Under the Pyramids: Inside the Giza Cave Network | Ancient Architects

[@AncientArchitects]

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[@jonnyspratt3098]

How is it possible that the entire cave network has not been completely mapped out at this point? The Giza plateau must be the most studied archaeological site in history and yet there's an entire underworld that no one has thought might hold some secrets? Baffling

[@erikjbaker]

My best hypothesis after thinking about all of the evidence, and I know this sounds crazy, is that they HAVE been explored and there HAS been discovered evidence of lost ancient high technology. The evidence for such is still IN the stone. In my opinion Zahi Hawass is/was employed as the chief disinformation agent, in charge of stagnating the research. Free energy is at stake. There’s still no good explanation for how they shaped and moved such massive megaliths. The recent metrology of ancient, precise granite vases PROVES that such high technology existed.

[@dananorth895]

There have been numerous stories in the past about explorations/discoveries, some fantastic. Latest stories are Egyption military has extensivly mapped the tunnels.

[@alebubu101]

I’ve thought about this very conundrum for years, and the only conclusion I’ve come to is, it relates to the Egyptian economy. There’s direct correlations between large archeological discoveries and bumps in Egyptian tourism. On a meager year, 7-8% of Egyptians GDP is tourism. But after a major discovery, like finding a new space in the great Pyramid, tourism made up almost 16% of Egypts GDP. I think a good comparison would be Saudi Arabia and their oil. Why don’t they just drill as much as possible, make as much money as possible? Once that oil is gone, it’s gone for good. Also, they want that sweet spot between supply and demand, to make the most possible money. I believe Egypt and their sanctioned archeological digs have a similar mentality. If they discover “everything” over the next 10 years, sure things would be prosperous during that time, but then what?

[@erikjbaker]

I like your thinking. I believe that what has been found in Egypt (and in other places) upsets the current understanding of the history of the Earth, its cataclysms, its civilizations and even things as fundamental as our understanding of field theory and physics. It’s paradigm changing.

[@Otis-Tank]

Because they don't want you to know the truth and what's really down there. It's simple

[@Pelidude]

Many years ago, the 1960's, when there was a metaphysical bookstore on every other corner and the power of the pyramids was all the rage in the flower power community (which I was a part of, lol.) We knew the Nile passed in front of the pyramids and many parts were hauled in that way as you have said in other vids. We knew there was a labyrinth of caves. Now here's how that all added up to us (the fun part). The Nile would flood the caves and the water under the pyramids is what actually gave them their mystical powers. The pyramids gathered the power with their perfect geometry and the water would focus the power up through the golden capstone. From there it radiated out and did varying things depending on who you talked to, so Lord knows what. Many people believed all this. I was one to just take things at face value and say okay fine. When all the metaphysical bookstores finally closed up we kind stopped thinking about. Now here I am, 70 years old and someone is finally talking sense about all those same things again without all the "woo woo." Thanks!

[@hannahking1984]

Thank you for this The mysteries spikes so much curiosity but the truth is slowly coming out. I think many things are starting to be revealed but I only pray the truth doesn't get suppressed.

[@Joedoeswhat]

Just imagine being back in the heyday of Egypt sitting back in your backyard having a beer and looking at the stars or even better taking a walk down the main boardwalk of any of these beautiful cosways . And being surrounded by all the beautiful Architecture around you. It must have been something else

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

says an Elitist Time Traveler...

[@keirfarnum6811]

“...causeways...”. Just FYI.

[@PetesGuide]

@@keirfarnum6811Came here to help him but upvoted you instead ‘cos you beat me to it. 😉

[@aquil3scach088]

Egyptians are muslim, they don't drink beer 🙄🙄🙄

[@Joedoeswhat]

@keirfarnum6811 I couldn't think of that word the other day lol thk u boardwalk just didn't sound right. thank you. Causeway. Was the word I was looking for I couldn't think of it the other day

[@TheTikiMan]

I'm calling Chem's footage "The Blair Pyramid Project." I was holding my breath everytime he panned back around.

[@Aaron751]

Love your videos! They are always so informative and enjoyable. These vids inspired me to visit Egypt and it changed my life!

