Understanding Class Politics: Bourdieu with Marx feat. Lisa Mckenzie

[@LadyLuck8_4]

Perhaps you can provide more detail about the right monopolisation of working class topics and how they differ or are similar in various countries, comparisons

[@rverasart]

i have a small complaint about the narrative on depolitization, one of the reasons i stopped my political activism around the time you mention, is specifically because that is also the moment the avenues for political organizing closed before me, i do have aspirations of political organizing, but i have no time nor money. Bernie and similar events in other countries were curbed down in part because people are poor, we have to play the game a bit, in order to recover and rise again, there is only so much we can afford to sacrifice

[@dvepps6780]

A big reason I have been able to continually organize politically is because I do that work through my labor union. I would never have had the time, the connections, or the resources to be involved politically if it wasn't for that.

[@kavehrafie5222]

the overall tendency of culturilizing is an impediment to understanding of the class. i find the assertuon that we need more bourdieu hilarious. it is as if the entire project of replacing class with habitus and inserting cultural contingency has never ended up in the projects championed by Stuart Halls and others who erased the class position

[@CommunistConsensus]

A federal job guarantee, at a living wage, is an integral part of any progressive change.

[@CommunistConsensus]

Societies form to allow specialization such that provisioning can be done more efficiently and in greater volumes for all of its members. Healthy and holistic citizens advocate nurturing policies and will not begrudge resource usage with best practices procedures to see the nurturing done. The assumptions are based on the idea that whatever provisions are produced will be applied to the meeting of basic needs equitably. They are also based on the idea that everyone will have more time to focus on quality of life enhancements, equitably. But, most of all, although often unspoken, it is founded on the idea that the members who do not proclaim themselves political sociopaths with their actions warrant optimal autonomy and not just to simply survive. Consensus seeking strategies are what create the possibility of a society. Anything less creates a war zone. As such these are the foundational topics of establishing a healthy society. Democracy is a measure of the quantity of consensus, not its quality. Political sociopath: Someone who is willing to do harm to another for the sake of opportunity, social capital, hierarchy, profit and/or pleasure. Only a reduction in our tolerance of bad faith and political sociopathy will move us forward. Those seeking the chaotic free for all, or those seeking the hierarchies of ownership or competitive meritocracy facilitate the political sociopathy. All governance will descend into oligarchy, plutocracy and fascism at rates that are determined by the quality and stability of its consensus seeking strategies, the tolerance of bad faith actors in its processes, its best practices policies and the documentation of data that goes into the making of its policy choices. They cannot be compared outside that framework in regard to speed of that descent.

[@mandys1505]

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[@shellyshelly9218]

I'm sorry but her understanding of the working class as an embattled minority is part of the problem and represents a liberal POV on class (which is the problem with Class War more generally - they see the class struggle as involving the middle versus the working class). "There are very few working-class academics" is nonsense, they're more and more proletarianised. Almost everybody is working class and it's because we make up the vast majority that we have the potential to overturn capitalism. Socialists can't afford to see class as yet another minority identity.

[@shellyshelly9218]

But this is still a very interesting discussion.

[@suzieoh1]

You make valuable points. Let’s say we take that luxury for the sake of understanding this talk, though? I’d like to know if there are as Lisa says, few academics are working class in the traditional sense of the word. To me, this talk is eye-opening.

[@shellyshelly9218]

@@suzieoh1 Even if you accept a Bourdieuian definition of working-class, the claim is suspect. I work at a provincial post-92 university in the UK and almost all of the lecturers are working-class in the sociological sense (state school, no capital reserves, etc.). In the Marxist sense, all of them are, of course.

[@MarieJoseO]

Bidden helpt niet, je stelt God voor een dilemma; wanneer aanhangers van twee voetbalteams bidden dat hún team moet winnen

[@cenicholas3251]

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