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In this episode, former police officer James Bannon sat down this us to share his story of infiltrating a British football hooligan firm. James spent two and a half years undercover with the infamous hooligans of London-based football team Millwall, during the height of football violence in England in the late 1980s.
James' story was adapted into the 1995 film 'I.D.'
Warning: this episode contains content you may find distressing.
We speak to people with a unique life story to tell. From a North Korea escapee to an undercover cop, a Cold War spy to a shipwreck survivor. Hosted by LADbible's Ben-Powell Jones, this series is a window into remarkable experiences - with stories that paint a picture of extraordinary lives.
With thanks to James Bannon for taking part.
James' book is available here - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...
James' Twitter - / runningwiththef
Host: Ben Powell-Jones, Twitter: @BenPowellJones
00:00 - 00:55 - Intro
00:55 - 06:18 - Early Police Career
06:18 - 20:01 - Going Undercover
20:01 - 26:10 - Joining Millwall's Inner Circle
26:10 - 31:31 - Most Dangerous Moment
31:31 - 36:22 - Cover Nearly Being Blown
36:22 - 41:49 - Life Undercover
41:49 - 47:57 - Abrupt End to the Operation
47:57 - 51:02 - Life After The Police
51:02 - 55:20 - I.D. Film
55:20 - 56:52 - Life Lesson
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@LADbible
@LADbible Жыл бұрын
With thanks to James Bannon for taking part. James' book is available here - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CZ7OBO2/ James' Twitter - twitter.com/runningwiththef
@gazaroo1865
@gazaroo1865 Жыл бұрын
Piiiig shiiiiiiiit
@matthewnorman2475
@matthewnorman2475 11 ай бұрын
Kkyikffk
@matthewnorman2475
@matthewnorman2475 11 ай бұрын
68j88y
@martinmcguire9974
@martinmcguire9974 Жыл бұрын
I find it impossible to digest how the courts will jail a football hooligan for up to 7 years for fighting with men who also want to fight but give 18 month sentences to predators who harm innocent children
@-j308
@-j308 Жыл бұрын
I've never understood the concept of that part either. Someone gets out their motor and comes towards you, they've given consent to a fight. You get out, you've also given consent to a fight. Suddenly you're charged with all sorts of shit. Fighting is one of the most natural and primal things we do.
@christophershiels786
@christophershiels786 Жыл бұрын
​@@-j308 a lot of the judges are pedoes
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, the sentencing and conviction rates are appalling for sex offences in the UK, on another point sometimes a fellas getting out the car to de-escalate a situation not necessarily to fight!
@-j308
@-j308 Жыл бұрын
@@mrnice7570 I can honestly suggest not to do this. Maybe up north you can swing it, but in London getting out of your car during a road rage incident is an invitation, at this moment you have an option as the driver who is last out, stay put and be hit in your seat/be at a serious disadvantage or get out now. If both of you are out of the car, just to have a little shouting match, why bother embarrassing yourself? Not once have I ever thought someone jumping out of their car during road rage could possibly be to de-escalate the situation. Could be I'm the problem though 🤷
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
@@-j308 could be that having a mindset that believes posturing and violence is a good method of conflict resolution is the problem after all. When did rational human beings stop being rational at least in the initial stage of any form of incident. Weakness reacts. Strength seeks at least at first to understand
@lancerooney3398
@lancerooney3398 11 ай бұрын
This guy’s a good interviewer, asking follow up questions that get deeper into the issue. 👏👏👏👏
@ericsonofjohn9384
@ericsonofjohn9384 10 ай бұрын
What other kind of questions are there?
@user-py2tm3lx6m
@user-py2tm3lx6m 9 ай бұрын
Agree. I've seen other you tubers miss great opportunities to delve. He's very smart and interesting to watch.
@Neecola88
@Neecola88 10 ай бұрын
"I wouldn't wanna be you when Jim finds out" is one of the best podcast moments I have seen. And I watched a lot of those. I am so glad I watched the whole interview. You folks are doing amazing work! Keep it up
@pcraig1991
@pcraig1991 8 ай бұрын
GUMBO - If you know, you know 😉
@deanalfonzo
@deanalfonzo Ай бұрын
@@pcraig1991”wait till John hears this”
@rorrt
@rorrt Жыл бұрын
The way he says "yeaaaaah.. but it was Arsenal away.." Absolutely great interview.
