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Roxy Deserved Better

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Unicorn of War - Thomas Vaccaro

Unicorn of War - Thomas Vaccaro

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@anaribeiro6615
@anaribeiro6615 Жыл бұрын
They really lost an opportunity of making Roxy connect with Flora, it would be the logical option since both have strong connections to nature and could bond over that
@IzzyQueen12
@IzzyQueen12 Жыл бұрын
Flora and Roxy should’ve been besties in a similar way to Bloom and Stella. Like Flora and Roxy are like Flora and Fauna while Bloom and Stella is like fire and light
@Victoria-_
@Victoria-_ Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@a.m.c.c.3356
@a.m.c.c.3356 Жыл бұрын
Flora and Roxy: Nature come to us HOWL OF THE FOREST
@Autistic_Changeling
@Autistic_Changeling Жыл бұрын
Flora's the group mom while Roxy's the group baby. It's the logical conclusion for those two to be close. I also really like the idea of Roxy being a potty mouth and Flora trying to get her to swear less.
@IzzyQueen12
@IzzyQueen12 Жыл бұрын
@@Autistic_Changeling YES OMG I LOVE THAT
@katwin8945
@katwin8945 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if they never wanted to make Roxy more important character they would just make her stay on Earth, perhaps going to the school for Earth Fairies. They had many options and go with probably the hardest for them
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool if they made S5 about Roxy adjusting to Alfea. Or give her own spin off series that by it's conclusion the continuity would go into the canon S5 timeline. They could even use the canon comic material.
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
Honestly,i think it's likely that because of how much the BC fucked up things,there wouldn't BE any kind of schools or anything else that can support a magic society/infrastructure for a LONG time. Remember that the BC's goals was totally eliminating any form of magic. It's a not a stretch that schools would be one of the first things they would target to make sure it can't come back. And while the Earth fairies could help in rebuilding,they'd most likely be more focused on unfucking their own kingdoms. So that would be a good reason why Roxy goes to Alfea,BUT that would require that the writers acknowledged that S1-4 matter and focused on the Earth magic returning plot. But yeah,i don't why they bothered with sending Roxy to Alfea they weren't going to do jackshit with her.
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Жыл бұрын
@@infinitedreamer9359 same reason that Mirta and Daphne ended up there despite not doing bugger-all with them. I've no idea what that reason is, though.
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Starting with S5 continuity didn't matter anyway, as it was straight up ignored. Got ya.
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
Really though,that was one of the main problems I had with S4's ending.The show paints it as a happy one.The girls defeat the big bad and ride off into the sunset,but Earth is a literal clusterfuck waiting to happen. Not only is magic coming back to a society that is NOT prepared for it in the slightest,but the fairy queens who would helping the Earth transition would likely be too busy unfucking their own kingdoms to really deal with this for a long time. The Winx Club don't offer to give any sort of aid to the Earth Fairies and it make them look like assoles tbh.
@berryavatar
@berryavatar Жыл бұрын
Not giving Roxy butterflix is like not giving Aisha sirenix, or Flora sophix.
@a.m.c.c.3356
@a.m.c.c.3356 Жыл бұрын
Ironically both happened
@davidmihai863
@davidmihai863 Жыл бұрын
If u watched Winx, u will see why, She didn't had any transformations either, just her base form...
@berryavatar
@berryavatar Жыл бұрын
@@davidmihai863 I have been a winx fan for ages, so yeah I do know
@davidmihai863
@davidmihai863 Жыл бұрын
@@berryavatar im glad to hear that, but its impossible to give her the butterflix because She didn't had the Enchantix...
@davidmihai863
@davidmihai863 Жыл бұрын
@Will N i think She isnt, She isnt either a charmix fairy. Every fairy has a different style or whatever. If She rlly was, She could do what Winx did, like to earn the gifts etc. But She didn't had any of these or spells to believ others in magic, so She isnt
@stefanmaart
@stefanmaart Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted Roxy to follow in Bloom footsteps yes she's apart of the club but she would go to Alfea and make friends of her own introducing some new friends and faces into the club creating some new dynamics. While the OG winx girls are of doing the guardian fairy thing and continuing there lives on Earth Roxy and her mini Winx club would be in the magic universe having there own adventures with the two teams occasionally helping each other out the older girl's mentoring the younger and the younger girls providing support where necessary. Such a missed opportunity Roxy deserved so much better.
@tama3162
@tama3162 Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought the show would do moving forward from S4 too because *it was right there.* To me, that's what it felt like the season was building up towards: the Winx mentoring or at least inspiring the next generation of Guardian Fairies, starting with Roxy. I feel like the near-universal wish of the fandom wanting Roxy to become a 7th Winx was from that: wanting to see Roxy become an active main character, much like how Bloom was in S1. Even if the Winx couldn't actively mentor her because they all have several different things going on with them (Guardian Fairy duties, half of them being crown princesses, etc) Roxy could still aspire to be like them and form her own club. Find her own friends and her own footing in this new magical world _with Earth involved._ Season 4 had so much build up to a generational-type of story and it would've been perfect for the series too. Roxy's adventures for all the newcomers and the Winx just getting to live their adult lives being Guardian Fairies would've kept the fans who grew up with them. Like, it's actually baffling that they _didn't_ take this route for the show.
@DISNEYLOVE362
@DISNEYLOVE362 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking💯💯give Roxy her own fairy group💯💯that would’ve been the perfect storyline tbh as much as a love Roxy I’ve never really seen her as the 7th member(only because she was younger then the rest of the girls) I’ve always thought of her as a pupil
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 Жыл бұрын
Winx next gen?
@Hello-Hello28
@Hello-Hello28 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was doing a rewrite of the Winx and it starts off like this
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 5 ай бұрын
Same. NGL I seriously thought maybe Roxy would make her own friends at Alphea and possibly their own club. I never really thought of her being a Winx member, especially because she’s younger and her powers are on a much lower level (no I don’t care if Earth fairies magic works differently than the Magical Dimension’s magic)
@novastarburst3939
@novastarburst3939 Жыл бұрын
I don't know for the others but I liked Roxy because she was human, she was relatable. Her annoyance towards the winx, the fact she was denying the magic and refused to leave all her normal life for an unknown magic school was also normal, Roxy was the mature character Bloom should have been instead of a naive girl following the first weird stranger she met. I also liked that in the cartoon ( I know there's Manuel in the comic) there's no freaking love drama around Roxy. It's refreshing compared to the winx. And I really liked the way she used her powers since the start, she did very well for beginnings. Also when you mentioned Griffin could have be a mentor for her, why not Roxy discovering she's more into witch magic and becoming a good witch, following Griffin's steps? Instead of having the bad ol' fairies= good, witches = mean & weak.
@ginogiometti7422
@ginogiometti7422 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure she didn't? I actually think I remember something like her boyfriend and it wasn't comics for sure
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I would've been fairly unhappy if *Roxy* was the one who went against the "witches bad and useless" stereotype. Y'know, since they already had that character ready to go from the start of the series and just decided not to make it work back then.
@forevermore9431
@forevermore9431 Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed Blooms excitement. I never really understood the whole "Oh no I have magic powers, I don't want it"-Trope. Bloom was so much more relatable.
@novastarburst3939
@novastarburst3939 Жыл бұрын
@@ginogiometti7422 Nah, normally her bf only appears in the comics. In the serie she barely appears herself, maybe we could see her chatting with a guy during a party but nothing more.
@novastarburst3939
@novastarburst3939 Жыл бұрын
@@forevermore9431 Maybe for you, but the first normal reaction is searching for the prank cam when 6 strange women dressed like clowns come and tell you you're a fairy, then follow you. Or the police.
