Understanding the Present Moment #4 (Michel Foucault)

[@CenterPorchNP]

Because of this series, I have enrolled into the Hillsdale College philosophy class. I haven't taken philosophy since 2015 (my first year of college at 45). Thank you for the enlightenment on these men.

[@jmartinousIII]

You might as well watch a playlist of PragerU videos if you're taking "courses" from Hillsdale. It's basically just a Republican mouthpiece college.

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

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[@MFTU268]

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[@ronnestman4696]

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[@condelevante4]

I really appreciated this and the positive approach to seeing the good points of what many are inevitably going to see as the enemy. But there are truths in these philosophers works even if their conclusion are wrong and ultimately damaging. The church will overcome and be stronger for it.

[@viviennedunbar3374]

Every Catholic high school should have philosophy lessons which cover all these ideas and critique them BEFORE students go to college, so they aren’t naive and also understand how the academy (in the anglophone West at least) is obsessed with them.

[@Encyclicals]

Test everything, take what is good. Love it!

[@manbearpig7521]

@@viviennedunbar3374 yes

[@lepanto3607]

@@viviennedunbar3374 100% agree. Philosophy should be mandatory all 4 years and these topics should be discussed thoroughly in every Catholic high school. I would have avoided so much nonsense after high school if I was exposed to Catholics like Bishop Barron breaking down these atheists philosophers.

[@shelleyhender8537]

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[@outofoblivionproductions4015]

I am a Fanboy of 'Thomas Aquinas: Spiritual Master.' 'Robert Barron' opened my eyes to St Thomas Aquinas. I didn't even know Mr Barron was Catholic 🙂back in 2003. 😅 I think it should/is/ or will be a popular classic Catholic theology book.

[@carolinebaker6318]

I am so grateful for this series of discussions. Foucault seems to be the most influential of the thinkers who lead to despair.

[@MH-zg5yw]

Influential? I doubt it. Foucault was a degenerate. He advocated for pedophilia. "Foucault scholars and editors prefer to pass over his advocacy of pederasty in silence". Foucault is gross

[@juanperez2006]

Looking forward to this one. I've listened to the ones for Marx, Nietzsche, and Sartre and now this is the conclusion of the series. Very informative!

[@roseimperial7776]

Dear Bishop!Barron this series, truly gave me more insights on how to react to the assault of so much " name calling, and crude remarks" in social media. THIS OPENED MY MIND TO BEING A CHRISTIAN IN THE PRSENT MOMENT, BY UNDERSTANDING THE ARCHEOLOGY OF IDEAS".

[@damo780]

Fabulous linkage of Foucault Nietzsche, Marx & Freud. Thankyou for clearing that up Bishop

[@rocky4976]

Thanks again for your work and You tube clips. Not Catholic yet but your work is drawing many to or back to the universal church.

[@selamethiopia1157]

Thank you Bishop Barron! God bless you!

[@saraanic9436]

I just wish this conversations were longer. Half an hour is still too little for these four philosophers. Michael asked an excellent question. Maybe Bp. Barron could do several videos about the Trinity.

[@frans3950]

I agree

[@Commonchaffinch2]

@Nikos Antikythera on the contrary. The Catholic Church does not rely on the propaganda like the world machine in order to be effectively promulgated. The faith and the true church exist in spite of corruption not because of its lack of existence (after all lack of evil would be fiction in this world). The truth exists despite lies , not because of the any lying, human institution. The truth exists because God willed it. And we have tainted it.

[@Commonchaffinch2]

@Nikos Antikythera I do agree with you on the opinion of Foucault in terms of his non-Catholic lifestyle and subsequent IDEALS & FASHION 👿

[@Commonchaffinch2]

@Nikos Antikythera God knows I won’t antiquate Foucault and call what he did stylish 🥴 as Bishop Barren has by this video. I suppose it’s the LA lgbtq community rubbing off on him. Or trying to attract those from within his cult, to the Catholic faith, in his regard , I hope. Secretly all Catholics still wonder if bishop barren believes in the existence of Hell, but like I said before he does not dictate the truth. God does.

[@fredh2024]

Thanks WOF for doing this 4 part series!

