Unless the "again" comes from some other unknown entity?
@tektheprotogen6 ай бұрын
It's probably gaster, because if you die and asgore isnt the one killing you, the timeline breaks, and he revives you himself. Idk tho.
@thescers_original6 ай бұрын
Hey can you kill every monster but let the bosses lives in undertale yellow?
@norawatkins47136 ай бұрын
Don't you dare...
@buffwagon6 ай бұрын
Don't over complicate lore with theories, trust me.
@TheComicalCosmo6 ай бұрын
anger is a beast
@TheRealUltimare6 ай бұрын
I always thought the "Again" was Clover commanding Flowey to revive him similar to how he did at the beginning of the Steamworks with the door
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Oooh, that's a very interesting theory My interpretation was that it's Clover pushing either themselves or you to try again, but it could be that too!
@tweets0096 ай бұрын
yeahh i see it as flowey just pushing clover to continue again and again, but to be fair flowey did get angry at you for killing people for bringing too much attention by the hotel and probably putting everything on lockdown but at the same time he wouldve realised you had the power to defeat a strong monster and asgore but definitely underestimated the fact that he would get killed too and clover was just way too strong
@NecessaryNonsense9905 ай бұрын
Can’t be, it doesn’t have his text sound
@dedelblute39466 ай бұрын
Clover after powering up: “So I started blasting” Clover after dying; “Death is for criminals, so I kept blasting”
@snowboneee640313 күн бұрын
"justice"
@TylerGaming2.06 ай бұрын
Considering that after axis in genocide, strange yellow text appears and only appears more when martlet is dead, this could be another sign of the determination
@Janazufr6 ай бұрын
Something tells me that the Determination comes from Clover's desire for Justice. It's quite interesting! garoEyes 🤗💗👌🏽🐉
@teamhydrangeaP4046 ай бұрын
Yes. All human souls have determination. Except those whose decisive trait isn't determination is required to have their view infringed upon to trigger it. Integrity probably triggered theirs from lies and misinformation; and that gets acted upon(keep in mind Dalv attacked blue first, then blue killed people and axis is sent to neutralize them). So Clover got theirs from seeing a person who wronged one of their kind.
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Yeah that's very true
@bruhbrehii6 ай бұрын
What if it's because flowey's fear overcomes his determination? At some point we scare him, so what if that's what does it, he just loses his determination out of fear!
@KashPluxer6 ай бұрын
Like Undyne then
@minestar22476 ай бұрын
@@teamhydrangeaP404I don't think determination is a trait. thus definitely makes sense, even for undertale
@rojava87856 ай бұрын
Dude undertale yellow is so cool and Clover is a badass in genocide
@johay8996 ай бұрын
In all routes, really, especially genocide and pacifist
@two68335 ай бұрын
More like edgy honestly
@skell61345 ай бұрын
@@two6833Clover is avenging killed humans,i dunno whats edgy about that
@legalza08436 ай бұрын
I also want to point out clovers determination is an upward ramp, what fuels his determination is his mission. So while it isn’t gained naturally from leveling up, it’s because LOVE makes you feel less mercy that makes clover feel less and less for monsters until only his mission remains, fueling his desire to complete it, thus fueling his determination.
@poyopowerplant6 ай бұрын
Really felt like Clover was pushing me around during Zenith Martlet, I seriously considered resetting just to spite them lol
@we_like_quaq76196 ай бұрын
Flowey: CLOVER! USE YOUR DAMN BRAIN. Clover: *gun*
@kevinma2666 ай бұрын
Clover may have said the dialogue for the game over screen but there's one thing that doesn't exactly line up with Clover being the one to save and load during the Zenith Marlet battle. If you press "Continue" on the game over screen, Flowey will still greet you like anywhere else. This wouldn't make sense if Clover saved himself since through Flowey's perspective it would be like Clover had just saved and wouldn't know about Clover loading up the save file. Let's say Flowey does know that Clover now has the ability to load his save file. I don't think that Flowey will still greet Clover anymore or let it slide.
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Interesting. I only ever pressed "retry" but not "continue" when dying to Zenith Martlet. I'll have to look into this, thanks!
@SuperSeasonChannel20035 ай бұрын
I think the only reason Flowey IS still saving at that point is because Clover is letting him
@pancakelad48186 ай бұрын
clover pulled out their cheats
@jeremiegodie10336 ай бұрын
Bro finnaly understood how the respawn button works
@galak-two-ya6 ай бұрын
One of the main things that got me to play through the Genocide route besides just wanting to see every route was so that I could get to shoot Flowey in his stupid ass face. It was totally worth it.
