Uncovering the Truth about God's Existence (This Agnostic Was Suprised)

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[@Hebiscus998]

This dude is so intelligent. May his intellect lead him to the truth and may Allah allow him to choose it ♥️

[@user-lq3tv4nd8w]

@@fedesetrtatio1 I see you are following jews to disapprove Islam which is not really a great point to build of

[@lisa_moscow8833]

​@@fedesetrtatio1 there is a book from Allah. You can read it and get your answers. 👍

[@deadevil08]

​@@fedesetrtatio1 huh what nonsense

[@EffieComfort]

Nothing more attractive than humble intelligent men secure in their beliefs.

[@XD-ih3pz]

​@@fedesetrtatio1 heres the thing, with that argument Paganism was the main religion in pre islamic arabia. If muhammad ﷺ were encouraging paganism, why did they stop people from worshipping idols?

[@XD-ih3pz]

@@fedesetrtatio1 references?

[@XD-ih3pz]

@@fedesetrtatio1 paganism is synonymous with polytheism. So your whole argument is broken.

[@Younickboy5]

This man is great and so elegant in his speech. Love the broo Abbas way of giving Dawah.❤❤❤

[@TheWatchmanWebsite]

God's EXISTENCE? Where can any written record of Allah’s existence before 610 be found? There is no written historical record or oral tradition of the existence of Allah before 610 except as Hubal (He who is Baal) worshipped by Muhammad’s father, Abdullah, as Allah of the Kaaba. Abdullah meant "slave of Hubal". Baal is a mutation or manifestation of Satan. Hubal, imported from the Moabites in Syria, was the god of the Qureshi (Muhammad’s tribe) and the moon god of the Kaaba BEFORE other idols became worshipped there. But remarkably, in the 7th century, Muhammad destroyed all the pagan idols of the Kaaba and reinvented Hubal as the God of Israel (thanks to a mysterious angel which never at any point introduced itself to Muhammad as the Angel Gabriel of the Bible). Do Muslims know they're worshiping Baal? No! To be fair to beloved Muslims, they innocently think they are worshipping the creator named Allah. Such is the deception of Islam. Muhammad sanitized, normalized and moralized Hubal’s pagan Kaaba and made it the biggest spectacle of stone idolatry and abomination the world has ever witnessed through NAME-DROPPING when QS 2:127 and QS 22:26-27 claimed the names of Abraham and Ishmael as having built the Kaaba. It is a big, big lie! From the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms there is no evidence whatsoever of these names ever participating in building the Kaaba of Allah. Hubal has really never left the Kaaba. Hubal's idolatrous ritual of kissing the Black stone (as practiced by the pre-Islamic pagans before Muhammad) still carries on today-still under the SAME god, Hubal, and still by the same name used by Muhammad’s father: Allah! It's the greatest deception hiding in plain sight of beloved Muslims-wonderful people created by the God of Israel. Allah is Hubal and Hubal is Baal and Baal is just one of the ways Satan manifests himself. Allah is disguised as the God of light and righteousness with his "righteous deeds" (5 pillars of Islam). Go back to your God; the true God of Israel whose special, eternal and covenant name (which he revealed to mankind through Moses in the Torah) is "the God of Abraham, Isaac and and the God of Jacob" (Exodus 3:15). None of Allah’s 99 names bear this special name of YOUR TRUE CREATOR. 1.Islam and the moon god of Babylon kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4ucdaaVps9ngas

[@Tarz2155]

@@TheWatchmanWebsite 😂😂 Allah is an arabic name for God plain and simple.

[@TheWatchmanWebsite]

@@Tarz2155 One is always amazed by Muslims who uncritically believe that just because Arab Christians worship "Allah" and Arameic Christian call him "Alaha", then this is the same Allah of the Kaaba and hajr e aswad (Black Stone). No. Allah is a GENERIC name to these groups but the IDENTITY of the Gods is different. They are two different Gods-yet they can only be one true God. Indeed Jesus would have used the Arameic "Alaha" which shares a similar linguistic root to the Arabic "Allah" but it ALSO does apply to the Hebrew "Elohim". Jesus prayed "Abba, Father". There is no word like 'Allah-Abba' or 'Allah-father'" in Islam. Jesus was praying to the true God of the Torah and Gospel who spiritually is our FATHER (Deuteronomy 32:6, Isaiah 63:16, 64:8, Jeremiah 31:9) Remember, Allah of the Qur’an, in no way, shape or form (spiritually, literally or metaphorically) is he FATHER to anyone (QS 6:100). When Arabic-speaking Christians use the word Allah, it is usually used in combination with the word al-Ab. Allah al-Ab means “God the Father,” and this usage is one way Arab Christians distinguish themselves from Muslims and their moon and star god of the idolatrous Black Stone and Kaaba. Therefore Allah of the Qur’an is NOT the Allah of the Arab Christians or Alaha of Arameic Christians, although the Allah of the Arab Christians IS the Alaha of the Arameic Christians because they share the same IDENTITY.