@gossipmongersaunt774
@gossipmongersaunt774 Жыл бұрын
This bloke gives off vibes that deep down he actually enjoyed his time being a hooligan and being undercover was a free pass
@djspark191
@djspark191 11 ай бұрын
I read his book and can confirm he definitely seemed to love it!
@ericsonofjohn9384
@ericsonofjohn9384 10 ай бұрын
In what way
@Epiccampingninja
@Epiccampingninja 10 ай бұрын
Read the book and he will tell you just that
@davidmartin790
@davidmartin790 10 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't enjoy it ?
@Jimmy_Cooper
@Jimmy_Cooper 10 ай бұрын
Watch the film ID . It’s based on his book and based on his character you’ll see how much he apparently enjoyed it
@jamesmullarkey3667
@jamesmullarkey3667 6 ай бұрын
I knew an Everton fan who moved to London to join the Met he was a thug he hated West Ham cos they beat us in the FAC semi final in 1980. He got a massive buzz being at Upton Park on duty beating up the fans. He was the biggest football hooligan I ever knew
@kurtfletcher9161
@kurtfletcher9161 Жыл бұрын
"Trev & John...painter & decorators"
@ter3360
@ter3360 Жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@johnknowles4131
@johnknowles4131 Жыл бұрын
Not being born till 88 I actually by chance came across the book before the film. Found it at work shifting through papers in a newspaper recycling plant. Saw the cover thought it looked interesting, took it home and read it, loved it. I’m not a huge book reader usually but I’d definitely recommend, it’s pretty much how it is this interview. Very blunt tone to the book and very descriptive to the point where you can imagine yourself there with him. Also what I like about the book is he doesn’t hold back on what he thought and felt at each point. It’s a refreshingly very frank account of a story. There were one or two other things in the book that I found equally interesting that weren’t mentioned in this interview like the effect of the intensity and complexity of his double life had on his relationship with his mrs and also when he started getting close to one of the barmaids whilst undercover and having to keep up the pretence of being James the hooligan. It’s a good read and I would definitely recommend. Still not seen the film but know it’s called ID. Actually bought it and started watching it once. Couldn’t really get into the film though tbh but I know a lot of people like it
@DJJosheen
@DJJosheen 5 ай бұрын
Just watched all of it ,bravo, thank you
@db0800
@db0800 3 ай бұрын
Jim's book is top class. He really captures the pain he felt deceiving people he came to consider as friends. It does have me thinking did Millwall allow him in knowing he would become addicted? No other undercover team got as deep as his team did.
@Geezah1
@Geezah1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing interview...
@InkyBizzo
@InkyBizzo 10 ай бұрын
Great interview. Loved the part about not being able to read or write... brilliant 😂
@zsutton6687
@zsutton6687 10 ай бұрын
I love how this man conducts the interviews. So many hosts overtalk, cutoff, or dont let the guest fully expand upon a single thought. The best interviews just flow and the guest can just expand on a single thought or story before moving on to the next question. He leads the guest thrn backs off, then hops in with a reaction or new question. Far to often these hosts will ask 1 thing then cut the guest off and ask something else before the gues can truly expand upon the initial thought
@andrewbiggins9404
@andrewbiggins9404 Жыл бұрын
Great interview on a fascinating subject. Those of us alive today who grew up in relative affluence forget that, for people that grew up in poor working class environments, violence was part of their lives. Most didn't go looking for it but wouldn't back down if challenged. Modern day men have had that civilised out of us but that natural instinct still lurks underneath.
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle
@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Жыл бұрын
It's gone from some. Not all, by a long way.
@leccy9901
@leccy9901 Жыл бұрын
You're living on a different planet if you think that has gone. Violence is very much a part of life for many.
