Understanding Dream On

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12tone

12tone

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@12tone
@12tone 3 жыл бұрын
Some additional thoughts/corrections: 1) So, full disclosure: I'm not actually 100% sure all the guitar parts I described were Joe Perry. Aerosmith has two guitarists, so some of them could've been Brad Whitford too. I couldn't find any definitive documentation on who played what, but Perry's generally the lead guitarist and most of the parts I was referencing were lead guitar parts so I think it was him. Apologies to Whitford if I was wrong, though. 2) Ok technically that run at the end of the intro includes both E and Eb so it's not quite F harmonic minor but the Eb is really fast and I decided it didn't matter enough to be worth explaining. 3) To be clear I don't think Tyler was _actually_ confused in the prechorus. It's just a good way of framing the changes, but if I don't say this here I'm gonna get a bunch of comments accusing me of underestimating Steven Tyler or whatever. 4) Another detail on that anecdote: When I sang this back in college, the arrangement we used was for an all-girl group and was pitched up a half-step, so when I did did the high part I was hitting A5, not Ab5 like Tyler does. That was pretty much the literal top of my range: On a good day I could warm up to around the Bb, and with coaching I could make it a little higher than that, but A5 was basically the top. (And I definitely can't hit it anymore, in case you were wondering.)
@spiderine1prime
@spiderine1prime 3 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your channel for years. I love the light hearted ways teach music theory, and I follow your little doodles with glee. But I give up - that one drawing you use repeatedly is an ant? Is that right? What does that mean? I've been trying to decipher for years but I can't figure it out. Please help me out of my misery?
@loganstrong5426
@loganstrong5426 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiderine1prime He does regularly draw an ant, so I'm assuming you're right in that's what you're referring to. Usually he uses it to talk about something small, or something that follows a group.
@mundolibertario1127
@mundolibertario1127 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video understanding "Every breath you Take"? It is one of my favorite songs and I'd like to know how, despite the creepy lyrics, they were able to create a romance vibe with the melody (Sorry for my english. It is not my native language)
@Kiaulen
@Kiaulen 3 жыл бұрын
It's okay, Corey (Cory? I don't think I've ever seen your name written), I couldn't hit that A5 today either, and I can't claim to have ever been able to in the past. Anything above middle C is tiring for my voice. My soprano wife might be able to though :P I'm glad both that you had a life before and that I get to watch elephants and gummy bears now. :) You got me onto nebula just so I can keep up with ghost notes.
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione 3 жыл бұрын
Its missing the bass sounds or is my yt weird
@braumm1476
@braumm1476 3 жыл бұрын
"Before the Elephants took over." It's not possible for me to express how much I love that sentence. I am stealing it to use out of context as much as I can.
@jlfrandsen
@jlfrandsen 3 жыл бұрын
I lol'd at that as well. And want it in my vocal arsenal
@arnoldwardenaar127
@arnoldwardenaar127 3 жыл бұрын
It truly had me in stitches
@1972LittleC
@1972LittleC 3 жыл бұрын
It's right besides Dominique Noble's "one by one, the penguins stole my sanity" shirt.
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
@@1972LittleC That used to be all over Linux in the late 90s with "Tux" (the penguin mascot of Linux). The origin is allegedly a lot darker, though.
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma Жыл бұрын
That line plus that doodle of the elephant holding a flag should be on a T-shirt. If you want, you can put the 12tone logo on the flag.
@benjamink7105
@benjamink7105 Жыл бұрын
This is the song I always point to if anyone asks "was Aerosmith even any good?" Such an exceptionally well written song. The first few seconds DESERVED those 1,000 words!
@Iwasbornin74
@Iwasbornin74 3 жыл бұрын
That feeling when you voted for Welcome to the Black Parade for the millionth time in a row but you’re always basking in the glory of how well this song was explained.
@NotSomeone68
@NotSomeone68 3 жыл бұрын
Generic comment to increase engagement statistics.