[@rayane_151]

@@TheWatchmanWebsite Abdullah litterally means "slave of Allah", Arabs believed in Allah but they associated partners with him. Also Allah, in the arabic language, refers to the one only diety worthy of worship, creator of everything. I invite you to dig deeper in this historical and linguistical subject my brother.

[@Tarz2155]

@@fedesetrtatio1 yeah OK judging from the way you responded it’s very clear you have an agenda. You’re not being sincere. That’s the craziest wait to come on to a subject matter. And it’s evident that you don’t know the basics of Islam or the Arabic language hell you don’t need to know the Arabic language is basic tenets of a slim if Allied some pagan gods a lot by definition moons the only God and Yahweh isn’t the name of God it’s a title to refer to God because they didn’t want to say his name they considered it blasphemy to utter his name.

[@kamaraalya7607]

I love civil discussions like this. Wish humanity could do more of this ❤

[@leannedamer8973]

I really like the way this conversation is going. No confrontation just truth.

[@Boabed]

It's refreshing to see someone this open minded. May Allah guide him

[@qaiz81]

Ameen

[@shandanabibi9696]

@@fedesetrtatio1 and let me know if you want to discuss the topic in details. I can give u 100 of reasons why Quran is the word of God ( Allah ). And look for the word used for God in Hebrew and Aramaic and it will resonate with Allah.

[@yusufbey1587]

@@fedesetrtatio1 lol oh please you rejected your own king your own messiah and you paid a price for it that ain’t the true religion should have accepted the Christ when he came to y’all

[@majmage]

The mistake of this argument is there are only two possibilities: _either (A) everything or (B) not everything has a cause._ * if A, then an uncaused god is impossible * if B, then the argument has no reason for saying an uncaused god is 'logically necessary', because you'd be admitting not all things need causes (so any given thing that we don't know the cause, like our universe for example, might itself be uncaused; and the universe isn't a god). Most theists choose B for obvious reasons, but that leaves them exactly where they start: with zero evidence, and zero logical reason to believe a god exists. So they need to start from scratch by providing some actual evidence of a god.

[@ocertan]

I thought a lot about predestiny and free will. I for myself came to the conclusion that by creating Adam, Allah subhana wa ta ala already made him in a way that would have the domino effect that Allah would foresee perfectly and know the end of. We are acting with absolute free will. But by designing us human in a specific way Allah knew what will happen to every single being…

[@rezakhan1086]

@@fedesetrtatio1 Arab Christians and Jews also use the name Allah for God, so ur wrong.

[@Anarchyz999]

Yes.. Allah has knowledge of future. He knows i will go to hell or heaven before He create universe.. If i go to hell, its not because in Luh Mahfuz, already written that I'll end up in hell. But my choice in this world make me..

[@OLDMAN_KON]

I am a Muslim, but what you was explaining made me appreciate my Rabb even more, your brains is a machine my brother... Allah must give you Jannat.

[@Mel_x]

Mashaallah, his was of speaking is the most elegant and gentle ❤

[@odeebob7826]

Mashallah brother you have intellectual depth and insight,,, May Allah open his eyes and remove the locks from his heart

[@TheHeartcore1]

amazing conversation !

[@izkira132]

a friend always doin good for his/her friends at that momment he really become one of true friend thats one of big hidayah from Allah Subhanahuwata'ala for everyone whos using their brain but the result still back to themself, open their heart for asking forgivns or stay be arrogant as a sinner

[@moabass9425]

mashallah a very good conversation, alot of respect to the gent for listening with such patience and an open mind.

[@bayramtasdogen7329]

MashaAllah. May Allah lead him to the right path and honor him with Islam. And may He reward these brothers for their efforts. ❤

[@interestofalkebulan258]

My brother is intelligent I pray for you as I'm watching my eyes full of tears 😢 you accept Islam

[@braveheart360]

ONE WORD; Spectacular!

