Under Eye Fine Lines Hack

[@FafiLuv22]

I am literally going to go through your entire channel with pen and paper to take notes. I have no clue what to do. My oily face did fine up until my 35th birthday. My face changed overnight. 😅

[@Ari-ge5cp]

Girrrllll dont tell me that! I will be 35 omg i cant believe just a few years ago we were in school!!!! Listening to CDs and now we are into skin care!!!! Take vitamins! Good skin care regimen and ya know.... no smoking n o no drinking

[@はやs]

Haha nice, girls❤❤ I'm in my 20s and scared that I got fine lines on my lower eyelid ​@@Ari-ge5cp

[@Smaugette]

She also has a website!

[@dallasoch]

I'm 38 and I never noticed any fine lines/ wrinkles until right after 35. My skin and hair is also much more dry. I wake up almost every morning with white, dry, crusty, cracky skin in my face, especially all around my mouth area(not my lips), regardless of what I put on my skin before bed. I hate the dryness!

[@JustBeingAwesome]

My 42-year old skin has improved so much in the past 3 years because of her. Start with her oldest youtube videos, they are proper skin classes 😉 People think I'm 10 years younger 😎😎😎

[@catsandcrows8880]

I find Weledas Skin Protection Balm with Calendula for babies better than vaseline, it works in the same way. Weleda is a German company btw.

[@monejohn9973]

Also 😅 How can the retinal penetrate the skin at all? If there's a thick greasy barrier blocker of Vaseline.

[@Samantha-xr4mx]

Weleda is actually a New Zealand company 😊

[@catsandcrows8880]

@@Samantha-xr4mx Check out the companys history, it's not from New Zealand even though it has branches there.

[@illuminati_yang2324]

I actually like using Honest Brand Healing Head to Toe Ointment. Allantoin helps with healing scars etc. same concept as Vaseline 😬

[@sarahsstyle2038]

I appreciate how you used Vaseline properly to seal products in instead of using it to hydrate which it doesn't do

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

I love your wallpaper!!!😊

[@maryedwards-oe4rg]

Me too

[@Jasmine215100]

Why is your complexion so flawless??

[@elin_]

Vaseline under my eyes is like begging for milia

[@RachelReaiah]

I learnt this the hard way. Now I use castor oil with frankincense

[@elin_]

@@RachelReaiah that sounds like a recipe for milia AND allergy.

[@ivvie1452]

Only if ur prone and do it wrong. For me, i started in high school cuz vaseline is cheap and have been using it ever since. At 28 im still using it. Ever had milia. Occasionally i use it all over my face like twice a month. Daily on my lips. It works perfectly. Now im putting it before my retinol like she is instead of at the end.

[@RachelReaiah]

@@elin_ for me, the vaseline gave me milia. Had like 4 or 5 under each eye. Popped them with a tweezer (dont do this please). The castor oil and frankincense didn't give me milia. Have been using it for months now

[@braxybreezy7996]

​@@ivvie1452some people say to put the Vaseline first and face creams after and don't ppl say to put face creams first, Vaseline after, then retinol last. How do we know which is right?! Lol❤

[@sugarapple5465]

With the vaseline on, will the retinol even be absorbed? Why are we buffering it? 🙏

[@katelijnesommen]

Because it can be really irritating. Layering it with the vaseline makes it less harsh and decreases the likelihood of irritation or flaking. It will still get absorbed but more slowly

[@nobodyknowsanything705]

Hyaluronic acid serum is also used as a buffer most people put the hyaluronic acid serum on first then a retinol so it's less irritating

[@monejohn9973]

Exactly 😅

[@mariskabarnard8968]

In South Africa this retinol is 0.1%, very interesting 😅

[@rebthirteen8012]

Some can’t use hyaluronic acid with a retinol because combined they irritate the skin. The Vaseline is a better option for those people.

[@carrielassiter8455]

Putting retinol on top of vaseline will not let it get into the skin. Vaseline acts as a barrier. Just a waste. Thinnest to thickest. Retinol, night cream, then Vaseline.

