Underground Part 3 - DCC Shuttle system.

[@standclear502]

I appreciate your interesting & informative model railway content 😎 thankyou for taking the time to create your videos for us all to enjoy 💜

[@cheekytek]

No problem- many thanks for your support 😉 Garry

[@mikewillis9708]

Another fantastic project Garry, absolutely top drawer mate… thanks for sharing!!! 👍🏼

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks Mike..

[@roystudds1944]

Great video. Late to the party on this one I’m afraid but glad I caught up with it. I think the build of the Underground station is fantastic and the detail is incredible. Thanks for sharing your imagination and skill. Roy.

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks Roy. 👍

[@wheezypalacemodels7726]

Wow, once again Gary… 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 excellent modelling and something very different too… You’re skills are amazing mate, cheers, Chris

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks Chris. I just wish I could do better sometimes. but I have that stubborn Oooh that will do attitude until It bugs me to do it again.. Crazy I know. lol Keep well and wishing you all the very best Garry.

[@heritagejunction2184]

Well done Gary ,I love it too, keep up the good work 💪, David

[@cheekytek]

Thanks David.. cheers 👍

[@alansmall9071]

Great video as always love the station build looks great Good to see you well and keeping ok Plenty of tea and cake😉😉😂👍🏻👍🏻

[@cheekytek]

Probably too much tea and cake TBH lol... all is great thanks and cheers for your kind words.. Take care and keep safe as aways. Garry

[@tonyhewitt8924]

Another great video Gary good to hear your in a better place. Take care.

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Tony - yeah all is grand as they say 😁👍 Cheers..

[@turnout999]

Great to see you back..hope all is well..! Regards from Maryville Junction 😎🚒🚒

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Geoff 👍😉 Yeah all is well thanks - hope your all good too buddy..

[@derrickpensom5429]

Great video. Layout looking brilliant. I have 3 Blocksignalling shuttle modules and they work really well

[@cheekytek]

Hi Derrick, Many thanks for the comment. I must say they are a pretty good bit of kit TBH. Certainly something I would use again too.. Thanks again Garry..

[@Walshy196]

Very creative well done

[@cheekytek]

Thank youDavid, Cheers!

[@markcrocker934]

Nice one Garry - glad you are in a good spot. Looking forward to future projects as always. Mark

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Mark.. yeap all is good cheers.. keeping busy and playing trains.. lol Take it easy buddy.. Garry

[@brianrobinson2962]

Great to see you mate and all well.

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Brian.. all is good and well as they say.... 👍😉 Take care mate..

[@dragon-junction-MK2]

Looking good Gary. Works great..

[@cheekytek]

Hi Allen Many Thanks buddy sorry for the delayed reply as I have been busy working for myself now with cheekytek. Hope all is well still love watching your videos - I am the one peeping behind the curtains watching you lol... Keep up all you do Budd. Cheers and all the best Garry.

[@dragon-junction-MK2]

@@cheekytek Your a Top Man.Just stay safe.Hope to see you at Milton Keynes Show.

[@mgzt1]

Hi Garry - underground railway is looking amazing. Like the idea of the cardboard tubing as a tunnel. Glad you’re ok and keeping busy mate. You need to chat - give us a call. Take care buddy Rob 🚂👍

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Rob.. 😊 Very appreciated as always..

[@roberttemple8462]

Ab-fab Gaz, some great ideas there thanks so much for sharing. Great timing too as a work mate has asked me to help on a small layout (8x4). He has a motorized tram that he wants to include and I was thinking of a small town scene above the railway and running the tram on a shuttle along the street and into a scenic break. Glad to hear that life is getting brighter with you, keep it up buddy, all the best, regards Bobby 'T'.

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks Bobby - Oh wow that sounds pretty cool having a tram heading off scene.. hope your build went to plan.. All is good bud so thanks as always.. Look after yourself to mate. All the best Gazza.

[@chicagofleet7427]

Excellent Detail as per usual fantastic work :) Take Care cheers Ian

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Ian..

