Uncovering Legacy Of Chinese Clan Houses In Singapore | Remember Our House | CNA Documentary

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3 жыл бұрын

After receiving a mysterious envelope of cash from a clan association after his grandfather's death, documentary filmmaker Douglas Lan begins his quest to discover what Singapore Chinese clans are and what they were for.
Learning about the heritage of these centuries-old institutions, Douglas searches for the relevance of these ancient guilds through young members who are sustaining the legacy of their clans. Lynn Wong is a researcher on a mission to document and salvage the memories of clans in Singapore before they disappear. Jolie Yin was the youngest youth president in Singapore clan history and an active member of Chung Shan Association. And Richard Zheng is a new citizen with a young family, finding ways to give back and modernize the clan that has given him a community.
Gaining access to their clans and more, Douglas embarks on a journey to understand the purpose of clans today, their struggles, and how they are fighting to stay relevant in the midst of modernity and apathy.
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@jlai036
@jlai036 3 жыл бұрын
My respect to the lady who uses her own time to document this important Chinese heritage and history.
@HupSoonHeng
@HupSoonHeng 3 жыл бұрын
These Clans started on a same mission, connecting and helping one another. This spirit should pass on to next generation.
@ww3032
@ww3032 3 жыл бұрын
Ya. You can see how mutually supportive the different generations are towards each other in the clans. Quite heartening. Lots of Singaporeans have lost these values.
@bencaspar
@bencaspar 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno.... it all started because they were new people in a new town, coming together for security and future succes. In a way if the societies are dying off it means the people integrated and are leading succesful lives. But i get it, to see your ancestral connections fading is a little sad
@share_accidental
@share_accidental 8 ай бұрын
@@bencasparit’s a moral dilemma 😢
@oliviarodrigues2323
@oliviarodrigues2323 3 жыл бұрын
They survived SO many things so that we would have a good life. They were ALWAYS thinking about preparing for the future. Thank you SO much for sharing this beautiful cultural reality!
@sunchildtine
@sunchildtine 3 жыл бұрын
they left homeland at a very young age. life was so tough. much respect to them. we took them for granted.
@cia9142
@cia9142 3 жыл бұрын
Feel so sad watching this documentary. Thinking how our ancestors put in so much effort in these clans and struggled living in the past only for these clans to slowly vanish really saddens me. I'm so curious about my clan now and might make a visit, I just know that my grandparents were from Wenchang, Hainan, China. I am also glad to be able to speak in my dialect which is very rare, especially for people my age (I'm 21 this year).
@Kingofcathay
@Kingofcathay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Chinese. Welcome to China, I think the Chinese and Singaporean will have that mutual respect for each other's identity today. Just like UK and US. Singapore is a great country.
@ricchmus
@ricchmus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kingofcathay You welcome them but they are not very welcoming to mainland Chinese. I was in Singapore a few years ago and witnessed how some mainland Chinese were treated. I am ashamed of how these people behaved. They obviously forgot where their forefathers came from.
@Kingofcathay
@Kingofcathay 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricchmus Its not surprised. If I were in Singaporean shoes, I would do the same thing. Simply because it's a relatively small country and have a limited impact to affect the 'trends' of the world. So Singapore should not stick to one side and should always remain independent, so that they could continue to get advantage of other countries and continue to thrive.
@jondoeami
@jondoeami 3 жыл бұрын
Very rare indeed but that a great and comforting thing to hear! I speak Hainanese as well but not so fluent anymore as I don’t practise it as much anymore. It’s sad indeed that these clans are slowly disappearing.
@johnchua1087
@johnchua1087 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricchmus You think mainland China is Singaporean Chinese roots? Think again. The forefathers if you trace back to its roots originated from Africa ( and yes, that applies to mainland Chinese as well). And by the way if you are mainlander Chinese visiting in another country or any country in that aspect and if you respect the local culture and respect others then I am sure you will be treated respectfully as well. If you wanted to be treated like idiots then you probably behave like one to warrant the treatment. There are reasons why the kind of treatment you witnessed happened (not just in Singapore).I am sure it is not hard for you to figure out why. A hint; Maindland China has 1.4billion population, it is not surprising to see millions of blacksheep amongst them. Besides this, just how many mainlanders currently residing in SIngapore has adapted or made an effort to really adapted to the local cuilture? By all means, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-cultural society. Having ethnic Chinese as majority does not mean that they rule the day. I am a Singaporean of Chinese ethnicity , like most if not all Singaporean, we pledge to have equal opportunity for all regardless of race or religion and we welcome all migrants who are genuinely making contributions to Singapore's economy and willing to adapt to Singapore's society way of life. As far as visitors are concerned, the same rules applies as we would treat Singaporeans who flawn the rules.
