JUICY roster shuffles - We Say Things 215

[@WeSayThings]

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[@TheSchrimpRundung]

Hey Synderen, don't take Cubital Tunnel Syndrome (commonly known as tennis elbow) problems too lightly. My problems with that started last december, caused by handwriting, pc work and laying on my bent elbow. My doctor didn't take it seriously, so I also didn't and thought it will go away. Getting rid of these problems took me 11 months, a massive amount of money for good orthopedic and physio- and ergotherapists. I still feel some pain sometimes and I couldn't work at the pc at all for like half a year. If this is not better in 2-3 weeks, please go to a good orthopedic specialised on these things. There are things that can be done. Surgery can be dangerous for these things and can potentially fuck your arm up for the rest of your life. Some tips, that could be helpful (or not) if it doesn't get better (I know, health advice from strangers on the internet. yada yada): -If it comes from the elbow, buy a soft wrist rest (like some ELZO wrist rest) and put it under your elbow, so that your elbow and the ulnaris nerve don't press against the table. Try work with your elbow at a about 100° angle, stretching your arm through too much might seem like a good idea, but that can cause shoulder issues. -Look into nerve gliding for the ulnar nerve exercises. I know that may seem silly but this can be very helpful, if it doesn't trigger pain. If it does, it might be counter productive. -In addition to that, stretch much and maybe try to make a 5 min pause doing absolutely nothing with your arms every hour. -A sometimes overlooked problem is sleeping, since you can't control if you lay on that elbow or hand while sleeping. Therapists should absolutely make a thermoplastic splint for your elbow, so that you cannot bend it at night. A doctor also told me he advises patients with that problem to roll towels around the arm so that they can't bend their elbow, but that is a pain in the ass to do alone. edit with additional info: The reason why this can get a pain in the ass to deal with is that (besides nerve damage taking forever to "heal") if a nerve gets "irritated", the area around it can kind of swell because of the inflammation (and fluids can build up, which you can actually feel) and if the irritated area is swollen, movement will irritate the nerve even easier. So if people don't stop the actions which cause the irritation, you can get into a vicious cycle. Your doctor gave you anti inflammatory meds to try to stop inflammation and swelling. That might do the trick already, but if it doesn't orthopedic doctors and physios are the next step. Additionally, a good doctor might send you to do a high resolution ultrasonography, this procedure will show where exactly compression, pinching etc. of the nerve is. But these devices rare and waiting times for that might be long, so taking care of things early is extra important.

[@Tuxeudocolegio9]

Completely agree (i'm the guy from the other episode comment). Annd, Thanks for the shoutout synd (Just now realized this is the same account I had created while in high school. The nick should translate as "tux it's me from highschool" LOL - as tux is my nickname with some RL friends) The tips mentioned above are exactly the ones suggested for me from my doctor. In my case, due to low acess to affordable thermoplastic splints (underdeveloped country, so yea, those things are FUCKING expensive here) I used a cut PET bottle with some tapes around the edges, and it did the trick for keeping the elbow not bent while sleeping. In my case, unfortunately when I got to a specialized doctor the issue was not intermitent anymore, and no resting position nor exercise seemed to make it get better. I tried 3 different specialized doctors before going to surgery, and 2 of them recommended the surgery. I live in Brazil, and the healthcare system here is quite good (surprisingly), but I also had a plan (from work) covering me from most of the expenses. The final investigation was made with an exam called "electroneuromyography", wich is basically someone biting you with some needles and measuring your cerebral response. on my case, the measuring after the compressed zone had some obvious delay from the needle contact to the response, so yea RIP. The surgery consisted basically on rerouting the nerve. It usually passes through the back of your elbow, and now this nerve on my left arm passes through the "top" of the elbow. As of so, it now can't be compressed in the same way, and I can keep my left elbow on top of tables without fear of it happening again. According to my doctor, lucky me, because sometimes if the nerve is compressed for too long, it may never return as it used to be (after uncompressing it, you would still feel the "tingling") After the surgery I had to have my arm restrained for a couple weeks (2 maybe I guess), and after that was cleared for work (I work as a mechanic engineer on product development, so I constantly use a lot of mouse and keyboards with CAD programs). My doctor said that some people are usually more propense to have this issue and usually is a sum of things as bad ergonomics and some activities that tend to compress it. In my case was probably due to bad work ergonomycs/ driving position / hobbies (home computer usage and I play the bass guitar) If I were Synd, I'd try to check with other speciallyzed doctors or try to begin physiotherapy as soon as possible (if it is finnancially viable), because surgery has always a risk for things going bad... 2 months of waiting and THEN doing physio maybe worries me a bit, because I had to wait about 2 months to have acess to a specialized doctor, and it was already in a bad state non intermitent). After that was around 2 months for tests and examination, and around the 6th month I had the surgery. Now I guess this is all I can contribute to the topic, hope you all get better!

[@P__Huginn]

@Synderen... Ulnar nerve problems can also be a result of a muscle or group of muscles along around the arms being too tense and constricting the nerve. I have had a shoulder injury 10 years ago (required surgery) and ever since then I have similar problems now and then. It almost instantly goes away when I do physiotherapy and get the muscles (lat, trapecius, pec, small muscles under the shoulder blade and triceps) massaged and/or apply warming gels... Hope it turns out harmless and you get better soon!