[@AncientArchitects]

Thank you for saying that! Egypt is amazing isn’t it! 🙌

[@zwebb7327]

In classic academic style, Hawass refuted Collins' discovery at first. Then claimed it as his own.

[@donaldgminski8621]

I would refer to Hawass as an Asshole opportunist and thief before even considering the word "academic ". That having been said, you aren't wrong.

[@analiviaminsk1171]

oh his classy academic style lol

[@Ryo_Dragon]

THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT REAL. IT IS TRULY REFRESHING TO HEAR SOMEONE WHO ADMITS WHEN THINGS ARE "UNKNOWN" INSTEAD OF PUSHING THE MAINSTREAM NARRATIVE.

[@conniebenny]

Yet again you manage to make a fascinating video on a topic previously unknown to me! Terrific stuff!

[@Pbav8tor]

I've instantly subscribed to Geoffrey's chann! Thanks for the recommendation!

[@donaldgminski8621]

Start at the beginning, and he releases videos on Sundays. They're a fun series.

[@JMM33RanMA]

Could it be that these sometimes modified but mostly natural caves and tunnels are the source of the legend of a massive underground city containing the treasury that includes the Emerald Tablet of Thoth? This is another fascinating mystery of ancient Egypt, brought to the rapt attention of the netizens by Matt Sibson, the Sherlock Holmes of Ancient Egyptian archaeological matters. Thanks, Matt, you never let your viewers down.

[@greg9069]

I’m sure it is highly likely, but there are powers still alive here that do not want us to know that.

[@diptanudeb3084]

Brother , please make a documentary on the hoyasaleshwara temple architecture, south India. The amount of detail and technology used to make these temples is just breathtaking. Especially the sculptures and status, which are still a mystery to the researchers that how they had achieved such a scale.

[@AshleyMartin-f3x]

Is this the temple on the island?

[@diptanudeb3084]

@@AshleyMartin-f3x no , just search hoyasaleshwara temple in Google

[@WilliamHarbert69]

Given the geology and climate/paleo climate conditions, the cave systems could be quite extensive: More discoveries ahead. The footage was amazing, thanks for your presentation.

[@Cara.314]

what sucks is it's quite sub-par, like how do you not stick the camera in every hole and spin it to see as much as possible when you're that lucky to get to walk in!? so many missed opportunities...

[@ATOMTAYLOR]

Thanks for posting, enjoyed this.

[@SteelTwilight]

Those water channels cut inside the NC-2 roughly worked natural cave area are worth a much closer look, as they look deliberately cut. Would be interesting to know if the ancient Egyptians perhaps used the cave as some sort of natural drain.

[@DarkMatterExists]

“Ready to work.” “What is it?” “Job’s done.” (Sorry, I can’t help but think of that every time I watch your videos 😅) *In all seriousness, this is amazing content though, thank you!

[@AncientOdysseys]

This was awesome! Great work! 💥🤠

[@princecharon]

The phrase 'Khufu's restaurant' conjures up strange ideas that are probably very far from reality, but might make for a fun comedy piece.

[@Chris.Davies]

From Google: Caves are natural; tunnels are man-made (or animal or insect made - that is, they are constructed, and not 'formed'). Caves are irregular in shape, have large caverns and narrow passages; a tunnel is more typically roughly the same diameter throughout.

[@barrywalser2384]

Another great explore. Thanks for bringing this to us Matt!

[@dj-kq4fz]

So much hidden, so much yet to be discovered. Let's hope the WEF doesn't close down this place like Gobekli Tepe! Thanks!

[@AshleyMartin-f3x]

Your the first channel th@t i paid to join i only subscribe i seen your video live finding the block at the tunnel that was amazing i was holding my breath 😊😊

[@Angelazul1997]

If Sahi Hawass is involved, don't expect to find anything that will dictate who really built the pyramids. He is in charge of deciding what is made public and what stays a secret.

[@AshleyMartin-f3x]

Exactly he is the head of the antiquity so he says who dogs where and when they find something he jumps right in there and tries and takes the credit and makes as all think he found it. He never used to be like that when he was just an archeologist.