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks 3 жыл бұрын
"Before the elephants took over" Very ominous
@T3sl4
@T3sl4 3 жыл бұрын
An elephant, never, forgets. *Switchblade goes shink*
@scully5860
@scully5860 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's lying - there is no life before the elephants, for any of us!
@matthewdhewlett
@matthewdhewlett 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your analysis of "Sultans of Swing" by Dire Straits. The rock song about a jazz band, where the instruments are often used as sound effects to reflect the lyrics.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 3 жыл бұрын
The guitar fills alone could be a video on their own. Holy crap I love that song.
@colinsmith5879
@colinsmith5879 3 жыл бұрын
Sultans is a straight masterpiece
@adriatic.vineyards
@adriatic.vineyards 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@Osric24
@Osric24 3 жыл бұрын
A great song about a shitty little jazz band.
@you_were_the_chosen_one
@you_were_the_chosen_one 3 жыл бұрын
I really love that idea. Dire Straits is such a great band, and Sultans of Swing is one of their best songs.
@happyron
@happyron 3 жыл бұрын
Power ballad balances emotional sincerity and over the top drama. Wow
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy
@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy 3 жыл бұрын
Joey Kramer and Tom Hamilton don't get NEARLY enough credit for all the work they do in Aerosmith. Those drums and that bass is what brings emotional weight!
@drac3650
@drac3650 3 жыл бұрын
Love in an Elevator is a great example of this, hearing it with little bass is basically musical murder.
@thesamarawaters
@thesamarawaters 3 жыл бұрын
“before the elephants took over” *the 12Tone cinematic universe now has lore*
@launder0
@launder0 3 жыл бұрын
"Before the elephants took over..." that delivery was just so perfect hahaha
@Daplin1
@Daplin1 3 жыл бұрын
When you finally realise these comments mean the nail on his thumb
@p.g.v.3765
@p.g.v.3765 3 жыл бұрын
fr i thought they were talking about the thumbnail of the video
@patricksommer3971
@patricksommer3971 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooohh!! Thanks for clearing that up!
@JeighNeither
@JeighNeither 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they were talking about the video thumbnail myself, because that's proper grammar.
@sxywyka
@sxywyka 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite band getting an analysis by 12tone? Hell ya!! As a bass player, nobody gets why I love Tom Hamilton and consider him one of the bests! Other bassists like Geddy Lee, Flea, Victor Wooten and more legends just blow me away when I learn those ridiculously hard lines, but bassists like Justin Chancellor and Tom Hamilton just know how to make the most out of the least!!!
@Kyle-gw6qp
@Kyle-gw6qp 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of Steve Harris?
@DavidMacDonald
@DavidMacDonald 3 жыл бұрын
"It’s not really a chord thing at all. It’s a voice-leading thing." - ONCE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
@Nightfire613
@Nightfire613 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna take a hot second to brag. My sister and brother-in-law were both audio technicians, and my BIL worked with Aerosmith once upon a time. He was pretty friendly with Tom Hamilton, and ended up getting a bass from Hamilton as a gift. My BIL was grateful, but didn't really play bass, so guess who he gave it to when he found out she played bass (hint: not my sister)! The fact that I own one of Tom Hamilton's basses is literally the only cool thing about me, but goddamn is it cool
@MadassAlex
@MadassAlex 3 жыл бұрын
That's sick! My claim to anything similar is that my Gibson SG was signed by Marty Friedman, long time guitarist of Megadeth and Japanese game show host.
@Steveofthejungle8
@Steveofthejungle8 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Perry the Platypus 😂
@patricksommer3971
@patricksommer3971 3 жыл бұрын
Damn spoiler!
@SachinShukla
@SachinShukla 3 жыл бұрын
4:25 in classical parlance, this is a bassline commonly called a “morte” and is often used to signify tragedy. it is related to a common opening gambit called a “lamento” (1 b7 b6 5).
