UNFORGIVEN 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW

Review of Clint Eastwood's 1992 masterpiece 'Unoforgiven' on 4K UHD home video disc. I saw this in 1992 at the Odeon Mezzanine in Leicester Square which is not the best place to see a film but was the only option by the time I had time to see it. The 35mm print that evening was a beauty and this 4K takes me back to that great night. I have had UNFORGIVEN on Blu-ray for many years but something was lacking in that release and I had never enjoyed this film so much as I did at the cinema in 1992. That has all now changed as the film on 4K is a revelation and transports you back to 1992 and that memorable cinema screening.
Image aspect ratio is 2.40:1 approximately and sound is now DTS-HD 5.1.

[@billg3356]

Unforgiven is in my Top Ten of All Time. It's one of only a handful of films that I remember remaining in my seat afterwards. Not because I wanted to read the credits, but because I needed to let the film resonate. I think it's Clint Eastwood's crowning achievement.

[@moviecollector5920]

I stay to the end of all film credits Bill. Only Alien 3 can I remember storming out as soon as that awful end scene concluded but that was an exceptionally bad cinema visit for me. John.

[@billg3356]

@@moviecollector5920 Oh, I liked the little shout-out to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood as well, John. I think it might be Tarantino's best film. I don't know if he'll be able to top it with The Critic.

[@paulallenMacca]

Thanks for sharing your Review of Unforgiven I love Clint Eastwood’s movies.

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Paul. I think Mr. Eastwood was the best film maker in the world for many years and this is the one that kick started that period at the top. Wonderful to see it again as it looked back in 1992. John.

[@carlphipps9754]

I worked at a multiplex in Solihull when this was out, it was one of those films where I never complained if punters stayed to the end because of the Lennie Niehaus soundtrack and those final guitar notes. Outstanding and deserved all the accolades it received. Keep up the good work providing content, please!

[@moviecollector5920]

You'd have loved me then Carl because I always stay to the very last credit of every film... apart from Alien 3 when I got up and left in a strop as soon as that awful end scene concluded! John.

[@gilbertrios5283]

Unforgiven is a special film, I think I experienced every emotion watching it and I truly believe it's Clint's best!

[@moviecollector5920]

He's done a lot of great movies. Possibly more than any other film maker still working today. John.

[@gilbertrios5283]

@@moviecollector5920 He certainly has come a long ways from the days of Rowdy Yates on Rawhide!

[@scottw6046]

This is the only film I've triple dipped on the purchase. DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K. One of my all time favorites.

[@moviecollector5920]

You mean you don't have the LaserDisc?!? John.

[@CoinOpTV]

Unforgiven is pretty great -- wish Mystic River would get a 4K release!

[@moviecollector5920]

Mystic River is another great film. I always find it a little bit of a difficult watch though. Heartbreaking might be the best description. John.

[@09hunterboy8]

A Fabulous film, just rewatched on the 4k disc for the first time In 30 Years. Wonderful!!

[@moviecollector5920]

One of the best Westerns ever made. Some say that they think it's the best of all time. John.

[@cheekster777]

Thank you John and Happy Easter my friend.

[@moviecollector5920]

A happy Easter to you too Cheekster. John.

[@5cuba5teve]

I always look forward to your videos! As a guy who grew up watching and loving cinema, your passion for film truly shines. Please keep the videos coming, and I look forward to the next one. Cheers.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Steven. I'm not feeling that great at the moment but I hope to get back into the home cinema this evening and maybe that will help to get me out of this completely knackered state! John.

[@Celestialrob]

John, great to see you get round to this masterpiece. I've seen over 17,600 movies and only 57 scored a perfect 10. This is one of them. Agree with everything you said. No slip cover for me. We are going to drive up to Canada in June..... will look for HMVs. Love Super 8. I have Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but we have not watched it yet.

[@moviecollector5920]

Morning Rob. I was surprised how much difference it made to watch Unforgiven ten feet wide with the superior image quality provided by this 4K. It really did take me back. There is nothing that could be improved with this film now... other than a 50 foot wide screen I suppose. Good luck with your Canadian sojourn in June. If you know the towns and cities you'll be passing through it might be worth looking up if there are Toys-R-Us stores there. John.

[@columcreaven8860]

I would love to see your list of perfect 10 films.

[@Celestialrob]

@@columcreaven8860 Hi there. Your wish is my command. These are the films I love and think have real creative merit. 12 Angry Men 2001 : A Space Odyssey 39 Steps, The Amadeus Apocalypse Now Asphalt Jungle, The Badlands Battleship Potemkin Before Sunrise Brief Encounter Casablanca Chinatown Citizen Kane Cries And Whispers Die Hard Distant Voices, Still Lives Doctor Strangelove... Double Indemnity Fail Safe Field Of Dreams Goodfellas Grande Illusion, The Harlan County, USA Hunt, The Hustler, The In The Mood For Love In The Name Of The Father Into The Wild It's A Wonderful Life Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai De Commerce, Bxls Late Spring Lawrence Of Arabia Leave Her to Heaven Maltese Falcon, The Man Escaped, A Network Night Of the Hunter, The North By Northwest Ordet Passion Of Joan Of Arc, The Psycho Se7en Shawshank Redemption, The Shining, The Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs Stalker Straight Story, The Sunset Boulevard Taxi Driver Tokyo Story Umberto D. Unforgiven Vertigo Voyage In Italy Wall-E Wild Strawberries Winter Light

[@moviecollector5920]

@@columcreaven8860 I don't think a perfect film exists Colum. I'd struggle to create a ten favourites and if I did some of them would probably not be what many consider to be among the best films ever made. John.

[@tjdw5251]

It's funny, Unforgiven was one of the very first 4ks that I bought 4 years ago when I started. And I still havent gotten around to giving it a go, it was a blind buy, I have still not actually seen the film at all. 😂 After this I may get it out and finally give it a go, I had bought it when I was in a big Westerns mood and I havent really been all that interested in Western since or for a while so maybe I should get it on and see if I can't bring that back a little bit. Also funny is that I bought the Super 8 4k because of that video that got removed. I did end up getting that Creepshow blu-ray set by the way. I rewatched the first two Creepshow films which I thought were ok, it's the format really that is the king. It's an idea and a film that is greater than the sum of its parts. Like the individual stories are good and fun but not like incredible but because you get a nice selection of them it actually works out quite well. The second film is still my favourite over the first film. I also decided finally to brave the much maligned and dreaded Creepshow 3 and found it to quite simply be one of the worst films ever made, it quite comfortably sits in my bottom 20 films I have ever watched, so avoid or keep avoiding that one, it isnt worth one second. But I started the series after this and what a great selection of horror and genre actors and some cool and fun little stores. The first episode with Tobin Bell is a highlight for me as I am a huge Saw franchise fan, so seeing him was awesome. Easily my favourite episode though was the Season 2 premiere episode, that one is actually truly great and the first part is one of my favourites and best horror shorts or segments that I have ever seen. I have actually watched that episode 3 times, as I have shown that episode to a few friends and people. I have had to stop just before that final episode of Season 2 as I need to track down and watch Horror Express before I continue on and watch that episode and then continue the series. But yh, thanks for those recommendations and I am thoroughly enjoying the Creepshow Series.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think you'll find that you don't have to be in a Western mood to thoroughly enjoy Unforgiven TJ. You'll either love it or you won't irrespective of the genre. As for the Creepshow series, absolutely bloody brilliant. I think they must have had to have slimmed the budget a little for the fourth series but there are still some very good and some fun episodes in there along with possibly a few more ordinary stories. It's a good day for Unforgiven today though as it is a sort of resurrection story as the old gunslinger goes back to his old ways. John.

[@RoyMurphy1]

Great work John..... Thanks for sharing 👍

[@moviecollector5920]

You're welcome Roy and thank you. Have a happy Easter. John.

[@nizamaziz18]

Thanks John for the review. Love and enjoy your videos very much! Keep it coming

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Nizam. John.

[@ColonelSternlove]

A masterpiece. Simple. The last 15 min of this film are arguably the best last 15 min of any film ever made. William Munny, out of Missouri. It’s funny, heartwarming, sad, menacing and calm. One of the best films ever made. I’m not into westerns, but I could watch this repeatedly. “I've killed women and children. I've killed everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you done to Ned…” And the transfer is wonderful.

[@moviecollector5920]

You should have done this review. Next time, I'll work the camera and you sit in front of it! You've just written a great summary there. John.

[@ColonelSternlove]

@@moviecollector5920 Hahaha - thank you, John! But I’d much prefer to comment on your wonderful content. Appreciate it.