[@RomanCatsmun]

Y'all dropping hits today 🎉

[@AncientArchitects]

👍👍👍

[@nancyM1313-Boo]

Hi Matt😍hope you are well. Enjoy this type of video on Egypt. There is mystery, a trip with Giovanni Cavilglia (sp?)Pictures! And, Henry Salt and much more. Thank you for another mystery history at Giza Matt. ❤✌

[@lostpony4885]

Check out the awesome footage. So great to shoot your own! Just what we need are your eyeballs there in petson directing the camera. Superb. Thanks!

[@sitindogmas]

gear needed for exploration, two feet and a heartbeat ✌️💚

[@AncientArchitects]

😂

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

Mtn Bike Helmet & some gloves .. plus many batteries.

[@mapsofbeing5937]

considering airflow may be very poor, oxygen may rarify with dangerous levels of ammonia, I'd rather have at least one oxygen tank, and considering structural instability, I'd rather have a friend with me, and a friend outside who knows we went in still, not a lot of gear necessary, just minimal preps

[@WestOfEarth]

Considering the cave complex is inhabited with bats, the guano must be inches thick on the floor...so I'll have a new pair of Wellies on my two feet.

[@smoothrocky1847]

Add camera drones and bat repellent to the growing list

[@RedRisotto]

After all this... nobody noticed the perfect carving of Mike Tyson done by aliens on the whole left part of the screen at 12:06 ? Science people! You have to pay attention! Matt, thank you for the video. I sent the link to Mike Tyson to show him that he is special and should do good.

[@ChipsTipsforLife]

awesome update on the Collins tunnel, thank you! I wish someone would show up with more gear (oxygen, helmet, etc) and a GPS locator so we can see on the surface where these tunnels lead.

[@dananorth895]

Those radar images were taken back when the space shuttle was lauching satilites. The imagery is from 50° N. To 50° S with I think 10 meter resolution, could be wrong though. The images are availible on NASA's Earth Imaging Site. I sure the are higher resolutions that belong to mill/intel.

[@dananorth895]

Also GPS requires clear line of site to acquire satelites. However lidar equiped devices do very nice 3-D mapping. Some Apple phones have that capability. Can be loaded into computer.

[@WestOfEarth]

Thanks Matt! Never heard of these 3 complexes before. Since the cave system existed before the pyramid of Khafre, isn't it reasonable to think the pyramid was built over the cave entrance? In other words, the cave complex ended at the naturally enclosed cavern. It was only exposed by excavators centuries later and is now called an 'entrance'. The cavern would have been a shrine or holy place devoted to Osiris. So researchers should be searching the large cavern!

[@danekane-ox3wi]

Can you plz do an in depth study video about the 3 granit blocks above the entrance to the kings chamber 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 when we went on a tour with Yosef! He specifically stoped us between the blocks to listen to the sound, when u hum barely it created a huge sound 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@guernica4262]

So are you and History for Granite coordinating drops or something?

[@AncientArchitects]

Ha. No, but it’s worked out pretty well 😂

[@UkuleleBobbyKemp]

Lovely Matt: Is it G. Hancock who writes about the 'Duat' Mythology/Hypothesis ie. 'As Above, so Below?' where we imagine the Egyptians 'Questing Out' the Giza Plateau, due to it's proximity to the Nile (with its Duat similarity to the Milky Way?)... - I've a feeling you've said you don't Subscribe to this notion - but it's interesting to imagine this natural cave system *also* forming part of this Quest, again with its Duat similarity to the River (Styx?) of mythology... Fascinating stuff mate, and thanks as ever for putting this together... Bobby 🙏🏻 Ps. Did Andrew Collins do 300+ metres on his own? Either way, those ANcient Aliens boys really are L👀ns aren't they?... 🤪😂🤣

[@GizzyDillespee]

I bet they kept it passable and a little cleaner back in the day... a secret way to get from one place to another?! Hell, yes!