@elizabethpemberton8445
@elizabethpemberton8445 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking to the power of the song, I was in junior high and high school in rural Ohio between 1981-1987. We had multiple dances each year, and the last song at each alternated between "Stairway to Heaven" and "Dream On," neither of which is actually relevant to young infatuation in the ways we wanted them to be, but each of which allowed one last slow dance. I remember thinking they were old songs. "Stairway" was all of 10 years old and "Dream On" was 8...Anyway, "Dream On" felt the same way as "Stairway" - epic and timeless and profound and full of melancholy, and boy, my teen girl heart ate that up. My old lady heart still does.
@Wildefire42
@Wildefire42 3 жыл бұрын
"Before the elephants took over.." The delivery on that line was absolutely perfect and so surprising. Well done!
@johnnyRandomadness
@johnnyRandomadness 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you bring a broken down music theory analysis into songs that were written and played out of pure natural chemistry.
@lesgoe8908
@lesgoe8908 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you are one of those rare people whose left and right brains are equally dominant. Your deep visual creativity, verbal wit, humor, and eloquence, musical wisdom, and video production flair come together in your sparkling KZbin channel. (This channel probably only represents a small percentage of your creative/analytical skills.) Superb work all around. Call me a new subscriber.
@andrew_oid
@andrew_oid 3 жыл бұрын
2:56 I had my left earphone off and I was so confused why there was an awkward silence.
@Vague05
@Vague05 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I read your comment about a second after I realised 😂
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Steven Tyler wrote this when he was 14 makes absolute sense. Who else believes beyond a shadow of a doubt that they've lived many lives and learned so much about the world in their time on earth more than teenagers?
@MadassAlex
@MadassAlex 3 жыл бұрын
Chill
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadassAlex no
@cameronblanchette6687
@cameronblanchette6687 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that did not feel like 18 mins, that felt like 5. Great work my dude
@JeighNeither
@JeighNeither 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I heard this; I thought to myself, what is this unbelievably beautiful dramabomb of a song? I even remember feeling some of the exact same reactions that 12tone points to in his analysis.
@JeighNeither
@JeighNeither 3 жыл бұрын
@Soy Orbison At one point in my early twenties I got tired of it, but I'm a musician/composer & have sometimes foolishly turned away from older music in an effort to chart new territory, but I've always come back to the good stuff. Writing that song at their age, was a really spectacular achievement, that still gives me a cinematic experience
@ChristopherLaHaise
@ChristopherLaHaise 3 жыл бұрын
Master of the Power Ballad from 70s through the 90s. Meatloaf.
@treyslider6954
@treyslider6954 3 жыл бұрын
To me, the back-and-forth bits always sound like alarms. It's most noticable at the end of the song as everything else fades away and you're just left with the sound of ambulance sirens fading into the distance...
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the part of “Dream On” everyone remembers is when Tyler screamingly hits that high note, not the bridge. But I guess everyone experiences it differently.
@cbring458
@cbring458 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same
@tompw3141
@tompw3141 3 жыл бұрын
For me it's the times he's singing "dream on" *not* up the octave. :-)
@GlaceonStudios
@GlaceonStudios 3 жыл бұрын
...That is part of the bridge...
@jessehammer123
@jessehammer123 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlaceonStudios Oh. Yeah, I’m not a music theorist or even musician, so that’s kind of an expected mistake on my part. I just assumed it was a different part because Cory talks about the scream minutes after “the bridge”, so I assumed it was a different part.
@hinney827
@hinney827 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessehammer123 all the "Dream On" bits are the bridges. Songs don't always only have one bridge, though they can. The bridge is just the intermediate bit between the verse and chorus. It's a repeated part, so it's not part of the verse, but it's not technically the chorus proper. The bits beginning with "sing with me" are the chorus. The high, screaming "dream on" is just an extended, more exciting bridge to lead into the final chorus.
@yuothineyesasian
@yuothineyesasian 3 жыл бұрын
Has your thumbnail always been a lethal weapon or am I just noticing this for the first time?
@gunnaryoung
@gunnaryoung 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that myself. It would explain why he's holding his pen so awkwardly...