[@adamkerr4600]

Great video Gary hope ur keeping well mate love watching ur vids say safe happy modelling 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Adam 😉 👍 All is great thanks mate yeap keeping life all in check as they say.. Cheers.. Gazza

[@adamkerr4600]

Great to hear Gary got my mug and t-shirt just need the custard creams mate stay safe happy modeling 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@platformten5958]

Absolutely love this latest project Garry. Terrific modelling and very inventive indeed. But my goodness pal, on the modelling front, you certainly make life hard for yourself. However, having said that, it's certainly very therapeutic, so that can only be a good thing. Maybe you should approach LT and offer your services in the design department. My late friend used to live in the area a long time ago, and he used to watch the GWR Prairie Tanks going back and forth at Old Oak Common. Apparently, he could see them from the bottom of his garden; lucky ol' him! Before I sign off, going back to our previous conversation regarding Ian Allen, I became a member of his so-called club. With membership, I got a 1inch diameter plastic badge. It was white with the club wording forming a circle around the perimeter, and a steam engine printed in the middle. You chose the colour of the wording and picture according to whatever region you were interested in which, in my case, was SR green. Until the next time, take care pal! 👍

[@cheekytek]

Hi Paul, Hope your keeping well my friend.. Many thanks for your comment on the underground section, I do admit I am a bit of a tinkerer when I am building lol, but yeah very therapeutical indeed.. Great back story on Ian Allan and your badge - Hold that badge with pride especially in SR green.. very nice choice..👍 Garry

[@platformten5958]

Hi Garry. Many thanks for your response. Very kind of you to inquire after my health. Much appreciated. Likewise, I hope you are also keeping well. Regarding the Ian Allen badge, unfortunately, that was a long time ago, and after several moves, it vanished along with a few other momentos. That's life I suppose. I've tried to locate one since, but to no avail I'm afraid. I've also lost my Ian Allen Locospotters books with all the numbers of the steam, diesel and electric trains I've observed underlined, but somehow managed to keep the LT buses book. I digress! Do take care Garry and keep the model railway flag flying. Paul.

[@Chris-BognorRegis]

The shuttle service was known as ‘the Ginny’ or the ‘Penny Ginny.’ Apparently it was a corruption of ‘Little Jenny’ which was the original steam railmotor service that operated along the branch. Regards Chris

[@cheekytek]

Oh wow thanks Chris, what a great little tale.. Cheers.. Very appreciated.. Garry

[@nealstrainlayout]

This is great Garry! Really like the Subway line. I am looking to find some London Underground subway cars, but having difficulty locating them. More to collect since I rode the line when I visited from across the pond!

[@cheekytek]

They are few between and very pricy for what is out there. So I know what you mean by hard to find.. I'm in the throws of finishing of the the tube train that will run the shuttle so an interesting video is on the way soon buddy.. Keep safe and look after yourself.. All the best Garry

[@EtonieE25]

Looking really good mate 👍 Glad ur on the up mate coz love your videos and layout 😎

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Roy 👍

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Well played Broski 😏

[@ModelTrainOutsider]

The underground was so cleverly built. Excellent job! As always, informative and fun to see! Thanks for sharing your brilliant work!

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Anthony 👍

[@davidmcclelland2661]

Great work, good to see the new underground station coming to life Blue Peter style. Keep yourself safe and remain positive. Again well done and thank you.

[@cheekytek]

Much appreciated David, like that Blue Peter style but I just don't want the badge lol... Take care buddy... Garry

[@larrydee8859]

Beautifully, modelled Underground station, that comes to life very nicely, Gary. Great engineering work , lad!

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks Larry.. 😉👍

[@gregoryhale2202]

Hi Garry, great to see you back doing what you do best. Really enjoyed the video and the work on the underground station. Your attention to detail is to be admired. Cheers Greg

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Greg hope your all keeping well.. Cheers Garry.

[@grahamhearn19]

Great work garry, really love the underground idea, not something I've seen modelled a lot and the stations look fantastic. Great to hear you are well. All the best, Graham.

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks Graham, Yeah there's not a lot of underground incorporated layouts which is a shame really as it makes a great layout. The final part is on the way including a new underground loco so I am on it as they say lol... Keep safe.. Garry

[@warwickroadmodelrailway]

Hi Gary, really like the underground section of your layout especially the shuttle system. Keep up the great work

[@cheekytek]

Thanks buddy..👍

[@MarchWestJunctionTMD]

The underground station looks fantastic and I love the shuttle system it’s absolutely amazing to watch. Great video Gary and it’s really good to see your in a better place. Keep safe and well Andy

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks Andy, apologies for delayed reply, just busy working for myself at mo, I'm all good thanks and I appreciate your support THANK YOU.. 😁 Totally in a better place mentally - just need to move away from my hellish neighbour now lol. Cheers Garry..

[@barryturner2916]

Hi Garry keep on with positive thoughts, continue with sharing great videos, enjoyed the shuttle underground scene. Please stay safe and take care..

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks Barry, very inspirational words there buddy.. 😊👍 all the best Garry

[@DudleyCentral]

Love the shuttle system Garry, works really well!