@angie-smart-but-casual
@angie-smart-but-casual Жыл бұрын
Just a quickish run down.. In one smallish Firm A Brickie, Stonemason, Undertaker, Counsellor, Accountant, physiotherapist, Registrar, Dentist, Shop Owner, Shop Workers, Restaurant Owner, Chef, Publican, Teachers, Wedding Photographer, Indie Musician, Indie Band Kennels Owner Recording Studios Owner Authors Miners Just a Snap Shot of Working Class 1980 - 1990 Great Britain Hardly Thatchers Working Class Britain Something else Thatcher and The Police 'Force being the operative word' Forces. up and down the land got so badly wrong..and are still who will they blame the next thing wrong ?
@DiggaDan
@DiggaDan 8 ай бұрын
I've been listening to these at work almost every day since last week and they are brilliant! However Ben the interviewer is so beautifully nieve he adds comedy value to this.
@nme9879
@nme9879 5 ай бұрын
Wish I had a job like yours 😂 only a joke m8
@mickythemack4558
@mickythemack4558 Жыл бұрын
I thought ID was a fictional film based on hooligans! Cracking movie too
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
I fucking love you Gumbo
@angie-smart-but-casual
@angie-smart-but-casual Ай бұрын
I knew it was real but how did they get the clothing so wrong ud think it was fantasy
@elizabethedwards3607
@elizabethedwards3607 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this interview, and James seems like a really chilled guy after everything he has experienced
@gazaroo1865
@gazaroo1865 Жыл бұрын
He's chilled from watching a certain film back in the day! Jackanory at its best 😂
@pablodavies414
@pablodavies414 Жыл бұрын
Love the Lomg form interviews ❤
@CarlM96
@CarlM96 Жыл бұрын
I really like James' interviews but I'm constantly hoping he tells some other stories that are different from the palace fan on the train and being in the arsenal north bank. I know they're highlights but I think a second part or something would be great and would probably end up with stories that haven't been told before. Another great interview though regardless, he's fascinating.
@judgedmagician
@judgedmagician Жыл бұрын
So this is the guys they made the film ID about. 😁 "He can't read or write and you're accusing him of being old bill?!" Genius!
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
And the black player bit is in ID Shadwell army lol x
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
You cant read or write how did you become a police officer. He made it up for cover. Oh oh lol Wally pmsl x
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
I fucking love you Gumbo
@swfcocs1
@swfcocs1 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the story of the crystal palace fan, attacking normal fans was seen as well against the rules, it proved nothing, brought unnecessary attention and was really frowned upon and seen as bullying
@endlessnameless6628
@endlessnameless6628 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you never touch the scarfers
@indieladylove
@indieladylove Жыл бұрын
no matter what the undercover cop said about this incident, he is a piece of shit. dont ever justify that shit with your cover.
@mdg1867
@mdg1867 Жыл бұрын
Showed to me that the officer hadn't done his research. He should have known that this is an important rule and he could have stepped in without it looking suspicious.
@sulphuric_glue4468
@sulphuric_glue4468 9 ай бұрын
@@mdg1867 But at the same time are you really gonna stand up to a crazy cunt who just socked a random innocent guy in the face in front of his family
@swfcocs1
@swfcocs1 Жыл бұрын
I encountered uncovers in my late 80s time in that life, certainly the ones I met were 100% committed (or alternatively just loved it) they got fully involved in incidents in every way
@AKAtAGG
@AKAtAGG Жыл бұрын
same for me but in the 90s. they were as part of it as we were. and then sat in court explaining how bad the people they were alongside were. they were just as bad. they had to be or we'd've known they were OB.
@redflag8970
@redflag8970 Жыл бұрын
Whilst trying to get you nicked after standing side by side.
@AKAtAGG
@AKAtAGG Жыл бұрын
@@redflag8970 yeah you know it, absolute mugs all of them
@hotdiggityd
@hotdiggityd Жыл бұрын
Interesting listening to him talk, how he's naturally quite cautious with information. I don't think he's being intentionally difficult, it's just how he's wired. Effective for the job he did I'm sure.
