Understanding Warding and Vision - Dota 2 Fundamentals (Episode 11)

[@clvnclmnt]

I already know all of these but the way you explained everything made me understand it better. Again, from someone who loves playing and understanding the game, I appreciate these videos. Thank you, brother!

[@iTs_rllY_Philly]

I do find it funny BSJ is using an AM skin wearing a blindfold in a video explaining vision 🤣

[@renardor]

Also one other tip about vision, that i wish i knew before. When you use targetted spells (it works on most spells, if not all) on heroes (like CM's frosbite for eg), the enemy gain vision of the caster

[@Ah-oh4wk]

Remember moonshard is an item that gives night vision in the lategame. So beware of enemy carries during the night.

[@BaufenBeast]

And of course there's also Wolf Bite from Lycan which can give Nightstalker 2800 flying vision during his ult.

[@coco5593]

Ah yes, the flashlight strat

[@rileythomas7097]

Nice

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

​@@coco5593 yo wtf is it real

[@coco5593]

@@iPlayDotaReligiously Wdym is it real? The strat is memey but it kinda works

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

@@coco5593 woww just realize it yea, both gv extra night vis

[@ClainSArchive]

As a low immortal player, these types of videos are a really good memory refresher and you can often learn new things or get reminded to do a good habit. I for one definitely didnt do the wards with smoke habit at night as much (I usually do it intuitively but only a few times) so watching this now reminded me to do it constantly. Thanks for the videos!

[@johnsevilla9755]

you spelled low archon player wrong

[@haikal9329]

@@johnsevilla9755 no

[@sgamerhd442]

@@johnsevilla9755 thats ur rank doggo

[@arvzgarcia.agency]

why these 3 dogs above me arguiing? typical heralds wanna be immortal aka John Sevilla, Sgamer HD and Haikal. SEA DOGS

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

​@@sgamerhd442 HAHAH XD

[@samuelelliott8453]

Meanwhile in my bracket, I can't tell if the enemy team is so good at warding that I can't find their wards or if they're just not warding at all because who needs vision.

[@Juncboks]

This is why reviewing your matches helps you understand things better.

[@samuelelliott8453]

@@Juncboks I always learn so much from reviewing my games but I'm lazy xD

[@ElChocoLocoDeLaVega]

Also if you're getting actively dewarded, there are some cliffs you can hide observers on by having someone cut a tree for you.

[@LemonKushty]

Excellent video Brian. The fundamentals are a great series and keep them coming; I think way more people need to watch this.

[@hedutin]

5:47 wrong that's not flying vision, that's ground vision but on high ground. Flying vision provides unobstructed vision all around you despite elevation changes.

[@serious_g]

I like how you used Anti-Mage to explain vision. He's BLIND, not deaf

[@armiddle29]

Using chat teleport command instead of AM blink from cliff What a legend!

[@macariuswrench]

love videos like this BSJ, nitty gritty explanations on the finer mechanics, hope to see more!

[@mmortal8183]

Didn't realize that Slark had 1800 night vision. More reasons to hate and ban Slark every single game as a support. Stupid snitching fish.

[@gnardawgyt]

I learned so much from this, maybe your best video in a while! thank you!

[@teagen4419]

Thanks for another great video bsj, you’ve helped me climb out of the trench of herald and into archon in a matter of months

[@leventoztulumbaci]

wow it's an honour to know that I'm already doing the expert level warding in Guardian bracket :)

[@kyoteecasey]

guardian is a trap man. i recalibrated from high archon 6 months ago and been stuck in guardian ever since. I also feel like the average skill of this game is ever increasing, making learning the game from scratch even harder

[@leventoztulumbaci]

@@kyoteecasey that's right, skill level has increased so much in a couple of years, everyone does his job well. That's because of content creators IMO; as everyone "learns" on how to play the game.

[@xtianebernal]

You forgot about being smoked with vision and the smoke breaks so it's wise to plant a sentry or use dust or true sight abilities. Next one is, might be complicated but during smoke, planting any ward can have a chance to give away your smoke since that spot you planted your ward might have a sentry + obs. So what i always do is sentry first so at least youd have a second to judge if planting an obs there is worth. Otherwise plant it outside the sentry range. Still gives out the smoke though, since the enemy sees someone planted a sentry there.

