Understanding Ayre & Coral in Armored Core 6

[@claresaprama499]

Since Ayre is the paragone of human virtue without equal past or present, she is most resplendent in love, tributes and accolades. Waking or sleeping, I must not forget Ayre's great boon and in order to return her favour by day and by night, I should only think of fulfilling my loyalty. Who is Ayre? For the blind, she is vision. For the hungry, she is the chef. For the thirsty, she is water. If Ayre thinks, I agree. If Ayre speaks, I'm listening. If Ayre has a million fans, I am one of them. If Ayre has ten fans, I am one of them. If Ayre has only one fan, that is me. If Ayre has no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world is against Ayre, I am against the whole world. I will love Ayre until my very last breath.

[@Lancefh_ENV]

Ayre abide with us!

[@reubenchandy2052]

Ayre enjoyer 🗿🗿🗿

[@underplague6344]

Since Rummy is the paragone of human virtue without equal past or present, he is the most resplendent in love, tributes and accolades. Waking or sleeping, I must not forget Rummy's great boon and in order to return his favor by day and by night, I should only think of fulfilling my loyalty. Who is Rummy? For the blind, he is vision. For the hungry, he is the chef. For the thirsty, he is water. If Rummy thinks, I agree. If Rummy speaks, I'm listening. If Rummy has a million fans, I am one of them. If Rummy has ten fans, I am one of them. If Rumny has only one fan, that is me. If Rummy has no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world is against Rummy, I am against the whole world. I will love Rummy until my very last MAD STOMP.

[@SADmemer.]

Based ayre Enjoyers 🗿

[@reubenchandy2052]

@@SADmemer. Based indeed 🗿🗿🗿

[@Calyde]

One thing I will mention that puts an interesting spin on Carla’s “Cinder” status. The RaD seems to have a trend of call signs meaning the opposite of what they imply. “Honest” Brute was anything but honest when he stole Carla’s technology and betrayed her and the RaD, and “Chatty” Stick is anything but chatty, only speaking as efficiently as possible. It stands to reason that “Cinder” Carla may also be a part of this naming convention in some way, implying she isn’t really a survivor of the fires, but is still connected with it in the opposite way. Perhaps it references her starting the fires as part of the Overseers which wouldn’t make her a surviver, but an instigator.

[@garrulousgoldmask]

I completely agree! And there's also Invincible Rummy, ranked dead last in the Arena.

[@Calyde]

@@garrulousgoldmask right, forgot about that guy xD

[@AzraelMight]

This would be true if it wasn’t for the fact that Carla is an institute scientist

[@craves7215]

One of the things you didn't mention, is there was another person in Arquebus who knew Rusty and was also a Vesper. V.III O'Keeffe mentions him in the mission. That is possibly one of the reasons he got promoted so fast.

[@garrulousgoldmask]

Good point! I went back and fought O’Keefe and it's really interesting that his final words are about Rusty and going to the other side. So the two were definitely close, but I'm not sure how exactly. O’Keefe was also involved in the Island Four Disturbance as a spy, but only joined Arquebus afterwards. So it looks like he may have also been a double agent for the RLF.

[@giantflamingrabbitmonster8124]

​@@garrulousgoldmask don't forget that the whole reason Allmind sends us after O'Keefe is because they were basically filling the role that we are now, but had a change of heart. So working as, or maybe becoming, a double agent for the RLF within the Vespers would track with that.

[@kanadashyuugo873]

​@@garrulousgoldmaskThe "going to the other side" has more to do with the Coral Release. That makes more sense, seeing how during the fight he talks about how he decided staying human is better than anything on the 'other side' of Coral Release. Just as Dolmayan calls it Throwing the Dice and Crossing the Threshold

[@irfan_syah5993]

Oh my beloved coral ghost waifu

[@logarius2178]

Imagine she caught you jerking off. Ayre: …….. Ayre: Raven…. Did Walter teach you that?

[@zlkanglwrth2776]

Nah simp, fk the alien voices, burn humanity destroying parasite

[@melaniabladeofmiquella]

Oh brother 🙄 leave your basement

[@admiralalbion2279]

@@melaniabladeofmiquellanaaa he/she’s outside embracing who they are while you’re sat here hating.