[@anneturner2759]

You two gentlemen bring me joy, a good feeling, joy. Thank you both.

[@kallelundahl5784]

Great, Bishop Barron, that you mention that Foucault went to Uppsala (in 1955-1958)! His most formative years.

[@ioal111]

I’d like to hear Bishop Barron discuss Heidegger.

[@tessysingh1327]

Oh I loved the Mortimer Adler joke so much! I played it back and cracked up again and again.

[@billrevellese5635]

very insightful - love the in depth dive into the philosophy and Bishop Barron is masterful in apologetics. Wonderful episode

[@greyforge27]

The French philosophers have really done a number on us

[@SomboonCM]

"French..."

[@lorenzogonzales4670]

Terrifyingly, there are well documented references from Colleagues of Foucault that have him spending time in Tunisia engaging in child sexual abuse. Douglass Murray outlines the joys of the lefts intellectual heroes in “The War on the West”.

[@jl2dobrzyn]

As they typically do. Self-absorbed, yet insecure. Weak and cowardly, yet more than willing to trash their perceived enemies.

[@thephoneranger1]

Tell me more.

[@DigitalLogos]

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[@mridulkodiyan8575]

May God help us overcome this time.

[@ChannelSettingsTvcode]

God did. The result was foucault.

[@Coco2345ful]

I can't for the liffe of me,a grandmother, understand why I find this so fascinating....

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Thanks for the serious academic take on these topics

[@the117man]

The cult of Foucault and his perverse ideology was highly celebrated and prevalent in the public university I attended (2013-2018). Foucault's legitimazation or academization of these ideas is troubling. I was called out a mysogynist and elitist for "daring" to quote Plato or Voltaire during our in-class debates. Remindeds me today of the verse: " Whosoever shall misled my children..."

[@User-t1m1x]

Mid 1980s for me. Then his ideology was still fringe, now his concepts are mainstream. When kindys are woke we have a problem. Didn't take long only a few decades. It's an amoral ideology

[@NGAOPC]

In more recent news in Europe has been serious consideration of evidence he predated on children in Tunisia (his primary biographer, James Miller, who was also a friend of his, didn’t doubt the evidence, in fact argued that it didn’t matter for his ‘contributions’ in “why we shouldn’t cancel Foucault”). This is last years news really, and not news to the Church; German bishops were called to task for a position paper on the abuse scandals and preventing further abuse that relied on his research. I’m very surprised this wasn’t discussed in this video. CNA featured an article on this case “Abuse Commission of Church in Germany Defends Citing Michel Foucault”. In addition, Foucault among many other French intellectuals of his day (Sartre, Deridda, Deleuze, Lyotard, Barthes, Beauvoir, Guattari, etc), all signed off on a petition opposed to age of consent laws. These are not tangential points about the man, as much as this video may be about his ideas. He LIVED OUT his “ideas” as he presented them, as the “play” of power and sxuality, literally to his dying days with AIDS.

[@NGAOPC]

It’s been recently suggested in academic literature that Foucault and his theories are central to what became “discourses” on identity politics, social justice issues, critical race theory (obviously queer theory), etc. central to his life was a fixation on sex and death, deviance of all kinds from societal norms as enlightenment and political liberation, revolutionary politics (and ironic support of the Islamic Revolution in Iran - probably because of it being ‘exotic’ and revolutionary), submission to experiences of “playing” with power relationships, his personal life of sadomasochism, all of it was integrated. Even the accusations of atrocities against children *in graveyards* strikes me as par for the dis/course. His worldview entailed PRAXIS and not mere “life of the mind” contemplation - he explored it to his death, it was THAT important to him. He was arguably consistent if nothing else, in being a proactive, evangelical decadent, and I’m still surprised that this is not as consistently acknowledged more, or at least acknowledged, especially here.

[@mlrsguy250]

Thanks Bishop Baron for helping us emerge “from our intellectual ghettos”😏

[@MH-zg5yw]

The bishop conveniently left out Foucault's advocacy for pedophilia. Foucault wanted to normalize S&M and pederasty. Very odd that the bishop speaks of him in glowing terms

[@mlrsguy250]

@@MH-zg5yw I imagine Bishop Barron is giving credit for nuggets of truth, wisdom and influence. Brilliant men with impeccable virtues would be preferred, but alas, are very rare.

