Unicorn Overlord Early Game Class Tier List & Analysis (EXPERT) | Varsona

[@RobCartwright]

You're sleeping on Cleric.

[@CrossoftheRavens]

Agreed. Cleric + Lyrical rod is nuts. Various rods available are absurd.

[@Varsona]

This tier list doesn't include any items or equipments or specific setups. I do think clerics will only get better the further you go into the game

[@sombrego2260]

To be frank a tier list that doesn't take into account gear doesn't make a lot of sense it's as important as party composition. Some classes can become really op just with the right gear. I get your stance but at the same time if you really think about it I don't think it makes sense. Then why taking into account the fact that some units are synergizing well with others? It's on the same level in my opinion as what gear they equip. ​@@Varsona

[@Varsona]

​@sombrego2260 I mention that the synergies exist but the synergies mentioned have no impact on the rating -> A class rated highly can work well on any team while a class rated lower can be amazing support pieces or have great potential with the right setup. I wanted to provide a list for "splashable versatile units" while giving fun ideas for new players to experiment with 😄 With the cleric example; out of the box they are great at healing but not much else. Other units like soldiers, paladins and radiant knights out the box can also do that, and more. In the context of the demo, players will have free access to 2 of the 3 very early on. No doubt tho; cleric is going to be amazing and pivotal to later encounters past the demo.

[@rail7646]

it's not really that nuts honestly, its a one time ap battery, cleric is pretty bland and the promoted version might be worth something, I find it unfair to compare it to the paladin since that is already a promoted class, I tried to fit cleric anywhere but couldn't find a valid spot, at level 10 it gets some utility to heal a row of status effects which can counter shamans but thats probably the best part, what is really useful tho in some crazy fights is the passive heal you can give with cleric as the leader to all your squads, without actually using the unit, just parking in the background as a single lonely cleric xd@@CrossoftheRavens

[@DeliciousOrange]

The thing about Fighter, Hunter, and Hoplite that you're not taking into account is their ability to utilize items with AP actions. Other units typically have great AP actions and don't want to use a weapon with a new attack to replace their built-in combo, but by the virtue of their kits being so vanilla they can use those weapons to suddenly breathe new life into their class and do wild things that other classes just won't do.

[@chadachi3970]

Yeah especially if you pair them together for certain combos. I've brute forced through Hoplites with Fighter + Hunter by giving them the poison sword and flame bow since Hoplites will just eat that free damage trying to protect their allies. Other sword classes just need their own actions more or at least get way more utility out of them, Hunter's do get double shot later down the line but again if you're in the situation where it's not really gonna do much then Flame bow adds that extra damage to help bust through Phys defense. Hoplite with magic lance is just, yeah it's the only class that really gets anything out of it, I'd prefer Soldier to hit both rows or Knight to keep using Assaulting Thrust. Housecarl I assume will be in a similar boat, but they don't seem to have any utility weapons at least in the Demo.

[@degreeskelvin3025]

The thing is you could just throw the utility weapons on someone else, and set them to use them in specific circumstances in the tactics menu. Fighters anti-range skill is actually really good tho later on when there are lots of ranged enemies. Its literally the difference between life or death for flyers and dodgetanks

[@gjfwang]

@@degreeskelvin3025 exactly. The demo just doesn't have many flying units and flying units generally have ranged attacks.. So what is atop the tier lists? Classes like knights that get countered by flying units. What is low on the tier? Units like archers and fighters with their arrowguard.

[@curtismanning6129]

Nice list ! Radiant Knights and Sellswords are my favorite from the demo

[@williamp8823]

Hunter is also a really good early counter to mages, thieves and other hunters. Also maybe it was just me but I played through the game on tactical and Rolf’s valor skill could one shot any squishier units, plus he does soooo much damage and has such amazing map control on a tower. I definitely would have made them a tier.