@CertainBloodyBunny5 ай бұрын
Clover doesn't use neither need determination. If we remember, the yellow soul, is the culmination of justice. Justice, when is used on egoistical or wrong purposes, is called "vengeance". That is what made clover level up on axel's battle. After hearing about the human soul, he got angrier and decided to avenge every poor human soul who died there. And that means a genocide for "justice".
@KesleyGomes-fr5ty6 ай бұрын
Now, hear me out. Remember that you can absorb boss monsters souls? Maybe martlet is a boss monster, and you absorbed her soul, gaining her determination (from the serum). and for the explanation of the death screen, remember how clover was already ignoring flowey before? I don't think i need to further explain this
@willowlium5 ай бұрын
if she was a boss monster then her soul would have to stick around after she dies (which is necessary for clover to even be able to absorb it) but that doesn't happen. if clover did absorb her soul, that would probably have been shown like with asgore's soul
@flowerene26306 ай бұрын
The fact that every time Flowey’s name is mentioned they use the creepiest faces from that fight 🥲 I literally couldn’t sleep because of that fight it was BAD.
@nicholastaylor53545 ай бұрын
Asgore: we will rebuild, goodbye. *trident breaks on impact* Clover: TIRO FINALE!!!!
@simplyjustmono6 ай бұрын
the determination must have come from the need to deliver justice. since axis has killed a human clover’s determination must have come from their wanting to deal justice against the monsters upon knowing that their side neutralised a human
@sunky26892 ай бұрын
Clover after genocide: *You Have Obtained BIDEN BLAST*
@MT-by1dp6 ай бұрын
I heard that if you do a genocide run until after killing Ceroba, then abort the run into neutral, you can have Ceroba as one of the attacks. Pls check if this is true
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
This is true! I did an aborted genocide run and had ceroba's shadow form appear in the flowey fight
@MT-by1dp6 ай бұрын
@@GaroShadowscale will you make a video on that?
@dimensionCrystal5 ай бұрын
When i played the neutral route, i never died until the final fight (i am stuck there now) so i was surprised when i heard that flowey talks to you when you die
@Another_car_guyАй бұрын
It would be cool once you revive yourself with determination the slaughter continues just plays
@jlinus72513 ай бұрын
Considering that the monsters literally kill innocent children and take their souls, justice must be served!
@malisonlor3885 ай бұрын
"GRRRRRRR" "IM CLOVER AND I HAVE A GUN"
@noahthesk6 ай бұрын
if I were clover I would be pissed off too if I found out some bitch robot killed One of my only companions I think their determination comes from hatred and anger but the desire to provide justice
@mercenarypark5 ай бұрын
i dont think its coming from anywhere but themselves. each soul has a trait, and they are perpetuated to follow through with that trait. bravery, for example. they are determined to be brave.
@Gray_Knight_User6 ай бұрын
Still have part of me thinking that all of them are determination just different parts, which does kinda explain why frisk was the last one with the literal soul of determination.
@robertoxlnubillux89646 ай бұрын
Its really interesting how in every route everyone mentions you have some type of determination, but in the true pacifist route they all just see justice in you
@bennyromaplayz2375 ай бұрын
It's revenge, and justice that gives you determination. In the neutral run, Flowey also says that people say yellow means justice.
@thetrueblooper88226 ай бұрын
Undertale Green when?
@mrsphealtheseal5 ай бұрын
Thing is Flowey knows when you reset. He's literally the only monster who remembers. He'd have no reason to be surprised at the end that Clover took control of his power if that was the case. And probably would've went crying to the king first chance he got otherwise. Maybe Clover speaking is signifying instead how close they are to gaining that ability?
@KiwiDuckL6 ай бұрын
Sorry I just got a notification during the live soooo I had to check it out. 😅
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
No worries! Enjoy
@Sillygoober88286 ай бұрын
Bro is the new matpat.
