Understanding the Sequencing of the Downswing

[@dede007]

Definitely the best video I've seen on the downswing. The sterna clavicular joint moving first towards the target is key. The drill with the golf bag works perfectly. Thank you so much Michael for improving my golf swing.

[@measuredgolf]

Glad it is helping, all the best.

[@harryleake5287]

Undoubtedly (for me) the best right arm transition concept video I’ve run into … having the right arm movement sensation beginning at the right sternum arranges the right side movement in perfect sequence. Thank you.

[@measuredgolf]

Glad it helped, all the best!

[@johnschwartz1536]

I just came across the video on You Tube and I was intrigued by your Sequencing title! I liked the content of this video and I have been working with a swing that you are describing utilizing the sternum and right shoulder in the transition! I have found that rotation is the key to completing this sequence! I have an in to out swing, but on occasion, while my right shoulder is coming down and I don't complete my rotation, I may get a fat or thin shot. I like your content and have become a subscriber to you channel!

[@measuredgolf]

Thanks and all the best.

[@steveperry1344]

wow, so this is guite a good thought and move. i tried it out in my backyard practice area and it helped straighten out my pull draw, i was hitting more of a straight draw, i'm excited. thnx.

[@measuredgolf]

Glad it helped, all the best.

[@steveperry1344]

this was very good, i always enjoy a good anatomical discussion of the golf swing action. i experiment with different left or right side feelings to move the swing and i'm gonna try this one, thnx. i'm a long time 74 year old player and a 13 hdcp, always working on it.

[@measuredgolf]

Easiest way to stay young is stay learning. All the best.

[@77bovi]

Good stuff, learnt something. Ty for the demonstration at the end with the club and bag, looks totally different to when you were using the right arm only with no club.

[@measuredgolf]

Glad it was helpful! All the best.

[@williammcintyre9380]

Thank you very much for this video. Been looking for someone to go thru the sequence of the downswing and you just did it expertly. Please consider doing a video explaining how to use our tools (our clubs).

[@measuredgolf]

We have some videos that talk about selecting clubs that have been uploaded in the past. All the best.

[@edmainman5353]

Have searched for years to find the best way to start the downswing. Finally I think I have found it. Thank you.

[@measuredgolf]

@@edmainman5353 glad it helped.

[@diminishedreturn]

Again, thanks for all the insight in previous comments. Here is a more general question: I've always found that 'distance' is a consequence of doing things right. It's hard to get the correct launch and distance with a low quality strike. But what if my distance is already 'correct', but I just don't realise it because I see other people hitting it farther? At what point (distance) should I feel: I'm basically using proper technique-the rest is just fitness and genes? Driver and 7-iron, let's say. Male between 35-55. I know it's individual, but there has to be a spectrum where one says: yup, those were quality shots.

[@measuredgolf]

The comment section is for comments about the video. Any questions that are personal should be sent to me via the Skillest app where I exchange answers for money which is my profession. Big difference between knowledge and tips. All the best.

[@siddharth7817]

Great anatomical explanation of correct down swing.Thanks

[@measuredgolf]

@@siddharth7817 all the best.

[@larrythigpen3373]

"When you are in traffic, and you use your middle finger to tell someone they're number 1." Hilarious. 😂

[@measuredgolf]

Enjoy the little things, lol. All the best.

[@jh6845]

Great insight! I hadn't heard this before. Do you think the same idea applies to the take-away?

[@measuredgolf]

The backswing is does not work in the same order. The body moves the club therefore the pressure has to lead both the back swing and downswing. We have several videos we have posted addressing the backswing which you may enjoy as well. All the best.

[@Mr.Helper.]

Ive been experimenting with using my left lat stretched to start the transition. For some reason it makes me feel like i can get in the slot.

[@measuredgolf]

Left Lat stretched in the backswing creates more depth for the hands away from the ball making finding the slot much easier. All the best.

[@diminishedreturn]

👋🏻 @measuredgolf Your video popped into my stream, and it's the first one I've seen from you. I then watched the video lesson with "fast Eddie," and you were adamant about really keeping that external rotation and driving the trail elbow in front of the body for as long as possible (?). It's a concept I've visited before (as a devoted swing tinkerer), trail elbow in but I don't focus as much on it now. But listening to you, I feel I might reinforce it again. I would really be interested in your opinion of the wrists role during release. Do you feel there is a muscle-driven "throw" from the wrists, or are they simply loose and limp, supporting the club, until the physical swing-forces let the momentum of the lagging clubhead overtake? What is the configuration of the wrists that allows for maximum speed, while still maintaining directional control? Soft wrists make a lot of sense to me as a speed producer, since they allow the clubhead to move freely and independently, but the release must happen at the right time of course. Do you have a video on this already? If not, I would really love to see one! 👍🏻 All the best!