[@jeremybamber5729]

The problem is that Hawass is not to be trusted. He has an extremely strong vested interest in maintaining the historical status quo as it would directly impact his paycheck for someone else to come along and show us something dramatically new. There is also some potential evidence that he is involved in ensuring new discoveries have had their artifacts sold on the black market before what is left gets released to the public. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Hancock fan either, but the combination of ancient reports about the labyrinth and questionable things we continue to find to the modern day do still point to a very early civilisation living in a huge cave network in the Giza area before it was built on top of and the aquifer flooded everything.

[@keirfarnum6811]

History for Granite (who collaborates with Ancient Architects on occasion) has criticized Hawass on more than a few occasions. But they’re reasonable criticisms rather than the conspiracy theories propagated by so many others.

[@francischambless5919]

I don't understand how it'd be against Hawass's interest for things to be discovered in Egypt. Seems far more the opposite, because then he'd be the arbiter of how it's displayed and found and such. Seems more to me he's residing over maintaining what is and the money that's filtered through bribes for that access. I don't know. Discovery just moves way too slow in the most obvious areas where historical things could be found, or it's not even bothered with at all (such as the Osirion or the Great Pyramid's voids).

[@dananorth895]

Hawas had been caught dealing in antiquties long before he was "placed" in his current position.....very odd. Somebody important/wealthy put him in charge. He covers up any new discoveries/leads, while maintaining quiet digs. Then later takes credit for someone else's discoveries....only to find nothing. Kind of leaves you wondering doesn't it?

[@alexsetterington3142]

He was minister for antiquities 2011. So he not in charge for long time. He in charge of scan pyramids project and some other archaeology stuff

[@MagicRing]

The entire planet is riddled with ancient tunnels. 💯

[@efdangotu]

How many must have collapsed over time! Sealed forever, or randomly discovered.

[@OGPatriot03]

​@@efdangotu Good point, imagine all the possible undiscovered underground networks/cities like that one in Turkey. I'd imagine with no accessible entrances any longer.. Just under the ground somewhere.

[@alexsetterington3142]

Several in Turkey more than one

[@GarrisonFall]

​@efdangotu The prehistoric paintings on the walls of the cave in Lascaux were preserved because the entrance collapsed close to the time it was being used. It was only tens of thousands of years later that some boys accidentally discovered another, vertical entrance to the caves and the preserved paintings.

[@edgarsnake2857]

fascinating. Thanks, Matt.

[@bensargeant7729]

Great video man!

[@xuxonpic]

I wonder if there is a giant snake up in that tunnel system?! I remember the explorers mentioning hearing something big sliding on the dirt when they were crawling deep into the system.

[@360ODYSY]

You have the entrance that is the tomb but the cave itself is known as kahf el ghanash meaning cave of the snake

[@xuxonpic]

@@360ODYSY wow, thank you for enlightening me on that. I really appreciate it. 🙏🏾 crazy, i really hope its down in there somewhere, still keeping guard on the truth! 😃

[@m.pearce3273]

Land of Khem is a fave channel along with your research

[@debbralehrman5957]

I understand about the smell. I've been Carlsbad caverns. And with my daughters 5 grade to any area where Mexican brown bats holdup in water culverts during the Summer. We waited until they flew out for the night. Needless to say the smell was unmistakable. I would say you should wear a breather

[@nickbrough8335]

Bat droppings contain potassium-phosphate-ammonia-calcium compounds (a form of guano). Highly toxic in a Confined space and fill of bat virus’

[@chiron14pl]

Since prehistoric times caves have given humans shelter, and were sources of awe. Both protection and danger, caves evoked strong feelings. The obvious similarity to birth canal adds another layer of awe. How widely the Giza cave system was known and used in antiquity is unclear, but if known, that sense of wonder and fear make it ripe for civilized humans to bury their dead there as in fact took place in dynastic Egypt.

[@dansimpson6844]

This looks a lot like the tomb of king Rootentooten.

[@BaMenace]

I remember when there were underground areas near the sphinx and Egyptian government buried it with sand.. I'm sure it was on this channel years and years ago.. or channel similar

[@Name-ot3xw]

Have we heard much more about that bit of causeway someone found under their house? I recall that tunnel being significant in length but can't find much of it aside from the news stories and a few pictures of tunnel that may or may not be the one we're talking about.