@davidchung4691
@davidchung4691 3 жыл бұрын
It is sad to see many Clan Associations disappeared not only in Singapore but places where there are Chinese populations! I used to follow my father whenever he visited our Chong Shan Association 中山会館 in the 50's when he stood as President or Chairman of the Association. Fond memory lingers! Good luck to all those who works so hard to keep the heritage going!👍👍加油!
@prabunusantara
@prabunusantara 3 жыл бұрын
In my hometown Padang, Indonesia these Chinese clan associations are thriving, almost everyone in the Chinatown are member of the clan old to young. They are conducting various social, charity, cultural events every year. They are so proud of their collective identity.
@Naomi-fb1ej
@Naomi-fb1ej 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably different because in Singapore the Chinese are the majority. So people don't feel the need for organisations to preserve the culture or gather. My minority friends here feel more strongly about being involved in their traditional culture than the Chinese.
@fgfgfgfgf2919
@fgfgfgfgf2919 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-fb1ej there is unfor. none in Medan, Indonesia
@d.l.c7456
@d.l.c7456 Жыл бұрын
In the Philippines the proper term is Chinese Filipinos or the common word, Chinoys. They've assimilated fully with the Indigenous Austronesian Filipinos & the Mestizos. They're well represented in all aspects of Filipino everyday life, from businesses, politics, showbiz etc.
@findingneverland9744
@findingneverland9744 3 жыл бұрын
I like the concept of togetherness in chinese society specially when they are far away or in a foreign land and start a new life.
@gloomydog2
@gloomydog2 3 жыл бұрын
This documentary really brought me back to when grandparents would bring us along to the old fashioned clanhouse and then leave us to our devices while they sit around chatting with others in a dialect I couldn't understand. There are a few particularly active associations, like the "Lan" clan association that the filmmaker could qualify for based on his last name.
@toyoale
@toyoale 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm from Bolivia but living in Brazil for over 21 years, and trying to learn english nowadays. I'm so happy to have discovered this channel, CNA, so high level journalism and allows us from the other side of the world to know a little bit about Asia. I think we in Latin america are still so sticked in "american" (USA) values that we cannot get out of poverty. Thanks a lot for this amazing work!
@willengel2458
@willengel2458 3 жыл бұрын
what American value? the unspoken American value is work hard to get ahead, it's the same every where. the spoken value is freedom and democracy=regime change. do you like what transpired in Bolivia?
@p_roduct9211
@p_roduct9211 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Toyoale! Congratulations on your level of English, and it's wonderful to see such an inquiring minds. Curiosity to explore and expand your knowledge outside geographic borders and to learn about new cultures and people are a great way to find friends and give meaning to life. If you are interested in environmental innovations, business and technology topics... You can try Al Jazeera (more geopolitical topics, a bit too serious) or DW News (more similar to small stories like CNA on this channel).
@anchored555
@anchored555 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary! Kudos to Douglas and Lyn for helping to preserve this aspect of Chinese heritage and history in Singapore that is in danger of disappearing. It is definitely worth saving.
@FortegoLite
@FortegoLite 3 жыл бұрын
In Hawaii’s Chinatown, we still have a number of these 堂 or clans. Many continue to operate by hosting cultural events, teaching Chinese, and playing music.
@amyfong6457
@amyfong6457 3 жыл бұрын
I am hainanese. I attended a function organised by the Hainan Association in Sydney. I met up with many hainanese old and young and some of them are white Australian.
@aHopefulDream
@aHopefulDream 3 жыл бұрын
it's sad to see these things go; everything's dust in the wind right? But we also have the technology to document these things as best as we can so that future generations might learn its history. That's why documentaries like this is so important, thank you for making this!
@shopkedai
@shopkedai 3 жыл бұрын
I am lost of word for these clans survival in the next decade. Penang too has many clans and associations that uphold the Chinese tradition and cultural. Singapore government being rich in finance and human resources should be able to hold together these clans. In the past without these community there won't be a Singapore. The clans were great supporter of education and business development of their respective fellow members. I wish these youth the best and the passion to keep the clans going. Uncle Kai is amazing gentlemen so are the producer and crews of this video.
@JusaKiki
@JusaKiki 2 жыл бұрын
So heart touching to track records of our old generation, how they united, how they built organization and linked to work together,shared life and made history. They are examples of entrepreneurs.
@Puuuurrrr
@Puuuurrrr 3 жыл бұрын
They have these in Penang too! And the more notable clans have hugeeeee areas all to themselves it was rly cool to check out
@emmanfrancisco5598
@emmanfrancisco5598 3 жыл бұрын
I love this documentary and now I can truly understand why it is important for my chinsese ancestors the sense of belongingness and tracing roots.
@eddiensw
@eddiensw 3 жыл бұрын
this is soooo precious. Especially when they describe how members are supported during bereavement 45:35 thanks!