[@diminishedreturn]

Addition: I found your 'wrists' video from around a year ago and it answered a few of my questions. I've had a tendency to (unintentionally) put my hands too far out towards the ball line and I try to work on getting my hands back down to the correct hand position closer to the body. However, when I focus on external rotation of the trail forearm and getting the elbow in front of the body, my forearm tends to end up in a horizontal position pointing out from my abdomen area, which puts the hands (as a consequence) a forearm's length away from my body which is too far out, right? Still, I see you demonstrate this position too, so I'm not sure if it's an actual position, or an exaggerated "feel". Shouldn't the trail forearm in fact move more vertical closer to the trail thigh, with the wrist closer to the trail kneecap? I'd really appreciate if you took the time to clarify! 🙏🏻 I'd also really like to know what 'mechanics' make the lead hand glove logo turn from pointing "away from my chest" (toward the ball, perpendicular to target line-a somewhat horizontal position) to a more vertical position with the logo pointing to the target-which I feel is the correct position before going into extension(?) I realize this is all a bit "much" for KZbin comments, buy maybe you like to engage, I'm not sure. Any input highly appreciated! Thanks!

[@measuredgolf]

The trail wrist starts in extension with the face square and must release or let go and still return with extension. The throw you mention simply shuts the face and then you must use the body to try and open the face instead of being able to use the body to create speed. As for the rest, you are welcome to hire me on Skillest and we can get to work on what you need. All the best.

[@measuredgolf]

Like I said, sounds like you need a coach and you can find me on Skillest, all the best.

[@diminishedreturn]

@@measuredgolf Thanks for the quick reply! I totally see the problem balancing "free info" vs proper coaching and I wasn't sure what one can ask in the comments and what not. You do have several videos that go into quite some detail and there is much to digest there. Then as you say: I'm starting to realise that at the end of the day it is not access to information that is the problem, but rather that "feel isn't real" and sometimes we just need to have another person look at us and provide insight. It's cool that you can offer coaching online, and I have mulled over the idea before with other coaches with similar offers. But for me I think I would prefer to see someone local in person, as I simply think there has to be a direct line of communication face to face in that situation. Yes... Zoom calls and so on, but I still think in person would be better. Especially when the prices are similar. The trick then become finding someone that seems knowledgeable enough!! 😅

[@measuredgolf]

@@diminishedreturn best of luck.

[@lekster0015]

I try to shallow the club since so many time without success. I'm not OTT but my shoulders open and my shaft is steep in transition then I stand up to late shallow. So what you are saying is that the opening of my shoulders or if you prefer the center of the sternum, should opens toward the target but I should learn how to shallow the club with the wrist? I'm lost in this move. Any help will be appreciated. Do you think I should find the way to shallow the shaft naturally or try to put the shaft in a shallow position in order to understand it? Excellent video as always, thanks!

[@measuredgolf]

Sounds more like early extension which would mean you want to watch our videos on loading the pressure into the trail side during the backswing. Applying more wrist is never the answer and often is what gets in the way of moving the body efficiently. All the best.

[@lekster0015]

@@measuredgolf Yes, I early extend, maybe I'm wrong, but I think I early extend in order to late shallow the shaft which is too steep in transition. Makes sense? If so, you still think I should focus on trail side loading? If that's the case which video are you refering too? Is it one of those? "Managing the Grapes: Learning How to Load and Unload the Body" or "The Concept of Loading and Unloading the Body During the Golf Swing"? Thanks again! :)

[@measuredgolf]

Early extending does not shallow the club. Whichever video works best for you. All the best.

[@lekster0015]

@@measuredgolf Respect your opinion but got to disagree on this one. If I stand up my upper body, the club gets shallower or gets more from the inside but not the desired way.

[@measuredgolf]

@@lekster0015 think you should do some reading on biomechanics. Body rotating is a shallower body stoping and standing up is a steeper. All the best.

[@archiedarcy4845]

Nice video. New subscriber.

[@measuredgolf]

Appreciate it, all the best.

[@jasonvalchine9364]

just putting attention to the sterna clavicular joint helps bring awareness to the parts of the body that need to move toward the ball.. good stuff.

[@measuredgolf]

Happy it helped! All the best.

[@Dave-bb7co]

Background Music is distracting

[@measuredgolf]

Don’t use any in your videos. All the best.

[@TheRealLanceCummings]

What does that even mean, "power to the ball"? Yeah, I kinda know. But vague verbiage like that isn't helping. At all.

[@measuredgolf]

Your right, moving your Sternoclavicular joint isn’t specific enough. Have a great day.

[@derekwhyle1884]

@@measuredgolf a good teacher has to have tolerance and patience. Your answer betrays your lack of both. Disappointed

[@measuredgolf]

@@derekwhyle1884 , Thinking KZbin content is the same as coaching is the real shame. Find someone you like better to offer your advice. All the best.

[@derekwhyle1884]

@@measuredgolf you are a sad man

[@danmartin3402]

please lose the music

[@measuredgolf]

Please put on mute and read the captions. All the best.

[@VimMitt]

Disagree completely.

[@measuredgolf]

If you disagree, you should publish your research so the entire medical community can rewrite the anatomy of the human body. Sorry, but the sequencing of the joint segments of the body aren’t really one of those things still being debated by the people that have degrees in these things. All the best.