[@sirith9157]

I love how some people called Ayre a manipulative. I mean, it's a FromSoftware game. Let's be honest here, what matters here is context. Ayre is some wierd ass alien life form that was imprisoned at Watchpoint for who knows how long. 621 is first person "she" probably met after all this time. It's not 621 fault he's lobotomized plan with urge to kill. She don't force us do to anything, her only request to fight Carla is to not destroy Rubicon AGAIN and kill everyone. She wants us to stop fighting Walter, she even joins us to fight with Allmind where 621 is outnumbered. If this isn't enough of a proof for "I'm not your enemy" then I don't know what is 🤨 But with all that said I think FromSoftware did an amazing job with all the characters. We don't want them to die, but this world is what it is. We can't save everyone...

[@pillarmenn1936]

They call Ayre manipulative as a "grasp at straws" moment. Hell, those same people also accuse Rusty of betrayal.

[@whiteglint019]

​@@pillarmenn1936No, you and the op are both wrong. Your prejudical commentary only demonstrates that you cant accept that people disagree with you. You arent objectively correct.

[@VictorIV0310]

@@whiteglint019And then? Do explain and justify your point.

[@spacewargamer4181]

Can't agree more. I feel that the people that say those kind of things have some kind of megalomaniac problem where everything have to go his way and be under their control or they start to call traitor everyone. I don't consider manipulative almost anyone, only exceptions for me are Carla and obviously AllMind. Hell, even Snail basically use every chance to say you make him "puke" with other words.

[@kenji444]

If you unlock ayre's AC you find out through reading the description of her ac's parts that her AC is pretty much unmanned. If you read the description of her ac's chest however, you find out there there is a cockpit for a human , but there are literally no controls for the human to even use, nor does it need the mind or any part of the humans body to run it. So either Ayre is a "wave' of coral that is running the AC, meaning she is actually the AC or she's the human in the pilot seat that is controlling the AC through the use of her ability to manipulate coral. either way, i love the mysterious nature of her.

[@ShadrackMeduson]

this is already explained. During the final fight againts the allmind after ayre joins you and after draining health from the allmind there is a dialog were ayra says something like ''she is blocking my signal, i cannot control it'' thats why her AC is not longer helping you at the end of the fight. So ayre controls the AC wirelessly, BUT, in the fires of raven ending, Ayre dies if you destroy the AC, so its implied that she somehow transfered her entire being as a whole to the machine, instead of the true ending were she just controlls it long distance. The reason of why this is diferent might be because of desperation. Ayre is risking it all to stop you. You can even hear how scared she is and her dispair if you keep lowering her health and fun fact, if she kills you when she is below 50% health she will say and a quote ''you were...the only one'' with a sad tone.

[@dragonhearted7761]

Yeah she's not human. Walter can literally see her next to you during his fight doped up on coral, She's called a coral wave mutation multiple times and the shut down/destruction of her ac only kills her in the bad ending where if she were human she'd of died in both edit: also how would she of even made contact anyhow if she was human and how could no one else could see or hear her unless they were doped with coral too

[@cooperlittlehales6268]

She's definitely a wave controlling it. In the arena where you fight Ayre and she gets the idea to bring the AC to help you fight, she says that she can control it specifically because it runs on coral energy, implying that she is the energy itself and not a pilot.

[@joewas2225]

@@ShadrackMeduson I hated fighting her. She was tough but her dialogue just made it even harder. That slow mo at the 50% just hits you inside. Normally I cheer during a tough boss that took hours, but I just cried. I hated that ending & hated fighting her even more.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

@@joewas2225 Opposite for Me. I used A Tank Build with two Stun Needle mounted to nullify Coral Shielding. Just eliminating an annoyance. I will definitely start feeling it when I have to fight Handler Walter.

[@sayonarakid]

When Carla calls those missiles Fireworks Ayere say that they really look like fireworks when they explode. I don't think thats something an alien or a being that was always some radio wave would say. Or even that fireworks are something commom in Rubicon.

[@garrulousgoldmask]

Good point! She also has a sense of beauty (she calls the Coral Release “beautiful” for instance), which also doesn't sound like something a wholly alien mutation or an AI would say.