[@ELPONCHILLOOOO]

I think gladiators and hoplite are really underrated. I'm not saying they're tier S, but they are a lo better than people think. A defensive unit can be built offensively or enable other more offensive units. There are some items that generate offense from defensive abilities (For example: Citadel's Guard Sabatons and Counter Belt). And you can also add a sellsword or a warrior which synergizes very well with defensive units to that comp and you won't be lacking damage at all. It's really early, there are a lot of combinations left to try and optimize.

[@Varsona]

For sure. I should have mentioned that hoplites and gladiators are a huge part of a well-oiled machine. On their own they have glaring weaknesses but in a team they can really catapault themselves to MVP status

[@hjge1012]

When fighter shines (aka never), they really shine.

[@Varsona]

🤣 rip Lex

[@sombrego2260]

Fighters can be honestly really good it's just that naked they are less strong than others at low level but you start getting good items after like 15 minutes of gameplay.

[@xXMGVXx]

@@sombrego2260 Arrow Cover is really good. Warding slash is really bad on the other hand. If you want your fliers to be able to run into archers and not care you just need to bring a fighter. If you avoid projectiles with your fliers, fighters have very little else to bring to the table. Warding slash has the unfortunate timing to go after the attacks where the defense buff would have been useful and before the heavy hits where it does not matter. Shield bash is pretty solid but has very low damage. It is a bit sad that they have no way to convert their solid attack stats into actual damage without a weapon with an active skill. The graphic for the housecarls is the one for the fighters in the video. I appreciate a collection of all the skills in the demo. First version of this I have seen.

[@sombrego2260]

@@xXMGVXx true but items with effects are far from being rare. You get one in the lowest available mission after the tutorial and from there you get more and more. In terms of raw stats fighters are pretty good. You might notice that enemy fighters are often one of the most annoying type of unit to kill because they are quite bulky and have no major weakness. The fact that they are very average can actually help them a lot. Fighters are just the most reliable on items to perform which would suck in another game but in this one you end up with more than you can equip pretty fast so it's not that much of an issue.

[@rail7646]

I liked every economy class which could be abused in certain setups, so knights as the early game king followed up by the absolute crazy sellswords, warriors and even swordfighter melee tanks they don't have a endless loop but they can transfer pp into ap and have 100% hit and crit with their active attack, I love synergetic units. Oh well and then we have stuff like the gladiator which looks good at first but I have never managed to make them work. So overall a good tierlist I would say. Maybe hoplites should be ranked a bit higher, with Radiant Knight Magic Protection they are pretty much gods and they give chefkiss' left and right to sellswords all night.

[@MidnightBlackandVictoria]

Its crazy to think there are another 50 plus classes that you don't see in the demo.....Not counting story character exclusive classes.

[@beegee4988]

Yea fair few more which is exciting! only let down is that is appears each class only has 1 advancement - would be cool to have multiple. But like you said there is heaps so a lot of tinkering and strategies still!

[@GodleyX]

And if it's anything like March of the black queen then some of the classes are going to be cool like lizard people or other kinds of non-human characters, though that game had a really weird alignment system where your class changed depending on if you're a good evil or neutral

[@CBranchArts]

We have to wait one whole week. This is killing me

[@Trokthar]

the skills you showed during housecarl were the fighter skills

[@Varsona]

Ty for the heads up!

[@CaptainZlex]

I love sticking Fighters with my flyers and comboing Hoplites with Warriors/Housecarls.

[@tezereth]

I was about to disagree on some stuff but I just remembered I did a demo run mercenaries only so a lot of stuff was pretty different from normal playthrough (no bonus xp or valour from the MC for exemple) Edit : Hoplite in C rank is a crime

[@MarKMacias619]

