Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

11 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold presents a lecture at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis on understanding strategic ideas and small advantages. He looks at a 1992 game between GM Anatoly Karpov and GM Gata Kamsky.
2013.06.20

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@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.
@ikinoktace1280
@ikinoktace1280 4 жыл бұрын
People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays
@joeljose182
@joeljose182 3 жыл бұрын
Named before*
@michaellhoover94
@michaellhoover94 3 жыл бұрын
Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!
@otakurocklee
@otakurocklee 2 жыл бұрын
Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.
@BrezHurley
@BrezHurley 8 жыл бұрын
Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me. ~Ben Finegld
@re4072
@re4072 7 жыл бұрын
"What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"
@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
Very suspicious move on his part.
@dominikernst77
@dominikernst77 4 жыл бұрын
the truth hurts
@mortadahasaad530
@mortadahasaad530 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@diegogarcia4255
@diegogarcia4255 3 жыл бұрын
Cried like a Grandmaster
@wizardseye
@wizardseye 10 жыл бұрын
His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.
@herzwatithink9289
@herzwatithink9289 9 жыл бұрын
My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!
@user-tc6bx1wy4m
@user-tc6bx1wy4m 7 жыл бұрын
عتردحس
@johngreco8498
@johngreco8498 9 жыл бұрын
This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha
@WalyB01
@WalyB01 6 жыл бұрын
The knight might go there later.....
@gregoroque
@gregoroque 5 жыл бұрын
"That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!
@ronclass1782
@ronclass1782 5 жыл бұрын
I figured that out in less than a minute
@msDanielp369
@msDanielp369 4 жыл бұрын
He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one
@mrtampham
@mrtampham 6 жыл бұрын
Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king. This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.
@jpg6296
@jpg6296 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.
@1rauno
@1rauno 7 жыл бұрын
"Mate is good, because then you win!"
@user-hx4ur5mw9c
@user-hx4ur5mw9c 5 жыл бұрын
;0 в
@German1184
@German1184 3 жыл бұрын
I am taking notes lol
@buttkrustable
@buttkrustable 9 жыл бұрын
not only did i learn a lot from this but this guy was funny as hell. i need to see more of him.
@JamieTransNyc
@JamieTransNyc 3 жыл бұрын
You will be lucky in that regard, there is a lot of Ben Finegold to see.... at least 280lbs.
@EVANGELOSS54
@EVANGELOSS54 5 жыл бұрын
Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis
@aliveli-hq6zk
@aliveli-hq6zk 8 жыл бұрын
"When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 4 жыл бұрын
Just promote the knight idiot. Frankly ridiculous
@Pain420
@Pain420 3 жыл бұрын
Ben is big brain
@Kaanfight
@Kaanfight 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@samsadax230
@samsadax230 4 ай бұрын
Karpov's positional skills are unmatched.
@spartnstarcraft2
@spartnstarcraft2 9 жыл бұрын
this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.
@mitchellhodgemeyer
@mitchellhodgemeyer 7 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).
@rafaelgmota
@rafaelgmota 7 жыл бұрын
Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD
@stopit405
@stopit405 3 жыл бұрын
His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.
@hplovecraftmacncheese
@hplovecraftmacncheese 8 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.
@boschmidt7824
@boschmidt7824 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.
@joseluisparreno4999
@joseluisparreno4999 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.
@iamnahidashrafuday
@iamnahidashrafuday 9 ай бұрын
These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 9 жыл бұрын
I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22
@fisheatsyourhead
@fisheatsyourhead 6 жыл бұрын
highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer
@thijsyo
@thijsyo 5 жыл бұрын
The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial
@walterparker2641
@walterparker2641 10 жыл бұрын
The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on KZbin,
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 9 жыл бұрын
Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.
@toastersman217
@toastersman217 10 жыл бұрын
A very instructive video! Thank you!