@swicheroo1
@swicheroo1 3 жыл бұрын
I did some of doctoral dissertation work on clan groups in the USA. They came out of surname associations. Later, they transformed into Benevolent Associations and Gang Affiliated Groups popularly known as Tongs.
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 3 жыл бұрын
A "Tong" means a "Hall".... maybe they changed when it begins to be multi-family names... Technically speaking, they are not gangs, than they are extended families... And everywhere in this world, it is the same. So do not let these terms fool you. Most people even in the US and in other communities in the UK, the people who lives in a city, are all related as well. Just that there is no formal registration. But because these are migrants into another foreign country, it has a record, that is all. In Europe... some areas do have this. They will say "Polish club", or "British club" etc.
@belikestephanie
@belikestephanie 2 жыл бұрын
When my grandpa was alive he belonged to clan association in Singapore and surprising the clan association still exists. Although my grandpa lived in Malaysia, he gave my dad our jiapu so I can trace back my family’s lineage to China
@Claudia-he6sj
@Claudia-he6sj 2 жыл бұрын
This was so heartwarming yet bittersweet to watch. Watching as these clans, along with old jobs such as cobbler and shoe making, slowly vanish is just saddening
@piedwagtailrameau
@piedwagtailrameau 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to listen to Cantonese in Singapore
@justinng4176
@justinng4176 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome documentary, my ancestor home is Kaiping, Guangdong where your late grandpa hailed from. I was fascinated when I came across there are so many clan associations & their premises existed in Sg. Indeed there re far more clan associations established in Sg than the rest of SE Asia where Chinese migrates settled. It is worth to keep these heritage.
@willengel2458
@willengel2458 3 жыл бұрын
there is a whole street or city block of Chinese clean houses behind Indian town in Penang, Malaysia.
@123Clean123
@123Clean123 3 жыл бұрын
As a total outsider, not Chinese or Singaporean, watching this, I think it's very obvious that clans established a sense of community to early Singaporean settlers and, if the youth allow it, may continue to do so in the future. In this generation, many are finding it hard to find their place in the world, often wandering aimlessly. Sometimes, direction can be found in the past, and the anchor can be found in tradition. Tradition not in the archaic rigid sense, but tradition as in a connection to a history.
@robertwong2218
@robertwong2218 3 жыл бұрын
The younger generation must or at least try to learn about this Chinese migration history from the past.
@clementihammock7572
@clementihammock7572 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandpa was from 安溪. When he passed away, I cleaned up his filthy flat. Till today, I wish I could have kept his Tools and Antique Radio. Two of his items still with me are Anxi Clan Pin and his Parker Pen.
@jamesmobach8879
@jamesmobach8879 3 жыл бұрын
In which Chinese province lies it? Guangdong?
@clementihammock7572
@clementihammock7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmobach8879 Fujian 福建
@jamesmobach8879
@jamesmobach8879 3 жыл бұрын
@@clementihammock7572 Ok, my sister-in-law is original from this province too.
@clementihammock7572
@clementihammock7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmobach8879 Most of the local AnKuey own hardware stores 五金,and once there was a bank ICB now subsidiary of UOB. And also many heavy construction machinery companies. ex. 白长春。
@damienho8455
@damienho8455 5 ай бұрын
@clementihammock7572 > filthy flat You should be kind as it reflects his mental state. Many older Southern Chinese men are like this having seen many stressors in life. Hoarding old junk clutter is common. The old trinkets (tools in your case) and old radio are not only tokens of a past life but I guess are like comfort treasures, filling a void of something missing inside. It's sad since this is all he's got. But even men with more substantial trinkets it is all destined to pass away. It's better not to hold onto material things.
@alexandral8913
@alexandral8913 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this documentary. It's beautiful - as a young Singaporean, I believe that more of us should keep in touch with our roots and try not to get too swept up in Westernisation and technology. Huge respect to the people trying to preserve our heritage.
@Sammy6074
@Sammy6074 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised this isn't something the Singaporean government is interested in documenting and showcasing as part of Singapore's history. (maybe the government needs to know about the closure of clan houses- and with clan house consent display clan documents and histories to the public)
@thenecessaryexile5685
@thenecessaryexile5685 3 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful journey and I am so happy for you! This is inspirational for ALL cultures to create similar social hubs of legacy and light. Thank you so much for sharing!❤💋📣
@celestialstar124
@celestialstar124 3 жыл бұрын
I love such topic. Clan usually not too open to the public so i enjoy able to learn more about them
@etloo1971
@etloo1971 3 жыл бұрын
The Speak Mandarin Campaign launched in 1979 put this clan association culture in decline. The clan association are usually belonged to specific dialect group.
