Caitlin Clark's rookie triple-double, Angel Reese's double-double record, who's ROTY? | UNDISPUTED

Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese are making their cases for Rookie of the Year. Clark posted the WNBA's first-ever rookie triple-double, while Reese broke Candace Parker's record for consecutive games with a double-double (Reese has 13 in a row). Skip Bayless, Rachel Nichols and Keyshawn Johnson debate who should be Rookie of the Year as the WNBA approaches All-Star weekend and the halfway point.
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Caitlin Clark's rookie triple-double, Angel Reese's double-double record, who's ROTY? | UNDISPUTED
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[@dameondunlap7015]

I would've drafted Caitlin Clark over Bronny James. (algorithm don't want to post this comment)

[@marlonandres1312]

Haters undisputed 😂 fy im going to cc for roty not even close points assist triple double angel reese is like dennis rodman and they have the same nose 😂😂😂😂😂 cc roty oviusly you cc haters!

[@badboytrimble7746]

Her 60 assists were the most by a player in women's tournament history. Clark won all major national player of the year awards: AP Player of the Year, the Honda Sports Award, the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith College Player of the Year, USBWA National Player of the Year and the Wade Trophy. Vs Honors include NCAA Tournament Most Outstandings Player (2023), unanimous First Team All-American (2023), AP and USBWA All-American (2023), AP Third Team All-American (2022), First Team All-SEC (2023), First Team All-Big Ten (2022), Big Ten Conference All-Freshman Team (2021), among others. Angel Reese - USA Basketball

[@arthurmalonell115]

3 of 12 from the 3, Horrible 32 in the league from the 3 👎 Keep Dreaming son…….

[@badboytrimble7746]

Her 60 assists were the most by a player in women's tournament history. Clark won all major national player of the year awards: AP Player of the Year, the Honda Sports Award, the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith College Player of the Year, USBWA National Player of the Year and the Wade Trophy. Vs Honors include NCAA Tournament Most Outstandings Player (2023), unanimous First Team All-American (2023), AP and USBWA All-American (2023), AP Third Team All-American (2022), First Team All-SEC (2023), First Team All-Big Ten (2022), Big Ten Conference All-Freshman Team (2021), among others. Angel Reese - USA Basketball

[@NancySoo-y3h]

Apparently a triple double is such an easy thing, yet somehow no rookie in 26 years has ever gotten one…until now.

[@skcchiefs8928]

It's kind of sad the hate CC is getting simply because she's a basketball phenom and just happens to be a white girl.

[@smalways2651]

​@@skcchiefs8928😂

[@CSIme]

The same as 14 double doubles 🤷🏽‍♀️; both have never been done.

[@CSIme]

​@@skcchiefs8928There have been PLENTY of white girls that we love that are better players than CC. I like CC, but lets not think its because she is white. They just didnt have NIL and social media when they played in college, but they def have the championships and stats to show for it.

[@DM-3000]

She got LUCKY.

[@stevencanfield5590]

1000 rookies since wnba began has never had a triple double ever

[@MasterDailey1]

That’s the craziest stat! How has no other #1 pick or any rookie not had a triple double!

[@godsoracle1212]

Same number and non has done what Angel is doing.

[@ericjohnson1503]

Yeah how many of them rookies had 2 all star bail her out in Boston n Mitchell 😂😂😂 7-17 3-13 from 3 in her triple double game 😅😅😅

[@majestyzx9081]

​@@ericjohnson1503Mitchell isn't good for winning basketball. Can't be an ISO only player and help your team.

[@Dntturnround]

Over 9👀 rookies later. I see why ESPN and skip dem failing

[@davidmathewson1088]

Caitlin Clark as of July 8 leads the entire league in accounting for the most made baskets, whether by scoring or by assists. There is your WNBA Rookie of the Year.

[@nikkinites3176]

And turnovers....

[@tracywheat4560]

​@@nikkinites3176and every other stat, Reese is a joke.

[@jaimelopez900]

And angel reese leads the league in rebounding her own misses lol

[@Bob-te3le]

You're right she's leads the wnba in accounting also 😂😢😅

[@cmjd11]

@@nikkinites3176they always forget that!!! 🤔🤔

[@THEENERGYINHALER]

Yeah.. CC got off to a fast start... a LEGENDARY fast start.... (Everyone seems to leave this out.. ) CC is the fastest WNBA player to record 300 career points, 100 rebounds and 100 assists by doing so in her 19th game. (!!!) To me it is just frosting on the cake that she is also the first rookie out of 960 to have a triple double (!!) WOW.. ROTY hands down...

[@ceeaz1633]

She has more turnovers than anyone in the league , she doesn’t deserve it

[@MitchellFamily-x3t]

most the turns over she gets r her teammates not catching her paases

[@THEENERGYINHALER]

@@MitchellFamily-x3t agreed... Now CC has the most points rebounds and assists of any rookie in HISTORY... and there are still 18 games to go....!!!! ROTY is no longer a conversation.. CC wins... now we are talking about MVP

[@user-rh1py4jc5d]

That woman sick they said angel reese😂😂

[@kelvinmhlanga768]

She don’t like it they kicked her out of espn and lost to a black woman now she don’t want to give angel her props she is better overall that catlin sorry

[@jacobluna1731]

@@kelvinmhlanga768at what exactly? Rebounding?

[@randyh255]

​@kelvinmhlanga768 how is shooting 39% from fg as big better then what catlin doing . Angel is straight trash her double double are off her own misses

[@kelvinmhlanga768]

@@jacobluna1731 atleast she doesn’t need 17shots to score 3 of them do the maths and yes she can rebound that’s her strength she is doing what she is good at and catlin she is good player and I think she will improve I like her but atm I don’t think she has the it factor she has the hype that’s it

[@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724]

​@@kelvinmhlanga768 No, there's a legitimate reason Clark was drafted first and Reese wasn't even second. Magic Johnson is considered the greatest point guard ever because he makes the team around him so much better. Caitlin has a similar type of gravity to her game. The whole team is looking make the extra pass now, so she's changed team culture for the better.