Dudes im feeling lot of people has be wrong whith some classes, especialy , the defensive classes, for example gladiator or Hoplite, in fact, its true for the case of an HYPEROffensive team can beat things after even can react, but for some teams : For example : Ranger Assist Focuses (Magic,Healing,Arrows) i think you dont want one round enemies, i hope the funtion of a unit in a Tower is assist and be sure to not die. My Facts are the following : 1. When you beat the game you unlock (True Zenorian) Difficulty : When a Squad is wipe all inside characters are Perma-Death, but not individual deaths - For this reason, things like revive or other skills gonna be great 2. The Stamina System is a Little Cheeseable in the demo, but later prob you gonna need squads(Assist Leaders) that support your others, So the funtion of this teams i think is STAY Alive to Support, not OneRound-Every, That is for your sweepers 3. I feel Things like this comps are near unkileable , and can support a lot : - (Heal Assist) : Cleric + Gladiator + ShellSword + Shaman : He can survive more than 3 fights easy, and can support and using it stamina for Support - (Arrow) : Ranger + Radiand + Hoplite : Hoplite only covering PP for Phy not Mag, and a Radiant for the Opposite, the 4º or 5º slot can be other things But i feel some teams dont need one round or full potencial kill enemies, only survive in case of engage a battle without other allie than can fight near For sure its more funny build a Party capable of one round the mayor enemies posible, but i feel Tierlisting unit for killing potential is not the true value of complex in this game Tanks for reading me, beside i dont say you or any are wrong its merely my opnion, and its true for the clases like knight w a Killing Loop Feels more powerfull than a Hoplite, but beside of this, i think all Squads have funtions :)

[@kusolp544]

cleric can be a manace, cause u wont die. im pretty sure debuffs will be a bigger thing in the game like shamans or other classes. so she weill be even more great. and ofc with the 2ap healing staff

[@cheyennealvis8284]

I was looking at one of the fight scenes and I was like HOLY CHRIST!!! then I realized that was just streetfighter lol

[@zach4281]

hearing your song choices I was expecting to see some fighting game content somewhere on your channel

[@Varsona]

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[@jhon1406]

I find housecarl to be A in early game since they can heal stamina as a valor skill

[@twigz3214]

I think the dancers Braclet is wasted on the Witch. Their skill directly just adds 50 magic potency to the attack which is more or less always better than 20% more attack, especially with aoe attacks. Think they make far better use of a lapis pendent to just use magic conferral twice to buff 2 units and a dove plume to instantly freeze something than to waste their accessories on anything else. If you’re not using aoe attacks I’d also currently argue Wizard is just better, if you really need shut down I’d use Shaman and if you need damage Wizard is going to add a lot more. If you don’t make great use of magic conferral the witch feels a lot worse, making them fantastic with Griffins but lacking with allies who hit one target. We’ll see the whole picture with the full release though, so this is more 1st impressions than an exhaustive review.

[@nick25oo]

I fully agree with your point. Also only one skill of the same type can be activated on a single unit unless it says otherwise, so technically dancer bracelet and magick conferral can’t work at the same time because they both activate before attacking. One last thing, there a witch only item in the witches tower behind the shop in the swamp. It a fun item with cleave attacks.

[@nick25oo]

Really Good Tier list. I do think you should specify if you’re rating them with or without items because you sorta did a fusion of both and that changes the entire tier list, one example is that hunter is the only character that can really deal with dodge tanks for 90% of the demo if you don’t count items. My version of the tier list without items would probably have Gryphon knight, solder, shaman, and warrior all drop down one tier. Then have Cleric, housecarl, and gladiator move up one tier. If you also add items on top of that then all classes move up one tier outside of lord and Cleric, with items cleric move straight up to OP tier and in the current demo no item really make the lord that much better then he is at base out side of the cavalry shield/ magic sword and even that iffy.

[@Varsona]

Thanks! I do mention items and synergies but they did not have an impact on my rating. I'm hoping that mentioning it would be beneficial to generate teambuilding ideas for the less experienced/new players to the game 😄 I thought the same with hunters but I was dealing with dodge tanks like thiefs easier with things like swordfighter true strike, shaman stripping pp or sellswords out-actioning evade procs. Hunters to me seem much better if you do take into account items and synergies, especially since they can dual shot and followup on allies later on. With some of the early bows you get, it's pretty strong!