@chadgazi9454
@chadgazi9454 10 ай бұрын
Clever fella 🙏🏽 great stories.....have you written a book? I'd buy it
@Millwall77
@Millwall77 8 ай бұрын
It's called Running with the firm, released in 2013 as stated in the description.
@chadgazi9454
@chadgazi9454 8 ай бұрын
@@Millwall77 Ah, I think I've heard of it...I'm in my last year of university doing a BA in creative and professional writing 🙏🏽 mature student who never did school...wish me luck..I'll buy your book ✌🏽
@andycattle5033
@andycattle5033 Жыл бұрын
I was in crowd at Bradford city when they filmed the arrest on pitch side. Got told over the tannoy the shout abuse at him 😂
@shane-oshaunason7590
@shane-oshaunason7590 11 ай бұрын
Oh this is what ID’s based on. Fair play!
@JimmyHammer
@JimmyHammer 10 ай бұрын
I never knew this either. First watched the film in the late 1990's and only just found out! 🤣
@mrbbqcraig
@mrbbqcraig 8 ай бұрын
I worked in a pub in Piccadilly during the height of hooliganism in England. In walk a bunch of guys, rowdy and hyped up for the match. A couple of them wearing long jackets. During the time they were there I saw them showing each other the "weapons" they had brought with them.... I'll never forget seeing one guy with a broom handle, cut down to about 30cm with nails sticking out of it.... unreal ❗❗
@forbesy33
@forbesy33 Жыл бұрын
I think they did a film on this called ID in the 90s. Shadwell town so not to name Millwall, pub landlord same back story, great movie.
@OfftheRecord2021
@OfftheRecord2021 Жыл бұрын
Intense, Revealing, Eye-Opening. Really inspiring story!
@pollardmark
@pollardmark 2 ай бұрын
ID.. Great Film :-)
@clarecadman5330
@clarecadman5330 Жыл бұрын
What a career path to take…. It’s crazy really 😮
@thenorco75
@thenorco75 11 ай бұрын
I getting the vibes of the film I.D.
@wwg1wgabazza536
@wwg1wgabazza536 Жыл бұрын
I lived in and around the den in a tower block called archer tower. Loved my childhood round there and going to childerek school. Yes I’m a millwall fan 💯❤️
@SherrieBarrett-nv4uv
@SherrieBarrett-nv4uv 10 ай бұрын
One of the best films.
@elvislad
@elvislad Жыл бұрын
The thing they saw in him was youth,no one is going to suspect a 19 year old as an undercover cop
@getur99
@getur99 Жыл бұрын
Most probation coppers will be just out of college ie 18/19. So yes they saw youth but other characteristics as well
@chebbiepc
@chebbiepc Жыл бұрын
ID, quality film . As he was talking I was thinking.of the film. Mad how its based on real life. If you haven't seen it you must..
@alanknight7630
@alanknight7630 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant story, the book was a fantastic read, Jim must have ball's the size of King kongs
@LikeWeDidOutdoors
@LikeWeDidOutdoors Жыл бұрын
ID! Down to the "can't read" story! Interesting seeing this
@aperson7584
@aperson7584 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe almost nobody in the comments seems to know this ...
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for you true story mucka fing heck iit is very intresting thats for sure. I just couldnt do what you done as I just cant and wont lie.
@BigDaz1882
@BigDaz1882 Жыл бұрын
He looks like Matt Pritchard from Dirty Sanchez
@87mrreynolds
@87mrreynolds Жыл бұрын
I never even realise that the film ID was a true story mostly anyway.I fucking love you gumbo 😂
@highdefinitionstanleytm9614
@highdefinitionstanleytm9614 Жыл бұрын
Just stay away from the sequal as its shit.
@SexyGuv77
@SexyGuv77 Жыл бұрын
​@@kermitfrog76ify Same! I'm questioning this guys authenticity...
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha fing love you gumbo. I only just watched ID again the other day. Brilliant movie that ID. The film is on you tube some one down loaded it.
@SexyGuv77
@SexyGuv77 Жыл бұрын
@@scottandrewhorne4655 Another good film was The Firm with Gary Oldman. YETIIIIIIII!!!!!!!