[@robinv1485]

it's never worth to sentry first in that situation because you want to get the jump on the opponent. The faster you do that the most likely the smoke is to be successful. If you place a ward it takes you miliseconds to reach the opponent with a blink initiation or even certain spells. It's the same time it takes for the opponent to see the ward on the minimap, and that's if he's looking, so he will not be able to react regardless. But if you place a sentry and then take time to make the decision to observer? Now you're giving that all up. Cause he will see the sentry, have time to think about it since well, you're doing the same, and then reach the conclusion right when you're placing the observer, effectively letting him dodge stuff such as blinks. Not to mention chances are your sentry will not give you vision of the enemy sentry at night time, you have to walk around most likely.

[@maxheslop2890]

great video, been playing dota since 2013 and still didnt know some of these :)

[@samuelellringmann3424]

BSJ why do i always win even if I never watch your tutorials?

[@Real18800]

"Disconnect" "This game is now safe to leave"

[@rileythomas7097]

Thanks for the info gym boss

[@Champigne]

Thanks, this was really helpful.

[@alibazoubandi9221]

Thanks for the brilliant content 🔥

[@joncena3028]

Thanks BSJ. I can see my future clearly now, even at night time.

[@loganvandeusen]

Focusing really hard on the blink dagger am with blink not leveled

[@kellaiahmunoz7554]

Thank you for these BSJ, i understand it even more. this really helps specially a support player like me.

[@AMassiveHeadache]

I did not know about Undyings tombstone giving that much vision. and TIL the exact number for Pugnas is only 600. also Hoodwinks trees give her vision, one of the many reasons i love playing her.

[@MultiDevvrat]

Hey BSJ, another great addition to the video could be Hero powers that help deward, like Jakiro ice path and Zeus lightning . These are the 2 I know, would be great to know others. Thanks!

[@dj_vanx]

Crystal Maidens Q

[@parham1023]

Or disruptor E.

[@Juncboks]

Rocket flare, shrapnel...

[@nathijomac]

Venge w

[@sgamerhd442]

hoodwink Q, ancient apparation W

[@syedrehanfida]

Thank you!

[@rakkireyes6411]

thanks for this, master!

[@pcxxy]

awesome stuff like always smoking into enemy triangle but getting killed instead happens to me every single time lmao

[@wsk1124]

Thank you

[@Floki_here]

thnx man

[@amrooo1405]

Great video BSJ. keep it up.

[@sebastian8657]

OMG ty the amount of times i have to tell players to stop put wards on cliff since its such an obvious deward is literally every game !

[@Juncboks]

I usually try for eye vision first. If it gets rewarded then I know the enemy at least has basic dwarfing skills and I'll opt for better placement. But don't just abandon the best warding off the bat.

[@ACharmedEarthling]

Would have been good to mention moonshard too for a night vision buff you can buy.

[@nickf8041]

Would be cool to understand how far creeps see and how to camp creepwaves

[@jonathanfan3709]

it say moving or attacking if you don't move and enemy walk besides you does it break it?

[@Vipp0n]

Slark has full night vision because of his lore

[@sadcyclops8909]

and also because he is a broken hero

[@nemesisbuwaa4532]

Very helpful thanks..

[@andre881]

The best dota teacher

[@yellowscarlightningscream8347]

Wow, never knew slark had 1800 night vision

[@edwardrayan5101]

nice and usefull video

[@danielgunchev3791]

Good video

[@Dota2Lessons]

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[@DeadAhead710]

How long does it take a tree to respawn?

[@eduardoracciatti2108]

Slark has bonus nightvision because he is the NightCrawler if I remember correctly

[@Juncboks]

Even from gameplay perspective, though. He's a hero who's ult relies on vision and is a ganking, poking skirmisher. His ability to work requires that vision. But yes, lore wise it's backed up.

[@PawnerSawyer]

My guy has Anti-Mage and uses teleport command to get off a cliff IM DEAD :D

[@red-hairedshanks8369]

Algo for the comment

[@amirarsalanrajabi-fn8gy]

useful

[@randomguy2108]

wait a minute, when did smoke become imune to true sight?

[@DotADouX.Sheep_D_Ceb]

Uuhhh did I read smoke of deciet description correctly??!? Or did it say attacking or moving?!

[@sadcyclops8909]

it also breaks smoke if you attack, this has nothing to do with the detection range. moving in detection range also breaks it. thats what it means. btw u can cast spells and items and stay invis with smoke, if you didnt know

[@levinlan7129]

what about vision providing skills?

[@nltiro3387]

as if there are any new dota players, usleess vid

[@capj1347]

BSJ there is something in your hair.

[@stevedaguy9639]

Advanced night vision

[@SomeCallMeStone]

Do you think rushing gem is a viable strat?