[@sayonarakid]

@@garrulousgoldmask but I actually don't believe she was human. But that the coral beings were formed by the human memories absorbed by the coral. Coral is not only fuel but a conductor used to transfer information. Like its used to conect the brain to the ac for the augmented humans. So I think those coral beings are the energy that goes through the coral particles. Like we are basically the electricity going through the brain cells. I think if she was once a human she would be much kore desperate to talk to someone. And there is no reason to not say she was human before. Also the way she talks about the coral, her brothers and sisters, also make it look like she was always coral. Thats what I think for now

[@DuelistRL]

But that's exactly what she is. She probably has seen fireworks before or heard about them. Maybe seen them in a data file as she can access things no issue. It is already confirmed she has no body, has never had a body. The line "a rubiconian without a body" heavily implies she is a citizen of rubicon within the coral and always has been within the coral. It's not that hard to understand. You are referencing a line about fireworks when a bunch of other lines reference the coral itself and what it is. Maybe you need a more comprehensive lore video or to replay the game my dude.

[@DuelistRL]

​@garrulousgoldmask Except that's what she is. She's never been a human. The game is desperate to try and show you that Ayre is a coral entity. Like c'mon do people think she was human before or something? That's not how this all works. Did you even get the NG++ ending? I think you need to play the game again.

[@kanadashyuugo873]

​@@DuelistRLIf the Coral was there first, aren't THEY also Rubiconian? Actually, even more so than the human colonists

[@Devalinor]

I think Ayre is an amalgamation of multiple peoples consciousness, because she said "Please, you must wake up, before your consciousness is forever scattered in the coral flow" shortly before fighting against Balteus.

[@garrulousgoldmask]

That's a great point! It could also explain why the Coral called itself "Seria" when talking to Dolmayan and "Ayre" when talking to 621.

[@heademptyonlybun881]

Whilst we don’t have concrete evidence, I’d be more willing to wager that ‘amalgam’ can be replaced with a type of hive mind, not dissimilar to ALLMIND, but one that innately create a siren song to all coral particles. ((Hence the closer you get to convergence, the more entranced Ayre becomes with being ‘home’)). She speaks plainly about the voices of the coral being her brothers and sisters, but never as an extension of herself. Instead she refers to herself as ‘a Rubiconian without a body’. In this instance because she is a C-wave mutation similar to Father Dolmayan’s experience after being caught up in a blastwave of Coral. The implications of this and the line about being scattered within the coral flow lends more credit toward quite literally separating body from mind. ((This all excludes the Trigger and Convergence shenanigans, which high at that point I’m fairly certain the rules as they were have changed.

[@joewas2225]

I love Ayre. Literally the only one that calls you Raven & by your side 100% except for the Fires ending, which I cried on that ending. I'm so glad she was a tough Boss, Ibis & Ayre I raged a lot. I will not fight her again. That includes the replays.

[@rexex345]

My curent theory is that Coral are some kind of really energy positive symbiotic species. It seems from what we see in how they get used and how they function that while they themselves can clearly provide more than enough energy on their own or in small colonies to say, run a C-weapon using it as a kind of host, they also die with those hosts. By my theory it seems the institute initially mistook this emergy positive nature which is pretty similar to mitochondria (a single cell symbiotic organism tyat is also energy positive enough to become a major part of how every loving cell in life now works, and confused it for a fuel, butning it, though based on the design of some Coral tech we see new, that seems to have been more replaced and corrected for in Allmind's designs. Colonial symbiotes would also explain the instinct to group up since that makes coral a large scale case of siphonophore. I would say though, its pretty clear that symbiosis seems to be a mutation as the examples we see are all post iblis generation and she's literally refered to as one by Allmind. As for knowing some homocentric stuff like fireworks, if shes a symbiote in our brain it stands to reason she can access memories, which in turn would lead to her developing intimicy towards us. Now, does this make them physical... not necessarily, she could literally be a wave, lifeforms made of energy either completely or partially would explain ability to host in machines.

[@haydentravis3348]

Can't fap without alien brain GF there for the ride.

[@kenji444]

i agree, the fires of ibis happened because humanity was pretty much using an alien as a fuel source. it got pissed off and off instinct caused an event and millions died because of it. i also think thats when an evolution happened. the coral gained consciousness, in a sense. the coral mixed with human consciousness began to form new consciousness such as ayre. also not all coral are created equal. there are beings like Ayre that came from it, but then, there are ones with no voice, like the coral that took over the giant drill worm that was given the task to protect the coral.