[@naeembanday6595]

Hi brother Watching your conversation about Qadar and pre destination. Would you mind watching Zakir Naik’s video on this and also dr Israr’s video as well. I feel it would be beneficial in your discourses. JizzakAllah Your brother in Islam Naeem BANDAY

[@triglynx]

May Allah bless the brothers especially the tireless friend who has been doing da'wah for 20yrs. That is such a friend to have.

[@eisamahmood5608]

Can we not say that free will exists but Allah knows what a person will do? Just because Allah knows the outcome doesn’t mean the choice doesn’t exist? I feel like that’s a suitable explanation, in my own opinion perhaps I’m wrong but makes sense to me

[@yassinzakar]

What if Allah knows all the outcomes of all possibilities and it isn't just one possibility but we (creatures with free will) are doing choices (certain choices) but it is the will of Allah for how things will turn out to be even when we are making a certain choice. Believing in only 1 predictable choice by humans can be debated to not be a choice when it is already known.

[@LinggarMaretvaCendani]

​@Gumbo How do you define "pre-destined"?

[@eisamahmood5608]

@Gumbo Yeah exactly

[@gxqx797]

@Gumbo-ti8jl 'a person will earn 500k a year' but surely their must have been points in time before the person earned this much money where they would have made decisions based on free will that directly or indirectly impacted that particular salary. I think our view is very limited ... why can't we just understand Allah knows all things but does not necessarily force a decision or action upon anyone; unless he wills to

[@gxqx797]

@Gumbo-ti8jl yeah we aren't saying 'absolute free will' but free will within the confined choices we have. for example; absolute free will would be me attempting to fly. but I cant; because of inherently restraints upon me. that doesn't negate the free will i do have within the boundaries though. get me?

[@oldmansinginlove3808]

Fortunately, he did it wth a very nice way... thats comforting

[@braveheart360]

Allah SWT possesses ultimate knowledge, but He refrains from intervening in our choices, which are determined by the concepts of predestination and free will.

[@whome4851]

Allah knows the chooses you will make but, he will give you options to choose from.

[@hajiahmed8356]

Asc brothers. Keep doing what are doing guys❤.

[@adamsyaseen2334]

As Salaam Mu Alykoem brother 🤲 Mashaa Allah 🤲 may Allah guide and open his heart to Islam 🤲 very good explanation of the Creator 🤲 to His creation 🤲 Jazakallah ghair 🤲 you brother from South Africa 🙏 much love and appreciation 🤲

[@rago6716]

I think it is good to talk about the linguistic miracle of the Quran but also when you talk with a non-Arab person use other miracles of the Quran would be much more convincing

[@EgyptianMau]

God knows the past and the future and the how and the why in its all variables and how it would be if they were to intersect with each other, this why it's impossible to understand destiny and free will

[@ALzzanam]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@alyarrf]

When some people think about aliens. The first thing that comes to their mind is about "making contact". Why is it, when we talk about the Creator, we don't think about the creator making contact?

[@Ruby-K]

Group hug....

[@MrSkee80]

Mashallah

[@m.a4123]

Why patreon with so high taxes...??? Why not gofundme where you only donate how much you want.

[@ali78610121012]

Bro they have a GoFundMe aswell. Check the links in the description of the video

[@skiphariest]

One word...Intellectuals...

[@XiagraBalls]

In other words, M couldn't answer this contradiction and Muslims are told not to ask such awkward questions. It is a problem. FW is the ability to have done otherwise, given the same circumstances. If the universe is deterministic, it would be impossible to have done otherwise. FW advocates effectively put humans above a naturalistic explanation, implying that there's some of Ghost in the Machine (GITM) thinking and pulling levers. Sam Harris demonstrates quite nicely how people can't even control their own thoughts. If you can't control your own thoughts, how can you control your own actions? A justice system based on determinism wouldn't necessarily lead to the breakdown in social cohesion and anarchy. It might be more compassionate, though, and the retribution aspect of punishment would go. The copout that Allah will explain in the afterlife how this works isn't satisfactory at all. Why can't it be explained now? Also, the idea that God sits outside time is also problematic. For one thing, if he give us FW but knows us so well that he knows what we're going to do anyway, then that makes our decisions predictable, based on his knowledge of us. If we're completely free to choose A or B, his knowledge of us would be irrelevant. Also, more fundamentally, if God is outside time, then he couldn't have created the universe as existence is, by its very nature, temporal.