[@WhathehadasSole]

Nobody brought up that Caitlin has more blocks than Angel as a guard. Can you imagine Curry having more blocks than Giannis😂

[@joketsu100]

More blocks and a lot more steals

[@franknatti5367]

And wayyyy more turnovers than everyone in the league. Lmao yall delusional. How tf she got 43 more turnovers than the next person. Lmao yall don’t watch the games and it shows

[@CrownMeAsHIM]

@@joketsu100Yea Clark has 30 (1.4) and Angel has 29 (1.5) mind you Clark has played 2 more games than Angel.

[@TheRational1inTheRoom]

Yet Clark is ranked 70 among all WNBA guards in Defensive rating..... There are 80 guards in the WNBA. I can block you 8 times in a game..... but if you still score 30 with a percentage over 50%, I did NOT have a good defensive game.

[@joketsu100]

@CrownMeAsHIM not sure where you're looking but last time I checked the totals cc had 20 blocks to reeses 6. Cc has 57 steals to reeses 27. What the heck are you talking about?

[@samcalven12]

If 13 consecutive double double is so easy ,hasn’t more players rookie or vet done it.

[@323azteca]

Yes, the record is not 27 yrs old like Clarks triple double.

[@JodiTate-ki4um]

Do you watch the sky games ,

[@bettynoel8497]

@@samcalven12 💍😢

[@santiagosanchez602]

@@samcalven12 yes but nobody guards Reese from the parking lot like all the teams guard CC🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Full_Beans]

@@santiagosanchez602Nobody guards Reese past 6 ft out

[@soulcityoriginal4270]

"She shot the ball 17 times how much more do you want her to shoot😂😂😂"

[@alfaromeoboosted]

Triple-doubles are not easy. Only 31 women have ever achieved that in 27 years of the WNBA

[@samcalven12]

How many have had 13 consecutive double doubles

[@MikeC-hk5ec]

@@samcalven12 you must take out the times when nobody blocks her out, when nobody is guarding her, and when her teammates and other teams just let her have the ball, her numbers would drop and half her doubles doubles would be wiped out. If you all want to talk about CC’s turnovers, low shooting percentage from 3 point land as opposed to under the basket. Only fair if you want to talk apples to apples comparison of records and stats. Two points you can never argue (unless you live on Reese’s fantasyland) the fans that CC brought (and it isn’t because of AR) and the game planning of opposing teams against CC. That’s all you need to know to see why CC is the clear winner above Reese in any true reality.

[@danielhackney7806]

@MikeC-hk5ec, It's even MORE impressive to "Triple Double" playing the First Place WNBA New York Liberty. The Liberty don't want to be embarrassed with a ROOKIE scoring a "Triple Double" on them!!!! Revenge on the veterans is a dish best served cold! LOL

[@smoothed5847]

@@MikeC-hk5ec all I read was talk down on angel and blame CC Teammates.

[@JRock151]

Only one has had a triple double.

[@wowcj9516]

I can tell when people didn't watch the games just the Highlights

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

Man in my country only a few games are televised or streamed so the highlights are all I get to see most of the time. Hopefully that'll change.

[@ryanc9797]

Why did the guy seem to insinuate that it's easy for Caitlin Clark to get a triple double because she took 17 shots a game...? How many shots she took has 0 bearing on how many rebounds or assists she got. Maybe they need to bring up how Caitlin Clark leads the league in points scored or assisted on their team...the entire league. Skip also mentions 3 point shooting % without even talking about Angel Reese's inability to hit a layup. Truth is, there is no player guarded the same way Caitlin Clark is guarded right now. Never seen a rookie get face guarded from 94 ft up the court...ever. They're not comparable.

[@roxydejaneiro5640]

I've never seen a rookie settle for 30+ foot shots with 20 seconds on the shot clock before.

[@derrion9041]

Its called a full court press. If you’ve never played, just say that. But someone that can shoot from deep has to be gaurded further out. Thats just smart basketball. They aren’t playing her any different. Angel is the one fighting two or 3 players per possession. She isn’t standing down there wide open like caitlin is when she shoots all those 3s and barely makes them.

[@ryanc9797]

@@derrion9041 I know what a full court press is and it's rare for a team to guard a single player with a full court press on almost every possession let alone a rookie. They are absolutely playing her differently and if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you.

[@TLane-fd5ee]

You are obviously Team CC. CCs extremely high turnover numbers greatly diminish all her stats. Those TO numbers are mind-boggling; even as a rookie. Turnovers=Poor decisions & carelessness with the basketball. No way to get around it. She'll have quite a bit of off-season time to get much better at her game. I expect CC to have a break-out season next year.

[@ryanc9797]

@@TLane-fd5ee I would say it's not all on her. If you see the passes and decisions she tries to make..they're often the right ones but theres little she can do if KM can't catch a pass or if Wheeler fumbles on the break. The team is still getting used to CC. On top of that, how many rookies are getting doubled from 35ft from the basket? Not even Sabrina Ionescu is getting that kind of coverage so TOs are expected right now. Yeah they're high but I expect they will course correct as CC gets more comfortable and her teammates get used to the types of pass she throws.

[@Elchulo230]

Gotta give it to Clark .. Reese is getting her doubles doubles but teams actually set up diff defenses to just to guard Clark .. Clark is definitely the front runner

[@cyber6sapien]

Caitlin is averaging 17, 7 & 6. There are only 2 rookies who have ever done better than that in the history of *the NBA* (not WNBA). Oscar and Magic.

[@deandreray3500]

Look at the turnovers that’s historically bad!

[@The_GOE]

What???

[@hitek9too255]

​@@deandreray3500So is Reese FG% for a big .

[@7damon8ietheredge54]

she's the only player avg 15 5 5, that's impressive

[@Philly2tall]

I think she would be the first wnba player ever with those numbers too Not just rookies

[@andrewbak08]

Skip has aged about a hundred years since Shannon left.

[@Gsynce]

He looks E-ACTLY the same 😐

[@danieltatum4262]

Skip is 72 for a Caucasian he looks good for his age I know ppl who look just like him and their like 50

[@Owensmith-ss3yl]

Your kind usually does 😆

[@Gsynce]

@@Owensmith-ss3yl 😂😂😂

[@andrewbak08]

@@Owensmith-ss3yl if ignorance was a person👆

[@GeorgiaLewis65]

CC also has so many turnovers due to her being covered by 2-3 defenders please put that on Reese and let’s see

[@d.vaughn8990]

Thank you! I don’t understand how people don’t acknowledge this fact!