[@hesperosshamshael2873]

I would like to add/support this view. In my playthroughs, I have had no reason to think Ayre was or is human. Personally, she registered as... donning human spirit, becoming part of us. Which tracks with her being a sort of symbiotic life form. And what's more, empathy is hardly a human-exclusive trait. Altruism makes sense for eusocial creatures. Much of Ayre's behavior has struck me as, at its core, unrefined. Like someone who has almost got the hang of being 'people'. There's always been this subtle awkwardness in my view of her, an uncertainty. Ah, and the notion of being aware that a human can lose themselves to the coral flow. You don't need to be of a species to recognize when a creature loses its higher cognitive functions.

[@rexex345]

@@hesperosshamshael2873 honestly I think Coral may be a siphonophore, like a man o' war. Based on how the other 2 symbiote Coral we know of, the one who met Dolmayan and the one and only Allmind/Kate, it seems individuality is not necessarily a normal thing, or potentially a new thing, actually part of the fires of iblis was that it was caused by one of the institute burning the coral because it started mutating, given the fact at that time we were literally shoving Coral into everything and everyone we could, it's possible this actually started an evolution towards symbiosis which may actually be where individuality came from. Kate almost seems like she's maybe of the iblis era Coral, cause her entire outlook is incredibly hostile if not disgusted by Coral not part of the main colony, despite the fact she seems to have it too, her actions in trying to bring as many as possible into her network almost screams of wanting to force things to how they were before and figuring that it could only work by making everything one big Coral hive, hense her taking the name Allmind. Side note, the reason I think she's Coral and not an AI is that she acts very much like Ayre, she's probably symbiotes into the institute systems but she lacks knowledge that an actual AI would have from that same access and she actually starts breaking her facade over time, letting her emotions out, we also see AI like Chatty and the AC system and she doesn't even talk like either, more like she's pretending like she is, and then there is just her embarrassing display trying to be Kate as this mysterious unknown Merc, a pretended Walter and even Ayre see through instantly. Also I don't think Iguazu was downloaded, I think that final fight is literally him, rather I think she tried symbiotising with him, and then basically had to deal with the fact she was not ready for the fact a host is their own individual, hense why she can't control him. Dolmayan was an even more tragic example cause unlike Ayre, Ceyes and him basically became addicts, he's a dozer, so he's already addicted to taking Coral like a drug, and probably Ceyes became part of him from that, but then now you have an individual Coral who suddenly gets a chance to interact with her host, and it's all facilitated through the use of Coral as a drug, she effectively becomes addicted too and like any addict is more than happy to hurt her own family, even literally kill and use their bodies to fuel her own habit. Dolmayan joined Kate's plan cause he wanted to talk to Ceyes more, we know this from his writings, but we also see he became afraid of the destructive results it would cause which is likely painted by his and his Coral's addiction, and only knowing it, that becomes how he perceives all symbiosis will be.

[@azure4622]

You calling coral a mitochondria made me think about the ng++ ending. Considering the theory that mitochondria might have been it's own organism before being incorporated into other living beings maybe that's what coral release will do too, but exclusively to humans.

[@kanadetone]

My theory from when you first met her, was that Ayre was a human consciousness/soul that was "swept up" in the Coral during the Fires of Ibis, becoming one with it. Ayre is perhaps the only character who is always fully in your corner from the start (unless you choose one of the endings). A true friend. My last theory regarding Ayre is that 621 will eventually regain any brain functions they lost to augmentation through Contact with Ayre and the Coral. In a sense 621 will get their life back, something Walter mentions (albiet not geniunely) as an original boon from finding and selling the Coral.

[@DuelistRL]

She's not a human. Never was a human. The game tries to hit home that coral is it's own being. They weren't people who died in the Fires of Ibis as the reason for its (man made) destruction in the first place was because of the nature of it. They tried to prevent coral convergence the first time. Watch a longer lore video my friend cause everyone in this comment section has it backwards. The line "a rubiconian without a body" heavily implies that this planet is her home no matter if she is human or another lifeform. How are people misunderstanding this simple concept. Gen 4 AC pilots have made coral contact BEFORE the fires of ibis my dude. If they are humans who died in the fire that contradicts the entire plot.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

@@cowmath77 That isn’t…it’s a hypothetical, not saying that’s the case and contradicting himself.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

Handler Walter is on your side, and always has been. I don’t know why people don’t recognize this

[@AwakenShogun]

You forgot to mention that during the mission before you fight balteus, Ayre mentioned that a person consiousness can get lost/be part of the coral, you won't know this if you are not a human. She also states that her brothers and sisters got consumed by the fire and became part of the coral. So it is possible she, her brothers and sisters used to be human.