[@JiZd-xj1ok]

Thats what I was wondering

[@rebthirteen8012]

The lady’s a dermatologist - I think she knows her stuff lol 😜

[@AutumnElaine]

Need a more mild Retinoid? Theres one with .1% Retinol and Bakuchiol from Some By Mi- Retinol Bakuchiol. They also have a more mild eye cream version! Beauty of Josean also has an eye cream containing Retinal and Ginseng, and this one has a lovely built-in applicator! ☺️ I hope this helps someone! Happy skincare! ✨️🥰

[@Erika-qp4qq]

Why not on the upper eye lids? What do we put in there?? My skin is saggy in my eye lids 😢

[@kivakai]

Why is no one answering?? I too must know!

[@elin_]

If you have a mild retinol or retinal eye cream it should be fine to apply on the brow bone below the brows. Not too far down though since the product will migrate a bit.. I'd you apply too far down it will get into your eyes and make them dry.

[@sanamokhtari8102]

she explained it in a video it is not recommended to use it on eyelid please do not

[@Prettyandtimeless]

Don’t use it on your eye lids. It made mine puffy and now it’s taking forever to go away

[@JahGemini.2222]

Top half I always put my products I just avoid the bottom part above the lash line xx

[@carmenroxanabarsan6240]

This kind of advice help us so much. Thank you. ❤

[@ik1997]

I like it when there's no background music ... But loved the video thank you for the tip ❤

[@allhimwithme5115]

Is a petroleum product really better than an organic, cold pressed caster oil?

[@su361]

No it's not. It's just a lot cheaper. You use shea butter instead of vaseline.

[@RogueMomma25]

I buy Vaseline in bulk. My son uses for his eczema as well

[@LuckyStarTarot]

You're amazing!! Love the tips 👌 you're a great doctor😀

[@evelinviduka1]

Thank you for your cool advices💯♥️

[@janet8182]

Thanks for the tips. What would you recommend for the upper eyelids? Thank you.

[@SanchoGracie]

47 and LOVE that retinol.

[@farahshbeeb7954]

Doc doesn’t the Vaseline act as a barrier for absorbing the retinol serum?

[@The_Black_Anarchist]

I hate when they do this. It makes no sense. The vaseline should be applied last.

[@LunaPaloma77]

​@@The_Black_Anarchist Exactly, it's an occlusive, it should be the last step on any routine.

[@user-lh6vr6vs4h]

Its applied to form a barrier as retinol is irritating on this area

[@The_Black_Anarchist]

@@user-lh6vr6vs4h If if is so irritating, she should use a lower strength or switch to retinol. Use a barrier means that it's not being absorbed into the skin. It's a waste of money.

[@emd4682]

No bc retinol disolves in lipids (like Vaseline) making easier to absorb, but it also acts like a buffer, making retinol less harsher

[@sebumpostmortem]

Wht not to use directly a retinoid eye cream *specifically* formulated for eyes like ISDIN or AVÈNE' s retinAL ones? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@rebthirteen8012]

Because not all people can apply any retinol product directly, even product specifically identified as being for the under eye area!

[@DallasNatureLover]

?? How is it possible for the retinol to work if the Vaseline has already been applied and has created a barrier??

[@marleneguillemette]

Good question 👍

[@ZakManga]

Retinoids are just that strong on the eye area. Especially if you're not used to it. I tried with a gentle retinaldehyde and still got eczema so I'm definitely going to try this method when my skin recovers

[@jessicaf8917]

The point is to create a barrier. It will still have an effect, but the barrier will soften the harshness for the most delicate skin.

[@mdml0]

I don't think it will work. Vaseline is a really good skin protectant. I would rather use a weak retinol and slowly ease in and see how my skin reacts and adjust accordingly. I am now able to tolerate tretinoin around the eye area.but that is me.

[@DallasNatureLover]

@@mdml0 Exactly. I use a retinol specifically for the eye area and tretinoin 0.05 on the rest of my face.

[@ainakunigelyte]

I always wonder - why choose this serum when it contains alcohol really highly in the list over the Ordinary retinol? Overall why do you recommend loreal when they always have alcholol which is drying high in the list?

[@ChristianaUkv]

Wait, eye serum on top of vaseline? Will the serum penetrate into the skin? Vaseline creates a protective layer on the skin how will the serum get where it needs to?

