and civilization.👊🏿🕎⚔️🏹🌽🪶

[@edgarsnake2857]

Thanks Raven.

[@bc4198]

Thank you so much for speaking, thoughtfully, in defense of the subsistence diggers.

[@ralphstern2845]

Thank you

[@charliem5254]

New civilization discovered...in 2001. Never mind that it's actually an old civilization that's been uncovered.

[@bobroy3746]

11.03 There is a story of battle between eagles and snakes in Hinduism where the king of the birds, Garuda had to bring the elixir of life from heaven to the mother of snakes to free his own mother from her. But the lord of heaven, Indra removed took the elixir back when the snakes went for a bath before consuming the elixir.

[@clairebeebum]

super interesting. also love your nails girl

[@Var03]

Like the energy and positive vibe in you!!! Tbh your video looks more about individual discover than pushing some agenda. Need more historians and archaeologists like you 😊

[@Lind-po4ml]

thank you from Jiroft ☺️☺️

[@kaloarepo288]

Similar to how in the 1970's Italian archaeologists in Syria discovered the hitherto unknown civilization of Ebla - a culture predating the Semitic Aramaean era.

[@reelshare80]

Nice .Another civilization found in Southern indian state of tamilnadu called " keeladi civilization" and also they Researching in oldest African genes(m130) 50,000 years old gene found in Man named Virumandi from south India Tamilnadu.

[@LadyLeda2]

WOW!!!

[@jeremywales8]

Thank you for your vast, & passionate enthusiasm. 😎💕. Lapis Lazuli is very coveted. I have a suspicion this was an advanced society. Much love dear one. 🥰❤️‍🔥💎💜💯🕯️💕🤙🏻✨

[@TheRotnflesh]