@bigyoshi45554 ай бұрын
My fav part of the genocide run is clover pointing at an obstacle he cant pass
@katarinaclaes966 ай бұрын
Aww such determination 🥺👏
@the_random68266 ай бұрын
Man, I haven't even played UNDERTALE: YELLOW yet. :(
@EngineerGaming7822 ай бұрын
Don't you know? Determination is stored in the balls
@cototototorra71062 ай бұрын
That might explain why flowey doesn’t do anything to stop you, as he was heavily against the idea to go and beat up marlet and just wanted you to go to asgore already, so if it was him who was loading the safe then he would at some point force clover to do what he wants, maybe floweys pov is Clover first timing marlet
@Rexj3217 күн бұрын
I once came up with theory... that DETERMINATION is in fact Power of will. It's not just a certain thing or resource, but your real determination, which implies that the more you determined, the stronger you are. It really explains it, and also it's funny because it implies you can probably get stronger and power up without killing anyone, like Clover did when Axis revealed his "neutralising mission", but it does not have to be Vengeance... it can also be something else.
@user-ri1jn9lk2h6 ай бұрын
Wow thanks for takeing my theory into consideration! This means a lot to me so thanks! Unless you thought of this yourself witch you probably did lol.
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't remember, haha. I write down ideas as soon as I have them then go down the list night by night when I write scripts. Either way, thank you!
@ninothesavage70986 ай бұрын
This is a really good video, you explained it really well
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Rexj3217 күн бұрын
Actually... the Undertale Yellow Genocide is really scared me off. Especially the moment before and after fight with Zenith Martlet when if you try to go anywhere else the place you should go... no one, but Clover himself says you should go another way. It just make you realise how far it's gone. And it's frightening but also reliving at once, because you realise it's not just you who does it. Like... You felt your fault in the original Undertale or Deltarune when it was your fault completely, but here... the protogonist shares goal with you and it's quite terrifying.
@borgorbuger6 ай бұрын
Nah man hes just too god damn angry to die
@Flowermations6 ай бұрын
The power of child temper tantrums are just too powerful in the Undertale Universe, to the point where the SOUL becomes unbreakable.
@minestar22476 ай бұрын
de-termination ,
@3ftninja1324 ай бұрын
_LOVE, too, is an acronym. It stands for "Level of Violence." A way of measuring someone's capacity to hurt._
@Call_Me_Satan_Sweetz4 ай бұрын
the robot that got its eye shot off is actually Mettaton
@dennisthepickle884511 күн бұрын
Bro turned super sayian.
@user-ic7si6jh2u6 ай бұрын
Now imagine...Some child like bravery soul falls. At this time flowey is VERY kind(He was kind like UF version at the start but then slowly becomes mad manipulator wich wants to see everyone suffer) has Determination, but Child also has much of it, so they're having shared file and when flowey is "not here", you load it and when he's there, with power of both you can REVIVE(not restart, but revive on some kind of checkpoint). In Geno ending you will corrupt file and betray flowey, on neutral where you killed someone he will say:"I don't want for you and anyone to die!Sorry,but I need to do it..." then he resets and tells us to be good with EVERYONE, then on Pacifist some kind of monster friend (like that Bunny in SNOWDIN shop with these items) will ask human to stay, but then Royal Guards finding child and bringing him to Asgore and after a hard fight with help of Flowey Asgore will still take our soul, we will say goodbye to everyone and then die(yeah totally not UT yellow pacifist ending copy). Also there will be moment like:"Wow! You can dash THROUGH attack!?Good idea!" and this will ne an explanation of orange attacks...Also I want to see Clover's honest reaction to meeting other human souls(like when he was with this and how they will act to each other)
@shazaz10596 ай бұрын
Debatable opinion: Clover is a better protagonist compared to Frisk
@angeleggez22 ай бұрын
clover: shut, im doing mewing.
@freezingfire31575 ай бұрын
Yeah to think of it. Frisk is technically the weakest fallen human, since it doesn't have a unique trait. And no it was explained that determination is a hulan thing so all humans can use it. They just gotta try harder. Frisk though had help from another human soul. Chara's. That's why flowey lost its ability when frisk drops in the underground.
@rafsandomierz53135 ай бұрын
It's not really an human trait in Undertale *all LIVING beings have determination.*
@i_camioneta16974 ай бұрын
I think in undertale cannon, the other humans had the ability to save and load, they just gave up because they couldn't get past asgore.
@carmakha2 ай бұрын
Can someone explain me two-3 things? -Why flowey dont kill asgore with his superior abilities? He can litteraly undone every attacks and manipulate the files - Why F. pacifist Clover lose to asgore? (Flowey could help but he didnt) And even so, Clover was strong enough because according to Flowey, defeat Cebora is a skill good enough to defeat Asgore (or challenge him at least). I understand the reasons for Genocide, thats cool I think the best ending is really the true pacifist ending in first position, 2nd Genocide, 3rd Neutral (but the flowey fight is just amazing and) , 4- the F. pacifist for the reasons above
@frecraks98582 ай бұрын
It has an explanation, sans said that the LV means level of violence. So Clover be determined to mete out justice for increasing its level.