[@Mmarkpriest01]

Thanks again John, great review and you always inspire me to rewatch the films you're reviewing and in many cases I expand my collection from your recommendations! Do keep up the great work.. Best regards Mark

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Mark. I hope I'm not costing you too much but if I watch a 4K that I'm not particularly impressed with I usually don't bother reviewing it. I tend to only cover those I think are special in some way. John.

[@kallehakkanen2189]

Thank you for another great review! Just thinking about the emotional atmosphere in this movie gives me the chills. Beautiful, brutal realism that strips the genre of its clichés. A great disc of a masterpiece - I’m glad to have this 4k disc in my collection.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think it set a new/revised standard from which all Westerns subsequently have had to live up to. A couple of later westerns nailed it for me and they were Wyatt Earp and Open Range. John.

[@liammartin8606]

A true classic and an excellent review. Always refreshing to hear an honest take on some of the best films that are available on 4K. Keep up the good work John. Happy Easter.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Liam. You make sure you have a happy Easter too. John.

[@Juanjo-oi2or]

Great video, John, and probably the highest peak of Eastwood as a genius of a director. Love the 4K release of this pure gem, not only in the western genre, all kind of genres. Warm greetings from Canary Islands.

[@moviecollector5920]

I love so many of Clint Eastwood's films but this one is up there and if it's not in the top spot it's not too far off. So many great movies from one film maker. John.

[@bingdong8571]

Now that's a movie for the collection!

[@moviecollector5920]

That says it all. John.

[@davemillage6129]

Hi John! Happy Easter ! Add me to the long list I really hold this one up in high regard as well. It looks great on my tele as well in 4k and I remember seeing it a few times in the cinema as well. The film is like a beautiful tree with so many branches and leaves lolololol subscribers pointing these out has me ready for another viewing... I'll add a branch for the young man learning about taking life. And the beautiful Alberta scenery and the cinematography (inside to outside shots and visa versa) just a masterpiece... thanks again John for a great review.. and just a note on OUTIH.. it's another example like you point out in your Get Carter review of taking you into an era and planting you there giving us that time travel/location travel experience... it was a funny film but creepy as well walking around the neighborhood where you know some terrible happenings are going to take place and to a real/young and beautiful actress... Have a great evening over there and cheers D in BC!

[@moviecollector5920]

Good comment there Dave, thank you. I've been through Once Upon A Time In Hollywood twice now and I do very much like it. That's a first for a Tarantino film for me but I do like Pulp Fiction now even if I couldn't stand it back in 1994 or whenever it was first released. John.

[@AA-ws3vd]

This film is in it's own class. Very few like it these days.

[@moviecollector5920]

Very few like it ever perhaps. John.

[@giggsy42]

Love this film so much, one of the greatest films of all time. Great review!

[@moviecollector5920]

I think quite a few of us will agree with you there Zoso. John.

[@354Entertainment]

The best neo western ever made!

[@moviecollector5920]

It certainly set the new Western standard. John.

[@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark]

this film is a masterpiece. I remember it looking pretty good. I should revisit it again... never need a good reason to though.

[@moviecollector5920]

The Blu-ray made me feel that I'd over rated the film in the cinema but this 4K puts it back on top. John.

[@jonnywyattgreengreen3301]

Hi John Great review of a western classic. I remember seeing at my local cinema in 1992 .one of my favourite westerns .In the early 90s The western was a major thing for movies again .Danses with wolves and two films about wyatt Earp . I will have to get this on 4k . I would love to see Wyatt Earp on 4k at same point. All the best .

[@moviecollector5920]

I think Wyatt Earp is one of the best Westerns ever made Jonny. Open Range is another. I like Tombstone but it's not exactly of the accurate wild west variety of the others including Unforgiven. Dances With Wolves should surely be a top candidate for the 4K treatment. It seems odd that it hasn't been done yet, or maybe it has and I've completely missed it. John.

[@gbgary]

agree on all three Costner films. Wyatt Earp and Dances With Wolves!!! 🤞🏻 hopefully the wait won't be too much longer.

[@jonnywyattgreengreen3301]

Hi John I am looking foward seeing Kevin Costner new western in few mouths time . Horizon America Saga film . One of my best days of my life in 1996 when l visited Tombstone and seeing the real ok corral. Walking down the streets of Tombstone and feeling real sense of history.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@jonnywyattgreengreen3301 Sadly I've never been to Tombstone Jonny. One day though. I didn't know Mr. Costner had made a new western. Every one he's done so far has been terrific so I hope the trend continues. John.

[@morteningemann7238]

I agree, a very good movie. I got so inspireret seeing your video, that I ordered a 4k disc for myself, to replace the blu ray I already own. I also used the opportunity and ordered 'Reservoir Dogs' on 4k disc as well, to replace the DVD that I have in my collection now - and to save on postage 😉. I find that I am buying more and more 4k movies, it is like this format has reignited my movie collection gene - I really enjoy rewatching these classics in this lovely format. I look forward to watch my 75" TV flex it's 4k muscles with 'Unforgiven' 😀

[@moviecollector5920]

I hope you enjoy this fabulous 4K as much as my wife and I just did Morten. The Blu-ray somehow didn't do this great film justice but my full admiration for it has just been restored. It's like it's 1992 all over again right now. John.

[@ChaseCapital2826]

Thanks John for your reply, my love for cinema began when I was young, watching Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger in London, I’m 54 now, I then I saw Star Wars 1977. My Bedroom will be projector, my second attempt, I got a bit frustrated with black spots on the screen so dismantled it, but miss it too much, l learnt a lot since then.. might see you at Fopp or IMAX someday if I can get my partner to go, she always falls asleep watching movies lol, thank you John…

[@moviecollector5920]

The best thing for a screen is a painted white wall with brilliant white matt emulsion. Frame it with black velvet and if possible work out a way to alter that framing/masking so that it can envelop the projected image. If the screen ever looks a bit tired you then just re-paint it. Projection is cinema so you're doing the right thing. Television is too restrictive as you're totally governed by the size of the box but a video projector gives you options. I need to get up to the BFI IMAX to see that DUNE TWO blow-up print. Other things have got in the way over the past few weeks. John.

[@SuperDavidstevenson]

Great review as always. I've also got the unforgiven 4k but the steelbook. The picture quality is awesome.

[@moviecollector5920]

It does capture the beauty of the 35mm print I saw in 1992 David. A great film that I'm very pleased to now be able to enjoy just as I did all those years ago. John.

[@neatodd]

I like Eastwood's movies but I've missed this one. Now I want to watch it.

[@moviecollector5920]

It just might be his best Soton. I need to re-watch Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino again now. Well, it's a good excuse anyway. John.

[@Art-is-craft]

Do not want to over hype it but I feel it was his best directed film. It is one of the best movies of the 1990s and could be argued as the best.

[@moviecollector5920]

KZbin is telling my I haven't responded to you Soton but I know I have so in case I forgot to say it, have a happy Easter. John.

[@neatodd]

And a Happy Easter to you John. Flags of our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima are favourites of mine - an interesting look from either side of a war.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@Art-is-craft I think that's my opinion of it too David.

[@powerinnumbers6159]

When you see Unforgiven on 4K you’ll never forget how good it is

[@moviecollector5920]

I think that's true. It was great at the Odeon Mezzanine in 1992 but never as good again until I finally purchased and watched this 4K disc. John.

[@garyharper2943]

Nice to have you back, great movie excellent 4K, wish Open Range would get a 4K! Also love Gran Torino. The list of great Eastwood movies is large. We deserve more, oh yeah, deserves got nothing to do with it!

[@moviecollector5920]

Great comment there Gary. Gave me a good chuckle. John.

[@garyharper2943]

@@moviecollector5920I owe you one!

[@fp30e]

Hi John, an excellent review of 'Unforgiven'. Your reviews are always very good and I look forward to them. I don't have to like the film your reviewing, but I do appreciate your technical appraisals which are always on the mark. I thought 'Unforgiven' was tedious and very slow. Then you mentioned 'Million Dollar Baby', Strewth! For me that has to be one of the worst films I have ever seen. But then you mentioned 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood', wow what a fantastic movie. I once saw Quentin do a Q&A on the stage of the OLS. He's a fun guy. I now go at least once a week to my local Odeon, and watch many old movies on my home cinema, so I know exactly what you mean when talk about your beautiful home cimea. My screen is only 7ft. Take care.

[@moviecollector5920]

Morning Fred. I loved your recent upload of the Preston Odeon. I always like it when a Spoolbox thumbnail appears on my smart TV KZbin feed as you captured a bygone era of a time I loved that fuelled my already enormous interest in film. I need to watch Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino again because I'd become convinced they were even better than Unforgiven but having just enjoyed Unforgiven as much as I did at the Mezzanine Odeon in 1992, now I'm not so sure. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it but if we all liked the same films then we'd have nothing to discuss and life wouldn't be so interesting. Good to know you're getting out to the movies regularly. I need to get back to doing that myself. I miss the glory days and living in the West End with The Empire and all the other great cinemas virtually on my doorstep. John.

