Unearth the Secrets to Folding a Second Best Hand!

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CrushlivePoker

CrushlivePoker

Күн бұрын

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@kineahora8736
@kineahora8736 Жыл бұрын
I like $60 on the flop. J high boards are kinda dynamic, and JT means there are straight draws. Turn, I like 2/3 pot sizing as well… I like just calling and see how he acts on river…
@Nikkithedog-t6b
@Nikkithedog-t6b Жыл бұрын
I often check raise pair nut nut draw and if you call 300 you have to have a plan ahead for the brick river. Many decent players will shove the same semi bluff river so this seems a bit off to me.
@mattpitstick6884
@mattpitstick6884 Жыл бұрын
Decent players is the key term here. 80% of people playing 2/5 are terrible
@frederickmccabe5675
@frederickmccabe5675 Жыл бұрын
I like this guy. Good synthesis of new school.and old school live skills.
@karlinchina
@karlinchina Жыл бұрын
He actually has clear logic on his poker decisions.
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
Yeah solid caller.
@milesferran5610
@milesferran5610 Жыл бұрын
Jo
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Жыл бұрын
With the price of everything going up wonder what casinos do? Up the rake? That's really the only thing or make it higher stakes. Mine got rid 0f 1-2 only 1-3
@lloydchristmas1086
@lloydchristmas1086 Жыл бұрын
Oceans 11?
@RealAnthonyJones
@RealAnthonyJones Жыл бұрын
Since it was a straddled call pf I wonder if he would call with 10h9h Qh10h or Ah10h and then play it that way going crazy betting on the heart draw.
@bookedroomer
@bookedroomer Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't know how people just see a brick card and just think oh well changes nothing gotta call. clearly the actions changes things unless you think villains entire range is betting on brick flop which isn't true.
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
Most of the time if a player is on a stone bluff on the turn they are 100% firing a blank river. I know i do.
@DescartesRenegade
@DescartesRenegade Жыл бұрын
Turn brings in a lot of semi-bluffs. If that's what the hero puts villian on then river is also a call. That's what people mean when the river bricks out, it changes nothing and should be a call. Granted, this line has to be attributable to the villian. If villian has it in him, then it's a call.
@ZeraLord
@ZeraLord Жыл бұрын
It's not that nothing changes. It's that you are either way ahead or way behind on the turn. This doesn't apply to this result since V had the win, but lets say V did this with let's say, AQh. By not shoving turn, you are allowing every draw to get there and when it isn't a brick, you are either going to get value owned and when it is a brick, they aren't going to put anymore money in the pot. I get what Bart is always against, the idea that you are committed on river when you call turn which I agree with to an extent (I can''t speak for everywhere, but I think Rivers in Chicago people bluff a lot more than I think Bart would believe). But at the same time, there are many players that will fire a turn and fire a third bullet there. Especially when he is setting himself up for a less than pot size shove on river. I think he should have shoved turn personally, but only because the board was decently wet and I want to get all the chips in when my opponent is bluffing.
@Apocalypse_Promotions
@Apocalypse_Promotions Жыл бұрын
Happy Easter to you and your family, Bart.
@jamesjones2675
@jamesjones2675 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 Жыл бұрын
While you do explain it, just doesn't make a lot of sense if you are going to fold to a jam on the river to bet turn. It does seem weird to fold top two here on the turn but I don't see a way around it if you are folding to river jam. First you only have 4 outs in your mind now and you then to your point you have to figure out if calling the turn is strong enough to reduce his jam frequency on the river and everything here does just scream river jam is coming, like you said stacks aren't deep enough for him to bet say half pot then you go over the top with a semi bluff, actually if stacks are deeper he probably just bets 1/3 pot to get you to make a crying call, fulling committed to calling if you go over the top.
@StreetSoulLover
@StreetSoulLover Жыл бұрын
Villain can have pair + muliple draws on turn that can raise, that brick river - but those hands natually check when they brick river because they have a reasonable amount of showdown. for example QhJh/QhTh/AhJh/AhTh etc Seems fair to call turn and fold river.
@switters8679
@switters8679 Жыл бұрын