@christianthrasher8677
@christianthrasher8677 Жыл бұрын
Roxy needs her own show
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Жыл бұрын
That would be a perfect spin off idea not that trash that was World of winx 💀
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
I have no clue why Rainbow hasn't done this. not just with Roxy/earth magic returning,but with other characters/underdeveloped WC worldbuilding. Like,I bet there would be at least some interest in a show about the Specialists or the witches. WC is a verse that has lots of untapped potential to expand on through spinoffs. Yet, when Rainbow is constantly milking the series,including a liveaction series no one asked for,doing animated spinoffs like this doesn't come to mind.WHY?!
@a.t.trujillo9970
@a.t.trujillo9970 Жыл бұрын
To be honest yeah she does she needs her own show that is a spin-off series for Winx Club this would have been really good and see them five where they shoved her to the background where we could have actually known how her school life was at Althea instead of knowing nothing and just assuming it was basically mediocre
@starryskies113
@starryskies113 Жыл бұрын
@@akiinmoonlight79 hey it was alright! S8 is the real trash
@starryskies113
@starryskies113 Жыл бұрын
@@akiinmoonlight79 only s8 comic is better than show
@tarynhite7976
@tarynhite7976 Жыл бұрын
I always wished the Winx maybe went the same route as Power Rangers. Let the characters grow and become mentors, and then hand off the Winx title to the next generation. Like, season 7 could have been Roxy coming into her own as a leader, maybe recruiting some new fairies from the freshmen at Alfea. It keeps the cast young, and lets the older characters actually have plot development!
@sophietessier8998
@sophietessier8998 Жыл бұрын
I agree !!! I would die for a idian and darkskin fairies. And i would also like adding krystal and nova, my fav side character. And in my deepest dream diaspro finaly having a redemption arc
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that was the best way they could've continued the show post S4. Have the OG Winx graduate and live their lives,while a new gen of Alfea students are focused on. They were already targeting the younger crowd who aren't likely to have watch the OG WC,so why not? probably because they couldn't let go of the WC characters popularity.
@sofitssofi
@sofitssofi Жыл бұрын
If you want that power rangers franchise dynamic but with magical girls, try PreCure. Power Rangers (Super Sentai) is made by the same company Toei and there are even a couple mini crossovers :D
@snatchingcareers4681
@snatchingcareers4681 Жыл бұрын
I WANT THAT! I always thought they’d go down that route after season 4 with the winx heading back to Alfea to be teachers. I thought they would start mentoring the next generation.
@canoistercat
@canoistercat Жыл бұрын
fr im tired of having bloom as the main character in the cast
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes Жыл бұрын
They could have EASILY made a Winx spin off series where Roxy was the protagonist and made a group of friends inside Alfea. Heck, they could introduce more stereotypes for girls to relate to. Where Musa is a tomboy, Roxy could be friends with a girl that’s a sports fanatic (more so than Aisha lol). And where Tecna is really nerdy, Roxy could have a friend that’s into comics, anime, etc. it would open up new doors both for new plots and more representation! Speaking of representation, I don’t know if this idea has been pitched before and I don’t know if it’s close minded or not. I thought it would be cool if Roxy were Native American coded or coded in any native culture that places a lot of value and emphasis on animals (such as having spirit animals). This could also work as Polynesian. But I feel like that may make the writers too tempted to draw in ocean/water themes. And we all know that’s already Aisha’s department. Idk, that was just an idea that came to mind when I saw people wanted more representation and we got basically Tecna 2.0.
@xoderota
@xoderota Жыл бұрын
...oh you're right. That's a great point. Because even though other characters could be coded as poc, I think since Roxy is from Earth, it could add another layer to her character if she was ACTUALLY native. But idk, I'm not native myself so I'm not sure how good the representation would be
@chenillesagoe6348
@chenillesagoe6348 Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea of Roxy having her own group of friends...Winx Club 2.0
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes Жыл бұрын
@@chenillesagoe6348 It would’ve given the team both the freedom to let the original six members continue to grow up while not alienating the younger fanbase as they’d have their own stories to grow up with! And that would also mean that the original group wouldn’t need like 50 transformations. The newer gens of Winx Clubs would be given some of the later ones 🙌 But alas… hindsight is 20/20…
@nicatina
@nicatina Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would have love for her to be Native American coded because spirit animals belong to the Natives' culture and her powers relate to that!
@tama3162
@tama3162 Жыл бұрын
I SWEAR I've seen Native American Roxy edits somewhere - I wish I could find them so bad, but that'd be so cool! All the other Earth Fairies could be coded as natives to their domains too like how Diana already seems to be coded as a native Amazonian. If they really really wanted to, the Black Circle could've been an even more overt play on conquerors, since, y'know, they wanted to eradicate all magic on Earth so their own magic would reign unopposed. And yeah, the connections to animals would've wrote themselves. It would've been an interesting perspective for all of the Winx since none of them would be familiar with that kind of natural connection, except maybe Flora (or Bloom if you want to stretch how important her time on Pyros was with Maya was). PLUS, it could work with the other seasons themes! The environmental messaging of Seasons 5 and 7, and the myths of Season 6. The Earth myths could be pulled from Native ones that maybe Roxy would be familiar with and would be learning about in a whole new way because they turned out to be real magic phenomena or something!
@Galistarwater
@Galistarwater Жыл бұрын
There were already warning signs of her not being part of the Winx Club back in season 4: they didn't give her Sophix and Lovix or any of the three special Believix wings. They left her out of the jungle adventure into Diana's queendom. Even Stella made a point that they should have brought Roxy along. It's as if Rainbow was afraid that fans wouldn't like her if they fully intergrated her into the club like they did for Aisha in season 2. All in all, Roxy is my favorite Winx, and she truly deserves better. Season 5 would have been great for her with all the aquatic animals. Season 6, too, with there being so many mythical creatures. And we know season 7 was practically themed around her power.
@Idkacutename123
@Idkacutename123 Жыл бұрын
She could've also been useful in season 8. To make the season more entertaining and less underwhelming, The Winx could've encountered different alien animals who are roaming around the cosmos, protecting the stars and Roxy could've been the one taking care of them each time as she's the fairy of fucking animals. And just like u mentioned earlier, Roxy could've been extremely useful in s5 as she could've used an army of aquatic animals against Tritannus, The Trix and even Politea just like Tritannus used against the winx even though his army wasn't even an army and it was rlly lame. Don't even get me started about s7 and how useful she could've been. In conclusion, Rainbow could've easily kept the Winx at alfea but as teachers just like at the beggining of s4, and Roxy could've been their student, as she also evolves as a fairy and develops more and more magical powers across as the show alongside the winx. Also, that way, we could've rlly gotten a solid explanation on the earth fairies, what transformations they can obtain and all. S4 had a lot of wasted potential and the show could've been even better if Roxy would've been included trough s5-8
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, I wasn’t into her at first, for a couple of reasons. So I understand their concerns. But if you’re going to develop a character and include her so often, and make a storyline that involves her significantly in a Bloom position (but w/ a more interesting personality tbh), you can’t half ass it and not include her more. She was a cool character who has a lot going for her. I came to really like her, so they spent all that time developing someone and then discarded her. Just sucks.
