Unfunded tax cuts, refugees cross the Irish border and Tory FB groups | PoliticsJOE reacts to PMQs

Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer returned to the despatch box this week for another showdown.
Today we're talking about rumoured Tory plans to abolish National Insurance, the unsubstantiated claims by the Irish government that 80% of the asylum seekers they've received have crossed from Northern Ireland, and Susan Hall getting caught out yet again doing questionable things online.
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[@PoliticsJOE]

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[@ianedmonds9191]

Angela Raynor is the best thing about this prospective Labour government.

[@bassekaman8315]

Sad

[@MikeyRussell88]

Rather thave Angela as labour leader over Starmer who was only put in to shutdown the corbyn left at any cost.

[@thinfourth]

i hate the tories so much as i want to have socially acceptable opinions

[@nomoreheroes93]

Why?

[@ianedmonds9191]

@@nomoreheroes93 She's a believer in moving up in the world and social justice. Also she has the guts and self assurance to attack the tory front bench. She represents the working class rising to oppose the private schooled wankers we currently have governing us. Why Not?

[@benjones3466]

A Conservative PM saying we can't have a government in Ireland cherry-picking international agreements... interesting...

[@RichJohn]

Can I request that whenever Peter Mandelson's name is mentioned, that he is referred to as "Disgraced, twice-sacked former minister Peter Mandelson"? Accurate, and a timely reminder of what he is. Why *anyone* continues to pay attention to him and his ideas is beyond me.

[@markemark449]

Yes, we only want to hear from the crooked politicians who were smart enough not to get caught!

[@RegHoldsworth-ri7hh]

When he was 'our' MP he was unapproachable, more interested in his new London apartment, paid for by a dodgy loan. The town at the time was named one of the worst in country. Don't forget horizon.

[@KittenisKitten]

@@RegHoldsworth-ri7hh Every time they mention him, all i can think is this bit from Frankie Boyle kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZeZdIGOrNl_h6M

[@cynicalpenguin]

Alleged friend of Epstein

[@jules263]

Sunak - son of immigrants Braverman - daughter of immigrants Patel - daughter of immigrants Badenoch - immigrant Cleverly - son of immigrants Raab - son of immigrants And yet none of them want the same chances for others that they've benefitted from.

[@doyourrip]

best way to appear not racist - get immigrants to sell the message....🤦‍♂

[@englishbob9492]

Yep even immigrants don’t want more immigrants

[@roostah3575]

Frikkin Ladder-pullers, every last one!

[@hettispaghetti6061]

Pulling the ladder up behind is a common trait with Tories

[@keithpanton]

@@englishbob9492 Perhaps as they're all rich, they could deport themselves, and show willing.

[@LCOF]

Interview Sangita Myska. Have Ollie do the interview.

[@chrisewins836]

100%.

[@IdlesCorner]

It's better Ed does it. There will be a conflict of interest in his job at LBC. He already gets put in the early mornings, after that interview he will be out if the job, tbh. *Not saying I agree with it being seen this way but LBC will*

[@bassekaman8315]

​@IdlesCorner yeah thats the point, principles and that

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

It would appear Ollie is fully muzzled by LBC.

[@IdlesCorner]

@@bassekaman8315 I agree in an ideal world that would happen but my cynical outlook says it won't unfortunately

[@harrybarrett9653]

You guys are firing these out. I'm very happy

[@veggienugnugs]

How about we "reward hard work" with a functioning NHS?

[@FabianMacGintyONeill]

As an Irishman, it's our pointless, austerity addicted government versus your somehow even worse one!

[@Czechbound]

Whilst they beg the EU to give EU13,100,000,000 back to Apple even though Apples owes them the money. The mind boggles ...

[@tonetoobtwo]

It's the worst game of top trumps imaginable, with the very small consolation that we're not in the USA!

[@reverendroar]

Count Binface for London Mayor

[@samuelmelton8353]

genuinely, why not? He (is it a he?) would probably do a reasonable job

[@blueboywill]

​@@samuelmelton8353Be/Bin

[@Locationqueen845]

Feeling blessed by the amount of content coming from you guys

[@Loneman_OG]

Wot, Jomberly Crumbles grows *_JAM_* on his allotment?! Wow, what a guy! 😍

[@mattrecommends8360]

Ava’s Sysiphus/Gullis comparison is the funniest it’s ever been on this podcast… apart from the Sadiq’s Cans episode

[@veggienugnugs]

Crying 😂

[@eugdee7293]

You do not need ID for domestic travel on the ferry between Britain and the north of ireland

[@parametr]

You didn't need ID 16 years ago. Now you SHOULD bring an ID: "UK and Irish citizens travelling between Britain and Ireland do not need a passport to travel but are advised to take the following as proof of identity" Notice it says "UK and Irish citizens"? How do you know somebody is a UK or Irish citizen without checking?