@smartscratcheastmidlands6589
@smartscratcheastmidlands6589 Жыл бұрын
@@SexyGuv77 Fighting scenes are rubbish
@therainbowhippy
@therainbowhippy 4 ай бұрын
I work as security and when millwall are playing they double the police and security 😂
@lukerobertson5201
@lukerobertson5201 Жыл бұрын
Your stories are very similar to scenes in the film I.D from 1995 like the decorating story and also the snooker game story about reading and writing
@nickvaughan8100
@nickvaughan8100 Жыл бұрын
His story base of the film.
@TheMedic-
@TheMedic- Жыл бұрын
Half way through I was thinking this sounds like ID.... then later on the penny downs.. brave man at his age and to see the film was based on this man ... wow
@gossipmongersaunt774
@gossipmongersaunt774 Жыл бұрын
Penny drops
@TheMedic-
@TheMedic- Жыл бұрын
@@gossipmongersaunt774 chees bro.. thought i did write that .....maybe predictive text kicked in.. Cracking film , even better its a true story
@jordanmcdonald7990
@jordanmcdonald7990 Жыл бұрын
"I'm going to make sure I do something that nobody tells me what I can't do, hmmm.... I'll become an actor" 🙈🤣
@y_not
@y_not Жыл бұрын
This bloke is a tough interview!
@somisak
@somisak Жыл бұрын
Ex police 😂
@greybouquet03
@greybouquet03 Жыл бұрын
Ex undercover police at that.
@y_not
@y_not 11 ай бұрын
@@greybouquet03 True
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
Brother you were in it come on mucka. Gumbo you have blossomed mate pmsl. i cant believe the change in you mucka lol. I fing love you Gumbo pmsl x Good On You Mucka you seem a Good Un. God Bless You James Amen xxxxxxx And God Bless Your Earthly Life Time And Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx
@simonbailey7082
@simonbailey7082 Жыл бұрын
They made a film about this, called I'd, brilliant hooligan film👍
@asedition8847
@asedition8847 Жыл бұрын
There is something about this that’s really depressing and explains a lot of the reasons why the met is in the mess it is…..depressing
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Жыл бұрын
No mate not at all the met is in the shit it is in because they have EMPLOYED a load of Cs ok with no respect no moral compass and are all about their ego and ego is controlled by the devil and they are all about the pension fund.
@bidvision
@bidvision Жыл бұрын
I've loved that film since I first saw it in the late 1990s. Only today did I find out that it was based on real people!
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
ID, Shadwell Army , one Terry Edwards, there's only one Terry Edwards 😂
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
The Kennel is our place!!
@SUPERLEEDSYRA
@SUPERLEEDSYRA 10 ай бұрын
We are Shadwell, The Kenell is our place, Shadwell never, ever, ever, shall lose face!
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 10 ай бұрын
I fackinh love you Gumbo
@dublinsfaircity
@dublinsfaircity 6 ай бұрын
Very loosely
@GG-jw8pt
@GG-jw8pt 5 ай бұрын
If only they put that much effort, time and money into stopping grooming gangs and drug pushers. Just another way of hiding from real work (crime) and far less dangerous.
@ricksterk7014
@ricksterk7014 10 ай бұрын
'Got elevated' a cop😂
@liloleme74
@liloleme74 Жыл бұрын
'It ain`t my blood, it`s someone else`s'!!
@NeWayMan70
@NeWayMan70 Жыл бұрын
Question: what makes this guy better or different than the hooligans he was trying to infiltrate, if he was doing the same things they were?
@hotdiggityd
@hotdiggityd Жыл бұрын
He was gathering intelligence with a view to arresting them
@jilewa
@jilewa 4 ай бұрын
Its fascinating to watch these two trying to communicate across the generation gap. Bannon doesn’t give much away in his answers, maybe because he assumes things should be obvious, or maybe he’s reluctant to spell it all out for the kid. It feels awkward but makes the interviewer pry for explanations, so we lean in for more. Bannon’s generation honed a different set of skills to survive in a world younger people can only imagine, relying on memory and wit to be accepted socially, having awareness of your surroundings without mobile technology and surveillance, no procedures manual or OH&S built into every part of our lives.. The self reliance, the attitude that if no one else is showing me, I’d better figure it out for myself.