@Idkacutename123
@Idkacutename123 Жыл бұрын
@@ma.2089 exactly! That's probably why I kinda dislike season 4. Cuz they literally introduced another main character but this time Roxy was actually the main focus not Bloom and then they completely erased her after s4. It just doesn't make sense and it's bullshit cuz if u think about it, if Rainbow made that deal with Nickelodeon after season 2, then they would've probably erased Aisha too-
@starryskies113
@starryskies113 Жыл бұрын
@@Idkacutename123 o
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 5 ай бұрын
Same. Actually there is one episode where Roxy has the teleportation wings from Believix (the one with the train) but otherwise she doesn’t use/know about fairy dust to “brainwash” humans into believing in magic, she doesn’t use the wings and Bloom literally says in the Diana episode Roxy isn’t a Believix fairy and it was too dangerous for her to come (despite Aurora’s kingdom was arguably more dangerous, but whatever) But also, Roxy’s hair doesn’t change either, and imo her outfit is a little too simple and revealing to be Believix, its more Winx (base form) I never thought she was meant to be in the club after S4 and she’d make her own friends at Alphea and be a freshman fairy. But I don’t mind the idea of Roxy becoming a member AFTER earning her Enchantix powers (don’t really care about Charmix tbh) because I was royally p*ssed Roxy’s Enchantix NEVER appeared in the show. WTF?! And it was made even more insulting when she didn’t get Butterflix and then got tricked by the most annoying villain in the entire series to “shame on her for not listening to Bloom, despite Bloom needs to stop acting like she’s right about everything”
@andioop486
@andioop486 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know this side of KZbin existed. Your winx videos give me so much comfort, literally brings me back to my childhood. Maybe it’s time for a rewatch 🥹
@silnanolk3977
@silnanolk3977 Жыл бұрын
I went through this after the full Enchantix version was released by Lucia Miccinilli xD Never a mistake to reconnect with positive things from our past :)
@tomsparrow1823
@tomsparrow1823 Жыл бұрын
I think if they wanted to make the secret princess Roxy thing make more sense it's an easy fix, rather than "She didn't display her magical powers yet", the much more reasonable thing for a wise and powerful fairy queen to do is use her foresight and cast a spell that would hide Roxy's existence from the dark circle, that way when they came for the last fairy on earth they'd only find her.
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
That does make more sense.
@starryskies113
@starryskies113 Жыл бұрын
Ya
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 Жыл бұрын
I would like it if maybe Bloom's magical presence could've thrown them off course too, but that requires that they were actually aware of her existence at the time, and it probably requires some retcons.
@tomsparrow1823
@tomsparrow1823 Жыл бұрын
@greenstarlover1 oooo I didn't even consider that! But that does bring up interesting questions I didn't think about before like, since the Winx are clearly older than Roxy that means Bloom would have been on earth the same time Morgana and Roxy were, and although we know she was the latest of bloomers (haha bloomer) her magic is still the most powerful in all the dimensions, you'd think that'd ping on the circle's radar even if they wouldn't be able to track it back to her. And that's not even bringing up Selena from the Mythix season who's retcon into Bloom's Gardenia backstory pokes so many holes in the logic of absolutely everything.
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 Жыл бұрын
​@@tomsparrow1823 if I were to rewrite this to make sense, I would make the black circle a constant threat to Bloom's childhood, which have mistaken her for the last earth fairy from the moment she was appeared on Earth in that fire. They would try to basically assassinate her throughout her entire life, under the guise of everyday accidents to avoid unwanted suspicion. Bloom would always manage to avoid them completely unaware some way or another through sheer luck (and plot armor). But this ironically enough gave her an unlucky reputation among her peers, and thus was prone to immense bullying, mainly from Mitzy. And then she met Stella and fucked off to Alfea for 3 years, disappearing off the circle's radar completely until the start of S4.
@MJ-98
@MJ-98 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be interesting to have Roxy's color be yellow. Before all the color swaps, we had : Musa/red, Stella/orange, Aisha/green, Bloom/blue, Tecna/purple. So having Roxy being yellow would fulfill the rainbow spectrum.
@mirac8803
@mirac8803 Жыл бұрын
You're right! This show doesn't reaaaally care about character development and continuity though from Season 4/5 onwards :(
@fedjamrndic4017
@fedjamrndic4017 7 ай бұрын
You forgot flora/ pink
@L0V3000
@L0V3000 Жыл бұрын
In Season 9, I hope there's an episode dedicated to underprivileged fairies like Roxy, Miele, Mirta, etc. Maybe have them save Alphea while the Winx are on a mission or vacation.
@rhettmitchell
@rhettmitchell Жыл бұрын
Miele goes to the school in Lynphea though so idk how they’d get her to show up
@L0V3000
@L0V3000 Жыл бұрын
@Rhett Mitchell Diaspro was banished but somehow became Eraklyon's liason, The Winx were turned back to students after graduation, and we were told Roxy was the last Earth fairy when magic was gone but then Selina came to be. My point is this franchise's cannon changes whenever. S9 will be a soft reboot so I definitely think it's possible for Miele's story to continue in Alphea.
@GayAndDog
@GayAndDog Жыл бұрын
God I wish
@johnlawrencemaniquis9174
@johnlawrencemaniquis9174 Жыл бұрын
@@L0V3000 S9 is not a soft reboot. It's a full-on reboot, so it will retell the story of s1
@Queen_Sakura
@Queen_Sakura Жыл бұрын
Omg I miss Mirta sm
@flxra
@flxra Жыл бұрын
She was done dirty just like Mirta, Galatea, Diaspro and Daphne 😔 THEY DESERVE BETTER R*INBOW !
@Idkacutename123
@Idkacutename123 Жыл бұрын
I'm srry but Galatea can rlly fuck off...I never rlly liked her. Especially in s8 when she was a bitch and literally let the Trix win like...sis the trix are the ones who almost burned u alive not to long ago and now ur happy that they win...she wasn't rlly interesting but Mirta definitely deserved better and we could've seen some sort of bond between her and Roxy as they both never rlly fit in with the places that they were born in, with Mirta being a witch only to turn into a fairy as she thought that she never belonged into a witch group and with Roxy being left out on Earth and a loner, only to find her inner self at Alfea and on Tir Na Nog with the other earth fairies and her mother
@sophiamenezessilva5018
@sophiamenezessilva5018 Жыл бұрын
is,nt diaspro a villian she tired (or nearly) killed bloom during season 6
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 9 ай бұрын
yeah diaspro is such a brat
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else think Roxy would have made a good 1st member of a 2nd generation of the Winx Club? Even as a prodigy, her status as a protege of the older Winx makes it seem weird to me that she wouldn't have a small circle of friends at Alfea.
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
@Will N Yeah, but that's one example in an entire college of students. And even a former arrogant can still get enough character development to join the Club. I still think Diasporo should have gotten a redemption that allowed her to join the extended Winx (alongside Mirta, Lucy, Daphne & Selina).
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
@Will N You got all that from color palettes? Assuming you're right, *any* character could pay reference to a generic rat in that analogy. It wouldn't *have* to be Diasporo.
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
@Will N You mentioned other things, but didn't explain them. Without said explanation, they can hardly be compelling evidences to your point. But even if I granted your point, what does any of this have to do with whether a reformed Diasporo would make an appreciable addition to the extended Winx Club?
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
@Will N That seems grossly unfair to Diasporo; punishing her for her boyfriend's mistakes?
@Canido19
@Canido19 Жыл бұрын
@Will N While true, this is fiction; and youth-fantasy, at that. Taking the story in *that* direction could potentially read as peddling the message of "girls who make poor decisions in boyfriends are *just* bad people".
@ghoulruby9871
@ghoulruby9871 4 ай бұрын
Stella: Fairies are elegant, kind, graceful! Also Stella after S4: *is the literal opposite and is drunk on fashion*
@SpecsTube
@SpecsTube Жыл бұрын
An idea could’ve been she made a new group of friends and that group becomes a consistent support group to assist the Winx from season 5 onwards - perhaps she makes the new friends in season 5 and they were to assist the Winx in season 6 (maybe they switched with the trix during the episodes they searched for eldora) and Roxy discovers and blows the trix’s cover. Also the season 4 lore will always confuse me - does time work differently in the fairy prison? The earth fairies were trapped for “centuries” while Roxy aged 16 years in that same timeframe.