@Hardjaxl
@Hardjaxl 3 жыл бұрын
That nail scares me
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I noticed this starting a few months back, it’s become a legit sword since. Impressive.
@carlberry191
@carlberry191 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering the same. That nail is somehow disturbing.
@dripstein6130
@dripstein6130 3 жыл бұрын
Probably for playing guitar or cocaine, either or
@Shordanna
@Shordanna 3 жыл бұрын
Dream On was one of my signature songs when I used to go to karaoke a lot before the pandemic
@413ThatGuy
@413ThatGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it somewhere, but if you made a sold a shirt that used one (or all) of your drawings of the elephants with the phrase "...Before the Elephants Took Over!" I would buy the crap out of it, maybe a poster & stickers too. Just saying. Love watching & can't wait to see what you do next!
@kwarrtzorau7203
@kwarrtzorau7203 3 жыл бұрын
This is a surprisingly dissonant song when you actually take it apart!
@OGEdger
@OGEdger 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite song of all time.
@kevinwilson1228
@kevinwilson1228 Жыл бұрын
Having a lifetime in audio engineering, I find you one of the few on KZbin that just keeps amazing me with your musical education and appreciation for what the artist is trying to and how they are achieving their goal in real time!!🤩
@wiesorix
@wiesorix 3 жыл бұрын
As always, great analysis. In particular I love that enough time is spent on the voice leading part because too often I watch analysis videos by other people who just label the chords when much more seems to be going on.
@sethandseth2
@sethandseth2 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I also love is the song ending on a really muted cymbal crash and that guitar trill droning onward after the last chorus. There's no big climax it just kinda of goes until the song arbitrarily ends. There's something very haunting about the song and I think the majority of that comes from there being no resolution at the end.
@tylerphillips503
@tylerphillips503 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the coke nail in honor of Aerosmith
@adriatic.vineyards
@adriatic.vineyards 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Usually it's the pinky finger though 🤔
@rjr6912
@rjr6912 Жыл бұрын
​@@adriatic.vineyards hey man who are we to tell a man what nail to do his coke from?
@seandpizzle
@seandpizzle 8 ай бұрын
C'mon now. Everyone knows it's your pinky, not your thumb
@erock.steady
@erock.steady Жыл бұрын
such a respectfully reverent exploration of music and emotion - by the end i found i'd been moved... to tears. powerful stuff.
@blevens7251
@blevens7251 2 жыл бұрын
This song is such a work of genius that I can't explain the rest of their career.
@manitouparkguitaracademy
@manitouparkguitaracademy Жыл бұрын
holy shit, RIGHT?! one of my favorite songs from any group, yet i can mildly tolerate some other songs by them
@blazethebassman6335
@blazethebassman6335 3 жыл бұрын
This song is one of my favourite all time songs. So many memories of my childhood, the nostalgia.... It's the last song I'll ever listen to
@peterleventis
@peterleventis 3 жыл бұрын
Another great one. I loved the anecdote! Incidentally (and à propos of nothing), my cats really liked this one, and kept trying to get your hand
@ba45f723
@ba45f723 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the analysis
@liorzaphir5358
@liorzaphir5358 2 жыл бұрын
I really have to thank you. I came back to this channel after a while and it really reignited my love for music. I feel like we rarely really listen to music while focusing on it, and it transforms into such an emotional experience for me. Thanks a lot for all the good work :)
@managingbusiness141
@managingbusiness141 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! On top of your expert analysis and lovely drawings, you're just witty as heck and a joy to listen to. Sorry, that's probably laying it on too thick, but I keep forgetting to comment about how much I appreciate what you do! Looking forward to the next video!
@boomerdell
@boomerdell 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely BRILLIANT! Dang. You are just so very good at this.
@evileyeball
@evileyeball 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah I do overnight tech support and listen to things like this to keep me awake in the background between calls when processing emails that came in over the day. Right around when you talked about Power Chords I got an email from soneone asking for 3 Power cords for some laptops. I laughed.