@thehappywerewolf
@thehappywerewolf 11 ай бұрын
What I about school vs school in the 80s 1k against 1k. The good thing is that many people fighting you get hit maybe 10 time's if that.
@paullangton-rogers2390
@paullangton-rogers2390 2 күн бұрын
40:40 where James is asked whether he told his 'friends and best mates' whether he was an uncover football hooligan, his body language reveals he's either very uncomfortable or lying in answering the question. Notice how he strokes the back of his neck, looks upwards and eyes darting rapidly from right to left, blushes slightly and there's a long pause and an 'errrm' before he answers...he's filling an uncomfortable gap with non-verbal communication body language. In psychology of body language where a person gives away subconscious non-verbal communication like this it can often be a tell sign someone isn't being entirely honest with themselves or the person they're speaking to. Touching the face, hair, and back stroking like he does here are a classic tell-tale sign (where that's not seen consistently or often when someone is talking, ie a sudden deviation from baseline). It's nearly always a subconscious form of self-reassurance before or during a lie. All through answering that question you see further self-reassuring signs, stroking back of his leg, his knee, and some shifting around in his seat. I'm not saying James was deliberately lying or being honest, but he certainly wasn't at all comfortable with that question and doesn't know how to answer it. Perhaps because when your life is based around a lie and deception, it's difficult to remember who you told what to and he's put on the spot with that question and can't give a definitive answer as he probably had to compartmentalise his life into friends he could tell and friends he couldn't and had to lie to. And he maybe feels bad for lying to some of his friends. Even how someone looks upwards (and which direction) tells psychologists whether a person is answering truthfully or dishonestly as we know from how they look which area of the brain is being accessed, whether its present or past memory function accessing.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 21 күн бұрын
"Bit of braver and stuff " , enough said .
@BipoIarbear
@BipoIarbear Жыл бұрын
There's a movie about this movie called "ID" so violent so scary to see that world and the story is quite tame compared to the real story this guy tells
@petethechef188
@petethechef188 4 ай бұрын
This guy literally is the I.D script, wow man
@iangascoyne4274
@iangascoyne4274 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely riveting interview - this guy is awesome I think. ‘ but it’s Arsenal away’ - what a great response 🙃 yes . 15 crazy millwall in the north bank - is the stuff of legend, awesome. Imagine having to pretend to be illiterate for 18 months . Extraordinary. Is there a book ? - I would absolutely get that . Haven’t got to the end yet but wow what a story… I remember what it was like back then , as a teenager 1975 I was 16 - just an ordinary part time football hooligan - there’s something that just pulls you in. I never wanted to hurt anyone - and was no ‘headhunter’ or whatever. That story of the guy on the train with his family is heartbreaking - a cowardly act as he was with his family. I was young and am not now, what I was then. Peace 🕉️ 💙
@thedarkdirectory6331
@thedarkdirectory6331 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the film I.D. Shadwell army
@Conorguill
@Conorguill 5 ай бұрын
Did James get any writing/development payment for ID?
@Trev794
@Trev794 2 ай бұрын
well i was almost convinced until the waffle but taking the home end at highbury...
@nickyredfern5481
@nickyredfern5481 10 ай бұрын
This guy is describing scenes & situations, similar to those in the film I.D., with Reece Dinsdale and Warren Clarke. Anybody noticed??
@Millwall77
@Millwall77 8 ай бұрын
Yea, that might have something to do with that the movie is based on his life....
@panamajack8055
@panamajack8055 3 ай бұрын
@@Millwall77😂
@DJJosheen
@DJJosheen 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to ask Jim, if he saw Britains club culture and house music saw a quelling of football hooliganism for a time in the early to late 90s ? I believe Jim has irish roots , Bannon , either Longford ,Cavan or middle to border area of Ireland, ......he is a decent bloke , i have good time for his character ,apologies if i doubted the content ...and/or its sources
@grahamhiggins1816
@grahamhiggins1816 2 ай бұрын
rolls along nice. (He does look a bit like Harry Enfield in disguise though.)