[@fedenovo1]

Thanks John. Classic.

[@moviecollector5920]

You're welcome Federico and thank you. John.

[@Private-Hudson]

A truly Classic film and a great review as always John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Private Hudson as always. John.

[@pieterbalk-ht7kq]

Lovely video, John and Happy Easter to you and the Mrs. Usually your videos cost me money, but as I decided to invest in a new 4K 77” OLED and the Magnetar 900 player I stick to my recently purchased blu rays of both Pale Rider and this The Unforgiven. I missed out on both back in the 80’s in the cinema but might watch them this Easter weekend and see how the Magnerar upscales them. With my renewed interest in Clint’s Westerns after watching the No Name trilogy from 4K Kult on 4K I am sure I’ll have a blast. One Night in Soho I bought on your recommendation here but it’s on the same “still to watch pile” as Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I doubt it will blow me away both story and quality wise as Inglorious Basterds did. Let’s hope the amazing Hateful Eight will be on 4K soon. Meanwhile I did pre order Once Upon A Time In The West on 4K and that controversial AlienS 4K coming late April. I can’t wait to judge this a.i. transfer myself and ofcourse hear your expert opinion on that one. Have a great weekend. What will you watch coming days?

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Pieter. I actually went off Unforgiven a little due to the Blu-ray not really doing the film full justice so you may find the same. I enjoyed it of course but it wasn't the same impact as the 35mm print I saw back in 1992. This 4K is though. I think a general release print was used for the Blu-ray and the 4K has gone back to the negative and that makes quite a difference. I don't know what we'll be watching in the coming days. I'm a little preoccupied with other things at the moment and that's taken my mind off films and videos. I'll get back on the horse soon though. Until then, have a happy Easter. John.

[@theMaster...]

I just bought Unforgiven on 4K yesterday, alongside Interstellar and The Thing...

[@moviecollector5920]

Three of the greatest films ever made. John.

[@popey129]

Great insights on this film.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Popey. John.

[@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748]

i believe it was at the Empire Leicester Square in THX as the warner west end was still being re-built 4:33 split lens diopter dvd , may spin the laserdisc in Dolby Stereo , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

[@moviecollector5920]

It would have been even more impressive at The Empire Andy. Might sound even better in your home cinema though. John.

[@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748]

@@moviecollector5920 £6.50 ? well worth it for Empire 1 and lucasfilm ltd THX sound system the laser show

[@MadMartysMovieReviews-gv6hk]

Evening John, another excellent review. Unforgiven is my favourite Clint film and this 4k edition is a fitting tribute to it,an all time classic 😊

[@moviecollector5920]

A near perfect film. Actually, now that I think about it, is there a single imperfection anywhere. Strewth, what a great film. John.

[@mirvmn2]

Great review John :) Unforgiven is one of my all time favorite western films along with other classics like Silverado and Tombstone. This film shows what a great director Clint Eastwood really is and his performance is outstanding. Unforgiven won 4 well deserved Oscars in 1993.

[@moviecollector5920]

One of my favourite Westerns too but I think I'd put Wyatt Earp and Open Range up there with it at the top. John.

[@DavidMander-rs4uk]

I have the poster framed on the back of my living room door. Amazing film by Clint.

[@moviecollector5920]

Now that sounds rather special David. John.

[@MercuryCircuit]

Great review John. I got this a while back along with the original Evil dead. I've watched Evil Dead, but not got to Unforgiven yet. Will have to watch it over the weekend. Great news about HMV too :)

[@moviecollector5920]

Funnily enough, I have never managed to see The Evil Dead all the way through. I expect I'd enjoy it nowadays but when it was first released I simply couldn't get through it. I hope you enjoy Unforgiven as much as I did. Have a great time and have a happy Easter. John.

[@gbgary]

one of my all-time favs! still waiting for my favorite Eastwood western to be released in 4k...The Outlaw Josey Wales. 🤞🏻

[@moviecollector5920]

I can barely remember Josey Wales which is unusual for me. Normally I remember scripts from films but not that one. You've made me think that I should purchase that one on Blu-ray. John.

[@gbgary]

@@moviecollector5920 get a used copy (lol) as supposedly Clint has signed off on 4ks of both Josey Wales and Pale Rider.

[@user-bb4on2sm3m]

Brilliant review as always John, great to see HMV opening up overseas. Nothing is yet on the horizon for Germany as Mediamarket and Saturn own the market on media purchases over here on the high street. They have a great selection of DVDs and Blurays but very little in the 4K area. Time to pay a visit to Belgium then .👌

[@moviecollector5920]

If the vinyl revival continues Tony I think there are possibilities for HMV to expand into all viable markets. And Germany is certainly one of the top movie markets in the western world. It may only be third behind the USA and the UK. John.

[@jim586]

Hi John. To my shame, I’ve never seen The Unforgiven. My partner adores a bit of Clint so I will give this a go. Cheers

[@moviecollector5920]

I hope you enjoy it as much as we do Jim. A few people don't fully appreciate the slow build up and nor do they like the violent aspect but these are both vital ingredients. John.

[@Travel_n_TourFan]

Really enjoyed that video, John. Please do make a review video for once upon a time in Hollywood. Love that movie despite never being a Tarantino fan before that release.

[@moviecollector5920]

I'm going through Once Upon A Time In Hollywood a second time but have been absent for almost a week so haven't been able to do anything. I do hope to do some sort of review video so stand by and if all goes well I'll get the time to put record something and put it together. John.

[@andylikesstuffchannel]

I love Once up a time in Hollywood one of his best. Great Video John

[@moviecollector5920]

I haven't seen many of Tarantino's films but of those I've seen I like it the best. John.

[@scotthajney4127]

My favorite western of all time. Have had the 4k for a year and haven't seen it yet. I might just have to give it a whirl this weekend

[@moviecollector5920]

If you do watch it this weekend Scott I think you'll be on a high for days because it's like seeing this great film all over again for the first time. It's undoubtedly going to be best projected as big as possible but I'm sure any telly screening will also be wonderful. John.

[@Art-is-craft]

I do not feel it is as good as say the Searchers or The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance but it is one hell of a movie.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@Art-is-craft OPEN RANGE might be my favourite Western but seeing this one again looking as good as it did in the cinema means it's got to be close. There's also WYATT EARP which I think was 1994. That's another one of the greatest ever. THE SEARCHERS was VistaVision of course so that gives it a bit of a boost that standard 35mm can't match. John.

[@offdacorner]

My favorite western and favorite Clint Eastwood movie of all time.

[@moviecollector5920]

I need to watch the other two greats again now. I don't think they have been released in 4K though so that might make a full comparison between the three a little unfair. John.

[@kovalveli]

We need Letters from Iwo Jima o 4K , amazing film. Thanks for the review mate.

[@moviecollector5920]

I'd like to get Gran Torino and Million Dollar Baby. They might be available in the USA but I don't think they are here, I'll have to check. John.

[@TheoM-bx3lx]

Thank you, Jhon. I really enjoyed your review on this beautiful Movie Thanks again. Have a great Easter. Also, can you review the abyss , aliens and true lies because I trust your reviews more than others?

[@moviecollector5920]

I don't think it's likely I'll get The Abyss Theo as it's not been released here. It should look good though because it does on Super 8. Enough people have said it's good. However, many don't like the perhaps excessive processing done during the mastering of TRUE LIES. James Cameron didn't shoot full frame anamorphic 35mm owing to computer effects which forced him down the Super 35 route. This was a major cause of the downturn in image quality towards the latter 1990's. I suspect he's being overly cautious about his films now being seen in such exceptional quality on tiny home screens and therefore wants to disguise anything he considers to be sub-standard. If it's true that some of the scenes in True Lies now have smeary looking areas then I'd hazard a guess that some of his caution has led to excessive image noise reduction. However, I would put money on the 4K looking better than any other version of the film that has been released with the possible exception of the recent cut down on Super 8 but that of course will not be the complete film on this occasion. It costs £25 so I suggest giving it a go and seeing what you think or if you have any doubts wait a few months and get it for £15. Considering what we used to pay for home movies the cost of these 4K discs is a bargain. An absolute, infathomable bargain irrespective of some not looking quite how they should. Let's face it, it's the 4K or the DVD or the LaserDisc. I'll probably stick with the LaserDisc but I expect the 4K to look even better. John.

