Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

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@herzwatithink9289
@herzwatithink9289 10 жыл бұрын
My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!
@أبومحمد-ث2ت7غ
@أبومحمد-ث2ت7غ 7 жыл бұрын
عتردحس
@wizardseye
@wizardseye 11 жыл бұрын
His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.
@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.
@ikinoktace1280
@ikinoktace1280 4 жыл бұрын
People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays
@joeljose182
@joeljose182 4 жыл бұрын
Named before*
@michaellhoover94
@michaellhoover94 3 жыл бұрын
Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!
@otakurocklee
@otakurocklee 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.
@sailorr4287
@sailorr4287 Ай бұрын
If I remember correctly (I don’t).
@BrezHurley
@BrezHurley 8 жыл бұрын
Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me. ~Ben Finegld
@mrtampham
@mrtampham 6 жыл бұрын
Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king. This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.
@jpg6296
@jpg6296 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.
@re4072
@re4072 8 жыл бұрын
"What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"
@Nic_DM
@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын
Very suspicious move on his part.
@dominikernst77
@dominikernst77 4 жыл бұрын
the truth hurts
@mortadahasaad530
@mortadahasaad530 4 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@diegogarcia4255
@diegogarcia4255 4 жыл бұрын
Cried like a Grandmaster
@johngreco8498
@johngreco8498 10 жыл бұрын
This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha
@WalyB01
@WalyB01 6 жыл бұрын
The knight might go there later.....
@gregoroque
@gregoroque 6 жыл бұрын
"That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!
@ronclass1782
@ronclass1782 5 жыл бұрын
I figured that out in less than a minute
@msDanielp369
@msDanielp369 5 жыл бұрын
He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one
@EVANGELOSS54
@EVANGELOSS54 6 жыл бұрын
Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis
@spartnstarcraft2
@spartnstarcraft2 10 жыл бұрын
this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.
@walterparker2641
@walterparker2641 11 жыл бұрын
The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on KZbin,
@mitchellhodgemeyer
@mitchellhodgemeyer 8 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).
@rafaelgmota
@rafaelgmota 8 жыл бұрын
Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD
@stopit405
@stopit405 4 жыл бұрын
His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.
@DiogenesNephew
@DiogenesNephew 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing more astounding than Karpov's play here is Kamsky's ridiculously impressive ability to find interesting solutions to seemingly impossible situations (to me, as I suck at chess).
@iamnahidashrafuday
@iamnahidashrafuday Жыл бұрын
These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!
@joseluisparreno4999
@joseluisparreno4999 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.
@1rauno
@1rauno 8 жыл бұрын
"Mate is good, because then you win!"
@ГоарЦаразон
@ГоарЦаразон 6 жыл бұрын
;0 в
@German1184
@German1184 4 жыл бұрын
I am taking notes lol
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 10 жыл бұрын
Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.
@boschmidt7824
@boschmidt7824 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.
@mathewmgmg
@mathewmgmg 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!! One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC
@MyRook
@MyRook 11 жыл бұрын
Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.
@rgsliwa8298
@rgsliwa8298 7 жыл бұрын
A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.
@StygianStyle
@StygianStyle 9 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.
@ss9392
@ss9392 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me
@ivek7773
@ivek7773 10 жыл бұрын
Man this guy just made my day
@mottian
@mottian 9 жыл бұрын
5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D
@followingtheroe1952
@followingtheroe1952 9 жыл бұрын
+Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.
@itrofimow
@itrofimow 9 жыл бұрын
+Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said
@aliveli-hq6zk
@aliveli-hq6zk 8 жыл бұрын
"When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638
@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 4 жыл бұрын
Just promote the knight idiot. Frankly ridiculous
@Pain420
@Pain420 4 жыл бұрын
Ben is big brain
@Kaanfight
@Kaanfight 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!
@orlandorodriguez1291
@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious, not that im insulting you 😂😂
@petersodhi1762
@petersodhi1762 8 жыл бұрын
Superb analysis and presentation
@bhuvanc4992
@bhuvanc4992 10 жыл бұрын
As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 9 жыл бұрын
I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22
@fisheatsyourhead
@fisheatsyourhead 7 жыл бұрын
highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer
@thijsyo
@thijsyo 5 жыл бұрын
The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 11 жыл бұрын
That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!
@Uerdue
@Uerdue 5 жыл бұрын
3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!
@xhemalvezi3999
@xhemalvezi3999 6 жыл бұрын
It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.
@UncleDansVintageVinyl
@UncleDansVintageVinyl Ай бұрын
Great video! I love Karpov because his play was so clean.
@Samuel-cu9vo
@Samuel-cu9vo 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40
@johnmichael642
@johnmichael642 6 жыл бұрын
wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O
@toastersman217
@toastersman217 11 жыл бұрын
A very instructive video! Thank you!
@angc214
@angc214 25 күн бұрын
I know Gata Kamsky because the first issue of Chess Life magazine I ever got covered Karpov playing Kamsky for the FIDE title. The PCA was still a thing at the time.
