Understanding the basics about fuel trims

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Hands On Auto Training

Hands On Auto Training

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@DallasAutoDiag
@DallasAutoDiag 3 жыл бұрын
After many many videos I have watched on fuel trims I never thought someone will come with a new approach. I think using the rc car is the best example I have ever seen on fuel trim. Well done. 👍
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment, I learn by analogies myself and have been looking at ways to get the point across for those that want to learn.
@Jedi_Masteren
@Jedi_Masteren 9 ай бұрын
One of the best presentations ever seen, but I missed one definition from you, to give a full picture, that's the definition of closed and open loop. What does that mean? How does it interfere on the fuel trim? 🤔
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 8 ай бұрын
Subbed. This video is gold. Outstanding practical demonstration!!!
@JaymzMhart
@JaymzMhart 4 ай бұрын
@@Jedi_MasterenOpen loop is when the computer ignores feedback from sensors and uses last known data to run the engine until it warms up. When it’s ready, it will go into closed loop mode and utilize sensor data to make needed changes to stay running smoothly. From that point on until shut off, it remains in closed loop mode.
@cool_katt6652
@cool_katt6652 3 ай бұрын
Let me ask so You add the short fuel trims nd the long fuel trims so what the reason of adding both , The total sum??
@tomwinslow5086
@tomwinslow5086 21 күн бұрын
Im a diy guy. Thank you so much for making this so clear and simple. I will be watching more of your videos.
@Elgallazo29
@Elgallazo29 8 ай бұрын
You are the best of the best. I hope that most of the "auto mechanics"here in California start watching your videos so they can learn something about fuel trims
@Steven3873
@Steven3873 3 ай бұрын
The best "show and tell" tutorial on fuel trim I have seen, you definitely do not have to be an engineer to understand this. Thank you for taking out time to help on this.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and for watching!!
@denzelw9664
@denzelw9664 9 ай бұрын
I wonder which institution you teach at. Without formal training I have tried to understand fuel trim through others but not everyone is possessed with the gift of imparting knowledge. You possess that ability and does so with ease. You can only explain something if you truly understand how is operates and you do. This have brought me to a better place and a better understanding of how fuel trim works. Thanks man keep up the good work. 👏
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@konyoha
@konyoha 8 ай бұрын
I just found out that fuel pump pressure has a big influence on short trim and fuel trim correction. The lesson you gave really helped me understand this. Thank you
@ricardoviana5059
@ricardoviana5059 Жыл бұрын
a decade looking for avideo like this. just can't thank you enough.
@meblake7359
@meblake7359 7 ай бұрын
That was an awesome demonstration of fuel trims. Thank you.
@mikemorrow6736
@mikemorrow6736 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely well presented. This video answers a multitude of questions concerning fuel trims. Using generic data to view fuel trims is not included in any diagnostic scanner's instructions. I have been plagued with trying to read fuel trims on Nissans for some time now. Thank you!👍
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@rrmech11
@rrmech11 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the injector on time portion showing the computer adjusting. o2 sensor response is very critical too. Meaning a lazy o2 signal or o2 heater circuit. 👍👍
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I want to make a follow up video showing what can happen in different scenarios. It is harder to do. Like a lazy o2 the pcm may not be flagging a dtc, but it knows that somethings off and may start to correct. This is going to be fun to try and catch and share.. thanks for watching and commenting.
@Jpilgrim30
@Jpilgrim30 3 жыл бұрын
Generic OBD2 gets overlooked by a lot of guys especially once they get their hands on higher end scan tools and wind up getting themselves in trouble chasing substituted values. I use Generic OBD 2 a lot when chasing issues such as fuel trim.
@isaacdarkey871
@isaacdarkey871 11 күн бұрын
You just gained a follower for this awesome fuel trim tutorial,thanks for teaching me and many others 😀 👍
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ruimvp
@ruimvp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally i understood LTFT. Fuel trims are important also for unmetered air issues.
@jaredadams5194
@jaredadams5194 Жыл бұрын
This was definitely the best fuel trim video I have ever seen. I am having a problem with a P0401 code and fuel trims around -12 to -16. Very informative!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@jaredadams5194
@jaredadams5194 Жыл бұрын
@konstantintrehagyrevopoulo972 I put on a new EGR valve, DPFE sensor w/new hoses, new EGR tube, and EGR vacuum solenoid.