[@laurasands8322]

My dear old dad loved westerns especially John Wayne, anytime a western was on TV he'd watch it regardless of how many times he'd already seen it, High Chaparral and Bonanza were watched every time they were on , when Unforgiven was released on video I rented it for him because the reviews said it was a classic, he didn't like it , he found it boring even though his favourite actor Gene Hackman was in it, you never can predict I suppose.

[@moviecollector5920]

Imagine the shock for your father though Laura to see a western that was more true to the brutality of that period. He'd grown up and lived with the fictional, sanitized western films and stories and now here it was laid bare. I can understand why some people do not like this film but for many of us it's as near a perfect film as you can get. John.

[@Galacticpurveyor]

Unforgiven is one of his best films he directed and it’s a response to all his previous westerns. Al Pacino did the same thing with the Godfather movies with Donnie Brasco. They both de-glamourize the genres they were strongly associated with. A Perfect World is also one the best films he directed.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think I only ever saw A Perfect World at the cinema and that was it. I've never forgotten it though. You've made me think about Clint Eastwood and Kevin Costner both starring in the same film - two of the greatest Western film makers of all time both in the same film. Amazing. John.

[@Galacticpurveyor]

@@moviecollector5920 For some reason it’s fallen through the radar. I think Tightrope co-starring Geneviève Bujold is really good as well (much better than the last 3 Dirty Harry movies) and nobody seems to talk about it.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@Galacticpurveyor I haven't seen Tightrope for years but now that you've mentioned it and the fact that Genevieve Bujould is the co-star, I'd like to see it again. John.

[@Galacticpurveyor]

@@moviecollector5920 So would I!

[@Galacticpurveyor]

@@moviecollector5920 White Hunter, Black Heart needs to be released on Blu-ray. Another under appreciated film he directed.

[@robmay3570]

Hi John I have had my 4K copy of this wonderful film for some time it came with a slip cover, I went straight from the DvD to the 4K, I saw this film on a large cinema screen it looked fantastic. as does the UHD disc

[@moviecollector5920]

The 4K has restored my original impression of the film. The Blu-ray is good but it somehow didn't do this film full justice. John.

[@markbassett642]

Another great review - thanks John. I think Unforgiven was probably the first western that I truly connected with - reckon I saw it first in the mid/late nineties as a teenager - I speculate that it took my interest because of Gene Hackman, who was familiar to me because of the Superman films in the first instance, and then the Poseidon Adventure. The writing and performances in Unforgiven are so good that I really still empathise with Hackman's character at the end, even though being supportive of Clint's character. Perhaps the first time I picked up on such ambiguity as a film watcher... And so glad to hear that you enjoyed Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - it's such an enjoyable slice of life in a specific time and place that don't exist any more - and it's never regretful about that but celebratory - and of course it has the usual incredible soundtrack that we'd expect fromTarantino films. Perhaps you'll consider doing a review of it?

[@moviecollector5920]

If you haven't seen OPEN RANGE then take a look at that Mark because it's clearly been influenced by UNFORGIVEN but manages to stand on its own as another of the greatest westerns ever made. I do plan to do a review of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Hope to finish revising the film tonight but other more important things have been in the way and may come up and bite me in the backside again the way things have been going. John.

[@markbassett642]

@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the recommendation, John. Open Range is now within my range! Hope all settles well enough for you to get back to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

[@davidjames579]

I know exactly what you mean about certain film screenings having a particular quality that just don't get on any home media up to Blu Ray. Its almost indescribable but heartening you can find it on UHD. I've had the same experience with watching 35mm prints decades later and it really is the closest thing to a time machine! To your thoughts and feelings then.

[@moviecollector5920]

I remember the impression this film gave in the Mezzanine very well David. This 4K disc has the same impact and I never would have thought it possible if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. 35mm film quality from a cheap home video format. Amazing. John.

[@southendonseaarts]

Great 4k, im astounded we still havent Dirty Harry in 4k yet, it didnt even appear in the Warner Bros 4k set.

[@moviecollector5920]

I have the early Blu-ray packs of the Dirty Harry films and I remember they look very much like film so maybe WB consider those to be good enough already. But it's more likely we'll get them all coming out as 4K soon and with the option of a wonderful, expensive box set. John.

[@loftlegacy]

Remember seeing it at the cinema and thought it was a gorgeous film and showed Clint’s craft as a film maker. Best wishes, Dave

[@moviecollector5920]

I agree. He's one of the greatest film makers in the history of the motion picture. So many wonderful films both as a star and as a director. John.

[@loftlegacy]

@@moviecollector5920 I may have a poster somewhere from back in the day when they gave free film posters at the cinema.

[@TheShornak]

I will have to check this movie out. I saw this at the theater in 1992 but haven't seen it since. I miss my home theater set up I used to have. I had a 65" Mitsubishi Rear projection HD TV with an Onkyo receiver and an Infinity 6.1 surround system. It sounded and looked so good. Watching Gladiator on Blu Ray back then it had a 6.1 setting and the seen where the gladiators walk into the arena for the first time and the camera swings around as they are all looking up at the audience the sound was just amazing with the chearing coming out of all 6 speakers. Oh I miss those days, it made watching movies at home a pleasure as I am sure you are experiencing. No I just have a 4k monitor and my galaxy earbuds to watch movies. So the sound it not surround but the picture quality is great. Sign of the times, I've had to downsize unfortunately.

[@moviecollector5920]

Good morning Stephen. A fellow film enthusiast friend has installed one of those video projectors that sits right in front of the wall/screen and projects an 8 foot wide picture from about 18 inches away. Maybe one day that will be the route for you to go down. I don't know if you can hang them from the ceiling but if so then that would solve any lack of space issues. All you'd need is enough wall space. Sound is a secondary thing for me as much as I love to have top-notch quality THX sound. John.

[@pete49327]

Enjoyed watching another fine review of yours, thanks as always. I bought Unforgiven 4k just a few weeks ago and loved it again after having watched a previous half dozen times over the years. I agree that the 4k looks great. Speaking of Eastwood, one of very first titles I bought when I first started collecting discs less than 3 years ago was Play Misty for Me. I think it was Eastwood's directorial debut. Jessica Walters plays a brilliantly acted psychopath imo; she's also gorgeous every micro second on screen and keeps me transfixed. The blu-ray is getting long in the tooth and has a lot of poor shadow detail, black crush, but well lit scenes are fine . Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is one of my favorite flims of past decade...I've got the blu-ray and I think it looks really good as is, so no double dip for me.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thanks Pete. With regard to Once Upon A Time In Hollywood the difference in quality between the Blu-ray and the 4K is stark. One of the few that I have seen where the 4K is so superior. There have been others but it was more of a surprise with this one because the film was so comparatively recent. If you love the film it might be worth finding a cheap copy of the 4K. John.

[@pete49327]

@@moviecollector5920 Well John now you've got me reconsidering and I'll definitely ponder for a while, thanks, your opinion/advice highly valued.

[@danielinglese4510]

One of my favourite Gene Hackman performances. Might have to rewatch my 4k copy this easter

[@moviecollector5920]

Today would be a good day for than Daniel because the basic premise of Unforgiven is a sort of resurrection of the old William Munny. John.

[@Mowglibaloo2]

Great movie. The BluRay is what I have and know there was a lot of room for improvement.

[@moviecollector5920]

I don't think it's likely we'll have anything better than the 4K unless a few 35mm prints come up for sale and even then the 4K would probably be better in some respects unless said 35mm print was a master straight off the original negative. John.

[@mikewilding3199]

One of my earliest 4ks very impressed with it. It made such an impression that it revived my interest in 4k. Loved it my TV setting for this is Filmaker mode plus a little brightness lift don't mind grain. Have you seen or got the Abyss got mine from US Amazon Cannot see the fuss over the rat scene which caused it to be banned here. The picture quality is better than I expected but is not the best but still a great improvement over the DVD. The blu rays are also region free. Thanks for the review of the unforgiven much appreciated

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Mike. I have a Super 8 print of THE ABYSS so I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to see the 4K. The rat scene is different and as much as I enjoyed seeing that extract from the new 4K I think I prefer the original cuts made for the UK market. Sometimes it's about what we already know and if it had have been the other way around then I'd prefer seeing the poor creature submerged. Another extract I saw a couple of days ago has a couple of famous lines missing so I do need to check that somehow. Politically incorrect these days probably. John.

[@ethanberry9846]

At the time the blu ray looked pretty good but now it looks like too much colour Saturation. I read somewhere that Eastwood supervised this 4k and he wanted it intentionally darker so those indoor scenes and especially the first 10 minutes or so are extremely dark but look more natural thanks to what the HDR does to the black levels, those scenes on blu ray now look washed out and blacks fall more onto the grey scale. I have the 4k steelbook and it's very impressive indeed. Thanks John, great review 👍

[@moviecollector5920]

That all makes a lot of sense Ethan. It's a film on a disc and this seems to be the case with so many 4K releases but certainly not all of them. John.