[@shellycupp4062]

Don't give up on retinol under the eyes at first they will look a little crinkly and dry (try every other day at first) but after a couple of weeks this resolves and you start to see beautiful results ♥️

[@caro748]

Thanks, I was having the issues you describe at the beginning and now I put the tiniest bit with a lot of moisturizer. Will mix it up with your suggestion too!

[@heyangie123]

Thank you SO much for this! I started using .05 tretinoin on me eyes and by the 4th day it seemed like I would have to consider an eye lift quite frankly. I couldn’t believe how crepey and dry my skin became. I started using a VERY high fatty acid oil I brought back from the Amazon and it’s been working to correct the dryness like nothing else. Grateful to have stumbled across your comment, gives me reassurance to just keep doing what I’m doing. ❤

[@Prettyandtimeless]

@@heyangie123is it working or do you need to moisturize as buffer first or use retinol less?

[@pTQq]

My favorite retinol product. I test many brads but always go back to this one.

[@ainakunigelyte]

I always wonder - why people buy this over the Ordinary 's retinol? Also loreal contains alcohol as a second ingredients which is very drying..why is this serum your choice?

[@IntoTheForest77]

Thank you!!!❤❤❤

[@sibby84]

I use Inkey List Retinol Eye Cream. Is that fine to use, or would I be better doing this instead?

[@cidaliacampos6051]

Thank you! ❤

[@JustBeingAwesome]

I use Paula's choice 0,3% retinol also under my eyes and to the sides... and my skin accepts it without a problem 😅🥳

[@jillian7882]

It’s been a game changer!!!!

[@wiseowl1580]

Oh stop it

[@shadowtouched16]

What about eye serums with retinol like Beauty of Josen eye cream, isn't that safe for eyelids? I have seen several others vloggsrs apply it on eyelids. Hmm

[@elin_]

I put it below the eyebrows.. but not eyelids

[@grainiac7824]

Bc it is absorbed into eyeballs

[@elin_]

@@grainiac7824 no it's not. It travels a bit, and that's why you shouldn't put it too close to the eye.

[@shadowtouched16]

@elin_ I do this as well. Even with the ones that say safe for entire eyelids. I was just curious of her take on it.

[@jessicaf8917]

I’ve been using the La Roche-Posay redermic R eye cream and the Beauty of Joseon eye cream with retinal around my eyes regularly (alternating). I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin around my eyes. I put both on my eyelids, too. I’ve not had a problem. Should I stop putting it on my eyelids even though I haven’t had a problem? Will the retinol and retinal cause damage?

[@angieangelopoulou1196]

What damage? Retinoids don’t cause damage to the skin tissue🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DallasNatureLover]

@@angieangelopoulou1196 They cause redness and peeling for some people

[@angieangelopoulou1196]

@@DallasNatureLover Jessica said she doesn’t come across any kind of problem, which means it works for her. So no damage here.

[@moxylady007]

Eye lids are very thin and the vitamin A gets absorbed into the skin. It’s a very astute question to wonder if it can and does get absorbed by the eyes and if that can cause issues. I would love for this to be addressed.

[@moxylady007]

Also which retinol cream do you prefer? The beauty of josen one is great you say?

[@foziakhan7680]

Thank you for sharing, love your advise. Please share what we could do to ageing eyelids

[@user-fm8mi5th5q]

Would it be a good idea to do the same on lip lines, above your lip?

[@lisablackwell7098]

I thought you put products on thinnest to thickness. Wouldn't the Vaseline keep the serum from penetrating?

[@oksanarubin895]

TOU ARE THE BEST !!!!!❤❤❤❤

[@milenailic1437]

What moisturizer to use for under eye area for mature and sensitive skin?

[@nele9045]

Is there a serum you recommend that’s pregnancy safe?

[@juliekurek8464]

what is the reason to avoid the upper eyelid?

[@hellomarisolmo]

Burning and that skin is super thin!