@ss9392
@ss9392 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me
@ivek7773
@ivek7773 10 жыл бұрын
Man this guy just made my day
@Uerdue
@Uerdue 4 жыл бұрын
3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!
@rgsliwa8298
@rgsliwa8298 6 жыл бұрын
A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious, not that im insulting you 😂😂
@petersodhi1762
@petersodhi1762 7 жыл бұрын
Superb analysis and presentation
@iehudim
@iehudim 10 жыл бұрын
thank you for this precious videos
@myriadwhims
@myriadwhims 11 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 9 жыл бұрын
Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!
@bhuvanc4992
@bhuvanc4992 10 жыл бұрын
As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!
@MyRook
@MyRook 11 жыл бұрын
Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.
@tarzanhedgepeth354
@tarzanhedgepeth354 8 жыл бұрын
I actually like this game as much as the Fischer-Spassky 1972 game 6. It really revealed a lot about positional playing and also showed the wisdom of both players. Even in championship games, it's not easy to see how the loser was playing very well usually (it always looks so easy watching, though, doesn't it...?)
@Tobias-fe2hm
@Tobias-fe2hm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 5 жыл бұрын
You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!
@oshanmodi
@oshanmodi 10 жыл бұрын
I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...
@JamesJones-oq7hy
@JamesJones-oq7hy 9 жыл бұрын
your lectures are awesome
@dangelobenjamin
@dangelobenjamin 10 жыл бұрын
Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC
@xhemalvezi3999
@xhemalvezi3999 5 жыл бұрын
It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.
@Chris-if1di
@Chris-if1di 7 жыл бұрын
Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!
@Freddy-xx3uf
@Freddy-xx3uf 7 жыл бұрын
also known as 1min18
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 3 жыл бұрын
Nice catch!
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!
@mathewmgmg
@mathewmgmg 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!! One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@craig7102
@craig7102 9 жыл бұрын
thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of
@Samuel-cu9vo
@Samuel-cu9vo 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40
@johnhechtlinger9465
@johnhechtlinger9465 5 жыл бұрын
nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....
@johnmichael642
@johnmichael642 5 жыл бұрын
wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O
@mottian
@mottian 8 жыл бұрын
5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D
@followingtheroe1952
@followingtheroe1952 8 жыл бұрын
+Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.
@itrofimow
@itrofimow 8 жыл бұрын
+Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said
@tze-weilim1632
@tze-weilim1632 8 жыл бұрын
I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.
@Dybbouk
@Dybbouk 2 жыл бұрын
Great game. Great explanation.
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!
@gmcenroe
@gmcenroe 9 жыл бұрын
really nice lecture and funny at the same time
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын
Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..
@federicogarcia4446
@federicogarcia4446 8 жыл бұрын
+kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын
Your`e correct!
@adatta3046
@adatta3046 7 жыл бұрын
His jokes are just terrible.
@Spiderhip
@Spiderhip 7 жыл бұрын
Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.
@johnkom2339
@johnkom2339 6 жыл бұрын
His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
"That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 Жыл бұрын
Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator
@stanleygsf
@stanleygsf 11 жыл бұрын
Yaay! Fun lecture!
@tharkanzox1493
@tharkanzox1493 7 жыл бұрын
We need ben finegold back
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 10 жыл бұрын
This is just awesome
@anasbouayad6826
@anasbouayad6826 6 жыл бұрын
Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent
@thetransferaccount4586
@thetransferaccount4586 6 ай бұрын
nice lecture
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"
@GymChess
@GymChess 11 жыл бұрын
Nice lecture and nice guy.
@maelstrom57
@maelstrom57 11 жыл бұрын
more from Ben!
@daveanthony3880
@daveanthony3880 7 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD
@joshuahunter7972
@joshuahunter7972 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.
@manictiger
@manictiger 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form? Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын
I swear Karpov was a computer.
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 5 жыл бұрын
jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.