[@roachman1412]

Thanks for your review John your right back when Oscar's meant something 👍

[@moviecollector5920]

After the Will Smith slap episode and also that fiasco a few years ago when the best film award was given to the wrong film, I'd finally given up on the Oscars. At least some sort of normality returned this year so maybe things are improving. But I won't hold my breath. John.

[@MC-bh8ph]

Love unforgiven. Very much looking forward to the 4k of once upon a time in the west

[@moviecollector5920]

I have that one on Blu-ray. It also had a full length Super 8 back in 1978/79 so perhaps you have a few more home movie release versions for your shopping list! Now that I think about it, I think there was a 'Scope Super 8 release of it about 15 years ago too. That should be a thing of beauty. John.

[@queeg500]

Unforgiven was the first movie my wife (then girlfriend) and I went to see together, so it holds a special place in our hearts. It's also a brilliant movie too !

[@moviecollector5920]

That was a good way to start your relationship. I think the first I took my gal to see was Lethal Weapon. At the Warner West End now that I think about it. Those were the days when cinema was an occasion to remember on just about every visit. John.

[@444chroma]

Everything about OUATIH clicked for me it's always been one of my fav. Perfect ending 😂

[@moviecollector5920]

I haven't seen many Tarantino films but it's the best of his that I have seen. John.

[@PeterMcCluskey]

Thanks for the great review. I agree the 4K is wonderful. Speaking of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, will you be getting Once Upon a Time in the West in May? I'm very excited for it's release and hopefully it will look great

[@moviecollector5920]

I don't know if I'll purchase Once Upon A Time In The West immediately Peter as I only watched the Blu-ray a couple of years ago and it's not a film I find I can watch very often. It did have a feature length Super 8 release back in 1979 so it has quite a history on the home movie market. John.

[@craigosterberg5045]

Great western. I enjoyed it when it Was in theaters. 4 k should be good.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think the 4K is as good as seeing it on 35mm Craig so I expect you'll like it if you do purchase a copy. £15 for something as good and as enjoyable as this seems incredible to me. I don't think I'll ever get over the value offered by 4K home video now. John.

[@KeepYaHeadUpTS]

Great video John. I've one of the few who've never seen Unforgiven but I keep seeing it in the HMV deals so I'll likely pick it up at some point. Can't say I was a fan of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Just didn't float my boat but I hope you have a great time watching it

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Darren. Some won't like the violence in Unforgiven but it wouldn't be the film it is without it. I have watched Once Upon A Time In Hollywood all the way through and I'm watching it a second time in bits and so far I think it's absolutely terrific. Tarrantino has grown on my in the last couple of years so maybe the time for me to watch this one was just right. John.

[@KeepYaHeadUpTS]

@@moviecollector5920 yeah afterwards I thought even though it didn't really get along with it, I'd try it again in a few years. It's surprising how different films appeal at different points in your life.

[@KeepYaHeadUpTS]

@@moviecollector5920 I thought at the time it would be probably one I'd give another chance in a few years. Its funny how a movie can appeal more at a different stage in our lives.

[@The_Non-One]

“Unforgiven” is probably my favorite Western, although “Lonesome Dove” and “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly” are also top contenders. I just discovered your channel after researching 35mm film projection, and I will definitely be sticking around.

[@moviecollector5920]

Good to have you here. I think Wyatt Earp and Open Range are up there with Unforgiven but there are undoubtedly others that come close too. John.

[@stephenfielding8914]

John, 'Unforgiven' is a superb piece of film making, Clint Eastwood did a remarkable job. I think I also remember he was inspired to make this film because of the success of 'Dances with Wolves' bringing an audience back to westerns (or maybe it was the other way around); your enthusiasm for the film comes over clearly in the review... I agree with you totally on the PQ and the subtle audio that just brings the viewer into the story, without calling attention to itself... I also have a slipcover, but it's in a box with plenty of it's colleagues - I display the disc collection on the shelf without slip covers (seems to save enough space for another title, every several titles). Btw, in that box of Blu-rays, did you enjoy 'Flags of the Fathers' and 'Letters from Iwo Jima'? I support your idea of a 'Super 8' redux review. Cheers.

[@moviecollector5920]

Morning Stephen. Dances With Wolves was two years earlier as I recall and it did resurrect the Western. It also resurrected films of a longer length being about 3 hours long, but that's another discussion I suppose. I know what you're saying about slip covers taking up space on the shelves. I never used to care much for them but thanks to a few other KZbinrs talking about them and always preferring to get a release with a slip cover I've started to appreciate slips more and more. I did enjoy the two Iwo Jima films. I've only watched them twice in all the years I've had that box but remember them very well. Clint Eastwood is one of the best film makers in the history of the motion picture. He has made a plethora of great films. John.

[@andylindsey]

I'm a big fan of Eastwood's movies. I rewatched Unforgiven not long ago. I think it was free on Prime at the time. I started to understand the movie better this time; how the Wild West wasn't a clear-cut good guy/bad guy moral tale. Gunning down "bad guys" isn't a rewarding feat and it stains a man's soul. It's most evident when this dark musical motif that follows Gene Hackman's character follows Eastwood at the climax of the movie. It was quite haunting to witness the "villains" motif leap from one character to another.

[@moviecollector5920]

I didn't even pick up on that Andy so thank you for pointing it out. I'll try to remain more aware next time I'm watching it. John.

[@DarthHater100]

Never seen this movie. On the way from Amazon Canada later today! Visited newly opened Toys R Us HMV here in London Canada two weeks ago, and it was awesome. They didn't even have a sign or even a flyer taped to the front doors, advertising the HMV inside. Someone at work told me about it after accidentally discovering it while visiting the Toys R Us. No publicity whatsoever. Then when no one visits, they'll say "see, physical media is dead".

[@moviecollector5920]

Get back up there to that HMV and purchase a copy of Unforgiven Darth! Seriously though, if you haven't seen it, it really is a great film. Some don't like the violence and others don't appreciate the slow build up but I see those to elements as vital ingredients to its fundamental success. John.

[@gurdipvirdee7176]

John, Never seen this one. Going to pop down to hmv and pick this one up. Happy Easter❤

[@moviecollector5920]

It should be a wonderful, top class film to enjoy sometime over Easter Gurdip. It's got a sort of resurrection theme in a way as the Eastwood character comes back to life and returns to his old ways so it's quite appropriate even if it is somewhat violent in places. John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Ignore this message Gurdip! I'm typing it as KZbin keeps telling me I haven't responded. Have a happy Easter. John.

[@darkvader7231]

Thanks for another great review, it is for sure one of the best out there although Once upon a time in the West is the one I'm waiting for on 4k as it is my favourite western. Talking of Tarantino, I have every single film of his as director and my favourites are pulp fiction, django and Inglourious Basterds. Cheers John.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think I'll be trying Inglorious Basterds next Dark. I hope there aren't any nasty sexual assaults in it because that's the main sort of thing I don't tend to like and it took me years to get over that scene in Pulp Fiction. That one doesn't affect me anywhere near as badly now but some of the things in Hateful Eight I didn't like which was a shame. John.

[@darkvader7231]

@@moviecollector5920 As far as I know, there is one brief sex scene in Inglourious Basterds but it is consenting adults and very brief. I dont like sex scenes in films generally as they are best left to the imagination.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@darkvader7231 I second that. But I do realize that beautiful, scantily-clad gals do tend to draw in the blokes at times. John.

[@darkvader7231]

@@moviecollector5920 😂😂 that's true..