[@laronfox9875]

A lot of Caitlin Clarks turnovers is her teammates missing her passes to be honest and a lot of Angel Reese's rebounds are from her missed layups.

[@BernardHenryMusic]

Somebody tell Rachel that only 3 players from last year's sky roster are on the team. They essentially have a brand new team and a brand new coach.

[@topnotchdesignss]

actually its 2 with Williams out for the season

[@nikmo7360]

So they improved all but two positions and are not any better.

[@ericstaudt2991]

Reese has no skill. Let her go out and handle the ball and see how she looks lol. She’ll look like a clown 🤡 lol😂

[@BernardHenryMusic]

@@nikmo7360 you base that upon what?

[@barrymckockinner9292]

They pretend they have been following the wnba but they're just like the most of us. We only really started paying attention since Caitlyn Clark came along. Maybe you or others did but no one really cared about the wnbA

[@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408]

Steph curry wasn’t rookie of the year so idk why she brought curry up

[@markgraves2192]

@@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408 Cause they were talking about ts % my guy I can tell you don't pay attention 😭💯

[@danieltatum4262]

Yh bcos they were saying how Clarke is a turnover machine then Rachael compared how steff used to also turn the ball over a lot as a rookie

[@treyleon8112]

Yep she just talking

[@Qkazam]

@@markgraves2192but the whole conversation is about ROTY and her specialty which is shooting 3s is terrible.. while Angel’s specialty is getting boards and she’s leading the entire WNBA.. bringing up steph curry and he wasn’t the ROTY just proves their point

[@oldmennewgames]

​@@Qkazami must assume you Linda blind, cause she in top of most of the stats in, assist, rebounds and points. Also top 20 in most defensive stats.

[@cliffkessler2504]

First rookie in WNBA history to record 350 points 100 rebounds and a 100 assits….Not a full season, but a 1/2 season.. CC is the first rookie to have triple-double. Fastest WNBA player to record a 150 career assists since 1998. Currently leading the WNBA in points scored or assisted on with 713 points. Caitlin.Clark now stands alone as a rookie with the most point assisted double-doubles in WNBA history surpassing all time great basketball superstars Sue Bird.

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

As crazy as it is that CC got a triple double. It's just as crazy that no one else has been able to do it until now...

[@logitech12345678910]

I can't wait for the NFL to start.

[@javelldunn3379]

Me too

[@Rich2rich87]

Same lmao

[@twizzy585ots]

For Keyshawn sake

[@stevenstocker7425]

Fr, I’m sick of watching missed layups and everyone getting “hyped” around it.

[@marcrobinson8471]

Why? To watch the Chiefs pounce?

[@kobegzzz_5853]

Rachel was mad about them talking about Clark 3s😂😂

[@hottrakz]

She did not lie Caitlin Clark fans cant give an excuse for that, but they will try to find one somehow someway and place the blame somewhere

[@fivek_aday7064]

@@hottrakz CC sees more blitzes and double team than any guard in the league. Watch the games.

[@benjaminbrown9459]

​@fivek_aday7064 that's not a excuse all the best players go threw that

[@hottrakz]

@@fivek_aday7064 stop crying you only see that because you only watch in the end games you can't possibly say that and watch other games because you will see that most cards are picked up at least by half court. when will the excuses stop. Make an excuse for that 3 point percentage

[@taggangmember]

​@@benjaminbrown9459 No other player in the league gets pressed 94 ft for most of the game. Stop lying

[@maliqmatthew1009]

There has been one triple-double in the WNBA in the last two years. In the very game that Angel broke this record, two other players had points-rebounds double-doubles, so how challenging is that task? Clark has six double-doubles of her own on the season, but nobody talks about it. Why? Because the standard for her is much higher.

[@Ucolluke808]

Caitlin Clark as a rookie is asked to do way more for her team. She handles the ball way more than Angel Reece hence the turnovers. And sets her teammates up for high percentage shots. Her teammates are starting to catch her passes. Then the rebounds. She does everything. These guys are only talking about the three point shots. Caitlin Clark made me watch women’s basketball. I watched my first women’s basketball game because of Caitlin Clark.

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

All I know is the Olympic committee made the worst business decision ever by not putting both Clark and Reese on the team. PSA, for the people that say Caitlin Clark and Ange have to earn their spot remember Rebecca Lobo made it in 1996, Candace Parker made it in 2008, and Breanna Stewart made it in 2016 all as rookies.

[@patweezy5692]

Right 👍🏿

[@anpc86]

Brain dead move and then the people making excuses like you need all 12 spots to win gold, let's see this 12 player rotation coach "Idiot"

[@aaw265]

They have to earn their stripes.

[@saturnteatree]

Yep both should be going not just CC…

[@ajpal9618]

Have them both on team destroying other competition be Amazing to see

[@RoadGlideST23]

I don't remember Ice Cube rapping about getting a double double.

[@greenenergysolarsolutions872]

Hahaha

[@greeneyez18dn.e.washington90]

🫡🤫🤷🤣😢😭😅😂

[@greenpinky3379]

Messed around and got a triple double. Today was a good day ooowaa

[@DashcamCrashes-es4cb]

42 more turnovers than any other in the league???? CC has to improve overall but for now it's definitely ANGEL REESE 🏀

[@VitaminKey5000]

My thing is who ever got a triple double in street ball. 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@darrellsaunders6089]

When Key said 17 shots and 3 of 12 from 3 notice Rachel quickly put her head down like damn 😂

[@Sofa_king_koo]

Key, ..."she got the ball 17 times..." Everyone knows you wanted almost every pass to come your way, and you felt like you had the ability to take it to the house every time. 😂

[@Havok-xq6nm]

You’re forgetting the other records CC has broken or is leading in: - Most combined points scored or assists with 713 - Fastest to 300 points, 100 Rebounds and 150 assists - Most double-doubles with assists by a rookie - First Rookie with a Triple Double - Fastest player to reach 150 assists And she’s not even done. Place by Stats. CC beats AR by a wide margin in almost every stat. In the one category AR is #1, CC is only 19th. CC beats AR in blocks…blocks?! AR gets more rebounds because of her own misses and CC gets TO’s because her teammates fumble the pass. If she was that horrible, she would’ve be the assist leader. Points: CC 16th, AR 22nd Assists: CC 1st, AR 54th 3 pointers: CC 6th, AR 92nd Rebounds: AR 1st, CC 19th Blocks: CC 16th, AR 42nd Steals: AR 12th, CC 17th Stats don’t lie.