[@Bailey-dj6hz]

Ed been sent back to Cornwall I see

[@cameronfateweaver2206]

Rwanda policy in action.

[@Bailey-dj6hz]

@@cameronfateweaver2206 evoked a very pained laugh from me, godspeed to him

[@twistedsanity666]

Ava, you've given me your bloody cold, I sneezed seconds after you sneezed! Thanks!

[@Warbsy1990]

"No mingers in bio." I love how without missing a beat said "I'll miss you."

[@anthonysullivan3238]

Sangita would be great (really sad she's gone / it's so wrong) but no doubt LBC have got an nda with her plus Oli is gainfully employed by LBC so that would make things tricky for him

[@DavieBee1988]

why would it make it tricky for them you either stand up against the bs LBC is pulling or sit there like a lap dog fyi have a look who owns LBC and who he supports its clear to see might aswell rename the station to LIC(Israel leading conversation) Oli grow a back bone and speak out

[@dh1380]

She endorsed Enoch? Didn't Hislop make a joke about that? 😮😂

[@reverendroar]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1493">24:53</a> I agree with Ava’s statement on Gullis. He’s a shit local MP - can me please have Tristan Hunt back please! Hunt cared about Stoke’s communities, while Gullis never stops at Stoke Station

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

Just listening to Jonathan Gullis reminds me of those people at work that you'd never hand an important task to.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

Bring back Sangita

[@MartinBroadhurst]

I audibly gasped when you said you're at HTLGI. I love that festival so much. Best in Britain. Might see you there.

[@MartinBroadhurst]

P.s. it isn't the same as hay festival!

[@bensalt1185]

Seems ridiculous to request voter ID but not support a national ID card?!

[@dannyerwin2287]

Papers please?

[@bensalt1185]

@@dannyerwin2287 And why is that an issue if Greece, Belgium, Finland, France, Spain, Czechia seem to have a national ID programme and aren't countries like that? That outdated attitude is somehow a valid excuse...

[@bensalt1185]

@@dannyerwin2287 Well we already have central NHS, DVLA and Passport database, plus National Insurance numbers that tracks everyone so why not have this as one card as ID that is issued to all at 16? Greece, Spain, Belgium, France Czechia all have National ID programmes and their police are no worse than the UK?! Why is it so scary?

[@ItsMeHarry]

I love how Ava is just on top form today when it comes to both discussing the planned topics and making Oli uncomfy

[@diabl2master]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1873">31:13</a> Ava: "I didnt hear the clip so" Pleeeease get the clip up every time you say "roll the clip" so you and the viewers are on the same page!

[@beccacinnamond]

The ferry from liverpool to belfast is nearly 9 hours... that red wine was strong 😂

[@sinc10]

As a key worker in medical research (for covid at least, that'd be my attempted get out) this is my preferred listening while at work so I could try and vouch for your key status!

[@amandamartin4357]

No they are flying them to Belfast.Then bussing them to Dublin.

[@RandallSlick]

I'm listening. Bugger all else to do in solitary.

[@Patchogs]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1474">24:34</a> oh my god I just realised Sunak reminds me of that Inbetweeners guy hahahaha

[@lougordon8168]

100% he sounds like Will

[@iechydda8764]

The rules are that you show ID to cross, but I've never been asked for it when walking on the ferry.

[@fang_xianfu]

I see why we need Ed there to play the straight man because the level of sarcasm and facetiousness in this podcast was off the charts 😂

[@tersecwalsingham5778]

Good stuff. 👍

[@RonWaffle02]

That blues shirt. My word ❤

[@mfahy9047]

I do wish politicians would get some damn numbers before opening their mouths. Anecdotal percentage-based migrant numbers just don't cut it.

[@diabl2master]

We need electoral reform.

[@tomhunter2426]

Switched,,off,, when the jam ,and the allotment was mentioned

[@honzawill]

Thanks!

[@rickatatastan2695]

Seaside resorts like Blackpool are all about travellers; Rollercoaster rides, Fortune tellers, Donkey Rides, Horses, Arcade Machines, etc etc. It's another great UK tradition the tories destroyed.

[@SarahTheNearlyInSP]

Erm... Oli Dugmore's a Bluenose...??!! How have I only just found this out....?? Happy days... well... 😨🤞🤞

[@Hill_Walker]

I didn't need my photo ID, much easier and more convenient to just use a postal vote.

[@jackoh991]

Yeah although I have changed my mind since I posted it oops

[@dangerforthebrain]

@@jackoh991 what did you vote for the greens?