[@ahdvd]

Unforgiven is one of those rare movies that are of a time and yet timeless. Surprising that it was originally meant to be just a violent, bloody western, but Eastwood changed it to be a lot more dramatic about an aged gun slinger, and what resulted was a great western, brutal when needed, but with extremely anti-violent sentiment. I haven’t yet, but I’m desperate to see the Japanese remake that was made several years ago, with Ken Watanabe in the lead, as a retired Samurai in feudal Japan setting. It especially interests me as it’s a rare remake where Hollywood made the original instead of being the remake. Regarding Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, I really enjoyed it, the Mrs did but not as much - it was especially interesting to see Tarantino’s take on the Sharon Tate murder and see his alternate history ‘once upon a time in,,,’ style. I think it’s also one of those movies where if you know the real history events, it influences your watching experience, especially those brutal final 10 minutes or so. I saw it in cinemas and it was almost my favourite movie that year but was beaten by Bad Times At The Royale - which has a fictional yet somewhat parable connection to a lot of elements in OUATIH, and feels like a Tarantino movie despite him having nothing to do with it. I don’t know if you’ve seen it or not, but since you liked OUATIH I thoroughly recommend it to you. Andrew

[@moviecollector5920]

I shall have to look up the Sharon Tate murder because I don't think I know anything about it. Thank you for pointing that out to me. I did actually do a review of Bad Times At The El Royale sometime ago. I think it was a sort of 4K round up video with another 4K. Right found it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mImTo6evrst7qMk&pp=ygUkYmFkIHRpbWVzIGF0IHRoZSBlbCByb3lhbGUgNGsgcmV2aWV3

[@ahdvd]

Picked up the Unforgiven 4k today when I was in Cex, £10 but was from credit from some things i had traded in a little while back, so I decided to go for it. So it’s on the pile with a few new acquisitions, including The Proposition I still haven’t gotten around to yet. Has me hoping for a 4k of another western I loved, Open Range.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@ahdvd I too think OPEN RANGE is one of the all-time best westerns and may actually be my favourite of the lot. It's not very well known though so I don't suppose it's very likely it will be re-transferred and re-mastered for a 4K release. The 101 Films Blu-ray is very good though if you don't already have it. The sound is Dolby Stereo whereas a previous German Blu-ray has a 5.1 soundtrack but I'm increasingly finding that Dolby Stereo sounds better lately. I need to do some more playing about to get the digital tracks sounding as nice now that I've rediscovered LaserDisc sound and how good it always was. John.

[@ahdvd]

@@moviecollector5920 I think Kevin Costner might own the rights to Open Range which may be why it hasn’t had a high-rez update as being the director he’d probably want to oversee the quality before any such release. As far as I remember reading, he financed the movie himself with his own money and while not a hugely expensive figure, I think it was made for less than $30m considering the town set had to be built and everything involved. And i think being so modestly budgeted, despite not being a huge hit, it’s garnered a cult following and probably turned a profit and the following would likely snap it up on disc.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@ahdvd Well, there two copies sold already if it does ever get a 4K release - to you and I. What a great film even if Kevin Costner's six shooter is capable of seven shots in the final shoot out when he fans the trigger. Whoops! John.

[@williamjackson6705]

Just chiming in to say I agree with everything said. Easily one of the greatest films ever made. Time has not diminished its impact.

[@moviecollector5920]

It's got to be a near perfect film if it's not actually perfect. And there aren't many I'd ever say that about. John.

[@beck645]

Hello again John. It’s Mr 6300 movies. I’d really love hearing you review the 4 k Hunt for Red October. I’ve watched a few others do this but you are the only one I trust. Can’t decide if I want to spend the money or not. If it’s that much better than the Blu-ray. Side note. I’m the only person who could never get into The Unforgiven. Can’t explain it. Love Clint but this one just doesn’t work for me. Great work as always. Big respect to you.

[@moviecollector5920]

I need to take another look at Red October as I haven't tried it on the latest video projector. It was far too dark through the older projector but I don't think that will be the case on every system and certainly not on many or most tellies. Unforgiven is a great film but if we all thought the same of every movie then it would be a little strange. Sometimes it takes years before I see a film the same way others do so you may find the same with Unforgiven. John.

[@user-bi3gk6kd2p]

Sorry off topic question! As you are also a Super 8mm expert, what Cine film cleaner do you recommend? My 2.22 purchased from Derann about 20yrs ago has now ran out! 😢

[@moviecollector5920]

I think we're a bit limited for choice for film cleaner these days. Film Guard would be my preference but getting hold of it in the UK now seems a little difficult. Classic Home Cinema reproduce Cresclean and although I don't think it's identical to what we used to be able to purchase it does seem to do the job. John.

[@user-bi3gk6kd2p]

Thank you for the information John. Super 8mm collecting is such a joy and I get the same thrill Winding up my Elmo and Eumig projectors as I do with my UHD Panasonic on the big screen! Please review ( No Pressure ) lol The 4K release of The Hitcher, the back story to this movie is almost as amazing as Apocalypse Now! I have the Two Disc DVD from around 20 yrs ago by Studio Canal. IMO Studio Canal produce superb quality releases and even their standard DVDs are up to Blu Ray definition! My favourite Studio Canal Blu Ray is without doubt, Cross Of Iron! They did a superb job of cleaning up this over 50 year old movie and in many scenes it looks like 3D! I look forward to upgrading to 4K when the Panasonic needs replacing! Once again thank you for the reply to my off topic question😊

[@moviecollector5920]

@@user-bi3gk6kd2p You'd have liked recent copies of Cinema Retro magazine if you're a fan of Cross Of Iron. I think it was a two-part feature over two recent issues. It's made me want to see the film anyway. I've already emailed the boss at Second Sight Films regarding their forthcoming 4K release of The Hitcher so if that works out I'll purchase a copy and get it sent through a week or so before it's actually on sale. I still have the VHS copy which was horrible (i.e. terrible picture quality) but that always seemed to suit such a horrible film. John.

[@LaughMuBai]

Snap! Couldn't believe my eyes when I was in my local HMV not too long ago, but there it was, an Unforgiven in a slipcover a little bit tattered! I mentioned to the staff what a lucky find this is considering what the slipcover alone was selling for, and they said, "Oh that one, it's been knocking around for awhile." Such a great, great film, and as Clint said, "Just goes to show you don't have to spend a lot of money to make a good movie." I'm so looking forward to 'The Outlaw Josey Wales' coming to 4K (hopefully), probably his best western... "Well are you gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?" "I noticed people you don't like, don't seem to stay around very long either." 😅

[@moviecollector5920]

It might have been you that told me about the slip cover situation Mubai so thank you if so. I probably wouldn't have considered it otherwise but so pleased that I did. I can't believe how much more enjoyable this film is on 4K compared to the Blu-ray. Funny how much difference a little improvement in quality can make to a movie sometimes. John.

[@LaughMuBai]

@@moviecollector5920 Oh, maybe I did as think I commented on it before and great you got one too. So glad you liked the transfer and given it the seal of approval as haven't seen the 4K yet, and the player settings appreciated as well.

[@gbgary]

since we're on westerns here I'll recommend one you should see if you haven't..."Hostiles" with Christian Bale, Rosemont Pike, and Wes Studi. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@moviecollector5920]

Nope, never seen Hostiles so I'll tell wifey to keep an eye out when we're in good ol' HMV. Thank you for the tip Gary. John.

[@ChaseCapital2826]

John, who would you say as a collector yourself makes the highest quality movie boxsets or editions? Criterion, Arrow or who? I want to buy Alien blu ray, but when I look at all the different editions they all have the same disc? also can't make my mind up on a projector, it's between Optoma, Epson and Benq, do you have a preference? last question I promise, do you use keystone correction on you screen, thank you friend...

[@moviecollector5920]

First thing to say is that I did use a keystone correction when I was projecting from an angle. That reduces the quality of the image though as to straighten the image out means the size has to be reduced, if that makes any sense. Best to project from as near the centre of the screen as possible unless you get a projector with lens shift across the horizontal axis. The best box sets in my opinion are Second Sight Films and Arrow Films. But just about every distributor comes out with a box at some point that rivals the best out there. Second Sight have probably been the most consistent but they are possibly the most expensive too. I haven't had an Epson projector for many years but when I was first looking at 4K projectors I couldn't find a budget Epson that was actually 4K. They all seemed to be HD with HDR capability. Some contributors to the comments on here have purchased 4K BenQ projectors and rate them highly but I've had a couple of Optoma 4K projectors and they've both been amazingly good. Actually, they both are still amazingly good. The reason we had to get a second projector was because the original one was too big to hang from the ceiling where we had to position it. Funnily enough, I'll be showing all that briefly near the start of the next video which will probably be uploaded later on today. John.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

This is my favourite revisionist western. Thanks for letting me know this has been released. 👍 Deserves got nothing to do with it.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think it was issued six or seven years ago on 4K. I might be wrong but because I had the Blu-ray I didn't bother with the 4K until now. What a revelation it is. John.

[@markhempenstall5379]

Unforgiven is great movie once upon a time in Hollywood gets better each time you watch it john two fabulous films

[@moviecollector5920]

And I hope to finish my second viewing of 'Hollywood' this evening Mark. I've had to watch it in bits second time around. Looking forward to that wonderful ending again. John.

[@Mowglibaloo2]

Great news that HMV will be in Canadian ToysRUs

[@moviecollector5920]

They've already opened in them Mowgli. I don't know if it's in all branches of Toys-R-Us but perhaps it will be if it's not already. John.

[@paulallenMacca]

I always like the Spaghetti Westerns like The Good The Bad And The Ugly.

[@moviecollector5920]

I'm pretty sure that trilogy of Dollars films were shot TechniScope Paul but so many people have told me the 4K discs are brilliant which belies their lower quality origins. If you happen to import any of them do let me know what you think of the image quality. John.