[@MH-zg5yw]

@@mlrsguy250 Foucault was not a brilliant man. Everything he peddled was geared toward furthering his own personal agenda. His work was an attempt at conditioning his readers and followers to accept the unacceptable. Everything Foucault wrote was aimed at normalizing pederasty, S&M (which he was heavily into) and homosexuality. Foucault offered no nuggets of wisdom or truth. Foucault was anti God and anti religion. But, it should come as no surprise that a Catholic bishop is lauding Foucault's work. The Church has allowed the sexual abuse of children for over 40 years. Foucault would be proud

[@mlrsguy250]

@@MH-zg5yw oh boy, doesn’t take much “archeological digging” to see the real target of your poison pen is not Foucault or his work but Bishop Barron and the Catholic church. I anguish over the many sins of some members and clergy of the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church. I rejoice in communion with the multitude of saints and martyrs over the past 2,000 years. Embrace the wheat, pray for God’s mercy on the tares.🙏

[@MH-zg5yw]

@@mlrsguy250 some members and clergy? The child abuse was widespread and rampant. It was covered up at the highest levels of the church. I was born and raised Catholic. I left the Catholic church because it had been dirty for a long time. The church spiraled into filth, corruption and blatant dishonesty. The Roman Catholic church offers nothing but emptiness. Anyone who supports the Catholic church is complicit in the child abuse it perpetrated.

[@joane24]

Very interesting talk, thank you Bp. Barron. So the way I understand bit, I think the key to understand Foucault's arguments from the Catholic/Christian perspective and how these approaches differen, is to note the relativism of Foucault and negation of a notion of human nature and of any stable, objective ideas. Which is generally the trope of other postmodern thinkers as well, of course. So for Foucault the ideas that he traces by their genealogies, are no more than social and cultural practices. These practices are, the way I would put it, signifiers, but the signified is empty, it doesn't exist apart from how people construct it by means of discourse and practices. So that's also the regime of truth, the power over discourses, which at the same time is ever changing, is negotiable, so - and here goes the power - depends on who's in power to decide the discourse, who's the power to constitue social institutions, etc. So,in the end, there's no ideals, no values, no morals, that would be objective, it's all relative. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I did quite some reading of Foucault at the university, but I'm not all that very deeply versed.)

[@praxidescenteno3233]

I told when someone lovely people bring me LOVE others gave me work to back their Hearts at the fluential God's LOVE

[@StevenJBosch]

My reading on subjects like this has been sporadic at best and discussions are often short and to the point. But when these topics come up my memory turns to what I learned from Martin Luther King Jr. and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Both of these men drew a lot from Western Canon and combined with what they saw around them moved to oppose evil even at the cost of their lives.

[@nicksibly526]

The irony is that people who see everything through the lens of power are the most terrifying when they do get into positions of power.

[@outofoblivionproductions4015]

Putin.

[@aloys7716]

Because it's a projection. It's not a condemnation but a justification.

[@ChannelSettingsTvcode]

Do you have any evidence of a person who understands foucault's theory of power who has gained some and used it for bad? I think you should actually engage with the texts.

[@ChannelSettingsTvcode]

@@aloys7716 it is absolutely a condemnation.

[@aloys7716]

@@ChannelSettingsTvcode It is absolutely a justification. For example, we have known for a long time that Foucault regularly indulged in sadomasochistic orgies with his students. Power was a powerful aphrodisiac for him. Last year, we even learned, thanks to his best friend, that he was raping little boys in the cemeteries of Tunisia (he wanted apparently to rape them there at all costs). Moreover, all French politicians who claim to be "progressive", Macron included, are fervent disciples of Foucault and scrupulously apply his concept of "deconstruction". They strive to "deconstruct" the native French people and their civilization so that nothing can oppose their megalomaniacal whims.

[@taywil64A]

It would be great if Bishop Barron wrote a book on the original lecture given a few years ago and included his scholarly insights into the major figures of modernist and woke figures that are shaping modern civilization. There is a demand for such thoughtful studies. The talks have been very educational and informative in helping us understand trends influencing so much of Western civilisation.