[@SEBAS1991]

Hey guys. Doctor here. Hand is basically innervated by 3 nerves Radial (thumb and index) Median ( index, middle, ring) Cubital or ulnar (same nerve 2 names) ring and little finger Carpal tunnel affects median specifically so you get numbness, tingling and slight electrical pain in the palm and fingers. Cubital nerve runs in the elbow through or little finger part of the hand and the compression occurs in the elbow and in the past was known as Guyon syndrome. Now only known as compression of the cubital nerve and it’s caused mainly for having your elbow bent and resting on it. Surgery is minor surgery but it’s last case scenario usually you should take anti inflammatory medication but be careful with taking too much it will mess your stomach CoX2 selective it’s the best option “coxib” family hope it helps.

[@sriley4458]

innervated* and you're not a doctor

[@SdoRyy]

@Synderen I had the same thing after I had to walk on crutches a lot after knee surgery. Went away entirely after I got some cushions for the crutches and haven't had issues since, so it might be a good idea to use an elbow cushion or put something on your chair, like a pillow or something. That should alleviate pressure from the nerve and give it space to heal properly! Good thing is this is way, way less "dangerous" or persistent than normal carpal tunnel.

[@billstrozberg3932]

use a gel pillow bellow your elbow Synd, i use one and its suuuuper good for this. Helped tons

[@meowcheeses9870]

Ceb can never leave he loves dota and og

[@guapteezy]

need a clip of Shannon saying YESSIRRRRR as a voice line

[@aleksiii7085]

you guys forgot that MATUMBAMAN is coming back (no necessarily to the pro scene) but he will be playing in finnish local lan tournament in finland and he has a stack and he will be playing mid instead of carry, happy to see him back and hopefully he returns to the pro scene if he has the fire to come back at all.

[@stryker914]

Playing lost games and winning that 5% of the time is what makes you legitimately better versus just playing games you know you can win so mmr number goes up

[@ManBearGote]

Gunnar made block of cheese in the grand final qualifier, game 2 with centaur

[@kurnaPunk]

block of cheese is great! hard to get is the point!

[@maxgarber9934]

The reason Valve would not want to host the wiki is that if they do everything on it would be seen as official 1st party info instead of a community updated info.

[@Dev_Grohl]

holy shit im actually impressed at how Sunsfans mic didnt register the sneeze.

[@M_A484]

It seems like he muted himself or maybe even edited it out.

[@magnivincere6640]

There will be a patch right after the next week's episode comes out as usual

[@McFreshNuGet]

You know my man, if youd know my name, then youd know my name man, did you know that man?

[@and.drew.1571]

im more curious about valve and next year TI. are we back to direct invite? still no word about any system for this upcoming season.

[@meltman1736]

Soo I take it Synderen still paid for early access! Jokes aside, thanks for all the content you put up!

[@MCoterle]

I just noticed that I like the non-dota part of your podcast way more than the dota related part. Have you considered doing more non-dota things or maybe doing 2 episodes, 1 dota related and one for non-dota topics? not sure how this would affect your work load though, not sure if this is possible time-wise, just something to consider maybe

[@shoopah92]

Blizzard did the pay to play early with Diablo 4 as well

[@zikan123]

MAKE BLOCK OF CHEESE ONLY REQUIRE 2 OF THE BIG LOTUSES INSTEAD OF 3.

[@Roreo_]

Whet my whistle Synderen

[@AxelRichardson]

I feel like draymon ’nut shot’ green is more hated than harden

[@WorldEaterZero]

Talon's new players have 2 previously banned for account sharing and they are both Malaysian which I felt ashamed for

[@eyeplay3146]

I mean, WS played with Boom during Ti qualifiers. So he is out banned. But they played great againts Aurora former talon and knock them out.

[@ax0r]

so he said he wanted to reach a numbered immortal, any rank

[@stryker914]

Erica was poyoyo on vici, he was there for a while

[@ax0r]

I love thursday

[@McFreshNuGet]

Yes!

[@Lormenkal64]

The Mavs are gonna make the playoffs while the Suns will end up losing in the play in. Quote me when it happens

[@hirumaatobe3140]

First time in years that I've watched sunsfan, I do like their synergy with the more serious Synderen but I miss the old days when slacks was on the other side. Pure entertainment whatever segment they do😅

[@0Luxis0]

Guys, you know why they are having these.. "disarrangement" more often, right?

[@roellamboo]

@synderen. I dont want to Scare you, but my sis was diagnosed with MS with your symptoms. Tingeling feeling started in pinky and ringfinger. It took about 2 years and some operations untill they looked at an MRI of the the brain for MS markers. So.... Lets hope its not that :P

[@simo4068]

Eomm system in dota2

[@Test-xh9oy]

lets go grubby!

[@mcgoo721]

Ammar is trash especially from the carry role. They might make majors depending on the structure of tournaments and regions next year but thats it. Opponents can draft and strategize as if theyre playing 4 v 5 and just ignore him post lane phase. 2-3 bans, his whole pool is ruined.

[@zanec14]

"early access" aka. monetizing fomo

[@mauvemus5810]

sunsfan don't give a fuck about Draymond lmao I respect that

[@cristobaltorres2853]

That block of cheese discussion is so mind numbingly stupid, it is just simply impossible to get. It really does show how some people need to have an opinion about anything to feel smart. holy cow.

[@freaka1987]

it is easy to get, watch pro games and how many lotuses are not picked up

[@Ampersandersson]

Daily reminder to remove watchers as well

[@McFreshNuGet]

100ms ping is nothing... If I'd have go'da*n 100ping back in the days when i was a kid, I'd be a fu**in pro player in retirement nowadays 😅😅

[@Herbalogist101]

grubby hits immortal when they have nerfed the game to all get out and now with the social credit score system they have implemented theres a whole chunk of the pie of total players locked out from even participating part of the game no matter how crappy the match finder is it is still a giant handicap see how far he goes in the shadowpool

[@Dev_Grohl]

I got an stroke trying to make sense of your comment