@kierankicks
@kierankicks 3 ай бұрын
Someone's been watching I.d
@gavinbutler5677
@gavinbutler5677 Жыл бұрын
Book is a lot better than movie
@dingdong4945
@dingdong4945 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the film ID
@QQ_241
@QQ_241 10 ай бұрын
That part about not being able to read or write is part of the plot to ID. That's a bit odd. 1995 British film about exactly what this guy is talking about. Infiltrating football hooliganism undercover. Oh, wrote that before the last few minutes. Turns out I am right!!
@noneoftheabove6615
@noneoftheabove6615 Ай бұрын
You're going down regardless of the result today. 😂😂😂
@philjoyce6667
@philjoyce6667 Жыл бұрын
this is the film I.D.
@jamesbowry2192
@jamesbowry2192 11 ай бұрын
The story he told about not being able to read an write was a seen in a football hooligan film id
@johntrek187
@johntrek187 Жыл бұрын
What is a hooligan? I'm from the states and I just can't wrap my mind around a violent group of people, conducting themselves essentially as a gang but based around a football team? Are they more than just violent drunks? Like deal drugs, do break ins, illegal gambling? What makes someone a hooligan? Thx for any answers.
@mikeb2575
@mikeb2575 Жыл бұрын
A hooligan or firm is a group of men who support the same football team and fight with other firms from other football teams, they do it for fun and the kudos of getting one over on the opposition. Try googling the ICF or Inter City Firm which was West Ham's firm, they got their name from the train that took them to the away matches i.e. Inter City Train. Their normally quite organised and wear designer clothes like Burberry, they love a drink and a snort of cocaine and just love fighting at the weekend. Look out for a film called 'Football Factory'. I hope this helps ?
@ItsAdam223
@ItsAdam223 Жыл бұрын
A violent troublemaker.
@DanEFresh100
@DanEFresh100 Жыл бұрын
Violent drunks is exactly what they were/are.They are doing it "just for the crack"! There maybe criminal elements but they will also be hard working, 9 to 5 blokes who "have a tear up" at the weekend". It's a tribal thing. Hope that helps! I've left in the hooligan colloquialism for you to Google for translation 😃
@angusyule4619
@angusyule4619 Жыл бұрын
Group of regular lads generally all from around the area where the club is. Probably have regular trade or 9-5 jobs in week and just go to the football together get drunk and if they bump into the other group like this from the other team probably have a punch up😂 Some of them might be up to no good in the week n some of them will be chill people generally. It’s just like a day out going across the country with your mates. Generally try and avoid trouble with people not there for the same reasons as them but there’s always a few who don’t follow that (like in here the guy attacking the civilian Crystal Palace fan)
@samhandwhich743
@samhandwhich743 Жыл бұрын
A hooligan is a "soccer" fan with a very low level of intellect. They struggle with life in general and have very little interest in anything else other than drinking lots of alcohol and fighting each other and then boasting about it. Absolutely tragic to be honest.
@iandodrill138
@iandodrill138 Ай бұрын
Watch the film ,I'd, great film,this sounds like it could of being based on this man,so worth watching
@markedwards6707
@markedwards6707 Жыл бұрын
His story sound's like the film id
@markgreet3543
@markgreet3543 Жыл бұрын
Based on id film which is brilliant.
@endlessnameless6628
@endlessnameless6628 Жыл бұрын
That is the least copper like copper I have ever seen. If you told me he was a former top boy at Millwall in the 80's? Id absolutely fuckin believe it. Without a moments hesitation.
@angie-smart-but-casual
@angie-smart-but-casual Жыл бұрын
Pmsl
@declanshanahan3888
@declanshanahan3888 11 ай бұрын
He wasn't a top boy ever. Not really known at all.