[@the_infinexos]

Exactly what I think. I think all the victims of the Fires of Ibis - those who were vaporized - became one with the coral. Coral seems to be pure energy, it possibly assimilated their brainwaves, resulting in "wave mutations". She also acts very human, so I don't see why people think she's an alien

[@Kingconquest89]

The more I delve into this story, the more it reminds me of Evangelion.

[@Capt.Cooking]

Man I thought the same thing

[@mahwiiiife408]

Coral Release = Human Instrumentality but based

[@giantslug6969]

Ayre is your formerly-human-turned-ephemeral-being waifu

[@DuelistRL]

Was never a human. Coral is not people who died in the Fires of Ibis. Coral has always behaved with a collective consciousness since before the disaster. It's been explain by the game and by better lore channels this isn't true. She was never human. Before you encounter Balteus is when she was created. She is a coral being "a rubiconian without a body". The video you watched is incorrect.

[@Artaxerxes.]

Coral is sentient so that bitch isn't a former human.

[@joewas2225]

Yep. Just like the Doll 😉

[@brandonfrancis1941]

2:48 Me in the "HAL" AC with coral generator and weapons. "omg no way..." Also to note on dosers making contact, Thumb Dolmayan was a doser. He made contact by getting high on coral. By my interpretation anyway. Only hard facts are he was doser who decided to be a freedom fighter after making contact. So maybe the dosers did make some form of contact.

[@MusicaX79]

Ayre is to Humans and the Coral in Armored Core 6 the same way Eureka is to Humans and the Scrub Coral in Eureka Seven. I moment she showed up she screamed SUS. The longer the game went on the more her character screamed "oh she's an ambassador to the coral." She has been given human ticks, mannerisms, and vocabulary clearly, she is an ambassador. Her goal is to evaluate, understand, and propose a symbiosis. Not a peace or recognition of sentience, and rights, no she wants the coral to merge with humanity. In all playthrough Ayre does nothing to remove this feeling. Ayre is a manipulator.

[@StaryExtra]

The thing that scares me is not the implication of what Coral can do to humanity. ...But if Men will ever have their "Personal" alone time ever again by having a Coral symbiosis... Look, Ayre. Humans do this thing to relieve stress... Please look away.

[@SephirothsBIade]

5:54 LMAO what a good nickname. Love that it exists

[@Plus_Escapee]

Coral contains and absorbs consciousness in a direct, analogue way, which is eerily similar to how adaptive AI absorbs our will and example by proxy. This suggests that she is either a specific strong will reborn in the coral, or is the manifestation of a collective conscious that died. Nagai probably did not fully understand this, and thus did not know that mass murdering a planet would guarantee more wave mutations, if that is indeed how it works in the first place. Basically...this really is Armored Souls.

[@britishneko3906]

Ayre: "they were using Coral... as fuel" Raven using funny Coral fueled mech: :3

[@the_infinexos]

Raven hiding his Coral Oscillator: *damn thats crazy*

[@wanderingbufoon]

well, igniting the coral while there were people and AI using it probably melded them together in a symbiosis kind of way but because the fire erased everything in the vicinity, they practically had nowhere else to bind to and simply became the voices of coral. Taking in a new form, a mutation and affecting people with implants in them as they were both man and machine.

[@Coruptin]

It's really simple. You just have to go watch a certain 50 episode anime to understand it.

[@TheTwilitHero]

Eureka seven?

[@johndewey6405]

This is my theory regarding coral. I think that both walter and carla feared the convergence and what it can do to the trapped conscious mind (hint on the alea iacta est ending). This is hinted when a 'mad' scientist blew up the first coral reserve and ignited the fires of ibis event. I assumed that the only way to prevent the convergence is to blow the coral. Walter also often use a friend's request alibi during several mission to mask its intention and revealed further when carla mentioned about the overseer and their goal to ignite the coral reserve on rubicon. The true ending is basically what carla, walter, and the institute's scientist nightmare. Where every trapped consciousness are spread across the stars and resides on every AC, uncontrolled by anyone. (ALLMIND tries to control this but fails on the true ending)

[@mileswiltse4535]

She makes me feel important

[@the_infinexos]

Oh if only I could've gone on more dates with Ayre

[@Meman29384]

Spoilers ahead Ok so this is kinda proven( depending on your perspective) from the allmind ending, you get turned into coral with ayre, blasted across the universe into new ac’s, and I think the same thing happend to ayre and the rest of the rubiconians who died from the fires of ibis. But it all really depends on how you interpret ayre and the endings, this is just how I see it.