@jaredadams5194
@jaredadams5194 Жыл бұрын
@konstantintrehagyrevopoulo972 still doing it...plus, it has a code for Rich on Bank 2.
@jaredadams5194
@jaredadams5194 Жыл бұрын
@konstantintrehagyrevopoulo972 yeah, it's a V8. Passenger side bank. I put all new injectors and plugs in as well. Also has a new intake manifold and IAC valve.
@jaredadams5194
@jaredadams5194 Жыл бұрын
@konstantintrehagyrevopoulo972 they use coil packs, the coils are all new as well. I replaced then when I replaced the plugs
@dlouque
@dlouque 10 ай бұрын
Very good explanation for this old school mechanic starting out working on my own vehicles again. My son tried explaining it to me but you explained it better. Thanks
@videosenutube
@videosenutube Жыл бұрын
Finally, a video that open my mind on what I have considered a very hard subject to understand .
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
I am glad to be able to help.
@jacksonmusyoka1216
@jacksonmusyoka1216 2 жыл бұрын
Have been very much interested in understanding fuel trims and after watching this I can now say I've got the point I've been missing thanks. This is my first time in this channel and i like it.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, please subscribe if you have not! I have been working hard on good diagnostic content!
@B-ROCK843
@B-ROCK843 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make the video. This is really helped me gain a much better understanding on the subject.
@smedleybutler1969
@smedleybutler1969 11 ай бұрын
Wow best explanation for a beginning mechanic!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, please share with any one that may benefit
@Carrie-Mercado
@Carrie-Mercado Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! You have explained Fuel Trim, this is an Incredible Golden Nugget of Knowledge!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MarkSmith-js2pu
@MarkSmith-js2pu 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I’m not a pro, but I’ve made it a goal of mine to understand fuel trims. I’m a pilot, and your airplane trim analogy did the trick. I have a low level scan tool that I’m trying to understand for my car and at least now I can get the high level overview that previously escaped me. It’s a 11 yr old 3.6 GM with 160,000 miles that seems to run quite well, but as they say knowledge is power. I subbed.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 11 ай бұрын
I love Flying,( student, 172 and 152 mostly 12 years ago)..
@SkillSavvyDIY
@SkillSavvyDIY 4 ай бұрын
Best video out there on fuel trims! If someone can't understand this, then they are just not capable of understanding anything
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 2 жыл бұрын
It's important to understand that the short term adjustment is always added/subtracted to/from the long term, to get the correct 'instantaneous' fuel/air balance, as seen by the O2 sensor...
@careyautorepairs
@careyautorepairs Жыл бұрын
Definitely the best video on this topic on KZbin. Going to add this to my playlist. Thank you.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kicknsystm
@kicknsystm Жыл бұрын
I've taught many subjects not as a profession but as a friend or mentor. From math to my son or my lady friend's child, general mechanical skills to friends & family, even Martial Arts & Self Defense. I've always had a gift for teaching from different perspectives that the student could relate with & understand. You just did that for me! Thank you so much!
@gofast228
@gofast228 2 жыл бұрын
After watching many videos, YOUR video totally put short and long term fuel trim in perspective for me, Thx
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@g5153
@g5153 2 жыл бұрын
I already know about the theory. But the practical part is fantastic. Many thanks.
@صلاحالحراصي-غ1ض
@صلاحالحراصي-غ1ض 3 ай бұрын
This is the greatest explanation of fuel trims on KZbin. Just if you add oxygen sensor signal during fuel restriction, it will be great. Thank you sir ❤
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 ай бұрын
My van has air fuel ratio sensors, so it's a bit different than a traditional o2
@hinojosa552
@hinojosa552 Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation about fuel trims I ever seen , and well explained, thank you Teacher
@ivanstrickland7741
@ivanstrickland7741 Жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO IS A MUST WATCH WATCH 10 TIMES. MAYBE 11. AWESOME DUDE.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@craigiefconcert6493
@craigiefconcert6493 8 ай бұрын
Nice explanation! I easily understand that the computer expects a certain fuel pressure and has a map of the expected injector pulse width for the flow of air into the engine, and corrects based on what’s being actually measured.