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Budd 😉- yeah its a great bit of kit TBH.. 😁👍 Cheers..

[@onnomulder9775]

Awesome shuttle system Garry!! Thanks for sharing. Cheers Onno.

[@cheekytek]

Thanks 👍

[@NewModelRailway]

Nice update. Thanks. Still contemplating an underground section myself one day. :-)

[@cheekytek]

Go For It... lol do whatever makes you happy.. that's my theory.. Cheers as always Garry..

[@bhigdaddymark]

Great work Garry! Baker Street is absolutely fantastic and I hope that it doesn't go away. This shuttle concept is coming along quite nicely indeed, keep up the good work!

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks Mark. more is on the way..😁

[@darrelldeltic807]

Nice one Garry and great to see you feeling happier with the great progress you’ve made with adding the underground section, looks fantastic and really keen to look into the shuttle system now I’ve seen yours up and running, take care mate, cheers Darrell

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Darrell, TBH I really love the shuttle and they have always been my pet hates lol, I suppose don't knock it till you try it applies there lol.. Take real care buddy.. Garry

[@modelrailwaynoob]

What a great idea Gary

[@trainsontuesday]

Love your work Gary. The station looks very convincing and I'm already looking forward to seein how you make the stair connection to street level. Take care. Regards, David.

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks David, I am near completion, so its on the way, - My work is like a Stannah Stair Lift..lol Cheers Garry

[@Bassetvids]

All the best.... Love the station

[@cheekytek]

Many Thanks.. 👍

[@alanmargalan5921]

Hi Gary just watched your underground vidio looking great, That Steve Heaton kit is brilliant i use his stuff quite a lot, now you've got a train you can leave running all day without effecting the rest of your layout, great stuff Regards Alan Massie Rainhill MRC

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Alan, Yes I have used a few of his circuit board units on the layout and I am very impressed on functionality so he definitely gets my vote.. Thanks as always.. Garry

[@darrylmeredith7895]

Great stuff Gary - love the progression of the underground element - it looks fantastic. Good to hear you're doing well - stay safe.

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Darryl, Yeap all is good as they say.. positive moods help lol. A Vid is on the way so I'm keeping busy.. Take care buddy Garry..

[@stephenpike3147]

Hi Gary, just subscribed, am from TNE and seen your excellent work. Very much enjoyed this tube work and interesting to see the reversing module. It's a real shame Gaugemaster have a stop on dc feature in their chips but cannot produce an application note (I have asked) that they have tried and tested to implement that we can then use without any issues, dcc concepts certainly have an advantage over them with what they produce. Best regards Stephen.

[@cheekytek]

Hi Stephen, Thanks for the comment and subscription.. I struggle with many Gaugemaster products on the layout tbh.. I have tried many of their decoders and control units and I must say I was not impressed on their reliability, `That said I can not fault the Prodigy systems and I have two units Express and Advanced but this is re-manafactured MRC unit through Gaugemaster 🤔- In my opinion I do feel Gaugemaster dose lag behind other electric retailers and they don't have very good customer service as I have noted.. Seems DCC concepts and the likes etc that are truly out for the modeller.. Thanks again. All the best Garry

[@stephenpike3147]

@@cheekytek Hi Gary, yes their decoders do occasionally blow on what I think is a dc shoot through fault on the output bridge. This probably comes about because in the event of a brown out (say due to momentary loss of supply as run over a point or dirt) the decoder does not quench and then reset properly. I can see it manifests itself as there is very little capacitance available on these very compact PCBs to hold up the electronics supply to give the sequencing electronics and processor code to properly shut down (probably only a few extra milliseconds is all that is needed ) as the input sees its brown out. Its very different in the drives industry where I come from and we have plenty of capacitance in equivalent (ac drive) configurations - never see these shoot through faults on well designed, verified and tested kit. I suspect that is what DCC Concepts have realised on the recent release of decoders where they say extra (a small amount) capacitance has been added. I looked at the NMRA standards and believe there is a hole in the standards on this theme - for the dcc supply voltage (circa 15V peak for OO gauge) they do not specify a lower limit at which the dcc chips must work when turning a motor - there is for the aux outputs (7.5V peak if I remember correctly) on only and that might be the root of this particular problem; not in standards so no one is obliged to test or worse realise it needs addressing. Yes agree on Prodigy control systems. There are some very useful CV etc guides on the MRC website that plugs some gaps in the Gaugemaster documentation. MRC seem to be the design authority, Gaugemaster just a support, repair and sales outlet - where as in UK DCC Concepts are the design, compliance and test authority too plus they have local knowledge of the UK railway modelling fraternity needs and gripes. I would love to see an all encompassing dcc system that you can expand with modules as you need them, sensibly priced, so you can buy bits to expand as you with a universal looped comms bus with common connectors that you can easily make up yourself that controls all items - train control, routes, points and all other accessory controllers and signals and provides a gateway to a PC based simple control application. At the moment the industry is cluttered with too many part solutions and oddities! It might be that DCC Concepts are trying to position themselves in this way, so definitely a company to keep an eye on. Ooophs rant over lol Stephen