[@johnkussmann4268]

Excellent discussion on roots of ideas influencing society today!

[@soniaaltuzar6191]

Son muy inteligentes los dos y el obispo aclara muchísimo, nos encanta escucharlo

[@Coco2345ful]

Thank you and god Bless!

[@danieltracy7136]

I studied chemistry and engineering, and "missed" learning about Foucault during my academic years. I don't get his attraction by US academic types.

[@garyvanhagen3001]

Very well done and informative 🤗😇🙏

[@baron_of_dirt]

Could you make a video on how to fight against the influences of these four?

[@bens4446]

The title of such a video would have to be "Proving Foucault's point".

[@DavidRodriguez-cm2qg]

For now, pray, fast, give alms. Read to know God, worship to love God, love neighbor to serve God.

[@michaelmicek]

There's another comment about applying Foucault's method to himself. How do you fight atheism? Like David says, prayer, penance, alms. I'd add if you really want to get involved, poverty, chastity, and obedience.

[@lukebrasting5108]

It's easy to combat them, just use the Moral Argument. Underpinning all of their philosophies is the idea that oppression is objectively wrong. But if God doesn't exist, then there can be no objective moral law to serve as a reference point for human conduct and to which we are all beholden. Without a transcendent moral lawgiver, all that's left is human opinion and what makes one individual's view of what is morally right or wrong more valid than another's, let alone gives them a right to impose their view and demand that they obey? Nothing. So if God doesn't exist, then rape, murder, racism, sexism, colonialism, homophobia, predatory capitalism etc - all of the lefts pet hates - aren't wrong at all. They're just neutral things with no inherent negative value of 'wrongness" attached to them. You would just have to accept them without placing any moral judgment or value on them, just like you would a lion killing a hyena or an pitbull mauling a neighbors cat to death. Humans would be on the same level as animals. That also means that there could be no talk of justice or injustice because nothing is inherently right or wrong, it would just be an arbitrary social construct.

[@luzclara3855]

@@lukebrasting5108 Excellent comment. Thank you!

[@nicholasbishop5892]

Objectivity is properly ordered subjectivity-Bernard Lonergan-thank you, Bishop Barron.

[@dynamic9016]

Really appreciate this video.

[@petergreen8477]

Surely one must employ Foucault’s own method on those who draw particular inspiration from him? What is the underlying power play of “wokism”? What do we find if we engage in an archeological excavation of the position they espouse?

[@michaelmicek]

Right. Well, atheism.

[@danboshane6956]

I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I was obsessed with Foucault when I was a secular young man. For him and other Postmodernists, their deconstruction is only ever directed towards conservative foundations. That's the trick with wokeism. It's aims do not come from an established system of values, it comes from pride and blame, and these are shifting constantly. Therefore they are inherently immune to deconstruction in the style of Foucault.

[@zenuno6936]

Given that he was a sodomite and died due to it, and also said children can consent to sex. Could justifying these behaviours be a motivator for his theories.... yes.

[@marchess286]

great series. thank you

[@henofed]

I so struggled with Foucault at uni, had to read aloud and still could not understand. No surprise that postmodernism comes from him, I cannot see any good in this philosophy.

[@timrichardson4018]

I've had that same question about reconciling God as Being (and not an instance of being) with the persons of the Trinity. I appreciate Bishop Barron's answer and find it satisfying. I think this is where an Orthodox criticism of western Catholicism comes into play. They feel less of a need to neatly and precisely define and describe things. They are more comfortable with mystery and simply accepting it as such. That's not to say they don't define doctrine with a certain level of precision. They do indeed. It's a difference in degree rather than kind, in my opinion. As westerners, we are all inheritors of an intellectual tradition that has induced in us a need for precise explanation. I feel that need just as strongly as anyone, and so appreciate these sorts of explanations. However, I think we should all remember that a description of a thing is not the thing itself. Language, no matter how precise or accurate, can not finally capture the full truth and nuance of the thing it describes. There will always be some degree of gap between the two. And this is a beautiful thing about Christianity, that it doesn't rely finally on having a firm intellectual grasp on God, rather it insists that one must experience God.