@soilmanted
@soilmanted Жыл бұрын
Best video, best information, I've found so far regarding fuel trims. Nice and clear. I especially like how Mr HoAT set up a system to reduce fuel pressure to the injectors, showed us a gauge that was indicating the pressure and the changes in pressure, and showed us how the OBD trim values changed in response to the changes in fuel pressure - changed in order to keep the vehicle at "homeostasis" as they call it in biological feedback systems. I loved the info about the etymological origin of the word "trim" - starting with how the word is used, what it means, in the context of sailing vessels. Only thing I had some difficulty understanding was the fuel injector oscillograph pattern starting at 21:20. I think the problem here was that I was not able to see the labels for the vertical and horizontal axes. The labels were too small to see. I saw what looked like 2-digit numbers on the vertical axis that were too blurry to actually read, and in addition I saw just the numbers, I did not see any label saying what the numbers were a measurement of. Whatever was on the horizontal axis was even harder for me to see. Is it time, in milliseconds, on the horizontal scale? At what frequency was the oscilloscope re-drawing the screen? What was on the vertical scale, volts? Why was an increase in injector on-time associated with a flat, horizontal line at the _bottom_ of the vertical scale (a line which got longer as the fuel trim went more positive)?
@SS-U23
@SS-U23 Жыл бұрын
Dynamic and useful explanation Thank you
@protocon59
@protocon59 Жыл бұрын
😃wow, I just came across your stellar teaching on this topic of fuel trims! Bravo! Short & Long adding together and understanding how fuel pressure can impact the duty cycle of the injectors as well as all the trim. This is helping me take over the troubleshooting of a lean condition on a Cadillac engine with codes 171 and 174 (lean on banks one and two). I'm looking at fuel pressure tomorrow and your excellent teaching has put me on a path that I think i can solve it. Thank you sir. -jeff
@sjsnopek
@sjsnopek 5 ай бұрын
I loved the practical demonstration! Thank you.
@KLNYC
@KLNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, understand fuel trimming. thx
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help clear it up!
@High_Tech_Mountain
@High_Tech_Mountain 3 жыл бұрын
Great representation of fuel trims! Love the RC car and the live car example! As always great content!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I know we have lots more to cover, my goal was to share the simplest way that I could come up with on the basics. Any suggestions always welcome!.
@sanjaysheth425
@sanjaysheth425 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation, in addition this is basically PID controlled
@David-bp1tr
@David-bp1tr 5 ай бұрын
BEING IN THE TRANSPORTATION REPAIR FIELD FOR 50 YEARS NOW AM STARTING TO UNDERSTAND FUEL TRIM PLUS THE REASON WHY THE READING ARE POS-NEG.AII THIS I KNEW I HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING,I FEEL IT THE PERSON WHO TEACHING IF YOU CANNOT GET THAT TECH TO SEE ARE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU TRYING TO SAY. YOU ARE WASTING HIS TIME& YOUR, PLEASE KEEP-UP THE GREAT WORK, [ DADDYDAVE 707 ]
@joewaynemitchell6363
@joewaynemitchell6363 2 жыл бұрын
This kind sir was really informative I'm here in Jamaica and I have a 2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara that's running rich in bank 2 @ -22 . I'll be looking into that injectors tomorrow thank much
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 2 жыл бұрын
Great way of explaining this, the steering alignment analogy is very intuitive 👍
@anthonyheak3479
@anthonyheak3479 3 ай бұрын
Great explanation about ST and LT fuel trims
@FroggyFrosch
@FroggyFrosch 3 күн бұрын
Well it helped me a lot to understand I had some sues with a p0420 and a irregular engine running thanks to this I solved it had a bad upper o2 sensor
@lp6696
@lp6696 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video it was great! For people who study signal analysis the short term would be termed "high frequency noise" and long term would be DC offset
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 7 ай бұрын
NICE analogy!!
@rkeesee916
@rkeesee916 5 ай бұрын
Nice analogy with the r/c car. Thanks for posting👍
11 ай бұрын
The very best explanation with visuals to tie it together. Great job
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and for watching!