@elinasakura
@elinasakura Жыл бұрын
Ooh, kind of like the Young Six from Friendship is Magic!
@SpecsTube
@SpecsTube Жыл бұрын
@@elinasakura nice MLP reference - honestly didn’t initially think of that.
@ahmadr2311
@ahmadr2311 Жыл бұрын
Somehow the creators repeated the same time mistake they made with bloom. Time never made sense in winx.
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 Жыл бұрын
Winx's continuity has always been disjointed AF and it's only gotten worse especially with all the recons. For example: Domino was said to have fallen 100 years ago but Bloom is 16. Moreover, The Trix are triplet sisters the creator even said so himself. But a comment the Trix made in S3 contradicts this.
@Yesmypfpismeirl
@Yesmypfpismeirl Жыл бұрын
@@ceeford9919 yep In s1 We saw the scene where Daphne was escaping with bloom who was a baby, If that has happened 100 years ago then bloom should be 100 rn, unless time on earth works a lot differently then time in the magical universe, Maybe a LOT slower
@ninaloveray
@ninaloveray Жыл бұрын
Roxy isn’t forgotten entirely. Iginio said a few weeks ago during an interview or just answered a fans question regarding if she is a Winx member and if she’s gonna be in the reboot. To which he said to both questions “maybe”. He always wanted her as the 7th member but Nickelodeon had the idea of removing her. Edit: I take my words back. Iginio confirmed she won’t be in the reboot. So goodbye Roxy. Fly high 🫶🏻😭
@MoonlarkSpirits
@MoonlarkSpirits Жыл бұрын
I sure hope that happens
@ahmadr2311
@ahmadr2311 Жыл бұрын
Did you verify that? S7 wasnt written by nick and that solidified roxy not being a member with the way it treated her in the story. If thats what he really wanted he wouldn't have continued to portray it that way, including in s8.
@blazekerman4767
@blazekerman4767 Жыл бұрын
Idk, is that reply from Iginio credible? There were some fans faking instagram messages from him, so I just want to be sure before I get my hopes up.
@stirlingno.1296
@stirlingno.1296 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, anything said by Straffi should be taken with a grain of salt at this point, because the things this man says baffles me.
@ninaloveray
@ninaloveray Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadr2311 not entirely without Nick. It was co produced with them not produced by them. That’s why it still aired on Nick.
@Lboogie0711
@Lboogie0711 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted Roxy to join the winx club but even during world of winx, she was in the background and was in a few episodes. I wanted her to get her new powers but she never did.
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
Same
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 9 ай бұрын
Roxy still doesn't earn another transformation like her friends sophix, lovix, harmonix ,sirenix bloomix , mythix butterflix , Tynix, dreamix , onyrix cosmix
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 5 ай бұрын
IKR?? I personally am not a fan of WoW and actually really hated it at first because of how poorly written the story was. I was actually so happy to see Roxy in it and was praying she would FINALLY be relevant again and get a new power or something. But no, all she did was appear in a handful of episodes and was forbidden from transforming or using magic AGAIN. I’m completely willing to forgive the reboot of “Earthlings don’t know about fairies and magic” but come on! Let Roxy do something!!!
@skloomforever
@skloomforever Жыл бұрын
S4: roxy was a main-side character while daphne was not even mentioned! S5: roxy was relevant in the first couple of episodes but daphne was a side character.. S6: roxy had barely one sub story while daphne was a main-side character.. S7: roxy was back as a side character and daphne disappeared again with having barely a fight.. S8: they both gone..
@thomasedison5453
@thomasedison5453 Жыл бұрын
I wish season 5 - 8 was about Roxy and introduced a new group of fairies that could've form a group with her, since The Winx had graduated Alfea and are now adults. And The Winx could've make a cameo on season 6 for the 10th anniversary. Roxy deserved better.
@cryingtomatohead8626
@cryingtomatohead8626 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed that the purpose of Roxy was to usher in a new age group of freshmen fairies to follow up after the winx club aged out. Following her and her own friends as they experience their own struggles and hardship. But no. Instead they backtracked entiand made her another useless side character that does nothing for the plot.
@zzenith9846
@zzenith9846 Жыл бұрын
If the show followed any decent logic, the Winx would actually become background post-season 4 after graduating Alfea, and Roxy would become the MC, maybe gathering her own club of fairies. A few fresh faces wouldn't hurt, but it seems like the producers are always deathly afraid of doing that.
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 Жыл бұрын
This. Roxy should've been the main focus of S5 that showed her time at Alfea. Or at least give her, her own spin off series.
@eurovisionalicia1989
@eurovisionalicia1989 7 ай бұрын
Not giving Roxy butterflix is like not giving Bloom bloomix.
@sevenequalsoneheart6710
@sevenequalsoneheart6710 Жыл бұрын
I will admit that with 4kids i appreciated what they tried to do with Tecna being british as while it didn't do much in terms of diversity, i sort of pictured that the fact she had a british accent in the 4kids dub meant that her realm may have creatures more well known from the mythologies and fairy tales from the UK. Yeah she comes from a world of technology but in the 4kids dub, and yes i have gone through every episode, tecna never brought up where she was from. But because of their designs and possible accents for tecna in the 4kids dub i thought their worlds would be inspired by the different myths and legends of different countries with some flare represented by the winx's respective elements. Domino being inspired by Irish mythologies, Solaria inspired by Italian or even greco-roman mythologies, Linphea inspired by possibly south american or central american myths, Zenith inspired by british or scottish mythologies, Melody inspired by Chinese mythologies, and Andros inspired by African mythologies. Yes i was a little 90's babu who was more fascinated by mythologies then how many members of the winx club were white or colored. Something that i personally feel more people should be doing, mostly because i was raised in a very artistic family. My mom being the biggest exception and always jealous of her siblings and parents for the stuff that they could draw or write. And as someone who was big into art himself i was the type of kid who wanted to learn about different cultures through their art and even try my hands at that medium if i had the time and materials. Like native american basket weaving or dream catcher making for example. I loved learning about the native americans and their different cultures as i was experiencing how to make my own basket and dream catchers with my own two hands. It made me appreciate their culture and even if what i made wasn't the best. Because it was theough an activity that i was and still am very passionate about. and yes i am Autistic and i have adhd and ocd on top of that Which is probably why naive little kid me was probably thinking the 4kids people made winx club and felt the same way.
@sailormermaidix24
@sailormermaidix24 Жыл бұрын
I was annoyed when they retconned her out and basically did everything to erase her. I also didn't like that many made excuses that it was the age gap but other magical girl shows such as Sailor Moon had the sailor senshi being different ages but they we're still a unit, a team. Tokyo Mew Mew also had this as well. She could've been a great addition to the team. Also I always feel like she would have a stronger connection to Bloom, Flora, and Aisha. Musa would be secondary and Stella along with Tecna would be the one she'll have the most challenging to work up a friendship with.
@mibsu8914
@mibsu8914 Жыл бұрын
Roxy's story in s4 was interesting. She goes through so mutch about knowing what she is. She wants to be a normal teenager, she is rejecting being a fairy but starting slowly to accept her powers and learn to control them, she learns truth about her mother she is growing as character she good support to winx. We know who to blame for left her behind. nickelodeon!
@tomsparrow1823
@tomsparrow1823 Жыл бұрын
Having just come off the heels of the Bloomix season and Roxy being a fairy potentially of the same significance in status as Bloom if not in power, there's also something to be said for the wasted opportunity of having Butterflix be a power bestowed *by* Roxy as the fairy of animals and crown princess of Tir Nan Og, mirroring Bloom basically creating Bloomix which I personally thought was at least a cool concept. Idk, that's just my thoughts on the whole thing.