[@inayatakhtar1220]

Islam universally views time as created. It is God's handiwork which, like all Creation, is under God's command. God acts in and through history but, being eternal, time does not encompass him. Nature is also his Creation but, while it manifests his greatness, it in no way encompasses Allah. That is why atheists compare humen creation to God which absolutely wrong because humen have starting point within timeframe and God/Allah is the creator of time and humen. so if you think or contemplate beyond time then you will definitely find out that God/Allah isn't brought by (someone/ some other being) into existence. To Allah, all times are the same. To Him, yesterday, today, and tomorrow are basically the same. So no, God is not bound by time or space or any other human construction. He merely uses concepts of time and space to explain things to human beings in terms we will understand.

[@RayOfHope8]

❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹

[@estonian44]

strange. knowing 100% of this universe isn't pre requisit of going to paradise try to remember, eather u understand qadr or not, dosent make u fire or happy

[@oldmansinginlove3808]

Tryin to talk smart, needs contents... listen to learn, wud b nice... The tall black guy scanned every word n justifications that were not complete, n decided to interrupt or respond on any incomplete sentence... thats bad vibe though... stop that dude

[@HishSwish]

That black guy would make a fantastic da’ee

[@123dsj123]

John 1:1 reads, “The Word (of God) is God.” Consider Baal, the three-foot, life-less stone idol of the Canaanites: The word of Baal is not Baal; however, Baal had words which his worshippers obeyed. In fact, Baal’s words demanded infant sacrifices. But Baal could not speak his own words, because Baal’s words are eternally separated from Baal. Therefore, in the true sense of the eternal separation between Baal and the word of Baal, the word of Baal is not the same as Baal, himself. * This does not mean that no worshipper of Baal could attribute creative powers, strength, and eternality to Baal. Of course, they could - and they did; and it was blasphemed. In fact, each worshipper of Baal could make the following true claim about his Canaanite idol (stone god): Say: “He is Baal - the one (and only). There is none like unto Baal - he begot not, nor is he begotten.” This claim is eternally true and common for all non-living beings including idols. * Similarly, in Islam, the word of Allah is not Allah, himself. Quran 81: 19-21 reads, “Verily, this (Quran) is the word of an honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne.” The quality of speech is an attribute reserved only for living beings. Non-living beings (i.e., Black Stone, Moon, Kaaba) do not speak - and they certainly do not beget, nor are they begotten - they cannot perform a single miracle for their prophets, their priests, their celebrants, and their worshippers.”

[@ahganchi]

How can a stone idol be creative Your analogy is absurd

[@scottholder4431]

Our universe was either created naturally or supernaturally. Forget words like, "contingent", "necessary". Those words do not help solve the problem of whether our universe was created naturally or supernaturally. The only evidence we have is natural processes. So our universe was created by some natural process, even if we cannot tell you exactly which natural process it was. We have no evidence to even suggest it was supernaturally created.

[@nararion5649]

Let’s start worshipping nature now

[@scottholder4431]

@@nararion5649 At least we have evidence it exists.

[@nararion5649]

@@scottholder4431 we also have evidence God exist 😂

[@scottholder4431]

@@nararion5649 Nope, no evidence of anything supernatural.

[@nararion5649]

@@scottholder4431 no evidence of concsience, no evidence of feelings, no evidence of soul, no evidence of math. They are all concept😬🙃 What kind evidences good enough for you to believe God exist? People in the past have asked the same thing, God shows them miracles, yet they still disbelieve. People today should use their intellect, their logic and deduction, to find God, because even miracle won’t work for them. Now, how far have you tried to seek God? Have you done your research seriously? Have you pondered about the universe, why you are here, and where will you head to? You are distracted from the most important question: why you are born in this world, for what purpose?

[@tajajittow]

that agnostic dude sounded like 2chainz

[@christopherwells3426]

Our brother HAMZA EXPLAINED PREDESTINATION beautifully It doesn't happen because it's written it's written because it's already happened.

[@eistudiesl7193]

It was originally from dr imran if I am not mistaken, I don't know if imran came up with it or heard it from someone else though.

[@rezakhan1086]

@@eistudiesl7193 Islam has been around for 1400 years, so none of these explanations are new.

[@Anarchyz999]

There are some part where it is pre destined like your physical, race, born poor, rich, handicap but all these things are form of test. Aside from all those things, all are our choice.. Hamzah point is valid..

[@Sunshine-rq1ow]

May Allah bless you for all your Dawah and all the Muslim ummah. 🙏

[@nabilfikri2685]

I got goosebumps listening to this conversations. I need to strengthen my Iman.