[@marshall9886]

Great video!

[@outcastoffoolgara]

I think it is fair to say that the cave systems even though naturally formed are affiliated with the human architecture as they are the channels of the underworld amd the vens that carry lifes water from the depths. The Aztecs and Mayans before them displayed a similar reverence and consequent architectural response. I see many humans share their fascination to caves, periodic water flows and myths of underworld journeys and creatures and metaphors of human fluid mystery.

[@360ODYSY]

Love you for this, I was in the tomb earlier this week but you really need equipment

[@taaskeprins]

Drones with cameras would do the trick. Not sure about the flight range underground though.

[@calvingifford9442]

Looking forward to the time when Sahi Hawass is out of the picture and this cave, as well as the rest of Egypt, can & will be explored properly.

[@asdfghjsdfgg1841]

Seeing as the cave was worked in someway, it's possible it was abandoned after a natural phenomenon, like an earthquake, that damaged the room or made it unsuitable and so the room was sealed with the bricks. Or whatever purpose a room connected to natural fissures had went out of fashion and the fissures lost their significance.

[@ArthursAtman]

deeply appreciate your investigations

[@od1452]

Wow ! I've never heard of these. Itis interesting that a tomb was made to cover an entrance. ( if I understand it correctly.) Matt , I wish you as a geologist , would look at the colossal statues that lay in parts but were huge single blocks before being carved. Carving them is a mystery in its self , but their size is dumbfounding... how on earth could they be moved ? It would be at least an almost impossible undertaking today. It is easy to look at drawings and say they just pulled sledges.... but if you look at how hard it is to move huge stones today.,... it is almost impossible and had to be impossible then ! But the remains of these huge statues are there in Egypt for anyone to see. . !

[@michaelransom5841]

Just a random idea, but i wonder if the cave system originally opened up into one of these tombs, and the were later modified and turned into temples. Either way, I could imagine a scenario where this cave system, if accessible, could have been associated with an "underworld" or "land of the dead" by ancient Egyptians, and considering how far into cave systems we have found paleolithic art, it is not inconceivable that the ancient Egyptians knew the path of this cave as it travelled below the Giza plateau. This also makes me wonder if they were perhaps tryin to connect with this cave system when they dug the descending passage in the great pyramid... not a far cry given that it is over 300 feet long.. quite the undertaking... this is all speculation mind you, but it seems at least plausible.

[@dragonmomma7145]

Looks like a natural cave with a rough cut step entrance. It’s confirmation of the amazing world we live in… can’t help but wonder how much more is fissured under the plateau (that could have maybe even been connected once upon a time?) There is so much we know yet don’t know too.

[@sagresnaw]

real question about the places that are sealed shut with a steel bar door, why hasn't anyone taken an RC car or drone and put it through the openings of the door and explored?

[@errolfoster1101]

What is all the blue rocks or is it from your leds and there seems a lot of clear deposits on the ceilings and walls

[@Ruthdawg420]

Another great video🎉

[@matteotomaso7204]

The ridges look like the lower chamber. They way they have excavated the floor and it is raised also.

[@RichardGoth]

Salt and Caviglia entering those hyaena infested caves with nothing but candlelight...amazing courage!

[@arminmir9179]

20:56, those ridges reminded me of the subterranean chamber of the great pyramid!

[@jonnywatts2970]

Omg I almost watched an uncharted x video. Nice palat cleanse here.

[@Stiglitz71]

The tomb of the birds is located exactly 90° west of the GP at about 864 meter (2835 ft) of the GP's center. It's 123° from Khafre's pyramid at a distance of 646 meter (2120 ft). Probably means nothing.

[@Za7a7aZ]

Nice that Collings managed to name a cave to his liking..would be nice to discover a neatly dressed room with granite walls and the advanced tools we are missing in the archeological archive .