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t want to make anyone comparable to Bloom to jeopardize her mc position
@naileaaa-z3j
@naileaaa-z3j 10 ай бұрын
​@@ma.2089yes since that would literally make no sense? Bloom has the power that created the magical dimension and has been a fairy for much longer than Roxy + Bloom is the protagonist, what would be the point of having a new fairy be as strong as her if not more? I agree that they should have given more importance to Roxy, but be objective 💀
@user-js2ig2yn5l
@user-js2ig2yn5l 10 ай бұрын
I agree with everything except for the skin color thing. It shouldnt matter at all whether or not a character of a childrens cartoon is white or black, blackwashing is the same as whitewashing, as an asian I guarantee you that no one would be offended if there was a white girl in there, stop making everything about race
@eddog6666
@eddog6666 Жыл бұрын
I have read a fan fiction where Roxy gets so fed up with the treatment she gets and Lucy convinced her to become a witch. And Roxy is a very powerful witch. In one chapter Icy hates that a ex fairy is becoming more popular then her and she willingly teams up with Bloom to force Roxy back into being a fairy. But she is able to hold her own against them. The story was shamed spam by several writers from the show that It was removed and the writer went on to other shows and seven stories even have the Winx being defeated by the others. Even digimon had one
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a link? That’s so cool AF
@brillianttao1167
@brillianttao1167 3 күн бұрын
Link please?
@ShinobiSora
@ShinobiSora Жыл бұрын
I could never get into the idea of changing a pre-existing character to make a show more diverse. It always felt like they couldn't be bothered to make an actual character and just expected minorities to be happy with the scraps of a pre-existing character that they just changed for no reason. I don't know if Roxy would work since her mom seems to be based on Aurthurian legend which would make her seem half-british. Unless everything about her was re-written, which would just be a different character entirely. And if she already had a boyfriend, why would she have a girlfriend unless she was bi or pan? Like Palladium has a girlfriend in the comic too. And only interacts with Avalon like twice. More representation would be neat, but I'd prefer nothing over pre-existing characters that are changed just to drum up controversy and weird attention.
@fe_fanby2278
@fe_fanby2278 Жыл бұрын
You mentioning Roxy being sapphic makes me want a video of your head canons/ other people's headcanons of the Winx Club characters. That would be an awesome pride month vid! Glad you covered this. Roxy was my favorite as a child and I was upset when they demoted her to background appearances.
@TheNVTrashMan
@TheNVTrashMan Жыл бұрын
She really did deserve much better and it's a tragedy that they shafted her after season 4. I was soo excited to have a new addition to the club and what type of flair she would add to the group. I remember when I first remembered her going to alfea and being happy that she would get to go the school that the Winx attended and then she just disappeared, they, completely forgot she existed, no screen time, it's like season 4 never happened...it was nice they gave her some scenes in 6 but it wasn't nearly enough, she was being treated as an outsider, ugh. 7 rolled around and I was excited to see an animal focused season cause Roxy would finally shine, but it turned out to be a big disappointment and mediocre. 7 was terrible season, kalshara and profilius whatever I can't spell his name right were terrible antagonists, it's only when the Trix appeared and started tearing things up is when it got slightly more exciting, but anyways, it was such a disservice that the writers let her stone of memories get taken by that mediocre antagonist, she only got 1 adventure, and that was it! She she had gotten butterflix too as she was also involved in that fight, what the heck man?? Couldn't she get another memory stone or can't a stone teleport more than one person back in time, I think in the last fight Roxy asked if she could help while Bloom said not today or something, like she has to ask for permission?? Anyways I think I'm done haha I wanted to see what season 8 was like but got bored after 8 episodes...great discussion!
@ma.2089
@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын
I guess it makes sense since they backtracked and pretended like the winx hadn’t graduated suddenly
@Eje_
@Eje_ Жыл бұрын
Roxy, Tecna and Aisha. They deserved better.
@Fmp.Macklin
@Fmp.Macklin Жыл бұрын
FR
@IzzyQueen12
@IzzyQueen12 Жыл бұрын
And Musa
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Жыл бұрын
@@IzzyQueen12 and Mirta
@IzzyQueen12
@IzzyQueen12 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasfarrell5981 YES
@lilithiaabendstern6303
@lilithiaabendstern6303 Жыл бұрын
if you make Roxy east asian, you have erase Morgana as her mother + everything regarding Ti'r Nan Og - you know, all the celtic & arthurian mythology robed into this, hence why just blackwashing a character that has a backround in an already well established world is just stupid, case and point, Anne Boleyn, Sophie Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz aka Queen Charlotte of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen Cleopatra or Disney's latest attampt on being relevant - a black Snow White and if you're so up in arms about representation, create your own, and don't just take from european cultures & mythology and complain "it's too white" for your taste imagine the Nibelungen saga, one of the oldest german mythologies from the 5th century, "there are only whites in this tale, how offensive" telling me you're just lazy & ignorant, without telling me you're just lazy & ignorant
@cupofsatori
@cupofsatori 10 ай бұрын
True actually. I feel like she looked more aesthetically pleasing in her original design than this one.
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
Roxy really deserved so much better!!!!! I love her, she is in my top 3 fav caracter from winx
@staying_silent
@staying_silent Жыл бұрын
I still remember watching season 4 for the first time as a kid. Being a stupid child, I didn't even like Roxy at first cause she was "mean" to the Winx and didn't want to be a fairy. Then I saw the scene where she first transforms, and... I cried. My cat was old, deaf, slowly going blind _and_ he'd started having seizures. As young as I was, I could still recognise that he wouldn't be around much longer. And my friends at the time told me not to be so dramatic, it was just a pet, it wasn't like I was losing an actual family member (we weren't friends after that, believe me). But I'd literally grown up with that cat; just the thought of him being gone broke me. So hearing Roxy say what I desperately wanted to was so important to me. She became my favourite character in an instant. "Just a dog? _Just_ a dog?!" still makes me tear up to this day.
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 9 ай бұрын
Me too
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 2 ай бұрын
Aww, that's beautiful that you were able to connect with her character and feel seen that way. My sympathies for the passing of your cat. 💗
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 Жыл бұрын
18:40. I kinda like the idea of Roxy having Malaysian heritage, mainly because Malaysia is a really interesting country and they make some pretty entertaining cartoons/animated series. 19:46. F**KING THANK YOU!!! Aisha's blue Enchantix was iconic and I will NEVER forgive Rainbow for taking it away. That whole plothole with Roxy and Morgana could have been fixed with a few simple rewrites. Just have Morgana give birth to Roxy a few years before the Wizards came and started being dicks. Morgana knew the Earth Fairies were fighting a losing battle and fearing for her newborn/toddler daughter's safety sealed away Roxy's Magic deep within herself to the point where she was indistinguishable from a normal human and then performed a memory wipe of Roxy and Klaus so that they forget Morgana existed. By the time of Season 4 Morgana's seal on Roxy is weakening after a decade and Roxy's magic is showing to the point where the Winx and the Wizards can pick up on it.
@somerandomdude7785
@somerandomdude7785 Жыл бұрын
Roxy is the Fluttershy of Winx Club.
@stirlingno.1296
@stirlingno.1296 Жыл бұрын
First a "Diaspro Deserved Better", and now a "Roxy Deserved Better" ...I know they've never interacted in canon...but...just saying, Roxy and Diaspro, I could get behind it.