@jianpingwang6916
@jianpingwang6916 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, the emphasis on “Singaporean national identity” probably contributed even greater to their decline. One integral part of these organizations’ activities is maintaining connections with the motherland, China, which often means regular interactions with organizations within China, Overseas Chinese Office 侨办, PRC embassy/consulates. The younger generation seems reluctant to embrace their these connections, probably due to so-called “political correctness”.
@clementihammock7572
@clementihammock7572 3 жыл бұрын
The smaller Hokkien clan such as mine, Anxi, will somehow one day absorb into the Main Hokkien Clan. I reckon it is partly due to financial and socio-political influence they have.
@Naomi-fb1ej
@Naomi-fb1ej 3 жыл бұрын
@@jianpingwang6916 I mean, China being closed off to the world for many decades probably didn't help. But many even from my grandparents' generation (who are only 1-2 generations away from hometowns) do not really relate to the current political entity that is the PRC, and probably would not be comfortable interacting with the embassy, etc. You must realise their ancestors left China in the Qing dynasty. Informal/Grassroots associations are okay.
@drjamesallen6012
@drjamesallen6012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-fb1ej I reckon the identity of oneself shouldn’t be confined to the era of when our ancestors have left China. It’s always the same place and we’re the same group of people regardless of which party is in governance. We still retain the connection with relatives back in Canton, 3rd generation down the line. My grandpa couldn’t have survived in a foreign land when he first came to the UK in 1940 without generosity of his “twong heong” (kins). Let’s keep these precious bonds that unite us, the decedents of Yellow Emperor, wherever we are born, or living in, and pass it down to the future gens to come. We owe it to our forefathers.
@p_roduct9211
@p_roduct9211 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raymond_Lee888 What was the objective of the Speak Mandarin Campaign? A form of social integration, or were there some noble economic goals (bi-lingualism = better perceived job offers?). Not arguing if either were true, but trying to understand the mindset of the government's ideals at that time.
@franklinnanai2745
@franklinnanai2745 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, I hope Clan houses continue because it is a wonderful concept.
@andromeda582
@andromeda582 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to come across this documentary. I've been noticing all the clan associations among the shophouses in Chinatown and feeling really curious about them!
@hafizkhan6015
@hafizkhan6015 3 жыл бұрын
I really love this document show. It comes from true love. Keep it up...
@KL-jr5ip
@KL-jr5ip 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting stories that keeping the connection between members from the same clan (village or surname) and keep the dialect alive. Even us in Hong Kong, clan groups are in decline and dialects like Hokkien or Teochow are almost non-existant and we are next door to China, many have not even been back to their family's village. Thank you for those elderly whom keep the group alive, hard work but I am sure later generations would remember. K
@ahkl77
@ahkl77 3 жыл бұрын
Well done again CNA Insider 👏 Doing our heritage proud 👍
@colleenm9188
@colleenm9188 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for this video.
@Theoby36183
@Theoby36183 3 жыл бұрын
Well done CNA going into the crosshairs and that's some deep work have to say it , Even though I'm not Chinese but love to explore and learn about new cultures . Best 48 minutes of niche stuff
@justint9005
@justint9005 3 жыл бұрын
It is a rather interesting video abt the Chinese Clan Houses. I realised that most of the clans of the earlier Chinese settlers during the 17th, 18th and early to mid 19th centuries existed in the form of temples for example the Cheng Hoon Teng Temple in Malacca, the oldest Chinese temple in this region.
@bernardgoh1941
@bernardgoh1941 3 жыл бұрын
nice narrative! love it so much.... great story!
@j00ne
@j00ne 3 жыл бұрын
So glad that Tong Heng is going to be putting a piece of my Toishan history in their menu!
@kenny6921
@kenny6921 3 жыл бұрын
thank u for this documentary man!
@WChocoleta
@WChocoleta 10 ай бұрын
Respect from China for those who left my country decades ago in a quest for a new life in a another part of the world while preserving their cultural heritage, and for those of you who care to document this part of history before it perishes.
@tomasalanday8640
@tomasalanday8640 3 жыл бұрын
I’m always wondering about my family clan in the Philippines ? Our last name is 洪 planning to visit Fujian last year but canceled due to CVID . Omg the music remind when I was growing up in the Philippines, my Chinese dad will always me to Chinese opera.
@satoshiyoshida7530
@satoshiyoshida7530 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda same, mine is from Taiwan
@grendelss74
@grendelss74 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm from the Philippines and my last name is 洪 as well. You can try contacting the 洪 family clan association here - the Philippine Lioc Kui Foundation, Inc. (菲律賓六桂堂宗親總會). It's actually a grand family association of six family clans and 洪 is one of them. Though I believe there are separate chapters for the 洪 family clan that are specific to a town or borough (my dad belongs to the 菲華英林洪氏家族總會 from Yinglin borough) but the Lioc Kui Foundation is a good starting point to connect with your roots. Good luck! (^_^)
@Naomi-fb1ej
@Naomi-fb1ej 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm 洪 as well but Singaporean Chinese, to my knowledge the 洪 clan actually has a record of its family tree of those who first left Fujian and went to SEA. Someone already mentioned the Philippine family clan association, but your ancestors may also be in the Singaporean records.