[@140_IH]

Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah Almighty says: Whoever comes with a good deed will have the reward of ten like it and even more. Whoever comes with an evil deed will be recompensed for one evil deed like it or he will be forgiven. Whoever draws close to Me by the length of a hand, I will draw close to him by the length of an arm. Whoever draws close to Me the by length of an arm, I will draw close to him by the length of a fathom. Whoever comes to Me walking, I will come to him running. Whoever meets Me with enough sins to fill the earth, not associating any partners with Me, I will meet him with as much forgiveness.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2687

[@jatipang]

​@@fedesetrtatio1 dude, just do some research, dont just write nonsense lol

[@vortexvampire]

بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... ............. .............. .........................

[@jn6676]

Ameen

[@AlwaysHope_]

Is it just me but does this guy have such an adorable smile?:)🤷‍♀️

[@RodriguesPaul360]

Sister is that what you got from the conversation????

[@AlwaysHope_]

@@RodriguesPaul360es Funny u should say that? I like to listen to other’s points of view on religion. I’m Christian but I like hearing what others have to say about their faith. Why I made that comment is because of the joy this guy expresses on his face when he talks about his Religion & his beliefs that’s all🤷‍♀️ He’s adorable:)

[@Ayd1th]

​@@AlwaysHope_ why are you a Christian?

[@Ayd1th]

@@AlwaysHope_ why does God have to kill himself to save some humans?

[@AlwaysHope_]

@@Ayd1th Why do u ask?

[@MansMan42069]

Scott Holder embarassing himself as usual

[@MrKhamboo]

Assalamu Alaikum. Which hadeeth is it where the prophet SAW asks to leave the topic when it comes up?

[@michaelevans4110]

Allahumma Salli Ala Muhammadin Wa Ala Ali Muhammadin Kama Sallaita 'Ala Ibrahima Wa'Ala Ali Ibrahima Innaka Hamidum Majid -O Allah, let Your blessings come upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as You blessed Ibrahim and his family -truly You are the Praiseworthy and Glorious Alliumma Barik Ala Muhammadin Wa'Ala Ali Muhammadin Kama Bäraketa Ala Ibrahima Wa Ala Ali Ibrahima Innaka Hamidum Majid -O Allah, bless Muhammad and the family of Muhammad -as You blessed Ibrahim and his family -truly You are the Praiseworthy and Glorious Ameen ya Rabb Jazak Allahu Khayran Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen

[@soultan68]

Hey Everyone if you ask Google or Siri Who is the Most influential person in the world- Prophet Muhammed PBUH comes first 😎 Take that in

[@muhammadumarshaikh6123]

You can clearly see this brother kept trying to reject Allah (god) and kept asking for why, why and why answers even if you give answers the question is still why this, that and that also why. No need to waste time brother but may allah guide this brother.

[@abumansaray7]

Do not give dawa. You won't do well with this comment. It was a great conversation. The man was sincere. You expect him to not ask questions and fully understand Islam in 20 minutes? And you call this a waste of time bc he is sincerely questioning?

[@muhammadumarshaikh6123]

@@abumansaray7 see first half then see second half, he was asking his questions in first half then second half he started taking others questions then his own, go watch full video first. Then tell me what he did or did not.

[@abumansaray7]

@@muhammadumarshaikh6123 I've seen the full video. And there is nothing wrong with his questioning.

[@ghulam4024]

SubhanAllah excellent dawah

[@mohdnorzaihar2632]

just want to share a video "The mathematics behind the relationship between human and god @Jeffrey Lang which might be useful to us/all revert/convert..peace be & assalamualaiqum

[@imtiazahmedkhan7996]

This contingent and necessity is such a load of shit. These are all human categories, play upon words to drive home argument. If all has been written down and foreclosed to alterations, then we are Eternal not contingent. The Necessary Being’s thinking (if there’s such a thing) makes whatever is contingent a Necessity. If initially there’s just God’s desire to begin with, his Will to manifest himself in contingency of creation is similar to ثم جعلنا الشمس عليه دليلا a reversal of necessity/contingency

[@agsaay]

it is very simple really. Allah KNEW what every creation is going to do, so he wrote it. As simple. You still have the choice to do what you want, only that GOD already knew what you are going to do and he wrote it. Again, very simple. Allah knows what was and what would be, and that which was not to be; if it was how it would be.