[@joelcruz811]

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[@EtherealMaryJane]

I'd love to hear you talk about Alexandre Dumas.

[@johnmartin4650]

Excellent….thank you.

[@sarahrei4530]

Great video, I really liked how Bishop Barron also emphasized the good things about Foucault’s philosophy. However I would also appreciate if Bishop Barron explained more deeply how to respond to the things Foucault gets wrong, especially since our culture is so influenced by him, I think it’s missing from this video a bit.

[@frans3950]

Again excellent video!

[@haraldwolte3745]

James Burnham's book "The Machiavellians" lists thinkers such as Machiavelli, Mosca, Pareto. One of the similarities between those thinkers according to Burnham, is that they see through superficial reasoning. They ignore the "formal" argument made by an author and instead see through to the "real" argument. Does this make them "masters of suspicion " along with Freud, Marx and Foucault?

[@maxmoody1773]

Barron does a really good job of explaining these figures and the true things they said, but I wish he had gone a little more into why they can be dangerous. It feels a bit glossed over. Still, great series.

[@jhfoever]

They can be dangerous if somebody abuses their points in a very degenerative way

[@thebacons5943]

Almost the entire video is a critique?

[@maxmoody1773]

@@thebacons5943 it's an explanation and understanding, not a critique

[@thebacons5943]

@@maxmoody1773 no, it’s not. The critique may not be comprehensive, but he’s breaking these thinkers down from a Catholic perspective. And far over half of this video is spent on what, in his view Foucault got wrong

[@Trifixion22]

​@@jhfoever In the case of the ones that Bishop Barron has covered (especially Foucault) I'm not entirely sure there is a way other than a degenerate one in which to use their ideas. With Foucault especially, it seems to be their intention.

[@processrauwill7922]

Does Foucault save himself from deconstructing himself? Like is he critical of his own deconstruction or does he view himself as sort of an god-like figure siting outside of it. The one thing that struck me in this talk is that, I can see how deconstruction can almost be turned against itself. The suspicion of suspicion.

[@tranvictor8860]

You know that most of the critics always criticize others except themselves 😞

[@processrauwill7922]

@@tranvictor8860 well that’s Christ move almost to turn judgment upon himself.

[@praxidescenteno3233]

I cried as God cries with his Creation

[@DerekJFiedler]

Great series. Thank you for digging into each of these four influencers. Now I can see more clearly how formational they were to modern thinking.

[@ricerikson4708]

I watched Mr Foucault on TV once in the 70's, it seemed to me that he was just making it up for himself, and held disdain in his heart for others

[@User-t1m1x]

Same with Marx

[@helena_augusta]

Michel Foucault + Eagle Eye movie + Snowden = we are not crazy, they are watching us and following us everywhere.

[@DavidRodriguez-cm2qg]

Yeck, Foucault, the ex-Catholic, atheist, and deconstructionist. Ready to see this video.

[@EcstaticTemporality]

Derrida is the famed deconstructionist. Most categorize F as poststructuralist.

[@frenlyfire]

he was also a pedophile rapist

[@Trifixion22]

@@EcstaticTemporality what's the difference between a structuralist, deconstructuralist, and a postconstructionalist?

[@dawnlapka3782]

I would appreciate it if you two discussed the great American Poetry of Chief Black Elk. Thanks.

[@evanriddle1614]

I'm so glad you got out of California.

[@evanriddle1614]

I mean, that place... shake the sand from your sandals.

[@outofoblivionproductions4015]

25:35 "The condition for the possibility of true objectivity is a properly constituted subjectivity."- Bernard Lonergan

[@inigomontoyo1555]

Great series! Really enjoyed it. I would love for you to comment on Paulo Freire's influence on American public education from a theological standpoint sometime!

[@richardfranklin2454]

I Excellent as usual. I need help on understanding what Bishop Barron said at the 26:30 mark. The caption shows "anymore you know so wandering and said we... " But this doesn't make any sense so what was actually said. I was hoping it was a persons name. Please help.

[@richardfranklin2454]

Thanks to WOF's Rob Abney the answer to my call for help - Bernard Lonergan. Thanks a hundred fold to Mr. Rob Abney.

