Underwood 5 Typewriter Draw Band and Carriage Install, Wind Main Spring

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Some basic service on an Underwood model 5

[@bwhog]

They're big, and bulky, and loud, but I love these old Underwood Standard typewriters! 🥰😄

[@chrisriseley5677]

I learned so much from this video. Thank you for being a hero to the typewriter collectors all over the world.

[@najophotographyetc]

This REALLY helped me yesterday! Successfully replaced a broken drawband of a 1929 Underwood 3 with one from a 1936 Underwood 5 that was broken during shipping. I did it without removing the carriage as I was too lazy to do that, but used a screwdriver and hook tool to get the drawband connected to the carriage. Again, thank you also for all you do!

[@hans-henrikegede-nissen8615]

So instructive, so well explained - how much we learn from your videos! Thanks again for your generosity.

[@EagleYigeHuang]

Thank you sir. This drawbank thing saved my life!

[@johntapp1411]

Nice one of a model 5. I’ve owned several of them and have a 1917 model. They are noise-some clink-a-te-clink machines, and damned fun to type on.

[@sandrodunatov485]

great and very useful informative video

[@alexparson4472]

Great explanation to the point . Thank you

[@ephraimbrownmusic]

I JUST got one of these, and it had this EXACT problem (broken draw band) and this video has been very informative. thank you for putting the time in to make it..

[@kensvintagetoys873]

Very well presented, you didn't miss anything, even that little L shaped little fitting,

[@nathanrodriguez5891]

Amazing! Thank you!

[@cits4fun]

This video enabled me to install the draw band, no telling what would have happened without it as the band was half off when I got the Underwood 3 so assembly could not be the opposite of disassembly in this case. Hint: If you need to turn the thumbscrew to add more tension to the return drum you can save your fingers from overwork by using a screwdriver to apply pressure on the shaft which makes it MUCH easier to turn the knob. Mine had way more resistance than what was seen in the video, and it needed to be turned a lot as I hadn't preloaded the spring enough.

[@garylowzik4740]

Very helpful. Thanks for making these videos.

[@johntapp1411]

They made a boatload of these. Little bit of trivia: I have a 1946 Underwood Rhythm Shift, and a 1957 Royal RE electric (it still works very well). The Underwood has a serial number beginning 6059, and the Royal, made 11 years later, has a serial number beginning 6039!!!!

[@indro71]

Heeeey, there you are and again a great video.thnx

[@dadtype2339]

Duane if you can, PLEASE show a draw band replacement on a '70s Smith Corona Electra 110, although that's what I have, I am sure it's the same for a 120/210/220 and the Galaxie Deluxe from the '60s. I've had a hard time figuring that one out, and I've looked all through KZbin land and it would appear there is no video showing how to do this green circular devil! On my machines it's a green plastic disc. I tried to fix the one on my dead 120 Electra, just for practice, and it's a bizarre thing, again to me. I can break down the whole machine but I can't figure out that draw band replacement. The other day I saw it's on my Galaxie Deluxe and I bout pissed myself as it is on my 110, if either of those break, ....I'm a bit nervous if honest. Thank you.

[@annmariemayersky2944]

I need to get a replacement drawband, where can i get a replacement. Thank you

[@timothyconnelley6099]

Trying to repair one I just bought. It's in pretty rough shape and the drawband is totally dry rotted. Any suggestions where I might be able to find a replacement or how to fabricate one if necessary?

[@danmiller6890]

Great to see you back! Where did you get that wonderful green handled “starter screwdriver”? I’ve never seen one before. Can you still buy those?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

I have shot a dozen videos recently, but most didn't make minimum production standard or the repair went off the tracks, Green screw starter I acquired 5+ years ago with a bunch of stuff, about 2 yrs ago I finally used it and kept it near by, Been using it more & more, came with a slightly larger one too....

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

I fabricate draw bands to spec. Underwoods are usually $30 I do need the end hardware pieces, length of carriage etc. phoenixtyperiter.com

[@kelownagurrl]

Thanks for this video. My draw band is broken. Any suggestions as to what I should use to make myself a new one?

[@kelownagurrl]

I read a few places that I could use a piece of ribbon or a shoe lace. Not sure how strong it has to be. Also wondering how to rivet (or ?) the ends to the metal pieces.

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

Shoe lace is usually too thick, only has to hold 1 pound, nylon fabric trim ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYnKdHillJ2Snbs

[@zeenack63]

Where would I buy a extra one for these

[@alex_jermaine]

Liked and subbed! Do you know what's wrong if my spacebar doesn't work? The carriage doesn't move to the left when I press it. Do you have any clues?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

sounds like the draw band is broken

[@alex_jermaine]

​@@phoenixtypewriter2136 THANK YOU for replying, I know you must be busy :) If I needed to replace it, where would I go about looking for that specific drawband? Or can it be made/repaired?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

@@alex_jermaine I custom make these as needed, you first need the end pieces from the old band, then reproduce draw band and rewind main spring and attach. If you have the old pieces you can send them to me, I charge $25 to fabricate a new draw band

[@kensvintagetoys873]

I have one with a problem with the Bell, the mechanism works, but the Bell is not a Ring, but just a dud low thud even tapping it there is no ring, is it meant to be tightly fix to the frame or lose ?

[@BooksForever]

Tight.

[@johntapp1411]

This isn’t a very usual question, but I remember that some early unused or barely used drawbands were yellow in color. Is it true that such drawbands were made of sheep intestines, or “catgut”? My guess is that most early ones, especially pre-nylons, were. What are your thoughts?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

Good & interesting question, but I don't know for sure, like you I heard some wild stuff, including asbestos in the type bar rest pad. Most draw bands seem to be made from cotton, but I know the folks on FB typewriter groups would be interested

[@Magdapeeta]

Brilliant - and many thanks. I just picked up an Underwood 5 the serial number dates it from 1921. The only thing is it wouldn't advance - so finding this video within hours of buying it I know it's fixable. I just wish I could get hold of a draw band.... nothing on ebay etsy etc etc.... Any ideas any one? I'll be on the watch out - or I'll have to find a way of making one. Now there's a mountain. Brilliant thanks so much.

[@timothyconnelley6099]

😂 funny, I just bought one from 1920 and same problem. I'll keep my eye out and if I find a good place to get one, I'll let you know

[@dianerandall995]

thanks so much for this video. I am attempting to repair the drawband on my old Underwood No.5 and would like to know the length of cord I would need?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

Depends on the carriage length, but I never actual measure, I just rough estimate by moving carriage to right go from attachment point on right side carriage to half way around main spring, might be 14"

[@dianerandall995]

@@phoenixtypewriter2136 Thanks so much for the reply. I have tried several lengths and tensions at this point and the carriage still does not advance while typing. Could I be making it too tight? Could there be a different issue?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

@@dianerandall995 If typewriter is not spacing/moving when under tension, then something else is wrong You should be able to pull left knob to the left (simulated main spring tension) and it should space using spacebar

[@dianerandall995]

@@phoenixtypewriter2136 if i am understanding you correctly, yes i wound the spring several full turns and then hooked up the band according to your video. no action at all.

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

@@dianerandall995 Then something else is wrong, escapement stuck ? Investigation/troubleshooting is needed

[@kensvintagetoys873]

what is the length of of the carriage strap ?

[@phoenixtypewriter2136]

Carriage strap ? do you mean draw band ? Length depends on carriage length, 11" carriage is about 14", 14" carriage is about 17" I never measure with ruler, just eyeball it from mounting point to mounting point and add a little more

[@kensvintagetoys873]

@@phoenixtypewriter2136 thanks for the quick reply