@jackrein293
@jackrein293 Жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations I've seen. Great work. Thank you.
@tootsrr1
@tootsrr1 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video I got a Foxwell NT809BT Scanner it's all setup just need more deeper understanding how to find faults Great video about fuel trim thanks
@Axeman428
@Axeman428 9 ай бұрын
Great job of explaining fuel trims. I now understand exactly what’s going on with my injection and no guessing. Thanks!
@mustaphahammadi208
@mustaphahammadi208 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your well explanation. Now I have a better understanding of fuel trim than before.
@laird340
@laird340 Жыл бұрын
That Rc car explanation was brilliant. I've never really understood short/long trim until now. Awesome explanation. Thank you for that simple but effective analogy.
@cliff499
@cliff499 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is terrific I’m showing my junior techs this!!!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it helps them out.. If there are interested in my basic electricity course have them sign up and take it , on the corr membership, its 10 bucks a month, just cancel before the renewal
@cliff499
@cliff499 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianMann216 I don’t know what they learn in “tech school”. But in the real world they don’t get it. They never even heard of Load testing a circuit 😱. I tell them all to follow and listen and learn from you!!
@bme7491
@bme7491 Жыл бұрын
Basic control theory. Many systems in the modern car are using a PID control loop to maintain some kind of stasis, e.g., fuel ratio, cruise speed....etc. Some of the most fun projects I ever worked on were based on this.
@atomicdmt8763
@atomicdmt8763 2 ай бұрын
excellent video. The CAR controls really helps. In my case, it seemed I had to keep clearing out codes/pending codes until the LTFT came into compliance - after a badly leaking exhaust. I seem to be on the good path now! Cheers.
@JaneSanders-n6b
@JaneSanders-n6b 5 ай бұрын
Great video! I learned a lot! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
@mnewln1800
@mnewln1800 8 ай бұрын
I run a shop and will share this with an up and coming mechanic. Thank you!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 8 ай бұрын
Your very welcome, please have the up and coming tech like and subscribe!
@francisdsa6790
@francisdsa6790 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your demonstration and information about the fuel trim. Thankful to you 🙏💐
@dangleybrush6103
@dangleybrush6103 Жыл бұрын
Never understood it one bit before this video. Thanks alot, that was very well explained and alot of useful effort went into it
@MouadAwad
@MouadAwad Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing overview for fuel trims, keep this up 🔥🔥
@brianritchie75
@brianritchie75 10 ай бұрын
I'm going to use my old RC car to teach this to my apprentice. Great demonstration here
@Justin_Webb
@Justin_Webb 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The most concise I've seen to date. I enjoyed watching.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I enjoy finding ways to share things differently.
@thechosenwon2207
@thechosenwon2207 Жыл бұрын
Very well put together. I finally get it , Ty
@nateshoemaker2729
@nateshoemaker2729 Ай бұрын
What an awesome video! Super easy to understand. Thanks!
@joeseda8102
@joeseda8102 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this very cool and simple explanation about fuel trims. Wish you had explained that to me 27 years ago! Have a wonderful New Year 2022 with family and friends. Same for all other commentators.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Comment. I plan to build upon that video lessons and go into showing cause and effect.. still not to much with the o2 or af sensors, because I rarely need to take it that far. Have a great 2022. Happy New year
@ralcng
@ralcng Жыл бұрын
he is the best in this section
@reiannaidoo
@reiannaidoo Жыл бұрын
This is just the best video on the internet explaining fuel trims. Thank you.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I think a part 2 is in order diving a bit deeper.
@abdelssami
@abdelssami Жыл бұрын
What an amazing explanation of ST LT 🎉🎉 thanks
@raymondmcwilliams2823
@raymondmcwilliams2823 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant well explaind 👍
@HasSan-jj4nl
@HasSan-jj4nl 3 жыл бұрын
A very excellent explanation and we have benefited from the basics and we are waiting for more information.. I have subscribed to the channel and activate the bell to receive more. Thank you very much😇
@KhalilAntoine-g2w
@KhalilAntoine-g2w 2 ай бұрын
Very informative, bro. It's greatly appreciated
@javiertorres9666
@javiertorres9666 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Video its So Easy Now i Got it 100% 👍🏼
@Lambros_Stefaneas
@Lambros_Stefaneas 3 жыл бұрын
Very very good video. simple and understandable. thanks.