I'm going to paint a totally hypothetical picture but, like all archaeological concepts, it is backed by evidence: Civilization spanned the globe; primarily agrarian/shamanistic in culture living in harmony with the world using natural science (basic alchemical understanding of chemical reactions, alloys, etc), harmonics (acoustic manipulation is a very natural, casual study easily understood using basic materials such as bowls of water, copper plates and sand, etc. Modern Tibetan chants and mandala are acoustic mapping exercises that are incredibly old), and stoneworking technology. They built primarily in granite, basalt, andesite, and limestone because of the relative harmonics, the chemical properties, and the mechanical applications of such stones (conduction, piezoelectrics, insulation, magnetism, durability, etc). Their understanding of celestial dynamics, precessional cycles, geodetics, and universal forces was very advanced: Reflected in their constructions that we find across the world from South America to Indonesia are mathematic concepts we did not rediscover until the greeks, megalithic-sized stones weighted between 40 and 1200 tons oriented to true north in organized piles stacking hundreds of feet in the air, observance of the solstices, geometric city and settlement layouts, utilization of Pi/phi/radians in construction designs, large gathering zones spanning hundreds of thousands of square kilometers as is found in Turkey or South America beneath the Amazon. They rode the seas and, possibly, controlled the skies. This civilization, so mighty and advanced, knew it couldn't last. Over the millenia the comet Encke had spread further and further out as a result from the tidal disruption of its orbit in a distant past, leaving an elliptical trail of debris from dust to mountain-sized chunks of rock and ice. Over the millennia chunks of this comet have pelted the Earth, reinforcing mankind's need to build using super-strong and solid stone materials. On one day around 12,600 years ago observers spot a huge object trailing across the daytime sky. They observe it over several hours streaking in a bright yellow line towards the north. Suddenly the object flashes and splits into dozens of smaller, bright objects that veer off from the core in slightly altered flight paths, still heading north. A hollow boom is heard around the world followed by dozens of sharper booms before the skies go completely quiet. Birds fall silent, stalkers go still, humans everywhere stand up and look to the north. Then a torrential gust spreads across the globe, a a strong wind from a direction people everywhere didn't expect it from. They shake their heads and go on with their lives not realizing they would soon be fighting for them. The meteors struck the ice sheets in the polar north, melting billions of gallons of ice into steam and what couldn't rise as steam quickly enough melted more ice in an almost-out of control reaction: Molten-hot supersonic chunks of million-ton rock met below-freezing ice in a catastrophic BOOM, boom boom boom boom....boom... boom boom... boom! Torrents of water pressure-forced by incredibly dense atmospheric vapor trying to expand in the freezing sub-arctic air deluged down through the lowlands carving out entire valleys: The Scablands of Washington State, the alluvial plains of the Mississippi River, ejected ice chunks forming the Carolina Bays, and a flooding out of all of lowland society. Millions of square kilometers of coastal areas, low hills, and high plain lands became inundated by oceans rising at rapid-to-slower rates over several years; infrastructure was abandoned, plague and famine erupted, and society collapsed. Freezing sleet storms came and went across the globe for nearly 1200 years, rewriting history and reshaping the land. A hard winter of 40 generations stripped most of the sophistication of this civilization. No longer did they have the continuity of knowledge and understanding to build the amazing structures of their ancestors. They had forayed out from their caves and underground safe lairs over these many generations to survive and, in doing so, lost those sophistications. Rudimentary technical knowledge was all that remained: Basic celestial knowledge, how to manipulate matter, how to cut stone and build with it, and how to grow food. These people had been scattered and separated for so long they didn't know each other. They didn't speak the same languages. They didn't have the same customs, or cultures, or even food. They had no continuity left. They came out of their caves and their underground safe lairs and found the ruins of their ancient civilization. The seas has risen so high that much of the land was gone, or reshaped, or located far beyond where their ancestors had originally lived. They rebuilt what they could find (this is evidenced by layers of construction techniques, the oldest being the most advanced) or tried to preserve and recase their monuments over millenia, repurposing older sites or building in replicate designs or lesser sophistication and rising back to world powers by 3200 BC. The pre-Chico Norte. The pre-Harrapans. The pre-Egyptians. The pre-Sumerians. The pre-Jiroft. There were more; we went 'to ground' all over the world after all, 100-200 at a time. The cultures/civilizations we know of are what came out of the next cataclysm. 3200-3100 BC a meteor streaks across the southern skies, striking the Indian Ocean and causing a 400 meter mega tsunami. Around the same time two similar sized meteors strike the Mediterranean Sea causing a 800 meter mega tsunami. These tsunamis carved out mountains, swept across plains, laid deserts, and buried most of the old world that wasn't in shadow zones or highland in silt, sand, and sediment. The chevrons proving these mega-tsunamis can easily be found on Google Earth (covering all coastlines from east Africa and Madagascar in the southwest to the Red Sea/Saudi Pninsula to the north, to western India and Australia to the east) but have yet to be properly studied as a world project (Ozgeographics on youtube is going the ground work for this to date). These tsunamis flooded through the Sahara and buried Old Egypt. The Egyptians were the peoples who came and found the remains of the civilization here (LandofChem and UnchartedX have a lot of content about the Giza plateau that would interest anyone curious about what natural science looks like, having studied these sites for years with specialists). From the Red Sea to the tip of the Saudi Peninsula the land was flooded out, entire nations vanishing under billion-gallon tsunamis carrying anything not 'bolted down': Walls, streets, buildings, monuments, and people caught up in a tangled mess of water, dirt, sand, and rocks. Every settlement, city, center of power, technologically egotistical achievement was swept out to sea. The continuity was lost again. Unlike the Younger Dryas this is a short-termed cataclysm. Several years of anomalous weather and a return to normalcy. Civilization was wiped out, but the foundations and memory remained. The people came out of their caves and their safe lairs and proceeded to rebuild again with lesser sophistication; the Egyptians repurposed the Giza plateau but couldn't precision-cut the thousand-ton super-hard stones anymore, the last of which was stored in the early Dynastic tomb Djoser's Pyramid: 40,000 stone-cut vases, bowls, plates, etc whose dimensions have been analyzed to be mathematically perfect utilizing radians, pi, and phi. So perfect it can be CAD modelled by math alone (UnchartedX analysis, check his channel). The Norte-Chico and Olmec civilizations repurposed the remote south American road system that was left as well as many of the structural components of their ancestral group. Inner India attempted to maintain a continuity of their history through their eras of empire, encompassing not only the knowledge of atomic energy but genetic engineering, metaphysics, and more.Sumeria maintained their kinglists and histories such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, some of which are believed to have influenced modern myths such as Noah's Flood. Down through the millenia we have warred with each other over what is right. Laws, rules, borders, etc are all an attempt to answer one question or other of purpose: Who are we? Where did we come from? Why are we here? Lately its become harder and harder to believe we are 1. a new race, 2. separate from the world or divinity, 3. building our society the right way, because we are not actually connected to the Earth on a conscious level anymore; its materialistic, defined by numerical values. Under our current paradigm "Spirit has no divisible numerical value, but things do; the Earth must then be a thing without a soul, because it has a divisible numerical value" and this is wrong; without a spirit there would be no individuality and the math required to numerically define a soul would use infinities as values because it is more than likely a quantum manifestation that the ancients of pre-history already understood. We are doing it wrong.