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved this song, and I'm not an Aerosmith fan. But I never really thought of it as a power ballad, because it's doing all this unusual movement, which doesn't seem typical of power ballads. Also, I see the elephants closing in on me, ever so slowly...
@JamesOKeefe-US
@JamesOKeefe-US 3 жыл бұрын
Let me just say the editing in time at 13:45 was amazing. How long did that take? It was perfect 🤘🤘🤘 This whole episode was a master class in musical decomposition. Incredible as always.
@bludfyre
@bludfyre 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel... and I have to say every one of your videos I have watched so far have made me appreciate the songs you analyze so much more. I loved most of them (the songs I have watched are pretty iconic) but I understand now WHY I loved them.
@SaulHernandez-vh2rw
@SaulHernandez-vh2rw Жыл бұрын
You just got a new subscriber and oh man, you are amazing, I'll definately be watching all your videos, lots to learn here, thanks for the content man
@sangramos
@sangramos 3 жыл бұрын
Every video I watch of yours make me want to hear your singing! Especially since I’m trying to be a metal vocalist too lol
@viniciussaito7514
@viniciussaito7514 3 жыл бұрын
This is the song of my life, thanks for analyzing it with such detail! Amazing video, keep it up!!
@megdrew4345
@megdrew4345 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate music but know nothing about anything technical. It's nice to learn with modern songs and I love this format
@jamesdunn6376
@jamesdunn6376 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one for a while.
@shaman9
@shaman9 3 жыл бұрын
"...before the elephants took over" **thousand-yard stare**
@yeshevishman
@yeshevishman 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that sticks out for me the most about this video is that I never realized the weird mashup of the lead singer and guitarist's last names being (as you put it around 5:50). "Tyler and Perry" xD
@mundolibertario1127
@mundolibertario1127 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video understanding "Every breath you Take"? It is one of my favorite songs and I'd like to know how, despite the creepy lyrics, they were able to create a romance vibe with the melody (Sorry for my english. It is not my native language)
@danielhayun304
@danielhayun304 3 жыл бұрын
great request! also don't apologize. I don't think you had grammar errors, but I am also not a native english speaker so what do I know🙃 a lot of us aren't native speakers and using a second language regularly in conversations on the internet is the best thing you can do to learn and get better
@mitodrumisra8972
@mitodrumisra8972 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielhayun304 well said 😃😃
@p.g.v.3765
@p.g.v.3765 3 жыл бұрын
song request are done through patreon, only patreon supporters can request and vote for songs to analyze
@grimdarkartist9176
@grimdarkartist9176 3 жыл бұрын
As an overly pedantic native speaker, your grammar is almost perfect (better than most native speakers I see on the internet) and the couple of errors you do have don’t make it difficult to understand what you’re saying. The only one that I find noteworthy is saying romance instead of romantic. You’re describing the vibe of the song, so you want to use the adjective (romantic) instead of the noun (romance). When in doubt, remember that -(t)ic and -al are used on the end of nouns to make them into adjectives.
@mundolibertario1127
@mundolibertario1127 3 жыл бұрын
@@p.g.v.3765 Oh.... I didn't know that.... Are you a patreon supporter? If yes, could you request him to analyze this song please?
@rorysparshott4223
@rorysparshott4223 3 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff always but this was one of my favourite ones you've done yet
@markusszelbracikowski956
@markusszelbracikowski956 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! And do Brothers in Arms, please!
@Nomar.Norono
@Nomar.Norono 3 жыл бұрын
Rock is not dead, it's in my blood!
@overtonesnteatime198
@overtonesnteatime198 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis indeed. Thank you.
@biswadipdutta7324
@biswadipdutta7324 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is the first video I watched from your channel. Subscribed instantly. … but I have soo many questions 🥺
@jonnuanez2843
@jonnuanez2843 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this. Thank you.
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a breakdown of what PMJ did to this song. Obviously, theirs was accommodating insane vocals and translating it to a lounge feel, but they took it in a whole other direction, still powerful (though Morgan James' vocal performance may be the defining factor in that, but they definitely gave an environment for her voice to shine in), but with a completely different feel.