[@hitler69]

Great breakdown.

[@haydentravis3348]

People really getting confused about spirit koolaid?

[@monsunoguy19]

Honestly I can see why I got the bad ending first. In my opinion there was never any reason to care about Ayre of the Coral. We're here for the job, complete the mission at all costs.

[@moonrabbit2334]

It's a story of a dog with a leash but with further playthrough breaking free of the leash and making our own decisions, becoming a free bird, Raven. Now I am not going to indulge in justifying your genociding instincts in a video game

[@underplague6344]

​@@moonrabbit2334Raven explicitly decides for themselves in the fires ending. Rusty himself comments that you've "found your purpose". Raven simply has decided (for a variety of possible reasons) that the best choice for the galaxy, or for them, is to burn Rubicon. It may be morally questionable but Raven has still broken their chains in that ending.

[@ColtonGamingTV]

I always thought Carla & Walter were around the same age seeing as they seemed to both survive the Fires of Ibis.

[@hhellweii8078]

Ayre is the lady in my head that calls me cripple cakes

[@chazgreenleaf8258]

I wish we could get her boss armor

[@joewas2225]

YES! I would totally have hers. Sadly we can only have Echo which I did improve but kept it mostly the same.

[@h4rdw0rk64]

Eureka Seven vibes, anyone?

[@spacewargamer4181]

Lol, now that you say It 😂

[@warcrimes390]

Shitty plot summary: guy gets sent to a planet in the middle of a war as an illegal immigrant and together with his newfound red disembodied girlfriend singlehandedly turns the tide of said war.

[@Raius01]

Nice video!

[@garrulousgoldmask]

Thank you!

[@mahwiiiife408]

What are Ayre's goals? She talks of a shared dream, but that bit was always a bit vague...

[@spacewargamer4181]

Coexistence

[@calson80ify]

I want Rusty to pet my head and say "youre such a good boi, buddy" and also I like the idea that coral was beginning to gain a consciousness like an animal just instinct before the fires but after them, coral mutated with all of the human minds gaining an actual personality

[@superdarklink]

Maybe this says alot about who i am, but when i encountered Ayre for the first time, my first initial thought was "oh god am i corrupted now" 🤣 I also couldn't help but notice her voice sounds different from the other characters ,like it doesmt have the metallic graininess characteristic of coming out of a speaker. I dknt really know how to explain.

[@silversnow-gamingchannel]

I appreciate these lore videos though I already forget 90% after the video ends already but thats on me, not on you. Having trouble to understand the deeper bonds of the fractions kinda, I yet didnt read much documents e.g. and i think i missed some big obvious story parts. Like about Rusty... Sooo in my first playtrough i went for Liberator of Rubicon and I didnt understand 2 things, still dont after your video part: 1. Why was Rusty fighting us exactly? I mean we were homies before. 2. Why was he with us in chapter 5 and helping as if nothing has happened?! Pls helps 😂

[@garrulousgoldmask]

Yeah, it's kinda incredible just how much story FromSoft was able to hide away. And repeat views help both of us out! Those are good questions: Rusty first fights us because he thinks 621 is a threat to Rubicon. He knows 621 is powerful but he doesn't know where Raven stands (hence the "no greater threat than power without purpose" line). Also at that point in the playthrough, you haven't fully committed to choosing a side yet. And I assume there weren't any hard feelings because Rusty now knows that 621 is committed to fighting to free Rubicon. Plus he's a fellow mercenary so he knows that sometimes buddies may find themselves on opposing sides.

[@silversnow-gamingchannel]

@@garrulousgoldmask Thats a good explanation thanks. I was just kinda bumped at Chapter 5 I was like "YOU? HERE? You wanted to kill me a few missions ago! Don't you dare playing tricks I can't trust you anymore. You fucked up rusty!" At the smart cleaner 2.0 fight with Rusty I always expected him to lead me into a trap 😂😂

[@silversnow-gamingchannel]

@@garrulousgoldmask I just want to admit that after I got the NG+ Ending (Bad Ending bcs I got Good Ending in my first playthrough) yesterday I now fully understand Rusty. He was a Double Agent all the time, working in Arquebus but was truly on RLFs side. So he has the same intentions as Ayre, protecting the coral and stopping the corporations. Like a spy. And bcs before chapter 5 we didnt fully decide our direction and we wanted to find Institute City at that mission Rusty followed us and tried to stop us. But he failed. But after that he realized (in Good Ending path) that we are on the RLFs side, we are no harm to Rubicon so he is okay with us again and wants to help. Therefore the Bad Ending path was pretty sad when Rusty came a second time to stop us 🥺 Sorry Buddy...I will never do Bad ending again...