[@CastlesForEyes]

A few weeks ago I decided to rewatch Unforgiven, as I hadn't seen it in a decade or so, so I grabbed my HD-Dvd and popped it in, only to get to the half way mark and have the disc glitch out; it's one of those damned Warner Bros poorly produced disc rot HD-Dvd releases. They're piling up now. So thanks for reminding me I need the upgrade John.

[@moviecollector5920]

What a terrible shame Stephen. I have similar issues with a few 4K discs so it's not unique to HD DVD. A couple of LaserDiscs also suffer laser rot but they still play, just get some blobs on the screen until the affected area is passed because they're not computer discs, they're analogue - apart from the digital soundtracks where they're applied. John.

[@CastlesForEyes]

@@moviecollector5920 ~ Yeah, I have a nice little pile of rotted laserdiscs, some that are so bad they refuse to play side 2. I think my HD-DVD disc rot count is at around 60 so far, with a few more to check. It was a WB only problem, so the majority of my HD-Dvds are thankfully still as good as the day I bought them. Hopefully we don't get anything as bad as that situation with 4K discs a few years down the line.

[@davelangridge3557]

Great review excellent movie still prefer him in thr he dirty harry movies I know different hopefully they will get 4k treatment please dint leave the reviews so long seems like months without you doing one john lol

[@moviecollector5920]

I recorded this last Sunday morning and put it together as quickly as possible and then had to deal with something very important. I'm still not fully back in the land of the living Dave but managing to handle all the comments okay. I can't say more than that on an open forum so sorry about that. John.

[@davelangridge3557]

@moviecollector5920 thanks for the reply John wish u good health look forward to future reviews

[@TomGur147]

Your comment about reservoir dogs made me smile, have you not seen it? While I’ve always loved Tarantino films I never really liked reservoir dogs, then last year I rewatched the new 4k transfer and saw it in a completely new light, not just because of how amazing it looked but simply because of how tight and well scripted it is and ienjoyed it more than I ever did previously.

[@moviecollector5920]

A colleague summed up how he felt about Quentin Tarantino films and it was exactly how I also felt. He said, "I like his as a film maker, I just don't like his movies." I came very close to walking out of Pulp Fiction with the male rape scene and it was years before I tried another Tarantino film (The Hateful Eight) which also disgusted me in one or two scenes. I finally managed to give Pulp Fiction a second try because I did enjoy the dance sequence near the start and I very much enjoyed it second time around. I was prepared for that notorious shocking scene so it didn't bother me hardly at all. I think 'Hollywood' is only the third of his films that I've seen and that is because of the effect the other two had on me. I can't quite believe how good I find Once Upon A Time In Hollywood but I haven't finished getting all the way through it a second time yet as there's been a bit of an emergency I've had to take care of that I can't talk about on an open platform. Hoping to be back in the cinema this evening though. Forgot to say, no, I've never seen Reservoir Dogs.... yet. John.

[@TomGur147]

@@moviecollector5920 I loved Once upon a time and shall watch it again soon. The characters are great and I love the revisionist history films he’s done like this and inglorious Basterds. I think once upon a time was great because it just allowed us to wallow in the period and the characters but with an underlying feeling that something bad is going to happen (it is Tarantino after all!) and he is a master at creating that long and slow tension, allowing it to build and build.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@TomGur147 I thought the ending was hilarious and I hope to watch the last 45 minutes or so again this evening before watching something else. I love the way it was all set up much earlier in the film. I suspect Inglorious Basterds will be my next 'risk' with a Tarantino film. John.

[@TomGur147]

@@moviecollector5920 fear not there are no gay rape scenes in Inglorious and it features an amazing turn from Cristolph Waltz. It is also very funny. I look forward to hearing your thoughts! Tom

[@moviecollector5920]

@@TomGur147 All good to know Tom, thank you. John.

[@timothymathetes]

Your experience with this film is true validation of the existence of the format, and testimony to the fact that this type of thing should be the goal when producing a 4k disc. That being said, I recently acquired a True Lies 4k, and it's obvious that was not James Cameron's goal. The movie looks nice and vibrant, but not like film. Not terrible, just digital.

[@moviecollector5920]

I think TRUE LIES was Super 35 and not anamorphic 35mm like Unforgiven so it was unlikely to be as good. It is pretty terrific on LaserDisc though so I expect it was good on DVD too so if the 4K isn't to your liking Timothy maybe just stick with the DVD. No doubt Mr. Cameron wanted to do the best he could for the bulk of the current 4K audience and new, young viewers whom will probably prefer the more video look to the movie. Most 4K releases are pretty terrific so we've got to look at it in terms of 'you can't win 'em all'. It's not like they cost £500 or more which is what a Super 8 feature costs these days. John.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the 4k, but the very filmic attributes like the blurring of the foreground to focus on the background of a shot is lost, and the camera moves differently in those scenes too. It's something I noticed because I like those things about the film. Maybe I'm too picky.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@timothymathetes I wonder if that's motion blurring causing the effect - doubtful though reading what you said again. Cathode ray televisions never used to suffer from this but I certainly notice it.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 I made sure that I turned off the motion smoothing function on my television a long time ago.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@timothymathetes That doesn't sort it Timothy. It's a problem of the whole LCD, Plasma and whatever else form of display now. CRT didn't have the problem. And 16x9 HD CRT at 1200 lines had been perfected in the 1980's so why do you think we didn't got down that route? I don't have the answer to that but I have my suspicions.

[@ChaseCapital2826]

John, Would you consider reviewing An American Werewolf in London, always loved this movie and I feel is worthy of a look, either blu ray or 4k, Arrow video, now building a home cinema in my bedroom, love your channel, Darren..

[@moviecollector5920]

I have the standard Blu-ray of An American Werewolf In London and as much as I've always very much liked the film I can't say that I find it particularly repeatable. That said, it's likely the next time I feel the urge to watch it again I'll look for the 4K. Good luck with the bedroom home cinema. Is it going to be a projection cinema? I'm not the biggest fan of tellies but I understand why many are a bit apprehensive of projectors given not many of us grew up with projection in the home. John.

[@stevenandnicola123]

I was underwhelmed with the film John, perhaps it couldn't live up to the hype? But saying that I ain't a big western fan. Beautiful looking disc though (and mine came with a slip cover).

[@moviecollector5920]

Now this is one that only works on a pretty big screen Steven. I will never forget how impressive it looked in that tiny studio in the Odeon Mezzanine but it somehow worked. This 4K can capture that experience with a video projector. John.

[@spaceodds1985]

“A computer process, not a photographic process” Tell that to James Cameron, and his use of AI. Really would like to hear your views on the recent and long awaited releaes on The Abyss and True Lies. As for Unforgiven, a great film and a very fitting swansong to Eastwood’s Western persona. Having both an LCD and an OLED, I turn up the HDR Optimisation to 11 on the former (reason why I always watch BD on that screen) On the OLED I never have to use it and it’s a blessing not to use it. Thanks for this video, and wishing you a Happy Easter.

[@moviecollector5920]

Ah, that's the transfer though and not the mastering. I know just about every KZbin reviewer confuses the two as being the same thing. I bet the unaltered cine to video transfers of James Cameron's films looked a little too grainy after the scans and he therefore wanted to do the best that was possible with them for the majority of people likely to purchase his films on 4K and possibly Blu-ray too. Most want a modern, grain free image and that's probably what most of us real enthusiasts don't want to see. As long as they sell in big numbers it's good news for all of us irrespective of what any of us might think. I don't need any of those 4K discs as I have two of the films on Super 8 and not so bothered about True Lies which I still very much enjoy on the fabulous PAL LaserDisc. But I might take a look at one or two just for a KZbin video. John.

[@spaceodds1985]

@@moviecollector5920Would have to agree about looking too grainy (just look at Aliens in BD) As for True Lies, reserving my judgement till I get my 4K disc but seeing it on my Apple TV (purchased the film years ago) it looks horrid IMO. The Abyss I found to be divisive especially the tint, having said that it suits the film and it’s an improvement over the old 4:3 letterbox DVD.

[@Boyer316]

I would be very interested to hear your opinion of Aliens on 4K John, I thought it looked fantastic compared to the 2010 Blu-ray but it's contentious.

[@moviecollector5920]

A lot of work went into making it look as good as possible so that the most people would be impressed with it as a 4K. Those of us who know the film well will question what has been done to it but it's only £25 so it's hardly the cost of a 35mm print. Anyone who is not entirely happy with it can stick with the previous releases. I have two copies of the film on Super 8 so I don't particularly care as nothing will ever supplant having it on film. I might purchase a copy but a KZbin video about it I make will be more of a mini-documentary about the film as a whole. Keith at Euphoria Pictures has already said it all for anyone who is interested. John.