[@deandreray3500]

Just like her meaningless college stats with no chip!

[@natureredux1957]

Stats LIE all day long just as people do.

[@jjsmooth23]

You’re picking and choosing what to value more than the other. You said AR is 1st in rebounds but Caitlin is 19th, but don’t mention that Caitlin is 16 in ppg and Reese is 22. Also mention angel is averaging more steals and a better fg%. Angel Reese also wins in other metrics like per, win shares, net plus rating and etc. Angel has numbers in her advantage as well.

[@brabea23]

Those are not records, just fastest to whatever.

[@Kal_El_08]

You can't argue with these M...ns with facts or numbers.

[@exloaded]

400 double doubles a year, in the WNBA. 400 a year, in 28 years. In 28 years, there have been only 30 plus triple doubles EVER in the WNBA. One is definitely more rare than the other. Nobody watches games for rebounds, thats all im going to say.

[@WadeB-um8bp]

Reese only gets 1.8 assists per game, Clark gets 7.8 assists per, way more complete player Clark is.

[@HOUSEofYAH]

Chicago Sky lost 60% of their scoring from last year to free agency, and they were preseason favorites to finish dead last. So to bring up last years record vs the Fevers last year record is disingenuous

[@jacobwatson3781]

I'm not for sure, if Indy makes playoffs for first time in 7 years, that's a huge jump isn't it? If those double doubles are so important to the team why aren't the Sky winning?

[@Zblaze95]

@@jacobwatson3781sky were projected to be 12th so idk what you’re talking about

[@derrion9041]

@@jacobwatson3781the sky and fever are fighting for the same spot. So one isn’t winning more than the other. Plus, i think the sky have played less games than the fever so far.

[@jacobwatson3781]

​@derrion9041 That's making my point. All those double doubles aren't equating to wins.

[@HOUSEofYAH]

@@jacobwatson3781 neither is CC stats they just lost to the worst team in the league

[@greggee9062]

Skip is like, in the fourth quarter of games, I'm not saying she pulls back, but she starts playing point guard?!??😂😂

[@Rebound703]

Skip has a odd view off basketball.

[@anthonyconley4478]

Keyshawn is always gonna play the middle. It’s safe. It’s comfortable. That’s why he got the job over the rest.

[@kashanti1]

He is kinda right about that though. She is being too passive.

[@mambalevel1017]

@@kashanti1 Shes a rookie... Vet close games out clown!!! Reese running a offense at all, like at all... carter and marina are

[@kashanti1]

@@mambalevel1017 thats an excuse. she's pulling back. I see situations in games that in college she would have taken the shot, and here she is not. thats either her coach or her being affected by all the noise. she is still NOT playing HER game.

[@JuanOrtiz-oy5gb]

You are missing the assists which are points. She contributes more than Reese in the scoring part. Her rebounds, three points made.

[@MrArtist7777]

It's true, NOBODY would know who Angel Reese is without Caitlin Clark. Clark is unquestionably the best player in the WNBA and virtually nobody cares about o'l right-hand-layup Reese.

[@leseanwalston7916]

I've said before,, the ONLY reason they allow Keyshawn to talk ANYTHING outside of NFL topics is specifically to make SKIP seems more "Knowledgeable" by comparison.. 😒🤣🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Gary-bk7wrm]

You are absolutely right. I've been wondering why Keyshawn was allowed to comment on basketball and now I know.

[@testodude]

Following Keyshawn definitely makes anyone look smarter

[@joeydoherty368]

Making Skip look knowledgeable? Quite an accomplishment.

[@MrFruscianteFan]

Can't fault anyone for choosing either of these gals. But keep in mind CC is tasked with running the Fever’s offense, which is a much taller ask than Angel’s role. We were all told how hard it is for guards to transition to the W compared to bigger positions. Also, watch what happens when CC sits. That Fever team completely collapses on offense. Even when she's not racking up assists, she's having a massive impact on spacing and others having an easier time getting theirs.

[@Bornclutch62]

Exactly 😂lol CC literally has to play the whole game for her team to have a chance. They want to discredit CC so bad

[@spydaman376]

She also leads the league in turnovers and is shooting 39% total, not from the 3, total. That’s not good.

[@lennybeason1110]

Angel is tasked with guarding the better players!

[@yikesuhhh]

Same thing happens when AR is off the court. They both have similar usage numbers, score the same amount of points for their teams, and both have 40% of their teams specialties (assists and rebounds). AR has one teammate who can consistently put up double digit points while CC has 3 (and two other all stars). If anything, that Sky offense relies on AR more than the Fever rely on CC. If CC has an off game they can still win but if AR does then the Sky could get blown out.

[@user-yz8hu7lw4n]

@@spydaman376 League average in the wnba is lower dont mislead people. Sue Bird shot 40% from the field her rookie season.

[@Dshwayy]

Context matters, a lot of Clarks turnovers are off her teammates not catching the ball.. and Reese half her rebounds are off her own point blank misses

[@randytaylor4766]

I'm just glad I have this to watch while I'm waiting for NFL to start... Must See TV!!

[@sunnyfish6984]

12 turnovers away from breaking a a wnba record with more than half a season left 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@s0fr3sh810]

Yo come on more than half those turnovers are not on her they are great passes the talent around her looks goofy

[@stephgrant5241]

17-7-6. No rookie has ever averaged that. And none have gotten a triple double. She’s also been the most blitzed and when her teammates lose the ball they count it as her turnover

[@benizio6802]

A quarterback's job is to make elite passes. Even if the pass is on the money, it's an "incomplete" if the receiver drops the ball. The key is that the receivers are getting better at catching.

[@s0fr3sh810]

@@benizio6802 you know we are talking about basketball right?

[@sunnyfish6984]

Ok let’s take away 1/3 half is reach she at 120+ let’s subtract 40 she still leads the wnba in turnovers

[@mercwithayoutube]

Says Clark impacted winning more than anyone else but Reese top 16 in the league in Wins Shares which means she’s impacting winning better than anyone in this class

[@ronelz999]

Reese Impacting winning better? the Fever have a better record than the Sky.