@SituationAbnormal
@SituationAbnormal 3 жыл бұрын
My god, what a wonderful musical lesson
@jackhemming6128
@jackhemming6128 3 жыл бұрын
This video style is adhd heaven
@mauriciohernandez7966
@mauriciohernandez7966 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Crazy beautiful analysis
@wardkoole745
@wardkoole745 3 жыл бұрын
aerosmith has a giant collection of underrated bangers imo
@katherineheasley6196
@katherineheasley6196 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I keep my radio tuned to classic rock, and whenever an Aerosmith song comes on, it's a guaranteed good time.
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 3 жыл бұрын
I love this song and have been hoping you'd cover it
@iamjimgroth
@iamjimgroth 3 жыл бұрын
This was an enjoyable analysis. :)
@kutluaycelik5376
@kutluaycelik5376 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@pbentle1990
@pbentle1990 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was first learning this song and I had dad, who was my inspiration to learning guitar, also look at it. He mentioned that the verse arpeggio sounds almost like a lullaby. Given the songs name that has always stuck with me
@danielx40
@danielx40 2 жыл бұрын
Sing with me~ sing for the year~ sing for the laughter sing for the tears~
@BruceScottThrelkeld
@BruceScottThrelkeld 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, as always!
@dropkickmolotov
@dropkickmolotov 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that the sporadic-ness of this song is what makes it genius. Yet Steven Tyler's vocals crushed. I'm a fan of music in general but I will always give praise for something "out of the box"
@PivasRox
@PivasRox 2 жыл бұрын
I was learning this song a few days ago and I was trying to analyze the harmony and I just couldn't. It's not like any classical harmony that I faced in college. Thank you for this content!
@Srynan
@Srynan 2 жыл бұрын
Here I sit, terrified, pondering his statement: "I had a life before this, you know - before the elephants took over." What if he is posessed by them? What if this is a cry for help? Anyways... Dream on.
@piratecheese13
@piratecheese13 3 жыл бұрын
heard this on my way home today, perfect timing
@random-potato9803
@random-potato9803 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else enjoy watching/listening to this, while understanding nothing?
@FatMan2539
@FatMan2539 3 жыл бұрын
When you played the isolated instruments I could really appreciate just how much of this song was sampled in the Eminem song Sing for the Moment
@quietone610
@quietone610 3 жыл бұрын
Homage? Tribute? He knew his emotions.
@Exspazament
@Exspazament 3 жыл бұрын
@@quietone610 sampled. It's sampled.:-3
@quietone610
@quietone610 3 жыл бұрын
My point was, he could have sampled anything in common time, and chose this.
@adriatic.vineyards
@adriatic.vineyards 3 жыл бұрын
@@quietone610 ??
@quietone610
@quietone610 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriatic.vineyards He chose this exact chorus and these exact vocals to reflect what he was feeling. Some people just pick samples because they're feeling lazy, on the day it is to write their backing track.
@AngelicDirt
@AngelicDirt 3 жыл бұрын
~17:40 - ... 12, would you like to talk about the elephants? Do you see them in your dreams? Do they speak to you? What do they say?
@evolancer211
@evolancer211 6 ай бұрын
That's a powerful thumbnail you've got there on your thumb. Bet it picks really well hah
@SiWeeMann
@SiWeeMann 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite Aerosmith track. Thanks for the analysis.
@wewladstbh
@wewladstbh 3 жыл бұрын
dream ooonnnn dream oooooonnnnnnnnnnn
@maria.garavaglia
@maria.garavaglia 3 жыл бұрын
Re: the verse melody: It's interesting to me how you mentioned that swapping the two phrases wouldn't really work. To me the swapped phrases sound a lot like just an antecedent/consequent setup...