[@CodyMarion01]

The darker scenes are crushed. Unfortunately. I think I might actually prefer the 1080 disc for that reason

[@moviecollector5920]

There was no crushing through our system. Other discs have suffered with this though so you're not alone. The Dune 4K was one which suffered badly from crushing in the blacks towards the end but our current video projector handles it better than our previous one. John.

[@modockthegreat]

yes you really need to see resovoir dogs and pulp fiction,they are masterpieces in screenplay and cinematography.

[@moviecollector5920]

I've done Pulp Fiction as a 4K review so that one has grown on me. I'll have to work my way to Reservoir Dogs by way of a few other Tarantino movies first. John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Forgot to wish you a happy Easter. So Happy Easter! John.

[@Art-is-craft]

@@moviecollector5920 One of the issues with watch reservoir dogs after Pulp fiction is it may come across as underwhelming.

[@ultraturbosoggy]

Would love to see/hear your thoughts on the "sort of dubious" James Cameron's 4K "Three-Wham Shabam" i.e. Aliens, The Abyss, and True Lies that came out here in the 'states on March 12, with it's weird mix of new colortimings, a.i. trained noise reduction and image sharpening, and a slew of other features/changes, also would love to here what you think of the HDR "that being either HDR10 or Dolby Atmos" and the Dolby Atmos that all of them come with, regardless, yet another great video, can't wait to see more!

[@moviecollector5920]

I'll probably take a look at Aliens sometime but I'm not in any rush as I'd only be purchasing the 4K to include it in a KZbin video and would probably never watch it all the way through as I have two copies of the film on film. I have True LIes on PAL LasersDisc and I have never found it that repeatable even though I very much like the film. I shall have to give the LD a bit of a spin just to check my memory of a very good quality LD is correct because if it is then I don't really understand why so much work went into the mastering of the 4K. James Cameron knows what he's doing though so I'm sure the new, modern look will appeal to the majority and perhaps help to attract a new audience. You've made me think though, was True Lies the last good film James Cameron made. I know a lot of people like Titanic and the Avatar cartoon/motion capture movies were massive successes but I didn't like any of those much. Oops, can't judge the Avatar sequel as I didn't bother seeing it and possibly never will given it's 3 hours and I found the first film to be far too long at 2.5 hours. John.

[@ultraturbosoggy]

@@moviecollector5920 Honestly I think you might be on to something with "Was True Lies the last good film James Cameron made?" Obviously it's a divisive question and people will have sides but I couldn't agree more with your statement, especially with the whole blue navi creature "cgi land" and its length, that does seem to be a "James Cameronism" though doesn't it? Making like really long movies *not that it's a bad thing necessary, obviously each movie needs it's proper amounts of time to setup characters and plot devices and the likes, but James really does pay attention to every detail it seems and the lengths of his films usually dictate that, regardless besides that, the only other copy of True Lies that I had watched was the D-Theater VHS of it and I believe that was 1080i with MPEG-2 compression? I recall the movie having a much warmer color palette on that, but then again even though it was "HD VHS" it still had some of those classic staples of VHS, slight blur / softness to the image, chromatic aberration, washed out colors but obviously nothing horrible and nothing that wouldn't make me not want to watch it, but when jumping over to the 4K it was just shocking seeing how well scrubbed of grain it was, they weren't lying when they said they used different technology since the T2 Lionsgate 4K, I mean there are still moments where some of the characters look a little waxy, but it looks loads better in comparison, the real thing that throws me off is the A.I based image sharpening, it really just exacerbates particular facial features, eyes, nose, mouth/teeth, "key wrinkles if you will", I noticed it alot throughout the film but there were several moments that I noticed more so, for example there is a scene of Tom Arnold and Arnold Schwarzenegger in vehicular pursuit of the "terrorist / antagonist" there were certain moments where I could pause the frame and most of the shot would be a blur *obviously due to the fact that they're driving, and there is a camera car in front of them that's also driving, and the camera is getting whipped around trying to film them* but you upon pausing you would notice that most of the shot would be a blur however, the characters eyes, especially Arnold Schwarzenegger's would be almost crystal clear, but the detail on them and the way they looked it was almost like a painter's interpretation of an eye? I don't know how to describe it in words accurately, but it was just a weird quasi artificial look to it that's all. Apart from the weird occasional hiccups, the movie was still very enjoyable to watch and I was glad to see it again in higher definition. Actually, after writing my previous comment, I watched the abyss that night and in comparison to the True Lies 4K, and other 4K's that I've seen I thought it looked amazing, now I'm going to be honest I hadn't seen The Abyss before this release (on the younger side of things so I didn't have the opportunity to see it went it ran in Theaters, and although I could have picked it up on say DVD at some point secondhand I didn't) just based off what I saw last night it was really good, I mean obviously the CGI shots don't hold up as much as they used to, and the optical effect shots *especially the green/blue screen are very obvious* but it was great, so many of the shots were just teeming with some much detail, I was really blown away, as for how the picture looks in comparison to previous releases or in theaters I couldn't say myself, but I really enjoyed watching it, another long one though, "Special Edition or Directors Cut" hit credits at pretty much 2 hours 40-45 minutes, regardless though. All of this talk about these great movies and James Cameron, got me rewatching your Alien review again and now I want to watch Aliens and see how that one fairs from the other two. Regardless though thank you so much for the response! To hear your insight on these movies and your thoughts, the different versions you've seen and own I love watching videos that really go into those details. So I just want to thank you again for reading my comment and responding *and subsequently thank you if you were to respond to this one as well lol* Anyways cheers and have a good one! :)

[@moviecollector5920]

@@ultraturbosoggy Now that is among the longest of comments I've ever had on this channel so well done for sticking at the keyboard for so long. From what you've said about True Lies you've confirmed that a lot of work went into it. Most people purchasing a 4K disc think all 4K is the same whereas of course for films that have been transferred from the various film gauges and variations of formats within those gauges it's down to how the film looked originally. If it looked great at the time owing to fine grain film stock, good lighting and the best cinematographers then the end product on 4K home video should be very good. However, then a film called TENET comes along and most people think a cine to video transfer is a cine to video transfer but TENET in particular (DUNKIRK too but I'll use TENET as the example as I think it may be the best) was shot mainly 15/70 IMAX. The dialogue sequences were mainly standard 70mm. No digital video recording format comes close and so transferring something that looks so good down to something around one-fifteenth of the quality still results in the best, most exceptional quality. I call this phenomenon the VistaVision effect because VistaVision was invented as a wide format, horizontal shooting 35mm and that had an image are more than two times that of standard, full frame 35mm. There were very few VistaVision projectors in the world so the concept was more to produce superior standard 35mm prints owing to the superior quality of the originating larger film frame format. It worked. And that is why other large film formats result in superior imagery irrespective of whatever they are shrunk down onto. People who have seen TENET can tend to think that exceptional quality is down to the 4K video format and therefore every other 4K disc should look as good. True Lies and The Abyss were shot Super 35 which is a tiny area of the 35mm frame compared to even standard, full frame anamorphic 35mm. They will therefore not look as good as exceptional 4K discs such as TENET and I expect James Cameron wanted to make them as good as possible and as appealing to the masses as possible. I have The Abyss on Super 8 film and even though Fox were unable to supply a 16mm negative for the process of producing the Super 8 prints (a standard 35mm print had to be used to create a 16mm negative from which to strike double Super 8 prints that are then slit into a pair of Super 8 prints) the end result was still impressive. A cut down of True Lies has been released on Super 8 about a year ago but I don't think I've seen it. I do however have the theatrical trailer on Super 8 and it looks pretty darned good. It's a shame this quality wasn't deemed good enough for a 4K home video release but I expect James Cameron has done the best thing possible overall. Aliens was 1.85:1 35mm and I remember not being impressed with the 35mm general release print I saw in 1986. This was because I'd seen the 70mm blow-up three times at the Odeon Leicester Square but I do not recall exactly how good (or not) that was. It's a grainy film on Super 8 and that did come from a 16mm negative. If that is representative, it needed work for the 4K release. Just watch them and enjoy them. Play with settings of player and projector/telly to try to reduce or turn off any digital 'enhancements' because all they do is ruin your image. It could be that something is making these more heavily re-processed movies look a little more artificial than they really are. I had a good experience with American Graffiti whereas most people were berating it. It's possible this is because I have my equipment setup to replicate the look of film as close as I can get it whereas most people wouldn't even know what film looked like. John.

[@alaindelacourt9030]

salut voila une belle sue se film film 4k

[@moviecollector5920]

Je suis d'accord Alain, c'est un beau film et sur disque 4K c'est aussi bon qu'il l'était dans les cinémas en 1992. John.