[@jackoh991]

@@dangerforthebrain yes

[@shhsjjbbjs4224]

@@jackoh991i’m not sure exactly how it works so do check this and don’t just take my word for it but i think i remember seeing that you can actually cancel your postal vote after it’s sent and go to your polling station in person instead and cast a vote there? it would only work if you are able to get to your polling station tomorrow though (or potentially get an emergency proxy but i think the reasons for getting them so last minute may be quite limited) obviously entirely up to you but just thought i’d mention it :)

[@jackoh991]

@@shhsjjbbjs4224 thanks that's useful

[@Lea31706]

Penny looks like a hostage 😂

[@charlescutts2387]

😂

[@liamponsonby1862]

Loving the Blues top.

[@Theoneandonlyanojan]

I can confirm I am one of those 3 people that depends on this podcast

[@johndillinger5142]

What is wrong with the UK. We are gunna have to start making safe places for men. Good god.

[@MattHealey.]

Sadiq dropping the Jed Bartlett quote bomb.

[@ajayredonkulus6628]

"He's off because of PMS." Silence. "Peter mandelson..." And now Peter Mandelson is known to me as PMS.

[@OfficialWilly]

Nothing wrong with a spoiled ballot, deliberate choice to state no candidate is worthy of

[@Matt.Riley01]

I’ve just realised how alike Sadiq Khan and Jimmy Carr sound!

[@calebjones9116]

Missed out on the Peter MandelSon (PMS) joke there Ollie <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="960">16:00</a>

[@doyouevendraft]

Hey Ava. Is that a “sustainable” dress too?

[@ericpoeperic]

As a former baptist current methodist i am triggered 😂

[@roostah3575]

PMQs is just a shameful fucking disgrace to our entire nation. I despair 😩

[@michaellenehan1369]

Hay hay its the Dugmore.

[@DaveKett]

Oli Dugmore sniffed Sadiq Khans seat

[@MikeyRussell88]

I have my ID, and I know won't be voting for the blue or red teams in any ballot.

[@ConradW]

This button business is the only thing I can see now

[@MattBryanArt]

Oh my word. Ava! Hilarious.

[@NotThatOneThisOne]

Re-nay-g

[@dylanhough1653]

Ngl this was Sunak’s best PMQs, too late for him though

[@RegHoldsworth-ri7hh]

Keep them coming. You may just be the antidote to not being interested in politics, even my dog is slightly more informed on what's going on. He's mostly taken with dog type things.

[@beet6659]

Started watching this and saw your choice of t-shirt Ollie...such a shame.😂

[@ninjadudeofficial]

Shame about this season, but excellent shirt

[@AlastairScarr]

The sheer nerve of a Conservative Prime minister who has never done a hard days work in his life, lecturing ANYONE about hard work is just taking the piss. I don't understand why people just tell him to fuck-off when he goes on about hard work. Your average tory minister works a 5 hour day tops. I don't understand why people don't challenge him on this. I do more hard work in one week than you do all year Sunak. Would like to see more people in the media critique this. Ava you are spot on about Angela Raynor-its obvious Kid Starver wants her out of the party as she is just too left-wing and wedded to the idea of actually helping working -class people which doesn't square with Starmer's vision of the Labour party. The current Labour party seems to being run by Peter Mandleson, which is rarely a good idea. The Labour party are taking my (and a lot of other people's) vote for granted. Starmer why should I vote for you when you are not offering me anything? I will not be voting Labour until they start representing me and offering me an alternative politics to what the Conservatives offer. Labour need to start distancing themselves from the Conservative party. The true tragedy of the past 10 years in the Labour party, is that the Tories have now managed to move Labour so far to the right, that the differences between the two parties are essentially meaningless. As a traditional Labour voter Keir heed this well-I will not be voting for Labour until you are gone. Your infleunce is corrosive and sadly is helping to destroy the vessel you are contained in. This country needs a change, and progressive politics. The same old status Quo is just not good enough. Finally Ava you were a bit harsh on Ollie I think, - he seems an affable dude, can't see why he pissed you off so much. Did he nick your lunch from the fridge? Chill out.

[@edwardwilliamson1]

'Sisyphus weighed down by how dumb he is' lol

[@foehammer5047]

The thing that annoys me about Rishi's "people should be rewarded for hard work" is he thinks people will be adequately rewarded by an extra £500 or so. Wages have stagnated in comparison to inflation, never-ending productivity, and he thinks people will be rewarded by an extra 0.05%.

[@lngdstncdrmmr491]

Climate change deniers on Facebook often have cars, motorbikes or photos of them holding fish as profile pics.