@gamercentral24175 ай бұрын
The reason it says “again” is cause clover demands flowey You still require flowey to save and he even confronts you on this during the fight with axis. Meaning he could still save and load when you were lv 19
@milkmoemoe2 ай бұрын
genocide is fun, but i am a little sad you couldnt do a genocide run as clover then play classic undertale with clover's genocide still being possible when considering continuity
@Argentinaball-gp5zf3 ай бұрын
I thought that it was flowey complaing like "really man? again? again"
@PeachIceCreamy6 ай бұрын
Your LOVE is a representation of how easy it is for you to bring yourself to hurt others. When clover learned axis killed a human, it became very easy for clover to hate monsters far more than he already did.
@Ahmed_sayed1223 күн бұрын
The reason you power up in the genocide axis boss because when he told you he neaturlized the blue soul(integrity) your intent for killing is increased and because the yellow soul trait is justice your justice and intent combine to increase your love.
@aure..2 ай бұрын
For me that just the power of the muscular froggit
@calbum70785 ай бұрын
The way I see it, each of the souls' traits is powerful in it's own way, determination is just the most powerful. It's potentially implied that Integrity is it's own thing as well, and Clover seems to be powered up specifically by Justice
@Alex36494 ай бұрын
Undertale Orange when? Oh wait im making that and forgot well thats an extra year on the so far 27 years of development time XD
@hamzagames1156 ай бұрын
I heard martlet talking in tje distance from my home while sleeping
@kylelovespenguins67625 ай бұрын
During the fight with geno axis,.if you die he thinks about not bringing yOu back
@someone_boed5 ай бұрын
clover:no thoughts just gun and detemination
@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk4 ай бұрын
I like how Clover has to sell their soul for DT, and Frisk just fuckin has it. Clover overthrows Flowey AFTER murdering everyone. Frisk does it unwittingly.
@tweets0096 ай бұрын
plus also ontop of being more determined flowey is already struggling against you for control over the timeline so when you kill him clover is technically the most determined one currently alive and so flowey wouldn't be able to reload after dying anymore even if he somehow matched clovers determination still
@Kirn.5 ай бұрын
I'm 95% sure the death text in Zenith Martlet is just Clover's thoughts. The first time Clover saves on their own is after Flowey says the human souls are "my souls."
@hcn67085 ай бұрын
“Deliver “justice” to AXIS”
@Heapus5 ай бұрын
"I always come back"
@Taffles-hh9cu4 ай бұрын
clover commanding flowey makes more sense because flowey still has the save point you can go back to while fighting martlet right?
@Duclister5 ай бұрын
To me, is the Player Voice talking with Clover and bringing them back. Clover determination is expressed in Yellow Text while the text in the game over screen is white. After beating Genocide you also still can Reset the world even if Flowey is gone. So I don't Think Clover at this point of the run would like to come Back after what they did(Losing all their memories in the process) So regardless of Clover determination, the Player is the one that really determine the end (and the reset) of this run.
@imperianin6 ай бұрын
Remember! It's justice, not determination, justice powers you up, not determination
@existenceispain_geekthesiren6 ай бұрын
Justice powers you up, but determination comes from that. Determination is just the unwillingness to die, and if you want to deliver justice, you probably won't want to let yourself die before it's wraught.
@Ahaa6866 ай бұрын
Nah its determination.
@kwarc10096 ай бұрын
If Clover can already use their own file before confronting flowey, then this is further proof uty isn't cannon complainant with ut - if we die and load, flowey should remember (as shown in ut), but after we kill The Extra Silly Bird Woman he is surprised that he lost his SAVE/LOAD powers.
@ThePullumFamily5 ай бұрын
So Clover is basically using the specks of determination in his soul
@enzogusman23436 ай бұрын
Watching this video fills you it JUSTICE.
@Hazeaintfeseable.2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he doesn’t rely on determination, sure. All human souls have determination, but it isn’t apart of their dominant trait, unlike a certain golden soul (frisk)…. Anyway, i think the thing that empowered Clover was his Vengeance, further powering him up to serve justice to the robot commanded by the now dead fox of our loved widow (Ceroba)…. And serve justice to assgore for a little more yap.
@King_of_Clovers6 ай бұрын
Where does the idea that the more LV means more determination come from?