[@ainils133]

I cried, what a beautiful conversation

[@hadispujianto2224]

So Refreshing

[@mmagdyy]

I don't like it when people complete brother Abbas words for him

[@Diyas112]

My brother is humble and intelligent , may allah show him the true path amin

[@shabsog]

the answer for that is you have the free will to choose if you want to believe that or not

[@elynoorzai9407]

May Allah guide this brother

[@jerrinator468]

It looked like abbas was talking to abbas 2

[@whitedragon7436]

2 Abbas in the same frame

[@DawahLand]

Which camera and lens did you use to record this? Amazing quality

[@kayposia4997]

The movie 'matrix', when neo meet the architect. I think that's the best way to describe predestined and freewill.

[@sammykevin9818]

MashaAllah..Nice conversation

[@SilverTrill]

Mash'Allah high iq discussions 👌🏾

[@yizzysblock]

could have Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) been an autistic genius??? which could explain his unique honesty among his people and also his poetry genius ??? lol im a muslim btw and this is just a doubt thought that I always had in my mind hahaha plz dont judge me ..I heard its normal to have doubts sometimes and I actually decided to write this comment really to get rid of this doubt if anybody can say something about my suggestion, plz do....? because I never heard anybody say this ....what if he was just a truly, intelligent, honest and ultimately optimistic autistic person which could explain his different style of speech eloquence and genius poetry...and as far as the prophecies well his utmost optimism and his intelligence couldve played a part in it ?? and as far as daring to lie about God, well it could be: 1- that because he was autistic he was a bit insane and he always thought he was telling the truth eventhough it wasn't OR 2- he knew he was telling a lie but because it served a greater purpose and it was to turn people towards Allah, he just continued his mission and thought he was doing a good thing for everyone. It's a crazy theory, I know because it still wont explain the miracles and the literature patterns in the Quran itself and a bunch of other things too but still just wanted to share this ..jazakula khair love u all....again plz dont take this seriously people... it was just a thought :) but do let me know what yall think thanks!

[@coaching.worked]

An autistic genius can't produce prophecies that all come true without errors or show physical miracles to the companions

[@aaronharun1394H]

The Creator of everything is not the same as everything that is created who does not create anything. *we make something out of what has already been created. The Cause of everything is not the same as everything that is caused.

[@aaronharun1394H]

How do you know I exist? You havent seen me. You havent met me before. My post is evidence of me. My post is not me. I typed in my post. I produced my post. What I produce is evidence of me. creation is evidence of the Creator which He not only creates but also sustains, provides, has Power over. You do not see me but you see evidence of me (my post). We do not see God (our Creator) but we see evidence of Him (His creation) all around us. I had a purpose when I made my post. The purpose of our creation in this limited life in this limited world is with our Creator.

[@freeman7983]

masha ALLAH

[@general302]

top video abass

[@maneckahmed9825]

May Allah guide the brother.

[@KhoirulArifin]

25 years

[@Noah-ol2of]

❤❤❤

[@scottholder4431]

So if something is contingent, but we do not know what it is contingent upon.............do we make up things or do we admit that "we do not know"? Let's take the universe. The universe is contingent upon something right? But we do not know what it is contingent upon? We just don't know. So since we do not know, do we just make up an answer(god) or do we admit that we do not know????? What is the better course of action? 1)Just making up an answer and pretending it is right or 2)are we honest with ourselves and admit that we do not know?????

[@DEZZA12]

We know that the contingency cannot go on forever thats why it has to go upon to something that is not contingent , which is consistent with the one of the descriptions of the islamic god, That being said , this is not the reason or the sole reason why muslims assume that god exists, there are many other factors the most important one for me was the quraan ,and others were the qualities of the prophet and the prophecies that came true. Mind you i was very doubtful but in the end many factors were , atleast for me ,undeniable. I hope i explained a bit well about muslims perspective Have a nice day

[@scottholder4431]

@@DEZZA12 You didn't answer my question for some strange reason.

[@DEZZA12]

@@scottholder4431 because your question is based on an assumption which is wrong about the islamic belief, Your assumption is that we only take into consideration the contingency argument , but we dont.

[@moes5391]

well, if you do that, then that goes against the very nature of the vast majority of humans which is curiosity and seeking truth/knowledge, these attributes are the driving force for scientific discovery and human innovation. So to answer your question, deducing that there is a god (or an all powerful/ all knowledgeable entity if you do not like the term god) that all things are contingent upon seems perfectly logical.

[@scottholder4431]

@@DEZZA12 So you are too ignorant to know the answer to my question? Try again!

[@HussainFahmy]