@1oolabob
@1oolabob 3 жыл бұрын
Just a small tip for other viewers who--like me--aren't expert music theorists, but are learning from 12Tone's videos...if we can keep up. There's a lot of good analysis here, and lots to learn. Click the gear-shaped icon at the bottom of the video. Select "playback speed", and click "0.75". It will slow down the quick-fire info-stream slightly without making everything sound too weird. You might catch a lot more useful info this way. The music will sound a fourth lower, so maybe don't tune your keyboard to it.
@johncu7101
@johncu7101 3 жыл бұрын
Steven Tyler watching this: *Interesting*
@ChrisPreece
@ChrisPreece 3 жыл бұрын
The Ab5 of Dream On was basically my party trick for a while. Still kind of is, though I've thankfully found another couple of songs with Ab5 or A5s I like. I guess for most people seeing an overweight male baritone who can consistently hit and hold a note like that is something unusual.
@zackf192
@zackf192 3 жыл бұрын
One of the earliest riff i ever learned
@maurobraunstein9497
@maurobraunstein9497 3 жыл бұрын
The C - Db - G chord at the beginning is actually either a Gdim (iio) with a C pedal point or a C7b9 (V7). I think adding a Bb to this chord would not change its function, similar to how you can remove a fifth from a triad without changing its function, but the question is whether the complete chord would have an F or an E. If F, the chord is Gø7/C; if E, the chord is C7b9. Both are perfectly sensible in F minor, with the Gø7 being plagal and the C7b9 being authentic. Since the E would really change the sound of the chord, I hear it as the Gø7/C rather than the C7b9; adding the F wouldn't change it much either. I would argue that hearing this chord as purely a voice-leading phenomenon misses the actual functional value of the chord, which *is* present (and I would also argue that the Eb7 interpretation, which would add an Eb rather than an E natural or F, changes the sound entirely too much by adding a new root).
@CMM5300
@CMM5300 3 жыл бұрын
So G half dim add11 What about Gsusb5? A locrian triad borrowed from Dorian. The third chord vi Dmin7b5 is already borrowed from Dorian So the first 2 chords are minor The last to chords are Dorian. I see it like this. The last 2 chords. D half dim borrow from dorian Dbmaj7b5 is a hidden chord from Lydian that fits the minor key i| v| vi°| bVIb5 Someone else came up with Bb7 as a secondary dom and Db dim maj7 as hidden harmonic minor vi chord Fm| Cm |Bb7| Db dim maj7
@jgwire
@jgwire 3 жыл бұрын
great stuff - music theory and reading is so important/ however i doubt Aerosmith sat down and discussed these ideas and wrote scores for main Rock instruments- not that you said they did! lol it it’d important for me to remember several things when studying this: It has this written score- and so did orchestration /. But song was actually written based on music intsinct, intuition/ and above all Talent- these guys didn’t know they were doing classic music forms- they just wrote a song, based on their influences But they were influenced by songs that just naturally do what you explain so they soaked it up and can do it but not name it You are a great music theory expert and musicologist/ hearing this explanation is fantastic- But i’m sure you would agree that most classic rock and modern rock even is just born of playing - not writing on music- but, as I said, the greats either instinctively knew this or absorbed it somewhere else without even knowing it / if they did they’d be stealing!!! lol LOVE UR channel/ fascinating 🤨
@PaulInPorirua
@PaulInPorirua 3 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing to see you approach Alter Bridge’s “Blackbird” in this way.
@Hawking1969
@Hawking1969 3 жыл бұрын
5:39 Was there a bass part there? I didn't hear anything
@ganjiblobflankis6581
@ganjiblobflankis6581 3 жыл бұрын
6:05 🎵And I'm feelin' good🎵
@MRTV-ck2nd
@MRTV-ck2nd 3 жыл бұрын
I think that "droning" note is known as a pedal note (a note sustained in one part through successive harmonies, some of which are independent of it.)