@@StreetSoulLover You are combining two aspects of poker that are diametrically opposed. 'Has enough showdown value' applies to the turn as well. To use your own vernacular and logic, the same hands you are saying naturally check the river bc of showdown value, don't bluff the turn. I don't agree with literally any of your analysis, but just dropped by to point out that your own argument defeats itself, which is why you are most likely a losing player AND don't know it.
@StreetSoulLover
@StreetSoulLover Жыл бұрын
@@switters8679 Let me start by saying, I completely agree - but you are missing the point. Humans are illogical. Villain decides he's going to bluff turn with a big draw and a pair - why? Because he thinks he can "Get hero to fold" But Hero calls - "F**k, he called, we have a Jack, so we can still win if Hero has a queen, lets check and hopefully win" Or "Yes! I have 2 pair, this guy can't have me beat - Shoot, he called...maybe he's got Q9 or AQ, gonna check this back with my 2 pair just in case"
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown Жыл бұрын
There's only 145 in the pot, AQ, KK, JJ, and even TT is 3! at a significant %. Hero just hit top 2 and over half the deck is dynamic cards. Not betting is a criminally bad leak. There's so much to get value from. It's a better argument not to call the raise than not to bet, but I still don't think it's good enough to fold to a rando. There's plenty of people who would semi bluff x/r hands like QJ, KQ, AhJh, AhTh, etc, and give up. I even think there's a decent amount of people who would x/r KT and only be thinking they binked a K on the turn.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown Жыл бұрын
@@StreetSoulLover wish I had read your comment before I wrote damn near the same thing.
@worthplayingfor2197
@worthplayingfor2197 Жыл бұрын
folding here is not easy at all
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
Ok I’m on the river but haven’t heard the reveal. If the opponent isn’t a nit I’m basically snap calling this river.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Жыл бұрын
Yea but if you fold that what are you ever calling with.
@dan9222scandiguy
@dan9222scandiguy 10 ай бұрын
K 10 off is referred to as "second best".
@Zwolf36
@Zwolf36 Жыл бұрын
Q9
@420villain
@420villain Жыл бұрын
I think his logic with 88 was pretty bad too
@joshsheppard21
@joshsheppard21 Жыл бұрын
Bad example by me but basically if I’m betting that king as a bluff I’m betting the same size on that board type
@dkathleenliuliu8643
@dkathleenliuliu8643 Жыл бұрын
9Q
@andrewhawes
@andrewhawes Жыл бұрын
10’s? If he doesn’t show it you don’t believe it.
@robert2375
@robert2375 Жыл бұрын
seems like bullshit that he had 1010's
@SerErryk
@SerErryk Жыл бұрын
You gotta be pretty naive to believe a poker player.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
Why care about what V had? H made right decision is what matters only.
@lloydchristmas1086
@lloydchristmas1086 Жыл бұрын
​@@SerErryk And you know this how?
@jamesjones2675
@jamesjones2675 Жыл бұрын
Villain had 10X hearts , missed and saved with a push
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
A player who just calls with TT pre not only has no river bluffs he doesn’t have turn semi bluffs either. His raises are basically always top of range.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
It was fold on turn. Unless you read him bluffing/over valuing his hand - fold and never look back. 4 outs (8% equity) does not justify turn call.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Жыл бұрын
Then when are you ever calling a turn raise? If top 2 isn't it. People would bluff you all the time.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
@@mrhumble2937 I said above when I'm calling turn raise (read it more carefully). . Certainly, I could be bluffed. Not all time, as a you suggested. . Q: do you approve river fold?
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
​@@mrhumble2937 This turn raise is *not the bluff*. It's only question what kind of value bet it is. Knowing V profile would help answering this one and making the final decision. BTW, one cannot sit all day thinking what to do when he's next to act.
@martinlopez4929
@martinlopez4929 Жыл бұрын
Bart, caught your "let's go Brandon" intro in another video. Curious to see how consistent you are; I checked your website. No disclaimer that you don't want Democrat Party Members as subscribers. Hmmm. Just like I don't want politics in my sports shows (looking at you Dan Le Baturd), I don't want politics in my poker content.
@IAMJERM
@IAMJERM Жыл бұрын
why the fuck would he not want dems as subs LMAO wtf are u saying
@moist5147
@moist5147 Жыл бұрын
he said 3 words and this guy is pissed lmao
@SerErryk
@SerErryk Жыл бұрын
FJB.
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 Жыл бұрын
So DEEPLY sorry for your annoyance. 😭
@420villain
@420villain Жыл бұрын
The callers name was Brandon, so what
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