UNDEFEATED WHITE FOREST AZAMINA! - DECK GUIDE & DISCUSSION

[@lvxaethernum9872]

Instead of Debtors I like running Susurrus of the Sinful Spoils and Silvera Sinful Spoils of Betrayal. Betrayal is a permanent negate and it has a nice protective effect in the grave. If you pitch Betrayal with Diabellstar you can protect your Azamina combo from handtraps. I cut Woes altogether. Scourge is fine. Also, I like two Tales or even 3 for consistency.

[@GrinningNeko143]

I like the idea of Betrayal I don't think multiple ROTA copies is correct, the card is really bad and still a 1 of even after SUDA support in most testing lists

[@sfxdev9694]

Susurrus has been putting in an incredible amount of work for me. Definitely slept on tech!

[@thewhitefallen6362]

@@sfxdev9694 can you explain in what scenarios susurrus comes up and how to use it?

[@MDagonic]

Debtors went into my side deck for match-ups where I'm in need for a second fusion spell. What I like to test atm is Cross-Sheep it can help make your board without using your NS. Only issue is, that you are "forced" to play 2 or 3 Tales to insure the right combination of cards for the Sheep-Line.

[@GrinningNeko143]

cross-sheep is definitely an interesting to test, will be even better when we get the new fusions

[@gavingolden4351]

Really enjoying this deck. Finally got all the pieces together and ready for SUDA support, thanks for the profile vid 🙏🏻

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@gavingolden4351 glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah ive been really enjoying this deck cant wait to play it again today

[@gavingolden4351]

@@GrinningNeko143 good luck to you, I went 2-1-1 at my locals last night, lost against spiritual beast, shifter and fissure are cards unfortunately

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@gavingolden4351 yeah unfortunately deck just loses to shifter. Ive tried combating it with crossout targets in the side but honestly probably just have to hold the L

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@gavingolden4351 only other thing is psy frame gamma i could see

[@gavingolden4351]

@@GrinningNeko143 I used to run 2 druiswurm and a mag to make a easy chaos angel in case of shifter just to put a tower on board and try to get as much follow up for next turn with a woes.

[@Rain593]

I'd recommened replacing Malong with Satelitte Warrior. It's a lvl 10 you can only make with zapper + diabel and it pops cards equal to the number of synchros in your GY on summon. It's won me lots of games.

[@MonsterCondo]

Nice deck, I can't wait for the Supreme Darkness support, gonna be sweet!

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@MonsterCondo yeah i cant wait to be able to test the new support and figure out different end boards! Gonna try and record with a new program

[@demonkazi]

I still support decking debtors, at least one copy. Mainly, because it's so clutch during the long game and it does make a great interrupt with Sol.

[@yugispace6084]

I’ve been tearing a lottttt and I think debtors is super good but without the bridge from the new cards in January I don’t think it’s necessary rn, come January I’m putting it back in the list forsure

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@yugispace6084 yeah that's definitely how I feel about it. It's been great when I had it, but very awkward trying to bridge into it

[@KeithRamos-bo7lq]

Debtors is free because in draw phase you can use wanted and chain debtors to send wanted

[@GrinningNeko143]

oh yeah I always forget about that line

[@GrinningNeko143]

like it's always great when I open it or draw into it, just never find myself searching it over 2nd deception for the card draw

[@Seluina]

One thing I would like to see is your side deck and what you sided in for what match up. I always stuggle with side decking.

[@GrinningNeko143]

I had actually recorded my side deck, but cut it out last minute when I saw the length of my yapping

[@GrinningNeko143]

For this past weekend I was on: 2x Nibiru 3x Crossout Designator 2x Cosmic Cyclone 1x Harpie's Feather Duster 3x Evenly Matched 2x Dimensional Barrer 1x Anti-Spell Fragrance 1x Skill Drain I'm still figuring out the side deck, most likely cutting crossout completely for 3 Thrust if I ever go to a regional or high level competition

[@GrinningNeko143]

I'll definitely cover it in the future & siding decisions!

[@VeryNiceYGO]

I cut debtors, mid to late game or in a pinch its dead. Personal choice though.

[@hatchet8720]

Should I play Susuruss over Debtors? I like the reset value of Susuruss but Debtors is better to special for GY

[@LeonbowWildheart]

Hey! How does Ghost ogre stop Deception? 👀 It's face up when it uses it's activated effect.