[@joewas2225]

@@silversnow-gamingchannel I hated the Fires ending (solely because of fighting Ayre) but needed it for the true ending. Ayre is actually the only one I truly care about.

[@moonrabbit2334]

@@silversnow-gamingchannel Now you get it😊

[@DuelistRL]

The game kind of explains what she is just by playing it I don't think it's that hard to understand. A consciousness without a body that exists in the coral. A coral mutation. Idk with lines of dialogue like "A rubiconian without a body" and the fact she pilots an AC in the final NG++ boss by just controling it. I chose the fires of raven ending first and that's pretty much all I needed to understand what she is. The othet playthrough only added further context.

[@kanadashyuugo873]

The "Rubiconian without a body" is the biggest red herring because that does NOT at all actually mean she is or was a human. Even so, wouldn't in that case she be a Rubiconian who LOST her body? She IS Coral, a new life. And funnily enough in the True Ending we don't really see HOW PISSED this new emergent life would be at humanity for the attempted genocide 50 years before.

[@moonrabbit2334]

@@kanadashyuugo873 Yeah am tired of people believing Ayre was a human like bro did you guys even played the game? Nagai log said coral undergoes mutations and Allmind said C-pulse mutation

[@Wezt334]

Who is Ayer, you can watch this 8 minute insightful video or TLDR a poor man’s ADA

[@mohamedsuhan3298]

So the coral is an organic lifeform that is now imitating the people that died in the fires of Ibis (communicating with their voices)? Some say the coral absorbed the souls of those who died in the fires of Ibis and is now communicating using their voices, while others say it's just an alien lifeform that can communicate like a human......... I'm a bit confused 🤔

[@werdle92]

Yes daddy. Thank you daddy.

[@cathylunn2809]

Ayre is a schizophrenia induced coral waifu and you cant change my mind

[@aynersolderingworks7009]

Theres one thing i probably misunderstand, i thought the coral voices are basicly the people who died in the fires of ibis, who then turned into coral

[@willowhealy453]

its certainly an interpretation with merit, it is however unclear whether coral is its own alien intelligence or whether it just happens to be a kind of blank slate for human consciousness after the fires of ibis, the only thing that could definitely prove or disprove that is knowing whether coral had intelligence before the fires, some things that ayre says during the game could suggest that it is the case with her talking about getting scattered in the coral flow and her use of the words brothers and sisters instead of just siblings, suggesting that its people who had identity before getting integrated with coral

[@DuelistRL]

This isn't true. The coral existed before the fires and was still behaved exactly like it did. Gen 4 augmentation existed back then as well and "hearing voices" was a Gen 4 side effect to augmentation but we know right after Balteus that those voices are coral mutations. Coral has quite literally nothing to do with humans. Coral behaved like a living thing before the fires of ibis. Did you play the game dude? If you want the full picture you need to watch a lore video longer than 10 minutes that got things right not wrong like this person. Coral are not humans. The game tells you this over and over. Like please go seek out some better channels because I'm sick of seeing this theory when it holds no ground and contradicts itself. If coral are dead human consciousness then how did coral behave like that before the first fires? Because it isn't. It is it's own collective consciousness and coral mutations are when part of the coral gains full sentience. TL:DR Coral being humans is impossible. Coral was like this before the Fires. Gen 4s existed before the fires, and gets 4s hear voices when they make coral contact.

[@DuelistRL]

​@@willowhealy453This person is wrong. Its an easy answer that ignores the obvious. Gen 4 augmentation existed before the first fires of ibis. Gen 4 side effects include hearing voices. So unless the game isn't telling us about a previous disaster that melded the human dead into coral then this person is right but they aren't. Coral in the story's history has always behaved as it did. It's the reason the first Fires happened in the first place. It was human triggered in an attempt to destroy it because of the chance of Coral Convergence. The game explicitly states this in the story. Humans are not coral. It's a ridiculous theory. Watch a longer lore video and you will understand since the game somehow confused people.