[@CMCut]

She said compared to lastyear

[@upfulsoul826]

Facts 💯

[@loisperez1722]

And talking about surpassing the team’s record from last year….. The Sky only have 2 players from last season. And they aren’t doing much. AND they have a new coach, who is a first time head coach. Sky was predicted to be last place. But because of Angel’s fire, they are in playoff contention.

[@Giganticonion]

@@TurnFromWickednessplus minus is deceptive. The fever have had the toughest schedule in the league to this point. Let’s see how the plus minus looks in the second half when they have the easiest

[@tomray4139]

He notes turnovers, but quick passes to team mates who can't handle the pass are listed as turnovers.

[@nikkinites3176]

That lady is seething they picked Angel Reese. 😂😂😂 now all of a sudden they cant judge the rookie year.

[@dipankarjoshi3828]

Rachel for one gave an honest take that caitlin is roty but she didn't pushback against these 2 ignorants. Cc is leading the whole nba in assits take that

[@louisiana318]

And leading in turnovers also

[@anegril1]

Cc is not leading in Assists she is 3rd which is amazing. She is also leading the league in turnovers. Please don't invent narratives and facts to support your fave. Just for context AR is leading the league in rebounding they are both excelling at what they do well. AR deserves to be mentioned CC deserves to be the favorite to win ROTY

[@Ackalack187]

​​@@louisiana318But comparing these 2, CC has a better assist/turnover ratio...played out talking point when comparing them

[@wisdomenake242]

​@@anegril1 She is 2nd actually

[@carokann4397]

​@@anegril1CC has more blocks than Reese

[@valor7634]

3:02 "She's only shooting 33% from 3" She never gets open 3-point shots, it's always shots damn near at the logo or step back contested 3s.

[@kingvii6206]

That's how it's been her whole career. Lol. Nothing different

[@ecalebw]

That’s not even remotely true. Plus those are bad shots. It’s not like she’s making a great pct. She needs to use her teammates more to get open. She’s missed a lot of uncontested shots too.

[@alatrese2817]

Logo is still 3 points

[@thedragonarmy4700]

That’s her taking them she doesn’t need to

[@Johenz]

So she takes bad shots is what you're saying

[@ronlutton2121]

The fact that she laughed when Keyshawn brought up CC turnovers tells me all I need to know.

[@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408]

Defense is just a non discussion when talking about white players, a player they’re being compared to can be just as good as them offensively but miles better defensively and only the offense matters in the discussion

[@The_GOE]

Facts. Angel Reese also defends and it’s interesting no one wants to include that

[@Cahluvca]

This era likes to gloss over defense

[@jonathanhoward8608]

Doesn’t Caitlin have more blocks than Angel this season? 🤔

[@creativerefinishingunlimit3589]

I think so

[@nikkinites3176]

This!

[@santiagosanchez602]

They are clowns, CC is guarded from the 90 fts🤣🤣🤣

[@charisdiscuss7889]

Just theory not fact 😂 How many times is she guarded from 90ft?

[@george2198]

You are a clown... What are you on..

[@joketsu100]

You must not watch the game. The start guarding her before the ball is even ready to in bound. They are on her like glue til she passes half court, then they often put a double team on her​@@charisdiscuss7889

[@mg19cal]

​@@charisdiscuss7889exactly she's only been guarded from 90 ft maybe twice and that's at the end of a quarter when you know they're trying to give her the shot. They do that to any halfway decent shooter on any team in history

[@hottrakz]

Only a clown would not guard somebody from that far if the objective is to get the ball up the court as fast as possible, just take the L. If you pay attention to other games which most of you Caitlin like fans don't you'll see that most people get picked up early in this league.

[@matthewsolomon3417]

What’s the stat for Reese rebounding her own misses and shoots primarily from within a foot of the basket. That needs to be taken into account when reviewing that stat.

[@chrisfriedl6180]

Skip just made the argument to fire sides lol. Literally said why does she get a board and push it down the court fast and then wait for the offense to set up. Sounds like coaching

[@Ackalack187]

No just proves that he doesn't watch the games. CC does push the ball a lot for easy fast break points, not every single play though.

[@chrisfriedl6180]

@@Ackalack187 I think he meant she should push the ball as in drive the lane or make a shot in transition when the defense can’t double her or press her because they lapsed on a fast break. I have noticed she does not seem as free since entering wnba where in college she just ran the offense

[@Shining-a-Light]

Caitlin Clark leads ALL players in the WNBA for points scored and assisted on. 713 Second is Ionescu at 708 Third is Ogunbuwale at 684 Fourth is A Wilson at 638

[@bettynoel8497]

@@Shining-a-Light those are fake numbers

[@RDTIME808]

Clark's 122 turnovers through Saturday are well ahead of any other player. Perhaps rookie of the year honors should go to a player who doesn't so frequently give the ball to the other team - or at least one who has more made field goals per game than she has committed turnovers.

[@winstonsyme5899]

@@RDTIME808 But, 25% of Reese’s rebounds are from her own missed shots.

[@RDTIME808]

@@winstonsyme5899 rather that than a turnover any day.

[@winstonsyme5899]

@@TurnFromWickedness So 23% of her offensive rebounds are from her own missed shots.

[@yolied2745]

At the end of the day, you can’t dictate to fans who they favor and it is obvious that they favor CC. That is where the excitement is coming from and that is why ticket sales are up and and every time the Fever plays, they have to move to a larger venue.

[@precisiongrindin1848]

Turnovers gonna happen for a rookie who's running an offense. I don't count those as a negative for CC

[@tellmethetruth3393]

you're forgetting Clark's ability to orchestrate the offence

[@tornadoesbigo]

1000 TURNOVERS

[@ImagineMike212]

@tellmethetruth3393 First off it's offense she also has lots of turnovers but that's her teammate's fault right but when she gets asst. It's all Caitlin Christ huh

[@powerinvolved-di3vl2yd6q]

@@ImagineMike212 Its offence depending on which common wealth country. Still, Angel is doing better but Carmelo had a better rookie season than Lebron.

[@zooloco3920]

That's her job as a gaurd though. She's just doing what she's paid to do. That's like saying You're forgetting Angel Reese's ability to grab boards. 😂 That's her role on the team. She's just good at it.