[@user-mp3eq6ir5b]

Reminds me of the older mine tunnels in the town in Southern Arizona where I grew up. Some of the shorter tunnels had: Flies, Bats and Javelinas, the last 2 would leave quickly as you went in. Near the center of the mine complex the tunnels were more connected with vertical shafts for dumping ore to a collection level. There were places where aqua colored flowstone covered large areas of floor and sinkholes leading down to collapsed rubble.

[@flamencoprof]

21:00 A kind of rough but formed shape/s reminiscent of the subterranean chamber of the Great Pyramid.

[@vikeslax28]

Good catch. It looks almost identical...

[@dougg1075]

Super fascinating.

[@CatherineInFlorida]

Which water can be "mineral rich"? Salt water or fresh water or both? Does this mean it was flooded at one point?

[@blindesquirrel]

Perhaps you could collaborate with the @ActionAdventureTwins and visit Giza and the Tomb of the Birds. It would be an epic adventure. 👍Stay Awesome! Best…

[@syjwg]

If it's looking natural, it's probably is.

[@AncientArchitects]

Yeah, def natural

[@hughaskew6550]

Bats don't "infest" caves, bats inhabit them.

[@analiviaminsk1171]

Maybe bat experts made some kind of research down there? That would be intersting

[@cornelbebie7400]

@@LadyBits2023 They are animals who find a natural habitat that suits them. It may not suit you. But you are not the center of the universe. Luckily...

[@nickbrough8335]

Given the cliff setting, when go back c 8,000+ years and Egypt and Sudan were wet savannah climates, the water would probably appeared as a spring at the base of the cliff.

[@matt-yh4ho]

When I went to temple of Hatshepsut my tour guide said their are caves on the side of the temple that big business scientology people pay big money to go and see the particular paintings and hieroglyphics, never saw or heard anything about it on the internet though

[@agentxyz]

Khufu's Restaurant -- i never realized he also built this

[@cipherhost]

Awesome, as usual!

[@rogerdudra178]

Damn good geology you found there.

[@andrewvoros4037]

One question is: where are the bats getting out? Are they sen blowing out through the main entrance shown, or somewhere else. It would be fairly easy to spot with a number of observers at nightfall.

[@Hollandsemum2]

That doorway looks awfully rough for a deliberate entrance.

[@seabeepirate]

How probable is it that the cave had water running through it when the monuments were built?

[@stevevasell429]

Here from ancient architects. I'll check out what you've got.

[@PatchouliPenny]

This is Ancient Architects

[@stephenbrewins3689]

I don’t want to state the obvious but i don’t think having permission to be in there is gunna change anything if there’s an earthquake.i think the outcome is very likely to be the same but interesting video.thanks my man.

[@alexsetterington3142]

If someone is trapped by cave in they might appreciate someone knowing where they are

[@stephenbrewins3689]

@@alexsetterington3142 I’m saying that having permission to go in won’t change anything.you can still have people knowing where you are without permission.

[@whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Very odd texture on the surface of the limestone within the caves. My guess is it's efflorescence mineralization and not precipitated. Cave sediments are often scientifically useful for many reasons. They should be studied by geologists with an archeologist tagging along rather than the other way around.

[@weeroger7048]

I said on history of granites video They need to drill a hole throughout the whole pyrimad similar to finding at quartz sand thon time

[@fibodegjenn4411]

Looks like the chamber behind the wall had its wall collapse and revealing the natural cave behind it. After the collapse the broken chamber was sealed off.

[@18Macallan]

Thank you sir!👍

[@c4c4cr0773]

I doubt these were used by humans at some point. They look really unpleasant to explore and I would expect to see more work to adapt the cave (stairs, clearing passage) if this was the case. However, there is the possibility that people from the past also explored this for fun and might have left really random artefacts. Old cave can also be goldmines for paleontolgy as bones from extinct animals can sometimes be found there. If we want to speculate, we can also suppose that the cave system might be connected accidentally to other tombs, but chances are slim.

[@alanablythe]

interesting

[@TheDemonation13]

very cool ty

[@bunsonhoneydew9099]

I bet one of those dog robots with a camera would be cool to explore this tunnel

[@kody9508]

I've enjoyed your channel til now even if it has pushed certain views which I disagree with. But I would love to know why Giza Labyrinth pops up in text at the beginning of this video and then you proceed to show and talk about natural cave systems. I really encourage people to do a quick search on the enigma that the Labyrinth actually is written by ancient historians who actually saw it. There was nothing natural about it and it's grandeur rivaled even that of the great pyramids.