@joseruiz844
@joseruiz844 6 жыл бұрын
You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!
@Dontfollowplease
@Dontfollowplease 8 жыл бұрын
Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!
@Freddy-xx3uf
@Freddy-xx3uf 8 жыл бұрын
also known as 1min18
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 3 жыл бұрын
Nice catch!
@iehudim
@iehudim 11 жыл бұрын
thank you for this precious videos
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 11 жыл бұрын
"That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!
@orangebetsy
@orangebetsy 2 жыл бұрын
The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"
@oshanmodi
@oshanmodi 10 жыл бұрын
I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...
@tharkanzox1493
@tharkanzox1493 7 жыл бұрын
We need ben finegold back
@tze-weilim1632
@tze-weilim1632 9 жыл бұрын
I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.
@myriadwhims
@myriadwhims 11 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!
@dangelobenjamin
@dangelobenjamin 11 жыл бұрын
Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!
@johnhechtlinger9465
@johnhechtlinger9465 6 жыл бұрын
nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....
@fireballxl-5748
@fireballxl-5748 2 жыл бұрын
Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator
@craig7102
@craig7102 10 жыл бұрын
thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of
@joshuahunter7972
@joshuahunter7972 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.
@Tobias-fe2hm
@Tobias-fe2hm 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!
@sooooooooDark
@sooooooooDark 3 жыл бұрын
43:43 man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there very hard for non titled players to understand 😢
@TheConcentrationmoon
@TheConcentrationmoon 8 жыл бұрын
i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!
@daveanthony3880
@daveanthony3880 8 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD
@TexasSizzle
@TexasSizzle 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!
@JamesJones-oq7hy
@JamesJones-oq7hy 10 жыл бұрын
your lectures are awesome
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 6 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?
@daims8728
@daims8728 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move
@josephschenkel8956
@josephschenkel8956 6 жыл бұрын
@@daims8728 Thanks!
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 6 жыл бұрын
@@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)
@anasbouayad6826
@anasbouayad6826 6 жыл бұрын
Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 5 жыл бұрын
Leela says that 20...Nc6 was a significant inaccuracy. Recommending (I kid you not)... Na8 instead (I'm guessing to prepare b5)
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 5 жыл бұрын
I think 28... Qh4 was also a decent try for a draw. Fianchettoing the queen was possibly a mistake too. Honestly this game is a pain to analyse even with computers :P
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimately though it was probably Nd8 and b5 that were too passive. Well specifically playing b5 first made a lot more sense.
@manictiger
@manictiger 8 жыл бұрын
Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form? Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 8 жыл бұрын
I swear Karpov was a computer.
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 6 жыл бұрын
jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 9 жыл бұрын
Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..
@federicogarcia4446
@federicogarcia4446 9 жыл бұрын
+kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.
@kingcarisma
@kingcarisma 9 жыл бұрын
Your`e correct!
@adatta3046
@adatta3046 8 жыл бұрын
His jokes are just terrible.
@Spiderhip
@Spiderhip 8 жыл бұрын
Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.
@johnkom2339
@johnkom2339 7 жыл бұрын
His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.
@Dybbouk
@Dybbouk 3 жыл бұрын
Great game. Great explanation.
@thomasrebotier1741
@thomasrebotier1741 5 жыл бұрын
At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade
@gmcenroe
@gmcenroe 9 жыл бұрын
really nice lecture and funny at the same time
@mottian
@mottian 9 жыл бұрын
6:30 "So, you go to the store and you buy chicken. Right Ben?"
@Crazeyfor67
@Crazeyfor67 11 жыл бұрын
Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.
@skillywilly187
@skillywilly187 8 жыл бұрын
i see old man karpov still playing..whats his fide rating nowadays? also what was his best year rating? was he up in the mid 2800s ?
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 8 жыл бұрын
Late 2700's afaik
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 7 жыл бұрын
If you adjust for rating inflation then actually he was late 2800s
@MrBardun111
@MrBardun111 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 since black defended 2 times his pawn, why doesnt he move his other knight rather (d7)? that way he moves other pieces to develop instead same knigth 2 times. Sure ur bishop will be free now but like, ur other move hasnt moved yet and since we played pawn move to protecrt pawn, now we can play it without blockin our queen.
@logansoileau8238
@logansoileau8238 4 жыл бұрын
The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.
@bobmakin4991
@bobmakin4991 5 жыл бұрын
Why isn't this guy world championship he is smarter than everyone else
@blessedbethelord4835
@blessedbethelord4835 8 жыл бұрын
isn't pawn h4-h6 at 33:29 mate? why did karpov check with the bishop? is their something im missing?
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 8 жыл бұрын
Blessed betheLord h6 is illegal, because that pawn has already moved, notice how it's on h4 not h2. he'd have to play h5 first which is risky because after black takes, his King can run forward.
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 8 жыл бұрын
Well actually h5 loses the Queen outright because there's no check stopping black from capturing it
@rob__rob_5131
@rob__rob_5131 4 жыл бұрын
Is Finegold really a Vegetarian? If soo... I need his recipes!