[@GoodLifeBreeze]

Defense wins games. Remember that.

[@GIMMETHELOOTNOW]

CC specialty is passing... & she's basically Leading the league in Assist, but let's sweep that under the rug🤨

[@Phizzo4real]

No, she is not leading the league.

[@joketsu100]

​@Phizzo4real 2 days ago she did lead the league in assists. As of right now she is 2nd in assists in the whole league, not just rookies

[@redii2241]

Wrong Clarks specialty is shooting and she really hasn't been that good at it. But she will get better. Angel is definitely the rookie of the year right now.

[@bigman7570]

​@@joketsu100she has played 2-3 more games than most other players

[@joketsu100]

@@bigman7570 it doesn't matter. Come back to this comment at the end of the season. The girl passes like Steve Nash. She's an elite passer court vision prodigy

CC is already the Goat of WNBA

[@poettreeclimber]

CC has so many weapons and is skillful in so many categories. She's been pretty much singlehandedly raising up her teammates and the league at large. She's unparalelled. She stands alone.

[@jpay63]

Cc team only won 12 games last year its nowhere but up from there .. and they still have most of the same players.

[@tdsportscards]

I estimate by looking at schedule and seeing the Fever started beating good teams are about 18-19 wins... I figure Sky about 15-16 wins, Dream maybe 13-14 wins, and of the last 3 teams maybe Mystics at about 12-13 wins...I still figure Fever and Sky will make playoffs, Fever might have a shot at even the 6th spot ahead of Mercury but they'll need to win 2 more of the 3 and beat them in head to head, that might drop Mercury to 19 wins

[@tdsportscards]

Fever needs a better 3 and a defensive minded 4 in order to get to that top of league group... we'll see if Sides is narrow minded and how Dunn sits back and thinks about the season when it ends..next year could be top 4 if they can get a few pieces...Sky still needs a PG, Cardoso needs better conditioning, and they need more help off of bench

[@MCPrimetime]

The turn overs is because her teammates mishandle the ball on the pass but Clark gets the turnover. But yes, that needs to be cleaned up.

[@EdwardSmith-w6l]

Funny how people who are supposed to know what they are talking about , leave that point out. Almost like they have a motive.

[@elhajjmatthews4060]

No there is a guy on Tik Tok that breaks them all down its a 3 to 1 ratio of her fault. She literally has tp adjust to the game speed

[@derrickjones6442]

Even though the receiver tip ball to the DB, the quarterback gets the interception. Nobody complaining about that stat.

[@1DubJ]

She make bad passes. This isn't college, it's the pros.

[@ecalebw]

She’s not a great ball handler. Most of her turnovers are based on bad passes.

[@Joegoog2321]

CC 15th in points/game (#1 rookies)/19th rebs/game (#3 rookies/#1 guards)/2nd asst/game (#1 rookies)/10th steals/game (#1 rookies)/14th blocks/game (#1 guards/#3 rookies). INSANE

[@misspinkieleedavis1963]

Caitlin Clark is the Rookie of the Year favorite and they know it! They are tiptoeing all around the phenomenal achievements of CC22 like they are scared to be honest!

[@robbieanderson649]

They are just taking their marching orders from their woke mind virus corporate overloads.

[@james7985]

No one is tip toeing around anything. I think people love Caitil so much (which is understandable) that they discount how good Angel Reese is. She’s a monster.

[@squizill]

WNBA commissioner be like: how can we make the league worse... Ask Skippy !!

[@mrfiness]

If u can’t judge them because they’re rookies why are u talking about them lol I see ms nichols is pushing a narrative up there!

[@adammiller8597]

You are really desperate for ratings aren't ya lol

[@michaelcedeno391]

CC: Fastest rookie to reach 350 pts, 150 assts, 100 rebs Shout out to AR, but so far her rival (cc) is doing everything for her squad. No question, she needs to keep improving her game. But she (cc) should be front runner for ROY.

[@lovemycity420]

Reese breaking WNBA records, CC breaking rookie records…..big difference

[@tribehasspoken4038]

Lol

[@SpinnTraxxMusic]

😂 if your name is the ONLY name on a list, it’s a little bigger deal than a name with multiple names on it.

[@S6xT2]

She’s not even breaking rookie records she’s just breaking made up records oh she got three shots and then shoot her foot touched the court 17 times

[@leezyfrmdatraq]

@@S6xT2cry some more

[@Matt-uk8dv]

Who cares lol it’s woman’s basketball you lib

[@MrMol75]

It's Catlin Clark hands down. She runs her whole team's offense. She just beat Taurusi and took down the top team. She was up by 15 on the sky and if not for some terrible coaching by sides she would be 3-0 against Angel. She is still 2-1 against the Sky.

[@bigman7570]

It wasn't terrible coaching it was ANGEL REESE that started dominating

[@franknatti5367]

Still leading league in turnovers. You didn’t mention that part. If yall removed race out of it , you would clearly see Angel has been playing better

[@marquezsmith8889]

So when they were up by 15 the coach gets no recognition, when Reese went to work, it was terrible coaching? 😂

[@1000rogueleader]

@@franknatti5367 The only reason she leads the league in turnovers is because her team mates can't catch a ball or set screens to save their lives.

[@1000rogueleader]

@@marquezsmith8889 It was precisely because of bad coaching that they lost that game. The coach is being acknowledged for the thing she needs to be acknowledged for; her failure.

[@Rya_N33]

They look so scared in what they are saying 😂😂

[@bivdog]

They wanna talk about Clark’s missed 3s but not Angel’s misses and the fact that she is the most blocked player in the W. Not the most blocks. Her shot is blocked more than anyone in the league.

[@valor7634]

2:23 Caitlin is a rookie primary ball handler on a team that went 13-27 last year, turnovers are expected.

[@joketsu100]

She also makes passes that are elite and special. Her team is finally learning how to be ready for those passes. The turnovers will improve as time goes on

[@brabea23]

Is that your excuse when no other rookie has ever had as many turnovers as she had?🤣

[@sergiomedina7960]

What other ropkie guard has been double and triple teamed every time they touched the ball​@@brabea23

[@alxfonso4924]

so why did their point gaurd last year average 5 assist on 2.1 turnovers?