[@ravimani5875]

If this podcast is Take That, Ed is Robbie Williams

[@tomhaldenby9681]

Ava is so fucking funny I love this podcast

[@RedSaint83]

From the get go with the Bee movie reference: "Do you like jam?"

[@Westlake72]

Hi Olie, Any thoughts on your LBC college Sangita Myska being sacked for holding an Israeli military spokesman to account?

[@Dnky27]

Have LBC silenced you Oli? Blink once for yes and twice for no.

[@melradford-lw6nd]

Guys if you vote postal vote you don’t need I’d thank you Tory’s

[@honzawill]

❤ nice one

[@GaZzErZz]

I assume ed is off trying to find some cranks in the wild

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

PMQ’s….. If ever there was an advertisement for Scottish Independence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺

[@giovannitodeschini7670]

Oli do you have any comments on your colleague Sangita Myska being let go from LBC for daring to challenge an Israeli spokesperson?

[@RandomnessTube.]

Ironic a leftie wearing a Linfield shirt. 😂😂😂

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

Angela Reneger

[@MattHealey.]

On what. Oh. Your made up thing

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

@@MattHealey. In fairness it's Starmer reneging on the workers' rights policies she announced. So she's being stitched up by him. But reneging in aggregate.

[@markemark449]

Renege is a bit strong, isn't it? “When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?” The economy is struggling, we are not in Kansas anymore. Angela ChangedHerMinder doesn't have quite the same bite to it though.

[@davidbates3057]

@@markemark449 Yeah, mate. The economy is in real bad baaaaad state. I mean, most top end corporations are making the largest profit margins of their existence and the wealth of UK billionaires is only up 1000% since 1990. Clearly we've all GOT to cut back. How else will the country sustain itself?

[@markemark449]

@@davidbates3057 There were some great years since 1990, but the music is slowing. We can't use China and India as cheap labour to prop us up anymore, they are out-competing us for direct foreign investment themselves. Just look at our national debts these days in the West. Not sustainable living on borrowed money imho. I agree the wealthy have taken too much for themselves, but they aren't stupid, their money will vanish into the global system very quickly if we tried to tax wealth directly.

[@albertbrammer9263]

Still no golden boy?

[@nickb4541]

Has anyone thought "this is not our fucking problem"?

[@BakedBeansontoast74]

🐟🐟🐟🐟🐋🐋🐋🐋🐳🐳 get better soon Ed

[@BlizardCrow101]

Have Sangita Myska on, without Ollie obviously I guess.

[@kieranclarges2514]

Has anyone ever seen Sunak apologize for anything?

[@BakedBeansontoast74]

Do we know if Ed is also repulsed by whales and dolphins?

[@markemark449]

Fish who can't breath underwater are a ridiculous abomination.

[@valentineshearman8583]

Ruh-NAY-ging

[@paulkerr2654]

Lower taxes and better services? High as a fucking kite

[@iknowstringtheory]

"Ren-ay-g"

[@arma21regency]

24 minutes for a 5k is a good time Ava, go girl

[@gchelem]

They can launch conscription all they want no way I let my son fight for the Israeli or the Ukrainians. Sunak can send his children if he wants or he can go himself. Hope he won’t come back.

[@jaymate4556]

Sunak is basically Littlefinger

[@AlastairScarr]

More like Goldfinger I think........Robbing the country dry by asset stripping then buggering off abroad.

[@andypeutherer4218]

Yelp 😆 🤣 😂

[@FRM101]

Safiq seems a rather amicable fellow, the bit about his daughters was funny enough, but check the stats (crime, housing etc), amd you'll find he's simply not good chief-executive.

[@FRM101]

It's real and it bears his name: Pension Scheme for Keir Starmer QC (Regulation 2013) states Sir Keir is exempt from paying tax on pensions over £1m. How on earth can he oppose this for everyone else?

[@_xeere]

I'm somewhat glad Keir has watered down the New Deal because it me feel more justified in hating him. Before I thought "this guy is terrible, but at least there's still one good policy". Now I can hate him without reservation.

[@FRM101]

They skipped the bit about Sir Keir's special pension law that bears his name and benefits EXCLUSIVELY him. It's real, look it up.

[@p1stonbroke]

@ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2300">38:20</a> you talk about dog lovers and r4cism... please be aware this only applies to certain categories of dogs.... typically those which are accessorised by large chains and leather harnesses, and walk (much like their owners) as if they have had an accident in their sweat pants.

[@roostah3575]

Gullis is just a thug.

[@PoliticsClive-wt1gv]

not enoughs caans in the episode, sort it out PJ

[@matthewpenman6162]

hi ed. where is ed

[@badgersgetabadname]

Conor mcgregor being the alt right piped piper for incels nerds a discussion

[@finianlacy8827]

Stop this boring code..zzzz