[@nick25oo]

@@Varsona I get your viewpoints on situation but it was sorta unclear during the video because items were being brought up and that made me second guess on if items were being used or not because it was never clearly stated. This problem didn’t really happen a lot. I also wouldn’t count sellswords or shamans as counters to dodge tanks because sellsword loses there PP when the miss attacks so they get counter by dodge tanks and while shamans do take away PP from units, the thief class can steal multiple PP back with there very high initiative, so losing one PP rarely matters in that situation. I fully agree with your hunter takes though but without items hunter is the only dodge tank counter for most of the game demo unless you skip pass everything to get sword fighter and even then you need to level up a bit to get them. I am not saying the class is super great, just that they are uncontested in there unique area for a good amount of time.

[@Boarbatrice]

There’s a radiant knight merc available after a fairly low level liberation map

[@Varsona]

Oh nice! Ty for the tip 😘

[@othergrimm6592]

Ochlys is pronounced 'oak-lease', not 'oak-lis'. 😛 I agree with the list, for the most part. I haven't seen Swordfighters or Radiant Knights yet (other than Miriam), and I hadn't played with Sellsword much, but all the others are about where I would have put them (I might have bumped Hoplite up a rank though).

[@advkow]

I think you showed the wrong skill list for Housecarl

[@Varsona]

Oh no! I did :( Thanks for the heads-up

[@CASetnaro]

really good list! a lot better than the other one i seen. also i didn't realize soldiers valor skill was so useful. i benched them early because they were so meh. but this might make me redeploy one in a squad somewhere. also personally i'd switch warrior and soldier. warrior unguardable is so useful and it has such high dmg. you can put counter belt on him so that his pp is used on something a little more useful since he already oneshots something that would be guarding.

[@collin542]

he random sf6 clip of you beating sonic sol is funny for some reason

[@ThePaulineu]

How can we program characters to attack the back row?

[@Varsona]

If it is a ranged attacks, putting in [prioritize back row] and making that higher on the list will do it. If melee, front row has to be dead first

[@ThePaulineu]

@@Varsona Thank you!

[@donniecupples6721]

Fighters do have a weakness, they are week to magic just the same as hoplites

[@rafaelpedrini]

Housecarl unit abilitie table is wrong in your video, pls check at 6:40

[@Varsona]

Noted! Thanks for the heads up

[@TwitchGDeLL]

do we know anything about the online mode?

[@Varsona]

Apparently it's PvP?

[@ramstab]

where do you find this game? I can’t find it on steam

[@Varsona]

Sadly it's not on pc :( there is a demo on ps5 and switch afaik

[@ramstab]

it’s console only, I just had to google it, it looks nice, I’ll play the demo tomorrow!

[@rotonek2887]

Just use emulator

[@jamesgordon1446]

You’re forgetting Lex teir. Ie F. Way below a standard fighter.

[@CrimsonBladezz]

He’s trash it doesnt matter what i put on him

[@SytrickZero]

fr why is lex so bad

[@timce9220]

@@SytrickZeroNot even finished with the demo and I don’t know if it’s a joke and he’s secretly OP but he is ass

[@SytrickZero]

@@timce9220 I've gotten a bit farther into the main game (20 hours), and he starts having more utility later on. Enemies later on have much more attacks that count as ranged (flying melee counts as ranged) and his full negation of ranged damage on allies becomes notable. His class's promotion also offers a PP skill that can taunt enemies to protect the backline quite well. Perhaps he is better than we thought.

[@gnen7680]

Gladiator C? i dont think so

[@CrimsonBladezz]

More like D

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

Ive got to disagree with gladiator spot. The have AOE and the high HP and % healing auto. Hire two with boon to HP and offense. Slap them in the front line and set their heal to trigger when under 75% health to increase their longevity. Give them the two available vitality braces and the two accuracy glasses. Then set their wide strike to hit rows with 2 or more and use a weapon skill for single enemies if available. They're slow and dont guard, so pair with something like magic/poison thief for their dodge tank and ability to take down armors. They become super tanky, hardly miss, self healing, and dish out a lot of damage Edit: More you can do with a 4 set team as well. Healer and fighter with a magic/poison weapon work well. Fighter to guard a healer who can heal the fighter and beat debuffs and a fighter to guard the healer and take on hoplites