[@ZacatecanoSanPedro]

@@brabea23 you should probably look at all the turnovers her teammates cost Clark on the stat sheet. pretty pathetic drops or complete misses that count against Clark. but i guess everyone can ignore that haha

[@jefferyfennix1114]

CC got one dam tripple double. And if that is a record, WNBA is not that great when Westbrooks average a tripple double. Nichols was still mad at back women cause she lost her job at the peak of her career to one. Angel is just balling without the media help!

[@MetalRob81]

CC is way more important to her team than AR. No disrespect to AR, but the Sky would be fine without her. The Fever would be nothing without CC. Still an amazing race and i wish nothing but success to both of them.

[@googleifyouseekayu]

😂 tell me ur only voting for AR cuz she is black without telling me

[@BryantTruitt-ns8ue]

As rookie no other rookie got a triple double

[@demetriusfarmer8460]

@@MetalRob81 na if angel reese left for any reason they would definitely feel it

[@MetalRob81]

@demetriusfarmer8460 sure, but the effect isnt nearly as much as what CC does for her team. I have nothing bad to say about AR. What she does in the paint is beast mode. I respect the hustle. When she works on her offensive game, she's going to be a 16-18ppg player.

[@robertortizjr.953]

What a bunch of people pleasers, CC IS BY FAR THE ROTY, her game is way above Reese, no comparison

[@toddmchargue1322]

I love how he SAYS deadlocked…. Then proceeded to tear CC down and build Reese up anyway he can.

[@TheGolsongirls]

Sky is not the same team from last year. Reese Cardoso and Carter and the coach are all new. This is not the same team from last year to compare it. 3 starters and new coach. Fever is the same team added Cc. Boston #1 pick and Kelsey #2 pick who was there last year.

[@SleepingAngel690]

So what does it mean if the team is different and the record is currently worse than the old team? And what does it mean when you take the team that ended 10th in the WNBA and bring them up to currently 7th just by adding Caitlin Clark?

[@TheGolsongirls]

@@SleepingAngel690 I can tell this your first year watching basketball. 😂😂 A team with the same team should improve year by year as they grow and learn eachother. A brand new team and coach getting together will have more struggles. A coach who had players from the year before can build off what she implemented the previous year. It’s called building. Sky are staring over. The fever just added CC. And she won 7 games through the first 20. Which mean the they on course for a 14-26 season after going 13-27. Don’t give me the standings. That’s just mean it’s more bad teams this year, that teams that far under .500 are in the playoffs. That’s not a flex 😂😂

[@dipankarjoshi3828]

713 thats the points contribution of caitlin the highest in the wnba. Clear roty

[@dwightkennedy7730]

She has the ball in her hands more than any player in the league and over 40 more turnovers. She's not that good

[@marioslrzn]

@@dwightkennedy7730you just admitted she has the more, wouldn’t that contribute to more turnover. Might be why lebron leads the NBA

[@WalterTylor]

U a clown picking one stat pick her leading the league in turnovers

[@jarodwilson4946]

You can create every little statue want, but her turnovers and her lack of three-point shooting shows that is only one rookie of the year and she's leading the WNBA by 32 offensive rebounds more than anybody else in the league Angel Reese is a beast

[@natureredux1957]

That is not her point contribution, even CC states that.

[@jeremiahk.3399]

Ladies and gentleman you just watched two analysts do the impossible.... Actually admit that Angel Reese is the Rookie of the Year, and its not even close. What Angel is doing is unprecedented in WNBA history, and has a good chance to break the WNBA record for most double doubles in a season... As a rookie. Thats actually insane.

[@dzadigital5613]

the fever started off 0-9 until Karen Clark finally realized that her teammates were better than her. they have been carrying her ever since.

[@Bustawest]

They spent the whole segment talking about Caitlin’s flaws and none of angels flaws… the expectations cc has are astronomical

[@LisaJoB2024]

Y'all mad that's all it is. Get over it! Angel is doing something that Caitlyn isn't doing and making HISTORY! Caitlyn is doing something that others in the league has done when it comes to 3s.

[@natureredux1957]

Well CC fans made that the CASE.

[@zlatantherogue549]

@@LisaJoB2024 yeah sure

[@louisiana318]

​@@LisaJoB2024, 🎯

[@seedking40]

You obviously don't understand. CC is underperforming Angel is on par and over performing. Why would they bring up her flaws when everyone knows that you are not going to make every shot or have high scoring games every night. Some things are just obvious

[@stephgrant5241]

No rookie has ever had a triple double and no rookie has ever averaged 17-7 and 6

[@Darrytheprince]

"a triple double Is easier" obviously he's speaking in relativity to consecutive double doubles

[@waynejackson1199]

How much do you people get paid to say this unpopular rhetoric? Lmao. I want some.

[@jeremypollock1006]

If the triple double were so easy why has nobody in Indiana Fevers 24 years of exsistence ever done it? Has nobody ever shot the ball 17 times?

[@MrVenom973]

Because the team is god awful...?

[@deandreray3500]

She’s a PG who shoots 30 foot 3s turnovers over the ball

[@seedking40]

Nobody said triple double was easy. CC only did it 1 time so far. 12 consistent double doubles is difficult in the WNBA. We know this because it took one of the best women's basketball players ever to make the record in the first place. Reese took it from her while she is a ROOKIE and it's still active. The other reason it's impressive because of the many different teams she has faced with different standards and abilities on defense and she was still able to be consistent despite the switch ups. That's WAY harder than getting one triple double, especially because CC has the advantage of getting the ball first and commanding plays.

[@LisaJoB2024]

That's Indiana, but overall in the league period it has happened, lol!!! I bet she can't get triple-doubles 13 times or more back to back like Angel is getting double-doubles against VETS??

[@hottrakz]

If 13 double doubles was so easy for a rookie in 24 years shouldn't there be more, this is one game we're talking about 13 in a row this is called consistency. 33% from the three isnt Caitlin Clark's claim to fame that logo three everybody wants to see the way it looks that thing doesn't have an effect on winning. You'll need to just accept it , it's not over yet though I don't see Angel Reese stopping no time soon. I would rather have 13 consecutive double doubles than one triple double any day, the team would also.