@fluffy73586 ай бұрын
It literally just comes from the correlation between the LVs you gain from beating Axis and your newly discovered weeding abilities shortly after the fact. My theory is simply that Clover sharpens their own Determination to a fine point over the course of the Genocide route. The LVs certainly help, don't get me wrong, but they aren't the end-all-be-all of the situation. Remember, Flowey was injected with Determination, but only human souls actively PRODUCE it.
@King_of_Clovers6 ай бұрын
@@fluffy7358 I am not talking about in Undertale yellow I am talk about the fandom as a whole. Think Dusttale, Sans is killing monsters so he is determination to beat the human and the same thing with Killertale.
@minestar22476 ай бұрын
it probably comes from undertale and how getting a higher level makes you more powerfull. and even without that, you still got the scene where clover powers up from pure power of will(determination)
@JonnySpec6 ай бұрын
Thinking about it, if Frisk's determination is the reason for "But it refused", then it's the opposite in Undertale from how the fandom thinks.
@minestar22476 ай бұрын
@@JonnySpec frisk literally used the power of friendship/love at that moment
@tyler_liwan56 ай бұрын
I assume that after Axis triggers Clover. Clover’s determination surpasses Flowey’s.
@Yourmominapony5 ай бұрын
I always thought that you absorbed the determination from martlet
@adark12896 ай бұрын
As I recall, doesn’t the fountain save point at the Mtt resort actually change during genocide to actually suggest that Clover’s the one saving that time?
@rogayboss694205 ай бұрын
Because all humans have determination, contrary to belief, its not a soul trait, its a thing all humans have
@Kenchi332 ай бұрын
The question is.....can Clover get a new hat
@Cicine596 ай бұрын
I wonder, why is flowey nice to you and all when you die, he’ll reset and clover won’t remember
@Nowiggles44 ай бұрын
For clover it's bravery instead of determination
@godversesans51522 ай бұрын
Is it really justice? From memory, he literally didn't have a choice because of his programming
@Squeaker46546 ай бұрын
So then, going by this logic, asgore has determination he used to revive you, but we know the monster can't have it or they turn into goopy bois
@T2yche3 ай бұрын
Justic souls are powerful enough to to ganerate determnation and revive at the same time, clover can one shot sans cuz his "judgment" Dont work one people who think their doing the worng thing and fully convinced that they are right
@user-ym8tc8sx1pАй бұрын
Bro is a kid and god of jugment Justine and dertermanation💀
@Harley-qf1of6 ай бұрын
Its that one scene from gildedguy vs purpleguy
@Connor_Kirkpatrick6 ай бұрын
If you select continue it brings you back to Flowey. Cool theory but not true
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Ahhh, I missed that detail. Will be a bit tricky for me to see that for myself now, but another commenter said the same, so I'll take your word for it
@Fandomator2 ай бұрын
I have a dumb theory. So, Marlet is a female bird. You know who else is a female bird? MARGERET FROM REGULAR SHOW!!!! They also have similar names!
@EvokeGamer5 ай бұрын
I just think that again was clover saying again to flowey and revive clover
@NecessaryNonsense9905 ай бұрын
Where was it said that determination allows you to reset timelines?
@sophiegerlofs46116 ай бұрын
I think I know what should be one of your final Theorys you know how in every episode of Game Theory Mario runs across the screen and then jumps on top of the title game theory? In that title screen is showing math and it looks like it's trying to calculate how much force Mario is kicking the shell. Maybe you can do a theory on that. You can also make theorys that you promised that you would make but never really had a chance to do maybe do something like make the fashion Theory You were talking about in that film Theory episode and actually make it or theorys that have been not completed yet like Mario destroying the Sun part 2 and Kirby is Evil part 2. All of these are just suggestions. You don't have to do them.
@zsdar5 ай бұрын
I KEEP SEEING THESE AND I HAVENT GOTTEN PAST STEAMWORKS BC MY PC BROKE WHAT DO I DO
@CommonPainW6 ай бұрын
So it’s canon that clover at end of genocide is as strong as 1 LV frisk?
@thephantomspectator4076 ай бұрын
I'm not really qualified to figure out how things work in genocide... Mine are pacifist Pawsies!🥺🐾
@GaroShadowscale6 ай бұрын
Yesh
@hwhamster32915 ай бұрын
My head cannon is clover can go Super saiyan
@Licho9355 ай бұрын
I have 0 knowledge about this game but the pixel art and animation looks so sick dude