@rickwoods5274
@rickwoods5274 3 жыл бұрын
OKAY so I know you said at the beginning that the chord names don't matter, but I can't help but think about them anyway. (Besides, even though the individual lines provide most of the interest, the relationships between the notes *do* matter and contribute to the feeling. Especially that minor second.) The biggest thing for me in trying to understand the relationships between the notes (and therefore name the chords) is the fact that in the first bar, the C "feels like" it's part of the chord, and in the second bar it doesn't. In the first bar, the notes "feel" like a semi-arpeggiated minor triad. But in the second bar, they feel like stepping back and forth between two mini-tonalities. Because of this, in trying to name the chords, I'm tempted to leave the C out entirely (and then "/C" it to complete the name). Put another way: It's there as a drone throughout both bars, but it also serves a secondary role. In the first bar it's serving a reinforcing role, while in the second bar it's serving a deliberately contrasting role. What this leaves is parallel tritones (D-Ab, then Db-G). A tritone is *usually* either the 3-b7 relationship in a dominant chord, or one of two tritones in a diminished chord. Imagining a root of E (Ab = G#, G# + D is 3 + b7 in E) is extremely strange, but Bb7 feels like a reasonable label here. It could also be Bdim7, but I think in context Bb7 makes more sense to me, mostly because I think the next chord is a Dbdim and the movement feels more natural. So, in my completely unimportant opinion: Fm/C Cm Bb7/C Dbdim/C.
@CMM5300
@CMM5300 3 жыл бұрын
So Bb7/9 then Dbmin7b5 Interesting. Here's what I come up with: i Fm v Cm vi D min7d5 (borrow dorian vi°) bVIb5 Dbmaj7b5 (hidden lydian) i | v | vi° | bVIb5 The D half dim or min7b5 (in this case it's resolving down not up. I believe that means it's a min7b5. Half dim resolves up. Is borrowed from Dorian. The 6 chord in Dorian is Half dim The Dbmaj7b5 (13b57 or 13#47) Is a hidden Lydian chord on the root of Lydian. Which is the bvi chord in minor. Borrow the hidden chord. bVIb5 (#4 might be more appropriate but that assumes using the 5th also.) It makes perfect sense to the minor key. It's a very complicated chord progression to figure out. I also came up with Gsusb5 for the last chord. It resolves nicely to Fm. That's 1 4 b5 Fm| Cm| Dmin7b5 |Gsusb5 I liked your idea also. I was searching to see if anyone else came up with anything good. Thanks!
@CMM5300
@CMM5300 3 жыл бұрын
Your Db dim maj7 works as a harmonic minor hidden bvi chords. the Bb7 could be a secondary dom. That could really work! Nice find!
@clarkcombs7243
@clarkcombs7243 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna admit I am not a musician but I do listen to historical documentaries WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA that DREAM ON is the perfect power ballad I grew up listening to it I personally wasn't aware it was classified as a power ballad a heavy metal band called MOTLEY CRUE created the power ballad in the first place called HOME SWEET HOME, Tommy Lee's double kicks and Mick Mars's solo which was exquisite are what in my mind makes it a power ballad but all in all your wasn't inaccurate
@SnowghostFilms
@SnowghostFilms Жыл бұрын
Actually tried singing this song at one of my school’s open mic. Forgot half the lyrics in the first half and probably did a C#5 in the high part, not G#5. Solve those problems and I was a great frontman with no backing members because it was karaoke
@HubLocationSound
@HubLocationSound 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure it wouldn’t be nearly as interesting, but I was always curious about how/why Aerosmith’s “Walk This Way” works so well. The main riff is in E minor pentatonic blues but the verse/chorus are in C major and back n forth it goes.
@KennethWestervelt
@KennethWestervelt 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that older Opeth songs are so long, because I think that a video covering some of the structural choices they made in Still Life & Blackwater Park were absolutely 💯. They tended to meander from riff to riff back then, but cycling back to a prior riff let you know the piece was nearing its end. For 7+ minute songs, the repetition is a pretty good choice. So yeah, if you want to cover song structures more than chord choices... They could be a good reference to use?
@wynnburton
@wynnburton Жыл бұрын
Oooo this makes me want to hear an analysis of Damn Yankees’ High Enough
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