[@GrinningNeko143]

you can respond to the activation of its effect to tribute for the search with ghost ogre. Since tribute is the cost, and it is a continuous spell, ghost ogre not only stops the search but theyre also down a monster.

[@rowdycollectibles9437]

Continuous spells must remain face up on the field in order to resolve their effects. If it leaves the field the effect just fizzles basically

[@ImMicku]

MST negates (not really)

[@0zRevolution]

Sweet!

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@0zRevolution thank you for watching!

[@michaellin295]

What are your thoughts on crimson dragon package or the dragoon package?

[@GrinningNeko143]

dragoon package is really nice if you want to play it. my experience with it is i never had ample cards to discard for the negate. if you want to play crimson dragon package u need to run centurions, but I think that will honestly get cut when SUDA comes out

[@michaellin295]

@GrinningNeko143 i never noticed that Dragoons negate effect had a discard cost lol. I've been thinking about the crimson dragon package for

[@michaellin295]

Legatia,Blazar and I've been trying to incorporate crimson to target visas amitara to summon a level 8 dragon synchro that could form some sort of interruption. Kind of wish Scarlight red dragon archfiends effect was a quick effect

[@michaellin295]

What are your thoughts on playing cartesia and quem?

[@GrinningNeko143]

i think it adds more normal summon bricks to the deck and more inconsistency when you want your normal summon to either be astellar or silvy

[@mortis8188]

You think this can be played with one Deception? I don't really wanna spend the money for two rn unless it's absolutely necessary.

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@mortis8188 it depends how competitive you want to be. You can absolutely play at 1 you're just giving up a lot of consistency. This card might even be moved to 3 once SUDA gets here

[@sternritternovad]

Nice outfit

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@sternritternovad thank you the hat was made for me by a fan for halloween and im happy it matches WF

[@jayavila5248]

How does the SUDA stuff make the toy engine cuttable? What would be replacing it?

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@jayavila5248 the azamina elzette of the white forest, and the new fusion quickplay bridges the archetypes together and provides additional extenders that take the place of toy

[@sunnyporter8694]

Tri-edge master instead of Mulong??

[@GrinningNeko143]

yeah that could be an option i just hesitate if the card draw is more useful. the good thing about coral dragon is its also a tuner so u still get the diabell effect. where as tri edge really only makes Chaos Angel which we already get both light & dark with azamina now

[@hatchet8720]

Surprised your not playing Mannadium reframing the 2 toy monsters alone make Visas Amiritara to grab a simple omni, get rid of the golden dragon synchro for Visas 100% and scrap triple tactics

[@GrinningNeko143]

I used Amitara in the pure white forest list, the issue I've run into with it in testing is it only good if you are on the play. Where as talents is good either or, your back row is extremely clogged already not counting if you open imperm, and lastly you have to have both toy box & azamina engine in your opener to go into that line otherwise your board ends up weaker

[@GrinningNeko143]

it is still very viable and i could definitely test it out more

[@maxvonwitzleben4564]

Azerune can’t negate summons of effect

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@maxvonwitzleben4564 correct but it can negate the overlay and special summon of say a goblin biker xyz. Because pretty much every goblin biker name specials another from hand

[@lvxaethernum9872]

Also, At least 1 Chaos Allure Queen is nice.

[@GrinningNeko143]

i dont feel like it really adds anything to the deck unfortunately. You don't really want to search it over a Woes or Scourge with Rciela, so it kinda just gums up the deck. In my opinion the deck has enough extenders without it

[@juanpedrostorr170]

Your anime character lip reading is off

[@GrinningNeko143]

yeah i had to use a lower quality camera for tracking for higher quality card camera

[@hatchet8720]

Should I play Susuruss over Debtors? I like the reset value of Susuruss but Debtors is better to special for GY

[@GrinningNeko143]

if u have room for a card like Susuruss then you definitely want to be playing Debtors over it instead. Debtors is a much better card

[@hatchet8720]

@@GrinningNeko143 just making sure I see more list with debtors, Susuruss is semi okay as card

[@GrinningNeko143]

@@hatchet8720 issue with sussurus is it doesn't really accomolish anything that isnt already printed inherently on your other cards

[@hatchet8720]

@@GrinningNeko143 very true maybe a one of in the future maybe