[@Edward24081]

I got so excited over there being a new undeciphered script, with potentially bilingual tablets, but apparently because of the lack of context they're considered to be fake.

[@DigItWithRaven]

That’s the disappointing thing with looted objects. And because it’s all new objects, it’s not as easy to tell as with other cultures where we have more evidence of legitimate, contextual pieces

[@Edward24081]

@@DigItWithRaven The new script itself looks pretty suspicious as well, being just simple squares, circles, etc. New writing systems tend to start off complicated and simplify over time.

[@JS-jh4cy]

Which map are you using to show the old cities and territories of the civilizations bronze age?

[@AS-yf4jr]

I just hope we find a roseta stone there to help us decipher Indus valley Civilization writings.

[@thebatt6183]

fascinating

[@allangardiner2515]

Thank you for putting on record the real blame for looting. Yet another catastrophe that has happened since the logic of production for profit rather than need has triumphed. Raven is a fantastic science communicator.

[@skepticalgenious]

1:02 that looks like the American eagle. Almost identical. Que the creepy music. 😂 Love the content raven. Glad your back at it.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

The American eagle is based on images on coins from Ptolemaic Egypt.

[@skepticalgenious]

@@sirrathersplendid4825 really... Cool. I imagine it's probably even older then them. Being borrowed through the centuries and millennia. I have not seen it yet at sarahan teppe or Gobeki teppe.

[@charleshash4919]

Plenty of local eagle, hawk and falcon species in SW Asia that could more likely be represented in this figure than a Bald Eagle.

[@charleshash4919]

​​@@sirrathersplendid4825 The choice of the Bald Eagle as the national bird of the U.S.A. (over the Turkey preferred by Ben Franklin, who commented negatively on the Bald Eagle's rapacious, predatory and scavenging methods for meeting its food needs) is probably the reason there are eagles on some copper, silver, and gold coins of US origin. The eagles on coins of Ptolemaic (Greek-ruled) Egypt are similar to those on coins produced in Greater Syria under both Greek and Roman rulers, and probably were the archetype upon which eagles on US coins were based (because many of our leaders at the time of Indepence were trained in the Classics), but the eagles on these US coins are likely intended to depict the American Bald Eagle (our national bird) and not an eagle of European, African or Asian origin.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

@@charleshash4919 - Sure, I was referring only to the design showing a standing eagle, which is clearly based on Hellenistic coins dating back to about 300 B.C. It appeared on coins shortly after the death of Alexander the Great and presumably refers to his empire, and is best known from the tetradrachms issued in Alexandria in Egypt (a city he founded). It also appears on coins of the great merchant cities along the Levantine coast, such as Sidon. Now, where the archetype itself came from I’m not sure. In turn, the Statue of Liberty was ultimately based on the Colossus of Rhodes, which represented the sun-god Helios.

[@flightographist]

There are looters everywhere as well as unscrupulous dealers. I suspect and hope the Iranian government will not be lenient with the dealers and the 'peasants' are educated firmly but with mercy. A tangent worthy of mention, given the current swirling milieu created by the hancock et al, is the stone vessel assemblage. It illustrates the 3rd millennium technology was contemporary with pre-dynastic Egypt, although perhaps not as refined- so, no aliens!