@endlessnameless6628
@endlessnameless6628 11 ай бұрын
@@declanshanahan3888 well no cause he was a copper😂
@sajmeister
@sajmeister Жыл бұрын
The original John Brandon (Reece Dinsdale) from ID (1995) except he never enjoyed the hooliganism
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 10 ай бұрын
So the film I.D. really is based on Mr Bannons life undercover! I never knew the film was a true story!
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 10 ай бұрын
I highly recommend `I.D.` (1995) its a great film about just how dodgy it musta been goin undercover in a group of fight loving hooligans. Listening to this they got the story pretty much spot on (minus the drug abuse id guess)
@mazzgoldie9149
@mazzgoldie9149 Жыл бұрын
Shadwell Army!!!
@businessmonitor6939
@businessmonitor6939 4 ай бұрын
Orpington is not a million miles from New Cross/Millwall territory - amazed the Police would have had the guy go back to driving a police car there.
@bravosierra2447
@bravosierra2447 Жыл бұрын
44:55 “panda car” this is one cultural appropriation that I find very amusing.
@JV-ks3eb
@JV-ks3eb Жыл бұрын
Will the youth of today even know what a panda car is???
@jaynepaige5702
@jaynepaige5702 Жыл бұрын
The older model of the car was originally called Panda.
@tobiaslawrence5199
@tobiaslawrence5199 Жыл бұрын
"Shadwell till I die!"
@mcmechanic8910
@mcmechanic8910 Жыл бұрын
The whole not being able to read and write thing they used in the film ID
@Greg-rv5vm
@Greg-rv5vm 11 ай бұрын
Football hooligans are funny grown men going to football just to go fighting 😂
@CuriosityIgnited
@CuriosityIgnited Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was such an eye-opening interview! I had no idea what it was like to be an undercover cop infiltrating football hooligans. James Bannon is a legend for doing that at such a young age. He must have some crazy stories to tell. I especially liked the part where he said he never went down in a fight, even when he was outnumbered and outmatched. That takes some serious guts and skill. Respect! 👏 This podcast is always delivering amazing content with extraordinary guests. I love how they ask the questions that we all want to know the answers to. Keep up the good work, LADbible! You guys are awesome! 😍 What do you think is the most dangerous situation James Bannon ever faced in his undercover work? Share your thoughts below and let’s have a discussion. 🔥
@s.m280
@s.m280 7 ай бұрын
If you've seen the film ID...everything he just said happens in this
@richardbutterworth228
@richardbutterworth228 10 ай бұрын
the movie i.d was deffo made on this guys story
@danielclee4148
@danielclee4148 Жыл бұрын
This is 100% the film 'I.D.'.
@andyreid350
@andyreid350 11 ай бұрын
We are Shadwell The kennel is our place
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 10 ай бұрын
He looks AND sounds just like Andy Serkis!
@noelht1
@noelht1 11 ай бұрын
He came up against the Whealdstone Raider and quit the job the same day
@somisak
@somisak Жыл бұрын
Wonder if all these years later someone from Millwall recognises him
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 Жыл бұрын
Nah but he'd be recognised down the rock 😂
@SouthEastCashew
@SouthEastCashew Жыл бұрын
Milwall West Ham & the service crew were the naughtiest
@pdowjw
@pdowjw 7 ай бұрын
i’m a wall fan but my dads always said boro and cardiff were naught fuckers
@masontutin1682
@masontutin1682 6 ай бұрын
@@pdowjwyes that’s true mate, boro was very naughty, especially for a Leeds fan going there, Birmingham was naughty too
@iainsmith4130
@iainsmith4130 10 ай бұрын
Hats off to both protagonists - this was a decent joust. Unclear about what exactly man was smoking in the vicinity of those who bolted but that’s nobody’s business anyway. Veitch at his best and other individual (who I won’t gender assume) was quite happy to identify as a Scotsman at the end so alls well that ends well 🥰
@sloopycat1954
@sloopycat1954 Жыл бұрын
are plain clothes detectives in their teens common in United Kingdom, and is 19 years old the youngest age for a plain clothes police officer in United Kingdom I wonder does anyone know please.i wouldn't mind joining the force when I leave school.
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