@Steve.191
@Steve.191 3 жыл бұрын
Your very good teacher thank you 👍
@rubendawn7478
@rubendawn7478 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!!!
@munrys
@munrys Жыл бұрын
Great job explaining fuel trim. I can tell your a good instructor! You made easy to understand why and how fuel trim works. The real time lab was a great learning tool.
@notone4029
@notone4029 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Much! Explained WELL in layman’s terms.
@user-we5mi6zl2s
@user-we5mi6zl2s 5 ай бұрын
Excellent l really like the live demonstration.
@waqasazmat81
@waqasazmat81 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking your time out and teaching us. Great explanation! OBDII generic data is very user friendly then the manufacture specific when it comes to Fuel Trims.
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome! Please share with any one that could benefit form it! You will see in my future videos a $100 parts store scanner being used to show how the basics can be used to diagnose.
@raymondtorres7867
@raymondtorres7867 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent teaching love it and tank you
@davidhilling6191
@davidhilling6191 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation.
@georgebonney90
@georgebonney90 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you sir 👍
@bFORCe2003
@bFORCe2003 2 жыл бұрын
Have a 2000 Honda Civic P0132 code. STFT: went all the way to -50% LTFT: Hovered around -4% O2 Sensor B1S1 - fluctuating between 0.1V to 0.7V O2 Sensor B1S2 - Stayed at 1.2V
@dumbeezy5480
@dumbeezy5480 2 жыл бұрын
Test your O2s
@wentzelnel7723
@wentzelnel7723 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Was a brilliant way of explaining it.
@Justme001..
@Justme001.. 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this Excellent explanation!!!
@Bobo-t5u
@Bobo-t5u 5 ай бұрын
This video was excellent!
@carldymond110
@carldymond110 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the lesson.
@rosselnator
@rosselnator 8 ай бұрын
Great explanation!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@waverider5751
@waverider5751 3 ай бұрын
I put four new Denso fuel injectors in my Civic with the R18a, and although it runs well, the fuel trims went from negative 5-8%, to positive 4-6%. Does this tell me my new injectors are undersized?
@lesedimotsemme
@lesedimotsemme Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done, thank you sir.
@kanaslens4038
@kanaslens4038 9 ай бұрын
Great Info! On point. Nice and easy to follow
@ThunderbirdRocket
@ThunderbirdRocket Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tutorial ! Thanks
@GrievenceCapitolist
@GrievenceCapitolist Жыл бұрын
Nice . Improved my understanding of fuel trim by 1000 %
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
I would like to dona part 2 mote indepth sometime
@GrievenceCapitolist
@GrievenceCapitolist Жыл бұрын
@@BrianMann216 I'll watch it .
@brenyz5013
@brenyz5013 6 ай бұрын
Very well done vid !!!
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@stephendawson2676
@stephendawson2676 10 ай бұрын
Best that I have ever seen
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 10 ай бұрын
of course there is more to it, I think if techs can understand this part every thing else will be easier..
@tbone2859
@tbone2859 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic explanation! Thank you
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! My goal is to make it as simpler as possible, of course this is just the basics, I want to have a part 2 soon.
@Kntryhart
@Kntryhart 2 ай бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for posting!!
@kylevarble2325
@kylevarble2325 10 ай бұрын
That was awesome and very informative
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, please consider subscribing if you are not already!
@BackeB
@BackeB Жыл бұрын
Very well explained!
@jgeorges3061
@jgeorges3061 3 жыл бұрын
Brian, AWESOME information sharing thanks.
@BB010864
@BB010864 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the simple explanation ! Great Video !
@BrianMann216
@BrianMann216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I should make a part 2 going a bit deeper into fuel control and correction, what do you think?
@BB010864
@BB010864 Жыл бұрын
@@BrianMann216 I would like to really see how to read 02 sensors and understand how they function and diagnose :)
@duhday007
@duhday007 Жыл бұрын
excellent job
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