[@chazzyb8660]

Garry, lovely project and, who knows, one day I may actually get back on an actual tube train? Keep well, and keep smiling mate.

[@cheekytek]

Thanks... LOL We I have been playing in London on the tube trains over the last 3 weeks since the covid ease.. I forgot how bloomin noisy and dusty they are lol. Take it easy buddy.. Garry

[@AmeryJunction]

Such a good system that shuttle i have one on my layout and it’s great from dcc concepts . So cool bit of kit , great video layout is looking really good

[@cheekytek]

Many thanks buddy, sorry for the delayed reply as been busy with building cheekytek website lol.. Love the shuttle and yeah absolutely a great bit of kit.. catch ya soon buddy.. Garry.

[@FredWilbury]

👌😎 me . Feckin fantastic mate

[@cheekytek]

Thanks 👍

[@MaboPete]

Hi Garry, What amazing attention to detail. I have just watched the three parts covering the 'Going Underground' journey. Very informative and inspirational. How many feet of the side of the layout did the decline take to reach down to the level where Baker Street is situated? Thanking you :)

[@cheekytek]

Hi Peter Thanks for your comment - If you head to my cheekytek website you can see a detailed track plan with some inspiration to how the lower section sits. From the top of my head I believe the drop is over 5ft over the corner curve. Its probably not the best way to add a lower section but it certainly works as a fix to my space requirements to give enough drop to 4 inches below the base board.. Hope this helps in some way. All the Best Garry.

[@MaboPete]

@@cheekytek Thank you that, Garry. It does help indeed. My own decline follows a similar path in that it incorporates a curve over a very similar distance. I'm hoping to get away with Hornby 3rd Radius to reach the allocated (straight) space at the back, but if push comes to shove I'll have to get some flexitrack. Kind Regards, Peter

[@TONYNORTHEASTERN]

Excellent shuttle system. just curious Gary does it work through points. thank you for sharing how you build the underground station......all the best Tony

[@derrickpensom5429]

To answer your question. Yes it does. I have a shuttle line with a set of points dividing line into two sidings with a modified catch point, giving me a choice of two trains to run on a shuttle

[@TONYNORTHEASTERN]

Cheer's Derrick.......many thanks Tony

[@UndergroundEric]

This looks awesome matey!! Love it. Whats the plans for the train then? What stock are you going to try and do it as?

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Eric, soz for the late reply buddy as been busy running cheekytek over the last months, As to stock -The white/silver A60 stock as what used to run through Rayners Lane, my memories really and that stock suits Baker st. I have made a prototype which works well so far but may 3D print one in weeks to come.. Cheers Garry

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

good vid keep up the good vids you do stay safe lee

[@cheekytek]

Thanks Lee, you too!

[@samwoodward8491]

looking for help. how do i change loco direction on a gaugemaster prodigy advance regards sam woodward

[@cheekytek]

Hi Sam, You should see some guidance on the back of the handset, but you can download the Prodigy Manual from the Gaugemaster website / go to product and the manuals are there as a PDF, if this helps..\ To answer your question, Use BUTTON this give forward and backward / this will be highlighted in your hand set display once pressed. Hope this helps .. Garry

[@james2004k]

Hi, re the shuttle system, did you have a look at the DCC Concepts ABC shuttle system?

[@cheekytek]

Hi James, apologies for the delays as been busy with cheekytek, I have the Zen Black chip that features the shuttle system but I would need to buy the little modules that accommodate the running so its not so plug and play unfortunately. Hence why I opted for the Blocksignalling system of which I really can't fault as it was really easy to set up in minutes. For me it was just that I had to work out how I wanted to run it.. Had you looked at the DCC concepts ABC shuttle as interested on your views.. ? Thanks for the comment as always. Garry

[@gilbert7794]

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[@cheekytek]

Many thanks for the thought on that - A touch to modern for my era, But a great idea.. 👍 Cheers Garry

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[@ManchesterOxfordGate]

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[@EthansTrains]

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[@EthansTrains]

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