@abramswee
@abramswee 10 ай бұрын
incredible history! Thanks for making this video for us. It is really impressive to know how our forefathers struggled so hard in their migration to Singapore during the period where Chinese diaspora was the highest. Being a next gen migrant myself from Singapore to Australia, I understand the trials in adapting to a different culture and country. Truly, we all need to remember the spirits of our ancestors especially their tenacity to seek better lives for their families and future generations.
@MrAeroplane2
@MrAeroplane2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 💪🏼👍🏼
@raenah7222
@raenah7222 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, CNA
@eileenstacie
@eileenstacie 3 жыл бұрын
My ah gong used to be part of the 永春clan. When he passed, our participation with the clan also faded with him. I think actually our parents generation didn't really adovcate for it. I remember I used to play at the clan during CNY. Then when I asked about it when my ah gong passed, my mum herself also don't know
@jianxiongRaven
@jianxiongRaven 3 жыл бұрын
omg , really appreciate this video. I'm also a singpaorean chinese and it also makes me wonder
@waldfee2283
@waldfee2283 3 жыл бұрын
So touched!
@roxasblackheartlessxiv6784
@roxasblackheartlessxiv6784 3 жыл бұрын
My family name is Tan. Malaysia, Sarawak. I'd like to support the cause of keeping that culture alive. Do they have a website?
@williamc9578
@williamc9578 3 жыл бұрын
Good documentary. Kudos to the documentarians.
@123arcadia
@123arcadia 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@yongwkee
@yongwkee 3 жыл бұрын
3:32 founded in 1946 instead of 1955, ..... This is a very good Chinese Clan documentary. Tq
@rosesprog1722
@rosesprog1722 3 жыл бұрын
These houses were created to help new immigrants? Nice, it always touches me when I see people being nice to each other, today's world feels so cold sometimes. A beautiful film, thank you.
@shawnk2704
@shawnk2704 3 жыл бұрын
Much respect. Thanks.
@simyorksoo5692
@simyorksoo5692 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo and my Salute!
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 3 жыл бұрын
How come this young gentleman has not been back to his grandfather's hometown to visit ? He should ask this older clan member... where his grandfather's hometown is, and go for a visit... There are a lot of family-tree books which you can write down, and put down your names. To know your roots is so important. I am also from HK, and in one of those villages. People used to be from HK, or a little bit further up in Boan... or Shenzen areas.
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 3 жыл бұрын
To progress your clan and association, you should actually make a website, or write down histories... and to prosper and to document this. Many of the chinese overseas, who went as "merchants" to work abroad... in those days... were common. My grandfather came to the UK to work. Then so did my dad. But for us, we keep going back to our hometown in HK for at least a good few years all of the time to keep in contact. I think it would be nice if to progress these clan stories.. and then to also build up connections or family tree, so if your descendents want to search, then they can search as a geneology tree.
@constantinechou
@constantinechou 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary. Hope the clans in Singapore will last forever. There is no such thing in Australia - sad...
@damienho8455
@damienho8455 5 ай бұрын
Partly true. Australia is a cultural blackhole and everything here gets White-washed into a monocultural Ozzification, plus racism here was (and sometimes still is) really serious. Though millennials and younger won't know much, there were once similar Chinese setups in Melbourne Chinatown (the Chinese museum is quite impressive) but they were also underground societies, again literally battling racist violence from Whites/Anglos. But some of these were also where secret societies/triads/freemasons met (some triads are more innocent - political factions) and where banking and trades happened, inc. various underworld activities. We also have small and old associations in the foot of Surry Hills in Sydney once a Chinese slum or shanty town. Most of these places now are practically defunct, having either been converted to brothels, fancy gentrified residential houses, of hipster cafes. The most significant and living memories however will surprise you as they're not written by White-Australian historians (actively committing Chinese history) but contained in places like the Chinese Presbyterian Church and Central Baptist Church where many of the Chinese gathered, obviously worshipping God and Christ. Inside there are libraries, thousands of members, and a few dedicated historians who will have various archival records, photos, names, etc... I believe Singapore also has this transition/dichotomy, since many things can unite people: family, ethnicity, region, nation, empire, belief/religion/God. "Clan associations" reflect such shifts. Ideally, covering the full spectrum, but people argue, you know?
@typhoidpaddy1244
@typhoidpaddy1244 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact..... Clan is the Irish word for family .