@darkbloom6276
@darkbloom6276 Жыл бұрын
we could also talk about the case of Mirta who could have been the 6th Winx but her character was thrown away in season 2, I would have liked her to develop her friendship with Flora and it's a pity that in season 3 episode 11 she doesn't participate in the fight to help the Winx
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Mirta definitely had a larger role planned before Disney sued. Episode 3x11 deciding to ignore that she was at the same power level as half the Winx so she wouldn't get even one freakin' win was bad, but I found the start of Season 2 to be the biggest middle finger to her. Y'know, when they're going into a cave system riddled with dark magic and completely forget their witch friend who knows more about it than they do, won't have her magic hindered by it, and won't die without sunlight (seriously, why was Stella allowed to go? Mrs. Faragonda making Dumbledore look responsible out here)? Not to mention how stupid they were to make her a fairy, which felt like a complete betrayal of her characterization in S1 *and* saddled us with the nonsense that fairies can be whatever they want while witches have to be evil. And unlike Roxy and the pixies, she never got to be relevant again despite her being the ally who saved the Winx's butts more than once; the only episodes where she got any focus after Season 1 (of which there are 3[!]) made certain to keep her as far away from the actual story as they possibly could. So much potential, just flushed down the drain, like . . . why?
@kristinahuchison2511
@kristinahuchison2511 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the main reason why Mirta didn’t become a Winx was because Disney owned the rights to WITCH, who’s main character is Will, a red haired girl with powers, “fairy” wings and in a way is a witch (given the show’s name) Unfortunately Disney threatened to sue so Ignio was forced to back off and sadly made Mirta a casually appearing character instead. Its a similar issue to why Stella is called “fairy of the shining sun” in the Nick dub instead of sun AND MOON, apparently there were copyright infringements claiming Stella was too similar to Sailor Moon, a long blonde haired girl with magical powers and uses moon magic.
@maikyodel
@maikyodel Жыл бұрын
I really liked this one! When I rewrote Roxy for my AU, I pictured her as Philippine and AroAce. I changed her personality and made her a bit more chill but still sceptic and not into magic at the begining. I also made her a descendant of Morgana instead of her daughter to change the continuity problem because yeah that was my biggest issue aswell. I really don't understand why Rainbow introduced her and made so much noise around her if they were just going to throw her into the background after season 4. I remember in the comics she even was introduced as "Roxy, the 7th winx" it just makes 0 sense.
@dramonmaster222
@dramonmaster222 Жыл бұрын
YES! More love to Roxy! Plus it's messed up they spent a season revolved around her and the Earth Fairies only to simply act as if they don't exist anymore.
@Scarleto
@Scarleto Жыл бұрын
"Stella would still be white-passing, so white." Bruh, the erasure
@1Meepman
@1Meepman Жыл бұрын
One thing I do want to point out with Roxy's sexual orientation is that there's an underlying issue with representation that even the LGBT community is guilty of which is bi-erasure. I wouldn't straight up write out her boyfriend, I would rather make her a bi-con.
@justme._.7923
@justme._.7923 Жыл бұрын
I loved your videos but I feel like it’s become a sort of headcanon representation mania and I mean that respectfully. Roxy is my favourite alongside flora and that’s because of who they are in the show. Fans will want to change Roxy into making her darker and queer for headcanon while she looks nothing like Roxy. I’m honestly glad the show didn’t rewrite Roxy as a black queer girl. What’s next? Making her trans, mixed parented, adopted, needing glasses, immigrant and so on? Representation is great, but I hate character rewrites into things that they were not ment to be to begin with, it’s kind of disrespectful to the writers and original creators of the show who put effort and passion into their characters just for the fans to absolutely tear that down. Just to add, I AM NOT BOTHERED BY redesigns and rewrites when it is done in a believable and inspired way. For instance I’m a sucker for miraculous redesigns because fans update the characters suits into something that is still similar (for instance ladybug inspired for Marinette, different hairstyle but same black hair, different mask same colour, etc.) but more flattering and compliments what has been established in the show rather than completely redo her character. I am also not homophobic and racist because I know that’s the first thing people assume at any minor criticism regarding representation. Established fans will never want to see a Roxy that looks nothing like Roxy, sorry not sorry.
@sailingthemwebslmao
@sailingthemwebslmao Ай бұрын
THIS
@kenshilite8074
@kenshilite8074 Жыл бұрын
She deserved to be Bloom's Akari (Aikatsu character that became successor of its first main protagonist İchigo). She got one of the most solid backstory in this show but got threw into background just due to having 7 members in the Winx would be too crowded. But why producers included her in the Wow along with main 6. Producers were literally gave Roxy's fans hope in season 7 and WoW, by gave her brief appearances.
@snatchingcareers4681
@snatchingcareers4681 Жыл бұрын
Roxy would’ve been such a good member of the Winx. I think Season 5 would’ve been interesting if they let her come on some of the missions and maybe for filler episodes make them train her and help her level up to at least enchantix.
@Dani_77709
@Dani_77709 Жыл бұрын
I cry because what they did to my girl every time I'm reminded of it. I love Roxy so much.
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
Same
@tristiancoplen9106
@tristiancoplen9106 Жыл бұрын
I freaking love Roxy and she does deserve better.. No matter what rendition There needs to be more story plots for her
@alicenetti9580
@alicenetti9580 8 ай бұрын
I recently had a dream about watching Winx Season 9's first episode and Roxy was there! They were in a fairy form that looked like bloomix and Roxy was there too and she had Bloomix too! Then they mentioned something about Roxy finally graduating and having tried out for joining a specialist female squad of something like that, then the dream ended.
@I_always_have_been_Daniel49
@I_always_have_been_Daniel49 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Roxy deserved better ❤️. I love when you make videos like this. I still remember the “Diaspro deserved better” video from months ago.
@RexxMcqueen
@RexxMcqueen Жыл бұрын
My favorite line that almost made me cry is when she earned her believix and she said "just a dog JUST A DOG!!!!!!!" It made me cry bc ik how she felt she lost her best friend and she was so pissed and I love for it
@sparxstreak02
@sparxstreak02 Жыл бұрын
20:00 I've always felt that Roxy should've been yellow given Aisha was assigned green first & turquoise is always being debated on whether it belongs in the blue or green colour palette, so yellow would allow Roxy to have her own distinctive colour & not have her be mistaken for taking another Winx's signature colour. Plus, we'd have 7 colours for the Winx Rainbow 🌈: Bloom - Blue Roxy - Yellow Flora - Pink Stella - Orange Tecna - Purple Musa - Red Aisha - Green
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 9 ай бұрын
Daphne-cream
@MasterBritannicJess
@MasterBritannicJess 8 ай бұрын
​@@charmianernest1449we dont care Daphne
@midnightfox3157
@midnightfox3157 Жыл бұрын
Roxy deserved do much better then what the show gave her her power are so unique especially to the winx and I would’ve loved to see her continue to as a member of the club like with harmonix and sirenix and so on like that would’ve been infinitely much better but instead we’re stuck with fan made stuff which is good but like not enough and as much as I love season 5 it really fumbled the bag with Roxy Also I would’ve liked if Roxy’s was a lot like vixen from dc comics who powers allow her to use animals powers flight as a bird strength from an elephant so on and so forth ya know and yes many thing growing up watching season 4 i always mixed up Roxy and tecna cuz of their hair color also also I said this on discord but I will say it again I’m pretty sure 99% of the audience that watched winx growing up is some shade of queer it’s just a fact of life
@thapelosishi
@thapelosishi Жыл бұрын
“Just let her be Aquaman” But she IS Aquaman! The most irrelevant member of the group nobody (outside the fandom in Roxy’s case) cares to acknowledge
@lenab8785
@lenab8785 Жыл бұрын
I could see Roxy having a witch girlfriend, honestly I generally think Roxy might get along better with witches than most fairys but that's just my headcanon
@iloverabits9231
@iloverabits9231 Жыл бұрын
THE FACT THAT ROXY DIDN'T AT LEAST GET BUTTERFLIX IS A CRIME😫✋ ELECTRIC CHAIR🔨
@Fmp.Macklin
@Fmp.Macklin Жыл бұрын
RIGHT
@charmianernest1449
@charmianernest1449 9 ай бұрын
I'm Sure roxy will gain another transformation
@TaiSwift05
@TaiSwift05 Жыл бұрын
Roxy was my favorite character i know she wasn't the most relevant vharacter but i feel like she should be more important in season 7 plus she was relatable person in the show in my opinion people say season 4 was bad but i 100% disagree with that it had a great story
@multidebbie1
@multidebbie1 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like pushing all of the representation on Roxy would have been odd because that would probably most likely be the only things fans would talk about her. Her representation and not her story.