[@BaufenBeast]

Depending on the enemy draft, maybe. If they're really good at pickoffs, rushing gem is dangerous because you could just die for an 1800 gold swing. Usually, you'll want some kind of escape item first. If I'm playing Pangolier against a team I want a gem for (lots of invis heroes), I'll get my roll up shard first so I can only die to a very focused gank.

[@SomeCallMeStone]

@@BaufenBeast ty for your insight. You might allow a more - suitable hero hold also

[@jeremiahnico7958]

The reason slark have night vision because he is murloc nightcrawler

[@etofok]

instead of AM shouldve used terrorblade

[@chessl6928]

great content and all but, he actually bought blink on anti mage :D

[@dj_vanx]

i know this sounds cliche...but...the cornerstone of mastering a system is understanding the fundamentals. Ask questions like WHY is this thing the way it is...instead of just doing it because that's what you do. Like this...the 3 finger stance in american football. The linemen bend over and put three fingers on the ground to ready for scrimmage as a simple fundamental. if you just bend over and put three fingers on the ground because every other guy is then you will get ran over. What you need to understand about the fundamental of this stance is not to just bend over...you have to straighten your lower back and stick your butt out, clench your ass cheeks and stiffen your calves at your tiptoes, and when QB says HIKE, you explode off the line like a cannon. That dude has excellent interpretation of how people learn and the psychology of how to teach the micro evaluation mastery a knight must have in order to ingrain core fundamentals into their psyche. Because this game is so fast...he is teaching you how to train psychologically, not just physically... using your mind/body in order to understand core fundamentals to the point where they become instinctive. He isn't just teaching you HOW to win, he's teaching you how to BECOME a winner. Learning from a master lets you create your own style of playing... instead of being a typical KD whore that repetitively exploits broken heroes. First thing last, ask yourself....why do I want to learn this...? Go ahead...ask yourself.

[@NakedGhost3234]

Wow, if it's got to do with vision, Speed has nothing on this!

[@Vlad-bq1mn]

Speed is a hyperbolic hamster running on sugar.

[@lightmorrison5404]

@@Vlad-bq1mn true

[@embermeister1392]

ty mr pale horse

[@dylanbyrne9591]

I'm here despite the lack of Twitter link, tut tut

[@wheres6thstreet]

💪🥶

[@Xenodyne]

Good info, poor mic audio quality

[@Fas7Blas7]

Bounty runes look juicy 🤤

[@yf8979]

time stamps pleeeaassee

[@attilaberdy9728]

Thanks for the video! 420th like!

[@no3ironman11100]

bit of a messy explanation for beginners but this is ok.

[@sunbro6998]

I like Slark too!! But yeah, he kinda sucks, really needs to be a 3. People always trying to play him as the 1.

[@jakubjanca285]

I actually played Dota 2 after half year long break and it did not change a bit. Griefers all matches literally we were 2/25 in all matches at minute 10 even without my feed participation. If anyone is playing game to get better, there is no point in that as matchmaking is full of flaws. You can make an argument that I just need to get better, but that is just pure copium. Healthy game and matchmaking looks totally different, shame as game mechanics and systems are at pretty good place, guess some of the devs knows math :), also price for cosmetics is astronomical and it is like that only because few people play the game and even fewer buy stuff, which will not improve until something drastically change for casual average player. Game is not fun, tryharding every game to at least have a chance of winning is not fun and still it is not guaranteed as game will try to balance things by putting you against best player at your rating which is smurf or booster :). As one pro player (coach now) once said even for best pro players it would take long time to get from Herald to Immortal as game would not allow fast climbing. Maybe you saw some smurf episodes from some of "immortal" players, I too can go 25/0/0 and solo carry the game, but would not wish anyone what comes after, 3 or 4 smurf accounts on enemy team going godlike on accounts that just calibrated. I wrote all this to you guys who are hard trying to climb and loosing time on this game, there are games that are more fun and rewarding and actually do not **** with your precious time. Exodus from Dota has been finished. Enjoy!

[@robinyli-santti9164]

800x5=4000 800/1800=2,25

[@The_Casual_Person]

Area, not radius.

[@StereoGrow]

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[@MrRifts]

Content is fantastic as always but Bro, where is your normal mic? Your levels on this are terrible. Someone send him like 5 mics so he always has one

[@kazuyamishima9053]

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[@92koru40]

Ima comment this as long as he sees it.. get a new mic dude, you're a professional streamer, this shit is hard to listen to

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[@Reptard45]

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