[@jeffatwood9417]

The Etana myth is very important when comparing it to Indo-European myths. India has Indra stealing Soma from the Asuras. Soma ("Semen:) is the immortalizing herb used to make the elixir poured into Agni, the fire altar god. The eagle had lost its feathers, which is why it couldn't fly out of the pit. Etana gave him feathers of fire by which to fly him to Heaven. Indra "gained the favor of Çayana (phoenix)" and, riding him like a horse, stole the herb. When flying away the Asura archer, Krishanu (very possibly early Krishna) shot at them. The eagle dodged the arrow but lost a feather that dropped onto our world to become the birth of Agni. Also, the myth of Loki and Thiazi in Iceland has correlations., Therefore, the huge influence of that myth upon Indo-Europeans is highly important as a root of wisdom cults with herbal elixirs. Notice how Soma in Sanskrit is "semen" but it Greek it's "body." The classical alchemy where water congeals into the primordial egg relates to this process of semen becoming a baby's body. This has infiltrated so many religions around the world that it deserves its own presentation. From the Orphic egg to Hiranyagarbha in India, to Pangu in China, to Buri in Iceland, and even Stone Boy in Plains sweat lodge myths. The latter reveals how old the oral tradition continued...from Ice/Stone Age origins.

[@ArrowBast]

Fanciful myths are allegorical but important as mnemonic aids in the days of poetic transmission of knowledge long before literacy became widespread.

[@jeffatwood9417]

@@ArrowBast not “fanciful” but rather all myths are allegorical. Yet, the allegory has many layers of application, which is what drives the oral tradition. Geology, history, medicine…all apply. For example; In acupuncture, the spleen and liver meridians twist around a few times as if they are fighting for dominance. Liver is wood, and Thunder, the 1st son of Heaven and Earth, lives there. Spleen is Rock, which is an Earth element. Thor’s fight with Hrungnir was heralded by Thjalfi (Aquarian thought or “wind that brings the storms”), who told the giant that Thor would attack from below so he should stand on his shield (a magical act in another myth). Lightning struck from above, of course, er science proved that lightning is drawn down by the earth. Being wood, the liver is the boat in which Thor fishes, again with a rock giant as the oarsman. This action is the same as “raising kundalini” as the serpent at the bottom of the ocean. Now, one might superficially say there’s o thing to these connections, yet in the Bagua changes, Rock takes the space where Thunder sat, as each stood beside their Earth mother. Yet, when rock moves, Thunder moved above him with wind moving above Thunder. Thunder replaced Fire, itself replacing Heaven’s seat at the top (South) because He fell below where Rock was, the king in his burial mound after Thunder punished him for incest with his Fire daughter. Indra pulled Dyaus from his seat by his Achilles heal…. Again, this might all seem superficial, but when we find over 60 tattoos on Ötzi that correspond to accupoints for illnesses he suffered, then we see that acupuncture did NOT begin in China! Ötzi was genetically tied to Mesopotamian farmer genes! He died at the beginning of the Yamnaya era (3200) and Huang Dí (Yellow emperor of Chinese Medicine) supposedly lived around 2600, at the end of the Yamnaya era. Tacitus clearly described the poetic social power in the Germans as historians, as Greek classical philosophers (“empowered” by literacy) criticized the poets as “hiding the truth in mysterious speech.” Yet, I have a book called “How philosophers saved myth” since they utilized the best of both worlds, like Plato’s cave myth, which directly describes the dwarf-minded people, afraid of their own shadows before Prometheus brought the gift of fire. Norse dwarfs were maggots living in the rocky corpse of Ymir.

[@ArrowBast]

@@jeffatwood9417 Actually most so called primitive tribes have piercings designed to minimize pain to be endured in hunting and fighting - though it looks 'savage' to some. So acupressure/acupuncture is as old as humankind .

[@jeffatwood9417]

@@ArrowBast maybe you don’t understand. These are points specifically for conditions we know he had. Not piercings…tattoos. And when the system of meridians is consistent with over 60 tattoos, we have to acknowledge a tradition existed. If it were only a couple, I could see the “coincidence” but over 60??? No coincidence.

[@ArrowBast]

@@jeffatwood9417 irrespective of what you say acupuncture or accupressure is not recorded in medical history of ancient europe ( like Greeks, Romans etc) and only was documented in china . So even if there was an isolated tradition in europe it neither survived nor influenced european medicine in any manner as to render it an irrelevant anecdote. And as far as isolated medical traditions go - such are common over a wide range of peoples across many lands.

[@samhamzad7492]

Great