@MsSumoon
@MsSumoon Жыл бұрын
Rainbow really did her dirty, but I do believe probably the conflict between Nick and Rainbow also helped for her disappearing to the background. The girls didn't even get a Pixie to connect. I also got confused why her design wasn't magic Winx, and I don't recall if they explain that Earth Fairies have different forms from other “regular fairies“, it would have helped to explain her design. Not even Fate allowed her to exist, like at all, and her powers would have fitted in their magic system, imagine she is a Mind fairy who is able to communicate with Animals, but I'm glad Fate got cancelled to be honest, because for a series that said it was for older audiences it was extremely immature and edgy with no reason. Regardless, someone inside Rainbow thought Roxy was a bad idea, or even Nick thought that too, we sadly don't know the behind the scenes, even if they wanted to keep the Winx forever 16, Roxy would have fitted no problem. And it truly never occurred to me that Stella could be a white-Latina, and being a White-Latina myself, now I can see that YEAH she is a White-Latina for sure, including the way she acts and to be honest, even that she would be White-passing, White-Latino do kind of get ignored in media in general(because we are White-Passing, people usually don't believe that we are Latinos, and here in Latin-America, yeah we are White, and sadly Afro-Latino and Natives still are underprivileged and even underrepresented in media, now we are slowly having more Afro-Latino representation, at least here in Brazil where 55% of the population is of African descent), so I will adopt my fave Stella, princess of Solaria, Fairy of the Sun and Moon as a White-Latina coded, and Brandon also do look a lot many White-Latino guys by the way.
@Esmeyippie
@Esmeyippie Жыл бұрын
5:01 summed up the entire roxy arc
@charlotsteven9981
@charlotsteven9981 Жыл бұрын
LMAO DHJDJDCH
@tobennaokoli4450
@tobennaokoli4450 Жыл бұрын
And if Rainbow didn’t think we noticed… I’m counting Roxy turning Ms. Griffin back as nostalgia bait for Flora turning Mirta back to normal in season 1.
@chuuu4610
@chuuu4610 Жыл бұрын
Kid me: Roxy should’ve taken over from Bloom as the focus if they want to refresh. Adult me: Same.
@fosterace6673
@fosterace6673 Жыл бұрын
It just doesn't make sense that Roxy didn't get to be one of the winx, because that would mean Bloom could always be in the middle
@martinleclairvoyant
@martinleclairvoyant Жыл бұрын
At first I was annoyed with the introducing of Roxy in Season 4. However, after time, and rewatching S4, I grew fond of her: she is smart, independent, beautiful, courageous and willing to face her mistakes and learn and grow from them. Furthermore, I liked her point of view about magic, discovering her true origins, her long lost mother and her coping with all the immediate changes, which came to her as a Tower Moment, completely shaking her old life and world. I did like what she had some significance and importance in Season 7, but I agree what Thomas said about the matter. I have also seen the first drafts of Butterflix for the Winx Club game and Roxy was supposed to have also Butterflix. Honestly, the way Roxy was treated after Season 4, thanks to Nickelodeon, or Rainbow, or the both of the brands, has also put the franchise into peril. The logo of “Winx Club” ought to be “We Cannot Have Nice Things” from now on… Thank you for the wonderful video, lovely Thomas! 💖🦋💖
@white_bunny1983
@white_bunny1983 6 ай бұрын
I think solving all problems like queer representation and diversion shouldn’t be solved by giving all those characteristics to one character. Especially when we also have Daphne. I feel like making Roxy Asian can be a good move, but maybe we could make Daphne represent queer people, maybe along with Roxy, maybe not. However I feel like Daphne was also kinda cast aside. Since Daphne is Bloom’s sister it would be much harder to rewrite and redesign her to represent different race groups excluding white, I don’t think Daphne has a boyfriend, maybe I just don’t remember, but I think Daphne would be much more fitting to represent queer. We stan roxy.🫶🙌
@idiotthatdrawsakaartist
@idiotthatdrawsakaartist Жыл бұрын
I've been rewriting the fourth season and have been wanting to do a lot with Roxy considering she's my second favourite (musa's the best girl here , F I g h t. M e) One thing I really want to explore with her is self-imposed isolation and emotional detachment. Without going into too much detail, Roxy is a very lonesome person who has been betrayed one too many times in her life and as such has taken to bonding with Animals as a way to avoid human interaction. Her whole storyline would be learning to have trust in the winx as the season goes on, but in season 5 the fact that she's so much younger and inexperienced will make her realise the limits of the kinds of friendships she can have with them. Simply put, the winx are way too old to truly bond with Roxy, so she's mostly isolated. Idk what I would do with her after that point besides having her earn Enchantix before she was ready and dealing with her destructive emotions influencing her already unstable magic and having that be a way to explore her emotional state. Roxy just has a shit ton of potential. Fucking use it please
@sailormermaidix24
@sailormermaidix24 Жыл бұрын
Ooh I can't wait to read it! I too am working on a season 4 rewrite. She had so much potential
@akiinmoonlight79
@akiinmoonlight79 Жыл бұрын
Your Winx videos literally have a therapeutic and nostalgic vibe to them ~ i love them and u 😭❤
@whatteamwildcats4033
@whatteamwildcats4033 Жыл бұрын
Season 5 should have been a story focused on handing the reins off to roxy and a new group, that way winx club could have done what rainbow wanted it to do afterwards - and probably gotten more money from older fans by continuing the winx's story in a separate spinoff
@Gwen-zk4zp
@Gwen-zk4zp Жыл бұрын
winx season 4: 7 the perfect number Season 5: correction 6 is okey
@FurnaxIkki
@FurnaxIkki Жыл бұрын
Didn't expect a Redlettermedia reference here but bravo. Been enjoying your work for a long time now, even as someone who was never a big fan of the Winx Club. I still found it interesting enough to keep vaguely up with it, and it's nice to see someone talking about the parts of it that *were* interesting and what could've been done better with it.
@blazekerman4767
@blazekerman4767 Жыл бұрын
Great video - but there is one point I am kinda of iffy on. I do not think Bloom is a Mary Sue in Season 4 - I think that started in Season 5 and only continued to get worse. Season 4 seemed like the last season where she felt like a leader of the group, not necessarily the most important character.
@idkkkk7588
@idkkkk7588 3 ай бұрын
In personal headcanon she graduated after season 7 and lived her best life on earth.
@georginaemmanuelleportugal4271
@georginaemmanuelleportugal4271 3 ай бұрын
Roxy is the fairy of animals she deserves butterflix
@cjoy413
@cjoy413 Жыл бұрын
You're right she did deserved better. Good video.