@hiwibaba22
@hiwibaba22 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@sooooooooDark
@sooooooooDark 2 жыл бұрын
43:43 man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there very hard for non titled players to understand 😢
@logansoileau8238
@logansoileau8238 3 жыл бұрын
The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.
@BizuteriaMoxie
@BizuteriaMoxie 4 жыл бұрын
I like his videos
@BravingTheOutDoors
@BravingTheOutDoors 10 жыл бұрын
what an incredible game
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.
@suleimanshaaban6586
@suleimanshaaban6586 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@illmaculatechess
@illmaculatechess 11 жыл бұрын
i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off
@tims7174
@tims7174 7 жыл бұрын
That picture in the beginning though....
@TheConcentrationmoon
@TheConcentrationmoon 8 жыл бұрын
i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!
@ThePawn-xi3zb
@ThePawn-xi3zb 5 жыл бұрын
14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.
@iMannyLP
@iMannyLP 4 жыл бұрын
34:47 why not qf3+ with followed checkmate qg3 or qh3??
@stateofmontanapal.2506
@stateofmontanapal.2506 4 жыл бұрын
Great!
@SuperBono07
@SuperBono07 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is ''strategic position'' means?.
@RonakBadhe
@RonakBadhe 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32
@thorn35
@thorn35 5 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.
@youngadultsuis
@youngadultsuis 10 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold for president!!!!
@nfltrrrqwsa7512
@nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 жыл бұрын
To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.
@davidburkhardt4044
@davidburkhardt4044 3 жыл бұрын
Put speed at 75 percent and Ben sounds like the town drunk teaching chess lol
@thomasrebotier1741
@thomasrebotier1741 4 жыл бұрын
At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade
@blessedbethelord4835
@blessedbethelord4835 7 жыл бұрын
isn't pawn h4-h6 at 33:29 mate? why did karpov check with the bishop? is their something im missing?
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 7 жыл бұрын
Blessed betheLord h6 is illegal, because that pawn has already moved, notice how it's on h4 not h2. he'd have to play h5 first which is risky because after black takes, his King can run forward.
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 7 жыл бұрын
Well actually h5 loses the Queen outright because there's no check stopping black from capturing it
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa there Ben.... you're a veggie? that's awesome man, good for you!!!
@Ty-yy7zr
@Ty-yy7zr Жыл бұрын
You have the C file? I want the C file.
@betuscb5707
@betuscb5707 9 жыл бұрын
buenas combinaciones estrategicas de ajedrez
@copypacer7464
@copypacer7464 7 жыл бұрын
16:00 i dont understand why closing up the position when you have the bishop pair
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 6 жыл бұрын
Well Karpov uses bishops to control counterplay rather than as attacking pieces most of the time.
@BabooVII
@BabooVII 11 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. This guy is funny
@skillywilly187
@skillywilly187 7 жыл бұрын
i see old man karpov still playing..whats his fide rating nowadays? also what was his best year rating? was he up in the mid 2800s ?
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын
Late 2700's afaik
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 6 жыл бұрын
If you adjust for rating inflation then actually he was late 2800s
@nubiankenpo
@nubiankenpo 7 жыл бұрын
The "Don Rickles" of chess. A dry humor savant.
@sebastianquilt
@sebastianquilt 7 жыл бұрын
Rickles was more jovial than this guy, whose attention span for humor is about 3 seconds, and who ought to partake in Impractical Jokers, finally, as Joe's fatter, smarter brother :) Great teacher, too.
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 5 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?
@daims8728
@daims8728 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 5 жыл бұрын
@@daims8728 Thanks!
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)
@gowri75
@gowri75 6 жыл бұрын
nice!!
@mottian
@mottian 8 жыл бұрын
6:30 "So, you go to the store and you buy chicken. Right Ben?"
@azi7783
@azi7783 6 жыл бұрын
What exactly did those people dislike about this video?! Very suspecious!
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