[@kellypitts8481]

These people wouldn’t even be talking about the wnba if it wasn’t for CC

[@LordxWeeVL]

People didn’t no who she was until she was embarrassed n college championship game by Reese 😂 Jon cena think before u speak

[@The509sfinest]

@@LordxWeeVLshe lead Iowa to 2 straight national titles. Reese couldn’t do that in her wildest dreams .

[@StopBeingDumb]

@@The509sfinest Reese did that and actually WON!! Going for 2 years straight and coming out of both in tears and a LOSER is crazy!

[@rudeboywebb7082]

@@The509sfinestshe lead Iowa to what? Where’s the rings? That’s like bron getting to the finals 10 times. Great feat but faced defeat so it doesn’t really matter honestly 🤷🏿‍♂️ angel has the chip 💪🏿

[@Rebound703]

​​@@LordxWeeVLClark actually beat both LSU and South Carolina in the ncaa tournament. In 2023 she scored 41 points vs Aliyah Boston's South Carolina team eliminating them in the final four And In 2024 she scored 41 points vs Reese's LSU team, eliminating them in the elite-eight.

[@kennethriviere3221]

I definitely believe Angel deserves the Rookie of the year! Her drive, determination and literally her sheer will is infectious ❤

[@trader8413]

Rachel, thanks for adding some much needed perspective to this conversation.

[@SarignCleric]

Rachel brought up a great point. People have called CC the "Steph Curry" of women's basketball. If you look at Steph's early years, he kinda struggled with turnovers as well before he became the champ we know him as today.

[@Ambrizzle33]

He was not as bad as her not even close.

[@tonth1383]

Steph curry comparisons are ridiculous. Competition level was nowhere near the same. Steph curry early years were plagued with ankle injuries.

[@BNAFitnessTV]

Steph struggled early on because of injuries not because of his shooting ability

[@Monica0628]

Some of those turnovers shouldn't be turnovers on her. Even if her teammates touched the ball when Caitlin Clark threw the ball, they called it a turnovers on Caitlin. She is also running the Fever Offensive. They are doubled teaming her before she evening hitting the half court. Also, look at were Reese is shooting compare to Caitlin.

[@danielwalbridge1406]

Right! At that level, if you can touch the ball, then you can catch it! I believe they're getting better at receiving.

[@marvinbattle3559]

They are ask to do different things.1 play point guard and the other plays forward

[@Youahgoofy081]

Yeah they should change the rule😂😂😂

[@joshcummings9750]

REESE JUST GETS HER OWN REBOUNDS AFTER BRICK AFTER BRICK RIGHT UNDER THE BASKET

[@geronimopratt7976]

​@@Youahgoofy081it wouldn't stop there

[@CodyBunker]

Caitlin is 16th in points. Angel is 22. Caitlin is 2nd in assists. Angel isn't on the board. Caitlin has the first triple double by a rookie. 1 of 35 ever in the wnba. Caitlin leads Angel in most stats. Her turnovers are mostly due to her teammates dropping her passes. Angel bricks it 4 times in a row and gets the rebounds and we are somehow impressed by this? Madness

[@alfaromeoboosted]

The league has only seen 35 total Triple Doubles in 27 year

[@ranchroberts5976]

I love the pain in Rachels fave hearing this 😂. Over all its a shame Brink injured herself. She would be in the conversation imo

[@MrROKinROK]

1:42 So one critique of Caitlin Clark's triple-double is that she shot 17 shots against the NY Liberty... en route to 19 points 13 assists & 12 rebounds. Someone else recently took 17 shots against the NY Liberty. That someone wound up with exactly 10 points & 10 rebounds... Oh, and she was 9 assists away from a triple-double. But obviously double-doubles are lot harder than triple-doubles so she should get credit for not taking the easy way out and getting those extra assists.

[@Puyax01]

4:35 is about getting her own brick rebound 😂

[@harrybanana724]

The official CLOWN SHOW😂😂

[@spiderpimp33]

Co-ROTY. This happened 3x’s in the NBA. So it’s not unheard of.

[@deandreray3500]

Caitlin would accept that Angel wouldn’t has to be a winner!

[@ronelz999]

CC has the better stats stop with the co-roty argument.

[@kbjr9423]

@@ronelz999 no it's Angel

[@brabea23]

No. Angel Reese is clearly the ROTY. She is the only player in history with 13 straight doubles-doubles. She did this in a single season within her first 20 games. Caitlin Clark has not accomplished anything close to that yet.

[@valor7634]

Agreed. They're both breaking records and bringing more attention to the WNBA this year than the last 8 years combined. Reward both of them.

[@HguujAswiik-gw6pj]

33% from 3 and 42 more T.O and she shoot the ball more but you people say she should be rookie of the year only in America 😂😂.

[@kjbens]

Are you kidding me? Caitlin‘s turnovers are from her teammates missing the passes, while Angel’s double doubles are from missing her own attempted shots and then rebounding them herself. Come on!

[@Josh-vl4bj]

I’m from Australia and my town loves Caitlin Clark.

[@derminvillatoro6040]

Caitlin Clark reached 350 points and 150 assists in her 22nd career game. That's the fastest mark by any player to start a season in WNBA history, regardless of years in the league. All while trying to keep her teammates involved as well. Clark is rookie of the year by far! Also while being guarded fiercely by all defenders every night.

[@bettynoel8497]

No she’s not 💍😢

[@ScottyBerkowitz]

Don’t forget the 100 plus rebounds

[@kashanti1]

Shed have a lot more assists if her teammates would stop dropping the dime passes she hands to them.

[@heiress1185]

Everyone is guarded fiercely in the league every night, lol. 😂

[@heiress1185]

@@kashanti1false narrative and more victim excuses. It’s been proven that her passes are reckless and not the fault of her team.

[@Itzdakiing242]

How did I know Rachel would pick CC 😂

[@watchmesquatch]

Because she isn't biased based on skin color. 👌

[@dipankarjoshi3828]

How did I know key whill choose angel

[@deandreray3500]

@@watchmesquatchfacts CC’s so popular who makes up 95% of the US population 😂😂😂

[@slopoke22]

Ltfol!!!!!!!

[@mith2946]

​@deandreray3500 Black person supports a black athlete... You are so strong. you're a hero. A white person supports a white athlete... You are a racist POS.