[@praxidescenteno3233]

I never tired of that for me no have sense be different that hope Heaven to all

[@wreloise1]

Immaculate Mother Mary…Bishop’s adjustment to the weather in Minnesota 🙏🏾

[@SRamosX]

Can you publish the second part of your dissertation, on Paul Tillich? We already have plenty of Aquinas.

[@luisdanielpicopaez5518]

I love Foucault and I'm catholic. I have a master's degree in philosophy and my thesis was on Foucault. And I think the "woke" movement just didn't read him right. 1) When there's power there's resistence. Foucault never said "power is bad, and resistence y good" or 'we should aim for a society without power". He was just describing the ways power is structured, and he did not believed that is structured by a "who", there is not a "group of people in power", but the case is that power is all over us, and all we can do is understand the way power forms us, so we can imagine new ways. As Nietzsche, Foucault thinks that there's no way out of power. Even resistance embodies new power forces. Son in the end is just diferent power struggling. 2) At the end of his days he was reading the ways we can change ourselves. And found a much longer history. Spirituality is the way we can change ourselves. And the people who really changed society was people who were deeply involved in spiritual practices. But the changes were product of a long term. 3) In his reading of the classics he forgot the key relationship between their philosophy and their cosmology. So the relation they had with the transcendent forms the way they lived. In that way, Foucault reduces the value of transcendent truth in the way we shape ourselves. That is the essence of the contradiccion Foucault has. He has to eliminate the role of objective value so he can understand power relations, but in order to change power relations he goes to the people who believed in objective value. At the end, to change yourselves you gotta have objective value beliefs.

[@gethimrock]

Wow this was quite a comment and I really enjoyed it (though I’m months late). As a Catholic who struggles to fight moral relativism myself this was an interesting take. Are you basically saying that once you get to moral relativism and the only thing that matters is power that the powerful ones value absolute truth and since they win the power struggle absolute truth must exist by definition? Sorry I took two philosophy classes at Notre Dame and that’s it so excuse my ignorance

[@axkirby]

I wish Paris had photos and images of René Girard, instead of Michel Foucault

[@francescos7361]

Thanks.

[@anneturner2759]

Random question, what was the name of the book for children you talked about ( B.B.) ? It looked wonderful. It was about the contribution that Christian’s have made in the sciences? Was it The Believers? Thanks, love you both.

[@CharlieMarno100]

Interesting!

[@davekushner5340]

I literally paused it, bought the anthology, came back just to hear the promotion with both books... oh well.

[@Luke-db9fc]

Hurray for French philosophy!

[@nafeesmuktadir3199]

I have heard fron pfoff. John Gray that knowledge can enslave as much as it can enlighten.He said it was in aquinas.Would you be kind to tell me more about it???

[@parishvicar7612]

Speaking of highly abstract, misunderstood philosphers and theologians, might we add Rudolf Bultmann, given that he is probably cited more often than any other theologian, particularly in the area of NT scripture.

[@die_schlechtere_Milch]

i cannot take that Frenchman serious, but I learned some things about the history of confession and its different styles when I read him. Nonetheless, philosophy is about arguing for and justifying one's opinions and not about having opinions, no matter how "interesting"/excentric.

[@slavicgypsy5535]

Just hearing his name makes my skin crawl.

[@mikemccarthy6719]

Hey Bishop Barron when you mention that something would need a greater explanation to really flesh out the question or topic can you drop a few good books and/or parts of books that would help to flesh it out, please?

[@jackjonesdrums42]

Wow, brilliant interview….

[@alexanderangelo7284]

I wish he would cover Ludwig Feuerbach.

[@Trifixion22]

Yes absolutely! Especially since he was so influential on Marx and Nietzsche.

[@outofoblivionproductions4015]

@@Trifixion22 and Freud.

[@EcstaticTemporality]

Who is "Foucalt's"? You have a spelling error on your banner, see 22:21 minute mark.