@damienho8455
@damienho8455 5 ай бұрын
Great fact. I wonder if Irish clan associations also gather by region, or form abstractly (family, ethnicity, nationality, ideology, religion), whether in Ireland proper or Irish who are overseas. FYI, Chinese clan associations originally were strictly and literally for "clan" names only, men exclusively, for the purposes of clan lineage, rank in society, procreative rules, genetic purity, and clan glory. In China, in one 'village' (county) alone there may be several clan associations or sub-clan associations under one family/house name, reflecting clan expansion and the community sprawling apart geographically. ... This is probably the mindset of the Singaporeans... Often a county has hundreds of "villages" each with one or more clan association or hall, like an informal club house or community hall. But once overseas unless there's enough people in the foreign land I guess Chinese group together by region, focusing less on family names, perhaps also considered as something done 'back home' while their migration/stay in Singapore etc may not have been intentionally long-term or coordinated properly as a 'clan migration'.
@DavidHoughton17
@DavidHoughton17 3 жыл бұрын
What an interesting documentary from the CNA team. I do have some Chinese heritage via Hong Kong of Hainanese background where my grandparents migrated to S'pore. I really often wondered about their stories and what they heard from their grandparents. But yeah I loved hearing Cantonese spoken on this documentary. Seeing Keong Saik road has fond memories when Tong Ah eating house was at the corner & jamming at Snakeweed studios which has long moved location LOL I noticed portraits of Sun Yat sen in these Clans houses whilst I recognise he truly was a great leader during his time, I am curious if there was some other meaning or just simply a character revered greatly?
@anchored555
@anchored555 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sun Yat Sen came from Zhongshan. Zhongshan was originally called Xiangshan, but was renamed Zhongshan in his honour. So it makes sense for the Zhongshan Association to have a big portrait of him.
@DavidHoughton17
@DavidHoughton17 3 жыл бұрын
@@anchored555 That makes sense :-)
@damienho8455
@damienho8455 5 ай бұрын
@@anchored555 @DavidHoughton17 Correct. Zhongshan (中山) is an honorary name after Sūn Zhōngshān (孫中山) alias of Sun Yat Sen. Originally, Hoengshan (香山), "Fragrant Mountain", which is how "Hong Kong" got it's name as the Fragrant Harbour. i.e. 中山 = 香山 => 香港. To name the place and association after a major geographic landmark speaks of region-wide devotion to Modernism, Nationalism, the Modern Republic of China, anti-imperialism (specifically anti-Qing) sentiments, and possible lingering anti-Taiping Revolution sentiments. Also it was pro-Japanese and pro-Western since Sun Yat Sen was part Japanese with very Japanese modernist ideas yet *born in China* and was inspired by the economy in places like Hawaii. Mountains also have religious significance, in ceremonial rituals of high and low, making offerings to Heaven and Earth. The cult of SYS is both a new religion and ideology. Also, Sun (孫) iirc is an ancient clan name from a prince or duke of Zhou Dynasty (founding dynasty in China), he then represents hearkening back to the very earliest founding dynasties following collapse/failure/profligacy of Qing Dynasty as foreign invaders/usurpers from the North. SYS was the people's modern emperor or founding father, espousing modern (Western/European) politics and economics as solutions to mass poverty, regional war lords, injustice, social discord, etc. Idolising SYS is a national mourning of sorts and revolutionary turning point, like Moses to Ancient Israel or Napoleon to the French.
@oliversparks1459
@oliversparks1459 3 жыл бұрын
This was Absolutely Fascinating Where can i find More
@fuhsulu5651
@fuhsulu5651 4 күн бұрын
Great Job! Bravo!
@marcuslove5431
@marcuslove5431 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@asiaexpat62
@asiaexpat62 3 жыл бұрын
The Clan Houses offered needed services for those that just moved to a new country and could not speak or read the local language. The immigrants of that era needed the familiarity of the Chineses community, but today in most countries Chinese immigrants assimilate rapidly and the clan structure is not as important. The older ones in my family still hold to the old ways but the youth not so much.
@GeeWhizzzz
@GeeWhizzzz 2 жыл бұрын
Yes at the end of the day ...... it is sill history. From that view point there should be a permanent museum, exhibition, gallery setup dedicated to this. To somehow help in a small way to offset, pre-empt future inoperability, decline of sorts.
@rolandoruiz7659
@rolandoruiz7659 3 жыл бұрын
These documents if preserved can be useful for those whose family might want to keep a record as part of their family history.
@bpk8320
@bpk8320 3 жыл бұрын
👍 good job guys 大马
@onlinevoice195
@onlinevoice195 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps these remaining clans should modernise using more technological approaches to attract younger members. I am sure those who love history, geography, or researching would be interested in continuing. Schools could also introduce these clans as part of the curriculum just like in NZ, where students and new PRs/citizens need to attend lessons on NZ past, especially the Treaty of Waitangi.