[@xxadder114xx]

​@@DuelistRLIt could also be that coral was a sort of "fledgling intelligence" only somewhat aware and became more so with others dying and joining it. It's also possible it had it's own intelligence but getting consumed by coral also adds your mind to the collective. I think it's too heavily implied that people's minds are within the coral for it to not be true at all. But I do think that the coral had some level of intelligence before any human absorption.

[@brogoyle]

@@DuelistRL There's no need to be THIS fed up for different interpretations, Father Dolmayan is proof that voices were able to exist before the fires of ibis, but that doesn't leave out the possibility of new life being absorbed into it.

[@philippemaurice8782]

Does Ayre actually call us "Stud Muffin"? I got the true ending and I don't think I've heard that.

[@thegoodwin]

I think "stud muffin" came from a fan art on reddit.

[@garrulousgoldmask]

Oh no, that was a meme. Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone mods that in with an AI voice!

[@saif-gv6gl]

isn't that a halo reference?

[@reedmohlman9762]

So I haven't finished my third playthrough but are we ever sure what form coral takes? Like by the names I sort of assume it's some kind of rock or crystal substance but everytime we see it, it's fumes or trails

[@DuelistRL]

Because it is. More akin to a gas than a solid. It's like light or electricity. But it behaves like a living thing. Flocking to where more coral is. And characters like Ayre and the coral voice Thumb Dolmyan talks to are coral mutations. Aspects of coral that have gained a full sentient consciousness.

[@azure4622]

Basically sentient algae

[@Vertex_0101]

Kinda like a twisted ff7 concept

[@god7762]

Armored core 7

[@d4arken3ds0ul]

Where is the archive file in attack the watchpoint (alt)? I never saw it

[@garrulousgoldmask]

iirc it's on top of the gate right before you fight Sulla

[@gilly25th]

Ayre isn't happy with me right now

[@Stoat_Lord]

Who's Ayre? The Answer's quite simple. Ayre is short for Ayre'eka, your coral girlfriend. Cuz you're Raven Thurston and you pilot the Nirvash Type Loader 4.

[@nelvisea8453]

Who's Ayre? Of course, she's my girlfriend duh. Yes, she's just inside my head so what!

[@TruTube.1.]

AYRE IS REALLY A 250 LB FAT GIRL NAMED RAYE.

[@hazz62]

wdym who is she, thats my wife

[@brittle1]

She's actually just a crutch to make you play the game multiple times to find the 'good ending'

[@samaaaa1]

I bet you're fun at parties

[@nettcat]

Nahhhh Rusty is the real crutch here

[@Bigkumasarmwrestling]

It's all a simulation

[@DuelistRL]

Just here to comment shes not a human. Its not possible. Unless the game someone forgot to explain that you lose your memory when your conciousness gets lost in the coral (potential casualties from 1st Gen augmentation NOT the Fires of Ibis).

[@ohdeer1823]

im so sorry but I have to ask...is this what too much uwu does to a person

[@are3287]

I wish Ayre's mech had more pronounced robo boobs but the design we have is good too

[@saif-gv6gl]

bro's down bad for the coralussy. i agree tho, give ECHO boobs

[@ghoulbuster1]

Don't worry there's fanart for that WOAH MAMA

[@GR4ZM0ZY]

Cowal

[@Elegiu5]

dude's straight up speaking uwuspeak

[@strvtosmusic]

Lol

[@Artaxerxes.]

ayre is a dumb kunt that leeches onto raven and then expects him to help her. Demolishing her was definitely the second most enjoyable part in ac6. Its not better than the ice worm fight however

[@VictorIV0310]

You gotta actually be so fucking stupid to be saying and believing in this shit man like pond scum level protozoan level IQ here. You making the rocks look wise.

[@albyx]

COWOL

[@bshad1]

CoRRRal, CaRRRla

[@sameerdodger]

He clearly has a speech impediment and cannot help it. I wonder if you have any imperfections we can make fun of 🤔

[@Elegiu5]

guy seriously struggles to pronounce the R. Sounds like he's doing uwuspeak lmfao

[@chriskotte8468]

Speech therapy exists my guy.

[@strvtosmusic]

Why you pronounce ayre like you have a finger in your mouth

[@marbeano]

Anyone else hear a maynkwaft accent