[@celestehernandez2000]

You can end up doing more damage than good, the area is really sensitive and doesn’t need too much

[@user-xt6cr5dm6l]

Hello dr, I did this with tretinoin and the next day I got crazy allergy it was hurting and itching so I stopped tretinoin around eyes. I’d have to try with retinol :) thanks 🙏

[@PiXie232]

Retinol *is* the lowest form of Tretinoin.

[@PiXie232]

And if you’re having issues like that, use an occlusive ointment or moisturizer BEFORE putting on your tret, then put the tret on, then put another layer of thick moisturizer on. This will usually help mitigate any problems like that.. unless you’re truly “allergic”, then I wouldn’t even mess with retinol either until you consult with a dermatologist and figure out what you *can* use around your eyes.

[@dancing......7646]

at what age would you recommend this routine?

[@beverlymcpherson2819]

The baseline gave me Milia

[@noimnotakpoppfpsheacy2526]

Retinols treat milia

[@sandrag5528]

Try beauty of joseon retinal eye cream

[@mido3910]

I use fresh castor oil above my night cream to lock in moisture.. is it equivalent to vsseline or should switch to vaseline from castor oil?

[@lunajack9947]

Should i put Vaseline under my eye, if my eye cream has retinol?

[@The_real_JulieKelsea]

Interesting, thank you!

[@Tulip__]

Why not on the eyelids?

[@shebuckley260]

It could find its way into your eyes, I guess.

[@elin_]

Apply a small amount below the eyebrows.. the product will migrate down a little bit. But avoid the eyelids.

[@emmaweschke2063]

I can't remember if you said in a previous video, why (anatomically) are lower eyelids okay with retinol but not upper? Thanks always for educating us (your nerds ❤)

[@ataylor4078]

Thank you for sharing this ☮️💕

[@-kattya-]

but if you apply retinol or any other ingredient on top of vaselin which is an occlusive, can that ingredient actually penetrate into the skin??

[@never_give_up90]

Ooh good idea!

[@HighOnCosyGaming]

Ok, so I know this is a bit late but is there a mild retinol to use on the eye lids?

[@michelletan03]

Thank you! I will definitely try this

[@edelcost9404]

I'm a bit confuzzled. So if you're applying this 'after' your night time routine. Does that mean you've already applied tretinoin to your face (forehead etc) and then just using the L'Oréal retinol under your eyes?

[@EmorettaRobinson]

Hi. She said the Vaseline was used as a "buffer" before the Loreal retinol was applied underneath her eyes. So the Vaseline was used before the retinol. I didn't see where she also used tretinoin.

[@edelcost9404]

@@EmorettaRobinson Thank you for your reply. Shereen said in this video she applied the Vaseline + retinol combination after her night time routine. From watching most of her KZbin videos she often (not all the time) uses a tretinoin prescription in her night time routine. That's why I'm wondering in this video did she skip using the tretinoin and apply the L'Oréal retinol instead. The short style videos are very handy but sometimes things can be lost in translation in them so just wondering 🤓🤓

[@mimivee5494]

She just means do what do you and when you are done do this for your eyes.

[@moxylady007]

This video is for sensitive skin. So she’s not saying this is her routine. It’s a night time routine for people with sensitive skin.

[@PiXie232]

@@moxylady007 no it’s not lol

[@MSakellis]

Does the Vaseline not act as an occlusive and prevent the retinol from getting into the skin?

[@brittanymiller7830]

What can I put on my upper eyelids for wrinkles and crepe skin?

[@lenaxshin]

Shouldn't we wash our hands after using a retinol product?? What if you rub your eyes, will the product that is applied under the eye or the fingers enter the eye??

[@jubudup1]

Why do we skip upper eyelids for retinol? Does it also apply to vitamin c, peptides etc?

[@nobodyknowsanything705]

Isn't Vaseline also a barrier? How does eye serum get under the Vaseline to your skin?

[@julielaite7352]

So do you sleep on your back? I am a side sleeper and the Vaseline would get all over my pillow right? Thanks

[@siren4410]

Do I need a buffer for 0.3% Retinol by L'oreal? I just put it straight on

[@angieangelopoulou1196]

If you don’t experience inflammation, redness, bumps etc, means your skin handles it perfectly and you don’t need a buffer. Everyone’s skin is so different. If it works without irritation, keep it up

[@siren4410]

@@angieangelopoulou1196 Seems to make sense, thanks! I do buffer before I put on A313 for sure.