@damienho8455
@damienho8455 5 ай бұрын
The colonising mentality and glorification of British history is quite different to most other ethnicities/nationalities. The Chinese clan view is somewhat comparable to the regional Maori and Aboriginal clan differences, except perhaps that major Chinese clans with associations are often former imperial dynasties, rulers of both China, the Asian Continent, and extending into much of South East Asia and perhaps to the Pacific Islands. In other words, while White settlers (or any non natives) in NZ were poor or unhappy in Britain and grateful for a new home and opportunity in NZ, the Chinese experience generally speaking is not so interested/content/well-assimilated living outside of China. The focus for overseas Chinese almost always is on 'Chinese History' (Chinese Imperial history etc) and or simultaneously Taoist or Biblical truths alongside. Imagine House of Windsor, Hanover, Habsburg, Heineken, Normandy, Romanov, etc, living in enemy territory, in say Africa or India under foreign rule as refugees/derelict minorities... The status quo would not teach or promote this... if that makes sense.
@italyzone6193
@italyzone6193 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome in Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹 ❤️💙💚💛❤️💙💚💛❤️💙💚💛
@jamesyue1348
@jamesyue1348 3 жыл бұрын
yeah ang mo number 1 huat ah!
@Itspavi98
@Itspavi98 3 жыл бұрын
Now there’s clan hotel, that has taken an inspiration from clan association
@hninzilwin3288
@hninzilwin3288 3 жыл бұрын
There were Chinese clans in Myanmar too in the 50s before the military took over. They donate money so new Chinese immigrants get a good start.
@jycy
@jycy 3 жыл бұрын
Within four seas all are brethren; 四海一家
@BadMrFrosty999
@BadMrFrosty999 3 жыл бұрын
The sign already says closed why does he keep on trying to open the doors?!
@jamesyue1348
@jamesyue1348 3 жыл бұрын
ya loh ya loh he failed his England...
@clefvc
@clefvc 3 жыл бұрын
good jobs
@moledong9390
@moledong9390 3 жыл бұрын
In Canada (vancouver), They are called Tongs. Which is basically a derivative of the 14k (HK gang : China Association) road clan group in China. So there is plus and negatives of these groups.
@raymondcheung409
@raymondcheung409 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works man. Tong are a last name. They just group together like the wong, chen ect. Gang influences are from the 70s 80s. It's pretty chill now
@gemgal68
@gemgal68 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymondcheung409 My guess the "Tong" the commenter meant is "堂" in Cantonese pronunciation. As you might have already known, "堂" is commonly used in the name of bona fide clan groups & also groups that labelled themselves "clan groups" but went off tangent & carried out mafia or secret society activities... So yeah, that's my guess...
@gemgal68
@gemgal68 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raymond_Lee888 Hi. My guess is the "Tong" might be "堂" in Cantonese pronunciation. (considering many early Chinese settlers in the North Americas being from Canton area). Have seen both "會館/会馆" and "堂" being used as clan group house names... In my country Singapore "会馆" is the common term used, while other countries or regions (example Philippines) do use "堂" too.
@moledong9390
@moledong9390 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymondcheung409 Google it... Bruce lee would agree with me. He had to fight one to get permission to teach.
@86jasond
@86jasond 2 жыл бұрын
@@raymondcheung409 tong means lodge or hall. Not a last name
@tonykwok9763
@tonykwok9763 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍🙏.....MORE....KAMPONGS OF SINGAPORE 😭😭😭😭😭MY KG WAS ALSO POTONG PASIR NEAR FISHING PONDS....MEYAPPA CHETTIAR ROAD..😭😭😭😭😭
@barjiaoshan4972
@barjiaoshan4972 3 жыл бұрын
App的主意非常好,中國人的歷史要這樣定位,華人世界才能完整的聯繫上,這樣最好,華人可以決定要不要被其他國家唾棄的強權
@mobeyond
@mobeyond 3 жыл бұрын
堂会,会馆 其实就是异乡的"老乡会" ……
@chinleonglee6312
@chinleonglee6312 3 жыл бұрын
I love cantonese pop music and cantonese cuisine
@MrBoliao98
@MrBoliao98 3 жыл бұрын
Like if ever these clan association close, I hope NLB goes round collecting, consolidating these old records. Like 90 year old records, jeez. Clans die, it's life. How many have dissipated, those that survive, have a property that works like a club house. Honestly, people have their own CCA, their own gangs and clique, this clans work for a different time for a different need, for a different world. Ask any kid on the streets whether they even know which village they from.
@keytiax1128
@keytiax1128 3 жыл бұрын
always remember to respect your Chinese roots
@EarlKuOnly
@EarlKuOnly 3 жыл бұрын
did knew there is that much of cantonese speakers in singapore...