[@tomlindsay4629]

It almost reminds me of the cave system beneath the Pyramid of The Sun at Teotihuacan...almost. Caves are holy to people throughout time and all over the world, so no surprise, honestly. Thanks for posting!

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

WHEN KING TUT SAID THIS TOMB IS FOR THE BIRDS HE WASN'T JOKING ! 😂🤣😂

[@GarrisonFall]

Would the cave entrances have been under water when the Nile ran closer to where the pyramids were built? That might limit how old the caves are. I'm surprised that the entrances and easily accessible portions of the cave system have not been excavated properly. Like other religions, the beliefs of the ancient Egyptians would have slowly developed over time from primitive beginnings. The natural cave system may have influenced the first stories of Afterlife and the Underworld, and the tunnels became shrines to this mythology. 'Priests' or 'shamans' may have ventured further in to conduct rituals or leave paintings on the cave walls, like those of France and Spain. Any serious caver would follow the tunnels as far as they lead. There could be evidence of humans from a time much older than the pyramids. I don't understand how Hawas can ignore these possibilities, leaving the caves to fill with trash and rubble.

[@AndyBennett]

It seems like the whole Giza Plateau feels artificial, its somewhat overlooked that at one point the entire area was covered in 3 foot thick basalt polygonal masonry and the ancient saying of 'As Above So Below' has more meaning then just words and not necessarily meaning stars and Earth. Could it not just as easily be ground and underground. The Osirus shaft is amazing and they now know where the Maze of Hawara is via GPR. I believe there is so much more that is known and not shared or simply just not found yet. The Egyptians have a history like no other culture as their story starts with "we are a legacy civilisation of a much grander Culture", maybe why the early Pharaoh's made journeys/pilgrimage to the Sahara but were they trying to find something or looking for something. To go to the trouble and expense of building water stations all the way from Memphis to the Sahara, its quite the journey. The only thing i hope is when we get a 'new' set of people in charge of Egyptian archaeology they are a little more open minded and less aggressive about dating things, there is no shame in saying "we can confirm the first part of the Kings list but cannot at this stage confirm anything further". Instead of the first part is correct, the rest they made up - just how do they know that? The simple answer is they don't. Iv'e just published a book titled 'The 4th Age of Man' which talks a lot about prehistory and how cataclysms could not only break a civilisation but separate the survivors into smaller groups with less knowledge. Only Oral Traditions continue of what was, the flood for instance is a story over 400 cultures have stories about. A lost advanced civilisation is another Worldwide oral tradition and i believe its these traditions that are window on prehistory as we know the written word has been changed for religious, propergander, financial, legitimising a usurper and the list goes on where oral traditions are harder to change as we would have heard them from childhood to adulthood and the lessons of campfire stories is the same as our internet, information.

[@whartonoutdoors7493]

We'll never know. Hawass isn't going to spend time there. The initial csve has had plenty of collapses, and exhibits tool marks on its walls, who is to say the collapses don't cover entrances and artifacts.

[@QuinnMallory-od1hw]

It's not a coincidence that there are voids under the pyramids, obviously they were sacred places the Pharaohs want to themselves. Maybe water wells symbolic of life.

[@MrPenguln]

ancient high technology baby :)

[@bezubz5831]

You would think that they would have at least taken a photo! The Egyptians had the first camera. Pinhole camera.

[@Jyskall]

Could be that those tunnels where way more accessable tousands of years ago and become history/tales/religion to the later generations. So they started to build them by them self, to achieve something similar. Big Caverns with underground rivers, or those one full of mega crystals found in southamerica. We are still today fascinated by all those buildings and stories that could be more... why not the same 3000-4000 years ago.

[@lostpony4885]

Send the Action Adventure Twins they will find its deepest reaches

[@OLD2NEWCREW]

Nice one Robin 😂