[@angieangelopoulou1196]

@@siren4410 whatever makes your skin happy!

[@JustBeingAwesome]

​​@@siren4410came here to say that :) I alternate A313 and retinol. My skin loves the A313 without buffer. My skin heals so much faster in case of inflammation. Also I sometimes mix my retinol and A313.

[@vamgi192]

What about the eyelids then?

[@ameliel8792]

Is there any product you recommend for the upper eye lids? I wanna protect the collagen!

[@kittykat831]

Yeah actually as someone who’s eyelids hates them (I get a swollen eye a lot ..contact wearing? Allergies? CNS I dunno 😂) I kinda wonder what to do to protect what we got there. I know if you put retinol on the eyelids isss no beuno

[@caro748]

Why? I didn’t know an put a little bit often…@@kittykat831

[@blueice011]

I've never got that upper/lower eyelid thing. To me, those are eyelids. I use the same thing I use on my entire face, on both of them.

[@carmenhorvath8748]

I have this problem, red, swollen, irritated upper eyelids, I use Avene AD balm or LaRoche Posay B5 balm or Aveeno restorative cream, any formula that recovers skin barrier will do

[@mewrrorball]

can I use a moisturizer instead? I'm prone to milia and kinda scared to put on vaseline under my eyes

[@elin_]

Yes

[@MeryOnTheRun]

Whats the point of an occlusive product beneath rétinol ? How is it going to pénétrate?

[@amarfattal3506]

In your opinion, is it worth buying a retinol eye cream or balm or is using retinol serum for the face and buffering it with vaseline just as effective? And if I do end up buying a retinol eye cream, is it safe to use on a daily base or should I limit it to once a week like the retinol for the rest of my face?

[@stranger6056]

Vaseline, Is it work for smile lines also?

[@AlitheaKundanis]

Vaseline on my undereye always gives me red bumps

[@alysafleisher]

Because it is petroleum and shouldn't be on your skin. I would never listen to this woman about this. PETROLEUM is what runs gas engines, not on my skin.

[@ZakManga]

Try looking into milia. Some people get that under the eyes under certain conditions. There's a lot of factors that come into play with the causes of milia and don't just do research about it on the popular Google sites since those can be misleading

[@AlitheaKundanis]

@@ZakManga I'm familiar, had one milia, which I went to a medspa to fix. There's no white center after vaseline it's just slightly inflamed rash looking. Goes away in less than three days of discontinuing vaseline. Vaseline is not formulated for under eye. The skin is more sensitive and thinner. I do use it to block chemical exfoliants from going where I don't want, as chapstick and in my nose during the winter though to prevent cracking from the dryness. Vaseline as an eye cream is generally bad advice. KZbin "Drs" need to stop "helping" people with this wisdom. When I want to "slug" I use cocokinds ceramide recovery balm and it does not do anything negative to my face including under-eye. I have combination acne prone skin and a lot of her advice would make my acne worse. I've gone to derm, estheticians, general doctors, and diy'd and in my many decades of acne the practitioner to help me the most was of Traditional Chinese Medicine. She forebade me from exfoliating and had me do a simple wash and moisturizer routine. Now that my acne and bowel movements are under control she's allowed me one discolouration serum to my routine. And I'm not to change the routine until all pigment is gone. Then we'll address texture.

[@nightlilysubs]

@@alysafleisheri mean ive been putting Vaseline on my face since 13 never had a pimple

[@arol1644]

@@alysafleisher no it’s not. Petrolatum ( a petroleum byproduct, as in Vaseline or Petroleum Jelly) ≠ Petroleum. There’s also the fact that scientific research indicates that petroleum jelly is one of the safest, most effective and affordable ingredient in skincare, bc it has a low potential to be irritating. Ofc it’s not suitable for everyone, as most things aren’t, but spreading misinformation ab it isn’t very productive.

[@kantakouzini]

dr idris, prolly wont see this, but the music, its kinda hard to hear your voice when competing with the background music, esp sice its a wordy song.