@hanzelling
@hanzelling 3 жыл бұрын
where can more than 5/8pax
@proudasiangirl576
@proudasiangirl576 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this subject to light. My parents and my husband's parents grew up with these clans in San Francisco. I really don't know too much about them. I think it's awesome that Chinese people have these and sad to see them disappearing. These Associations offer so much value to get to know people, to grow up and to grow old with them. They become your life long friends and distant family members.
@kingcolz
@kingcolz 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays they also join clan.. gaming clans
@farefacts3890
@farefacts3890 9 ай бұрын
Goooddd
@johnu2192
@johnu2192 3 жыл бұрын
This is a problem everywhere in multi-ethnic/immigrant societies for smaller groups e.g. I am a quarter Slovenian and there is a Slovenian church (now shared w/ other nationalities) and a Slovenian Hall in San Francisco BUT hardly any Slovenians left (many of the older generation got "health conscious" before passing and wouldn't even make the same traditional food as it was deemed "unhealthy"!). Unless you live someplace like Joliet IL or you are Donald Trump and happen to meet a supermodel from Slovenia :), the chances of marrying another person of Slovenian descent is pretty low in the USA!
@jrukawa11
@jrukawa11 3 жыл бұрын
Pre-covid19 filming?
@ww3032
@ww3032 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like during covid. People wearing masks in the video.
@jrukawa11
@jrukawa11 3 жыл бұрын
@@ww3032 cool. Phase 2 5pax rule. Phase 3 8pax rule...
@thomasng1968
@thomasng1968 3 жыл бұрын
They are all connected with 天地会 (Hongmen) Tiandihui If i am not wrong.
@HupSoonHeng
@HupSoonHeng 3 жыл бұрын
天地会 洪门 反清复明 is driven by politics. clans are driven by people of same dialects /surname & hometown.
@eileenstacie
@eileenstacie 3 жыл бұрын
Wa. 天地會all the way to 明朝leh. I think my ancestors are still 賤民 haha. Singapore's clans probably functioned as a social support for immigrants when they first started. Probably might not have any association with 天地会...
@86jasond
@86jasond 2 жыл бұрын
天地会 existed briefly in Temasek, they changed their name to 白虎堂 and recruited members from 会馆. The 1920-50s gangs were very ethnic centric. They mostly only accepted members from same dialect or kampung
@GeeWhizzzz
@GeeWhizzzz 2 жыл бұрын
Mandarin is a way to entice new interactions / new comers to settle. Lay the red carpet, make Chinese locals learn Mandarin and make it an examinable subject. Your either coped with it, choked on it or found an escape. The other official languages were also exam subjects to mandate "being in touch with ones roots". The speak Mandarin campaign in the 80's was incessant and as visible and audible as can be. English programming on radio and TV would be interrupted by such campaign ads. Imagine that. No other official languages were pushed the same maniacal way. Posters and signage all over the place. It was nuts. Mandarin in > Dialects out. Other incoming nationalities were able & willing to speak English/Singlish At the present day some employment advertisements require candidates to be bilingual (code for must speak Mandarin). While others state it outright.
@koichiharuta5807
@koichiharuta5807 2 жыл бұрын
なんか良いなあ 出身地で固まるのは、日本の「県人会」みたいなのも似ているな
@vivov-iy1jl
@vivov-iy1jl 3 жыл бұрын
Ok ធ្លាប់បំរើជាតិនៅ ប្រទេសនោះដែរ ប៊ូលីសមហាផ្ទៃ
@tonykwok9763
@tonykwok9763 2 жыл бұрын
TO SINGAPORE, WITH LOVE.....😭😭😭😭😭HOPE FUTURE CLANS AND ASSOCIATIONS WILL MOVE TO HDB FLATS ALL OVER SINGAPORE....TO BEFRIEND US.....HDB PIGEONS😭😭😭😭😭
@HONG38
@HONG38 3 жыл бұрын
i dont even know what clan association am i in. haha
@onlinevoice195
@onlinevoice195 3 жыл бұрын
Not true that the pastries were not in Singapore. They were available during each autumn festival in Singapore. The last time I ate them in Singapore was about 10 years ago. I stopped buying them as they were too sweet. I believe they are still available in Singapore.
@xtoxicurex
@xtoxicurex 11 ай бұрын
Tell me there’s more so interesting
@hejiahan
@hejiahan 3 жыл бұрын
Aint that pastries just a moon cake. A Ham and Nut Mooncakes 五仁月餅.
@thunderassclap
@thunderassclap Жыл бұрын
Very long video for no reason, nobody joins Chinese clan houses and association because of how badly managed their websites are. There's practically no way to apply for membership online unless you head down to the place yourself, even then, good luck communicating with them due to generation gap.
@tdjbjdt0076
@tdjbjdt0076 Жыл бұрын
How about the native people of Singapore (Malay) History and heritage stop double standard please
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