[@motownmoneygang]

Since watching Inception, I tend to view the holy trinity as this: THE FATHER is God, the pure being, and also the ultimate dreamer. His dream is our reality. He dreams lucid, meaning he is fully aware that he's dreaming and actively designing/creating his dream. THE SON is the personification of the father in the dream. He is created human like us, yet in him resides the father, so that he can walk among his creation. THE HOLY SPIRT is God's loving awareness present everywhere at all times in the dream, except for within us and our desires, where our own spirit resides and exercises free will. As we receive god's grace, pray and live righteously, we can choose to open the door for the holy spirit to come bring clarity, guidance and love. As we dream, we are a person laying in bed, a person in the dream, and the dream itself is also fully us, since it resides in our minds. That's three beings in one, just like God. I of course don't know if it is true, but I think this is a good analogy for the holy trinity, as we are allegedly made in God's image. I hope we are, and most of all I hope that God really loves us. I sometimes kill ants out of boredom and it frightens me that an ultimate being may treat us the same way. Lets pray for world peace.☀

[@kevnev342]

this series ultimate shows the futility of Godless thinkers, although they may show us truths about humanity fallen system and state, they often have poor and damaging conclusions and solutions.

[@tdranger6888]

One individual human person has three distinct aspects: a front, a profile, and the articulation of the parts, all distinct, none complete. They are inter-related & complementary, yet each describes the very same person in a different way, and together the complete person (ok, only to some degree, it's not a perfect explanation).

[@francescos7361]

I love Foucault , thanks . I love him he was great.

[@johnmartin4650]

The stage becomes set for new dogma…….what’s good is bad….what’s bad is good….we’re in a real pickle

[@Hankyjane]

A society with to many laws is a society of people that are not protecting themselves or thinking for themselves. A society dumbed down in the position of "a pet" rather then free and strong individuals of conscience thoughtful living.

[@wintersmill4853]

Each philosopher has a lense with which to view and interpret the world. The trick is to take these different lenses and use all of them as tools for thinking about things. Philosophy is a tool, just don’t get dogmatic about your favorite lense.

[@User-t1m1x]

Except some lenses are deceptively evil in their consequences. They are not neutral.The only lens for me is a Christocentric one.

[@gariochsionnach2608]

Trinity: 3 phases of one Being? Long short analogy: water 1 substance, but can be ice, liquid & gas ...

[@megaselfia1093]

This view is called Sabellianism or Modalism, which is considered heresy by ecumenical council

[@oo3380]

Michel Foucault got this ideas about prison system from Alexis de Tocqueville's book on penitentiary system in America.

[@davidiancrux]

I missed the BOOK SALE AAAAAA

[@josephsimoncurran9994]

Thank you, this was very interesting. It does seem we need more general discussion about Foucault's thought and methods, hopefully we will see more of this. (Though I do think Marx the Shakespeare lover might be disappointed as it being suggested that he was opposed to great books 🙂). I wonder can we see any Foucault influences on thought on the 'right' - thinking about ideas about the deep state or hostility to public health measures? or would they be a result of other influences? Elsewhere someone suggested a video on the influence of Ayn Rand would be graet, I second that. Thanks

[@felicityh.1947]

Foucault and Marx suspicious mode of discourse definitely crosses the full political and religious spectrums.

[@praxidescenteno3233]

I practiced that all life cause my own Soul get off when i didn't

[@laljohnkhuptong2110]

Ki ngaklah gawp ei PuBarron

[@dison513]

Do worn holes always lead to times of jesus?

[@jays1198]

is faith just one more power play concocted by our pride? or the most holy gracious hope sublimely high and wide?

[@markballantyne393]

Discrediting people has almost replaced burning at the stake.

[@hermogene706]

Paradoxically, MF's denunciation of power games (domination, intimidation, obfuscation, self-righteousness...), whether in society or between individuals is perfectly illustrated by his own ways : mostly, his publishing weighty treatises, illegible except for the academic virtuosi partaking and basking in his cryptic modes of expression. All that -essentially- to remind us, as Bishop Barron aptly summarizes: "don't be short sighted, there were and are other points of view... ".

[@lindag1372]

Maybe Bishop Barron could read and comment on the BOOK OF HEAVEN and living in the Divine Will.

[@chunumummy4161]

Power " Father" son Knowing power of Father" Holly sprit " practically convertion by a son on earth even it is licke impossible " and here see = his Blessing"

[@JimBillyRayBob]

This begs the question: What is power?