@tims7174
@tims7174 7 жыл бұрын
That picture in the beginning though....
@Blaisem
@Blaisem 5 жыл бұрын
26:10 could black have just moved his queen to E7 instead of G7? Then repeat between E7 and F8 until white's queen gave up on this pinning tactic or accepted a draw?
@johnrainmcmanus6319
@johnrainmcmanus6319 11 жыл бұрын
Bh6 immediately (instead of f6) leads to mate, I think.
@krippp
@krippp 10 жыл бұрын
Bh6 is much worse, though White retains a bishop for 2 connected passed pawns. After Karpov's 49.f6+, his queen gets to f6 instead of g7, immediately ready to support a Bf3+. And if ..Kxh4, then also ready for Qf4#. It's mate in 9, because in that way Bf3 remains lethal. With 49.Bh6+, after the obvious 49..Kxh6 50.Qf8+ Bg7 51.g5+ Kh5 52.Qxg7, black would play 52..Qd3, and the Black queen blocks the 3rd rank from Kg3. Then, after the eventual Bf3+ with the White queen's support, Black's king can just take the pawn on h4 and avoid mate, having had plenty of time to bring his queen to e3, preventing Qf4#. So White would have to win some other way, and that game's gonna take a long time, giving drawing chances for Black.
@sleepyeyeguy
@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын
Go Dog Go! XD
@illmaculatechess
@illmaculatechess 11 жыл бұрын
i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off
@copypacer7464
@copypacer7464 7 жыл бұрын
16:00 i dont understand why closing up the position when you have the bishop pair
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 7 жыл бұрын
Well Karpov uses bishops to control counterplay rather than as attacking pieces most of the time.
@ThePawn-xi3zb
@ThePawn-xi3zb 6 жыл бұрын
14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.
@postnubilaphoebus96
@postnubilaphoebus96 10 жыл бұрын
What is he saying at 39:26 ? "He was playing like a (lunatech??) today and was completely lost. Down three pawns for nothing..." Sorry, I'm German.
@bennettjoseph9970
@bennettjoseph9970 10 жыл бұрын
He said, "lunatic".
@RonakBadhe
@RonakBadhe 7 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32
@nfltrrrqwsa7512
@nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 жыл бұрын
To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.
@thetransferaccount4586
@thetransferaccount4586 Жыл бұрын
nice lecture
@GymChess
@GymChess 11 жыл бұрын
Nice lecture and nice guy.
@pakchu2
@pakchu2 4 жыл бұрын
At 35:32 why not Qc3+ to trade Queens?
@bigm186
@bigm186 3 жыл бұрын
bf3 is check and will lose queen
@CentrifugalSatzClock
@CentrifugalSatzClock 6 жыл бұрын
With black already castled the Gruenfeld is not as good as when black has NOT castled yet and can use the tempo centrally to cause white problems. Kamsky playing C6 makes a LOT of sense!
@thorn35
@thorn35 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.
@pfsloan8230
@pfsloan8230 11 жыл бұрын
...unless you're playing me...can't stop laughing...can't breathe...passing out. OK I may be exaggerating but Ben is a (Grand) master at making a point with such pointed humor one can't help but remember the lesson.
@stanleygsf
@stanleygsf 11 жыл бұрын
Yaay! Fun lecture!
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 11 жыл бұрын
This is just awesome
@youngadultsuis
@youngadultsuis 10 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold for president!!!!
@maelstrom57
@maelstrom57 11 жыл бұрын
more from Ben!
@BizuteriaMoxie
@BizuteriaMoxie 5 жыл бұрын
I like his videos
@patrckhh20
@patrckhh20 8 жыл бұрын
What happened to Finegold's youtube account?
@sergi-13
@sergi-13 8 жыл бұрын
He closed it.. It's a pity because those videos were really good :(
@possumverde
@possumverde 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's going to sell those videos as lessons or something since he couldn't get enough financial support to warrant the work he was putting into his channel...?
@Freddy-xx3uf
@Freddy-xx3uf 8 жыл бұрын
no
@gregtaylor6146
@gregtaylor6146 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa there Ben.... you're a veggie? that's awesome man, good for you!!!
@vasilimici1032
@vasilimici1032 8 жыл бұрын
32:24 Karpov was not only threatening the knight but also checkmate: if blacks queen takes the bishop then, QxNd7+ Kg8-g7, f5-f6+ Kg7-h6, Qc8-f8# Edited: Later on Ba3-b2 was played to stop this idea
@vasilimici1032
@vasilimici1032 8 жыл бұрын
Also, queen can't stay on that diagonal at the time 32:24 because qxe8+ Kg7, f5-f6+ and now the queen has been lost
@Freddy-xx3uf
@Freddy-xx3uf 8 жыл бұрын
shut up you nerd
@BravingTheOutDoors
@BravingTheOutDoors 11 жыл бұрын
what an incredible game
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