[@greyLeicester]

Dude, stop outting my tips!! 😂😂😂 Also, retinol around the eyes and nasolabial folds is a no-no😮

[@stephanied5386]

Could you explain why no retinol on the upper eyelids?

[@bloom4807]

I am guessing it can penetrate into your eye since it’s such a thin skin layer.

[@sirip1239]

From my personal experience, it made my eyes extremely dry as well!

[@Prettyandtimeless]

Made mine puffy. In a different video she said it would make them swell and it did

[@stephaniesteed7653]

I use retinol every night. Could that be affecting my under eyes? Seems like I am getting more lines under my eyes. I apply Vaseline every night.

[@Prettyandtimeless]

Use it less times per week And moisturize more. Or stop use and let your skin heal then start it again less frequently The wrinkles it caused on me still haven’t gone away after a week so I’m stopping

[@Ginam3939]

I’ve used Vaseline under my eyes before. It helps but for me, not all that much. Remember everyone’s skins is different so what works for someone else might not work for you. Don’t get discouraged just keep trying to find the right product for yourself.

[@jessicataylor1930]

Does the Vaseline not act as an occlusion if you put it on before your retinol?

[@venomsorceress]

Is it dangerous to put castor oil on eyelashes?

[@venomsorceress]

Can we use tretinoin like that?

[@anindita6554]

When i put vaseline on fine lines under the eye it causes milia.. any alternative? I have dry skin..

[@MotoM0nk]

i apply adapalene under eyes and on eye lids directly - no issues. I guess depends on individual skin (mine is aged, dry, sensitive)

[@nicolelewonkenobi]

It may not effect it now, but it can damage the sensitive thin skin of the eyelids with longterm use.

[@heidiheidi311]

It could make your eyes very dry definitely 😢

[@aliceinweberland]

What if you are on tretinoin? Should you not mix tret with other retinols? Can I use tret this way instead?

[@marilenn.costarelli3563]

The L'Oreal serum is a night one, is it ok to use it in the morning?

[@celianieto9963]

So first retinol and then vaseline?

[@Ashley-fc7kd]

wait when it comes to retinol thats specifically for eye skin, can you put it on your upper eye lids?

[@marmite400]

Does castor oil do the same?

[@jillian7882]

I use a little of both because they do different things and it’s changed for the better so much!

[@knp3335]

Please, what can I do about my crepey neck? It’s worst under my chin. I’m 40 and my face is natural and pretty wrinkle-free but my neck looks much older.

[@debloui]

Could you please advise on the best laser for under eye wrinkles? TIA.

[@jb-dk2xn]

Can we get a day and night routine ❤

[@DeirdreOwen-ef8rg]

How does the retinol penetrate through the Vaseline ?

[@jin8339]

Can you used retinol like an eye cream all around the eyes ? I thought you can bec i used BOJ eye retinal about a month now and no issues. ❤❤❤

[@tammynicole9850]

What can be used besides Vaseline?

[@rebeccadvorak3619]

Love this

[@Pkeys88]

I love Vaseline!!!!

[@zl7289]

So you put retinol after Vaseline?

[@katelynnsays]

What moisturizer do you use under your eyes?

[@DelilahJenn]

shouldn't the retinol go under the Vaseline? cuz the Vaseline locks everything in but locks everything out as well so the retinol is just sitting on top of the Vaseline until you wash it off

[@moxylady007]

I put retinol on my upper lids. Is that bad? Why shouldn’t I be doing that?

[@daytripper9579]

Wait, so the retinol goes on top of the vasoline???

[@sianmurray3998]

Why can’t you put retinol on your top eyelids?

[@Samantha-xr4mx]

What do you suggest for upper eyelids? ❤

[@curiousmind6472]

Why not upper eye lids? Might slide into eye?

[@wejoin]

So the tretinoin under eyes is OK? ✅ ?

[@julissarivas6992]

@drshereeneidriss Hi Doc, Is the retinol getting into the skin if you apply it on top of the Vaseline? Isn't vaseline an occlusive therefore sealing everything in that is underneath it and anything you put on top just sits there? Please educate me. Thanks for the knowledge and content. ❤