@noisi747
@noisi747 Жыл бұрын
Idk why people demand representation from the Italian cartoon in the first place. 3 of 6 Winx members are white (I consider Stella white, this is the first time I've ever heard about Stella being Latina, gurl what, she's like quarter shade tanner than Bloom) so ONLY half of Winx (or 4/7 if we include Roxy) are white in ITALIAN CARTOON. This is not overrepresentation, this is underrepresentation wtf, it's not the US, and even in US majority, like 70%, is white so if anything we need one more white Winx. And yeah yeah Nickelodeon is American but, correct me if I am wrong, they had nothing to do with Winx Club until like season 5?
@lorendaemon7945
@lorendaemon7945 Жыл бұрын
I've never clicked so fast she deserves so much better
@MoonlarkSpirits
@MoonlarkSpirits Жыл бұрын
Amen
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@backitup5954
@backitup5954 Жыл бұрын
They even had that little moment back in season 5 where Bloom was still mourning over Daphne only for Roxy to say that Bloom had been a big sister to her.
@cynthia_based
@cynthia_based Жыл бұрын
in other words, Roxy’s entire storyline was useless at the end because she doesn’t help at all after season 4 and her powers don’t level up. In fact, I’d even say Alfea as a whole is a shitty school full of favoritism because the winx receive special lessons and go on missions while the rest sit on their asses and aren’t given a chance.
@Gold._.
@Gold._. Жыл бұрын
0:25 It wasn't rainbow it was Nickelodeon.
@ohw5306
@ohw5306 Жыл бұрын
I agree Aisha's blue enchantix is wayyyyy better than green
@blueowl3474
@blueowl3474 Жыл бұрын
Roxy my beloved 💚💚💚 honestly she had so much wasted potential; there was so much that they could have done with her being the last fairy on Earth, and the Winx' protege at that.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF Жыл бұрын
Indigo isn't purple. It's a dark blue purple. Aka Luna’s coat color from my little pony friendship is magic.
@videogamefighter598
@videogamefighter598 Жыл бұрын
It will never not piss me off how she was just thrown to the side after all the development she had in season 4 and then season 7 she gets done dirty by having her time shard stolen like wtf?
@infinitedreamer9359
@infinitedreamer9359 Жыл бұрын
Gonna have to disagree on the whole raceswappping thing. Representation is great,but not when you're changing an already established characters design. It's always better IMO to make a new character for that,provided that the writing for them is actually good. You,know like they did with Aisha.
@tami7992
@tami7992 9 күн бұрын
Same here, I really don't like raceswapping in any way unless it's completely different characters like with the DCU, Marvel or the She-Ra reboot.
@joytaylor6553
@joytaylor6553 6 ай бұрын
Roxy does deserve credit for helping out the Winx
@mooshinu
@mooshinu Жыл бұрын
Very nice video as usual but I really don't like the whole "begging for representation" schtick, if we're talking real, nobody owes you anything, if you want to be represented in the media, you maybe should create your own characters and franchises. Is it really fair to beg for other nations to make a character based on your cultural background? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more diversity but we can't expect other people who are unfamiliar with your culture to do the work for you, usually (and most of the time) they just end up being stereotyped or token characters like we have seen countless before (since Winx are made by italians, I think they have something to say about it as well). I'm also someone who comes from a country that is rarely if ever represented anywhere and it's kinda puzzling to me how people are so fixated on skin color and superficial stuff these days instead of enjoying the media itself for what it is regardless of the ethnic background of the characters.
@adisappointment3453
@adisappointment3453 Жыл бұрын
i can honestly see Roxy as wasian, her mother (while being a fairy) could pass as asian and her father is obviously white
@Officially-miko
@Officially-miko Жыл бұрын
I agree, I remember that once bloom said that even now she is a part of the Winx club and I was so glad! Thinking that she would help them in missions and be given screentime but later on after season 4 she was throwed out and neglected she was only given importance and screentime in season 4 after that it was like she dosen't exist Roxy was made like some poor useless side character she honestly deserves better she has so much determination and is really confident she was neglected and never payed attention to it's crazy how she never complained to the Winx about being neglected after they're the actual one who told her she's a part of the Winx well DUH...?! if she is a part OF THE WINX THEN GIVE HER THAT IMPORTANCE AND POSITION...?!?! why'd they make her so USELESS?! At this point, Roxy should make her own Winx Club with some other fairies like her and prove the Winx she's better off without them cuz they were the one who first made her a part of the Winx and now just exclude her from they're missions and make her seem so Useless
@gomotsegangphakalane5863
@gomotsegangphakalane5863 Жыл бұрын
To be completely honest, I don't think Roxy was supposed to be main character at all. She only became one after people saw the potential she had. And on a side not, it's funny how Roxy and Bloom are the only two that's names don't end with an "A", hence why I think Roxy would've been a tool to branch out the winx franchise if the audience started caring more about Roxy and not the main 6 girls.
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 Жыл бұрын
If Roxy is not meant to be a main character rainbow shouldn't have advertised her as the seventh fairy of the Winx. They even said that she was going to be a permanent member.
@Okamimoto
@Okamimoto Жыл бұрын
I never liked how they treated Daphne as a 7th member, when Roxy was previously created to cover that role (Daphne never deserved to be brougjt back to life in the first place but nevermind) They did her really dirty. Also this has nothing to do with her character but I wish she got a better design. It always bugged me how they stopped dressing Aisha green to give it to Roxy. It also always bothered me how her hair color's shade is close to Tecna. They should've picked a different color. Black hair maybe? And a different color for her fairy form too since green belonged to Aisha. I was thinking about yellow since no one has that yet (I kinda imagine Roxy's redesign to be something close to Lyna from Lolirock but yellow). Also, season 2 introduced us Aisha. I kinda wish Mirta was part of the club too from season 3. A witch becoming a fairy? That had lots of potential. Her main color could've also been magenta (and Musa would've keep red). At least the rainbow would be complete
@ShadowRoadX
@ShadowRoadX Жыл бұрын
Kinda saw the writing on the wall with her pretty early on. I figured they'd either push her really hard to justify adding her to the toy line up, or do very little with her once her story arc was done. Shame it was the latter, the former would have at least given them more leeway to actually do stuff with her.
@francescachiarelli4669
@francescachiarelli4669 Жыл бұрын
ALREADY another video? Yes thanks. Also, Roxy Stans rise 💚
@nicolas._.2294
@nicolas._.2294 Жыл бұрын
Yas💚
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF Жыл бұрын
I've been a Roxy Stan for a long time! And still am to this day!💚💚💚🐇🐕🐴
@moumitashil1008
@moumitashil1008 9 ай бұрын
Rainbow didn't give Roxy a new civilian outfit. they didn't give her a new transformation. I hope in future season, they will make some episodes focused on Roxy.
@ceeford9919
@ceeford9919 5 ай бұрын
You know after recently learning some new info about Roxy. And coming back and rewatching this video it reminds me on how dirty she was done. For context: I learned that before the S7 script was finalized. There was a Nickelodeon game created where you can play as Roxy as a Butterflix fairy. Which might prove that Roxy was originally going to have butterflix but It had gotten scrapped for some nonsensical reason.
@SelenerSelenaur
@SelenerSelenaur Жыл бұрын
Roxy deserved her own club, maybe with Mirta, Crystal and Amaryl. Deadass
@meganpayette5996
@meganpayette5996 Жыл бұрын
Poor Roxy, she had so much potential. At least we got to see her transformation sequence on screen. Unlike Sailor Saturn in the first Sailor Moon anime. (Thank you, Sailor Moon Crystal.)
@hibahibaelarche5818
@hibahibaelarche5818 Жыл бұрын
I remember always considering Roxy a member as though it was obvious. I always had her as a member and it always seemed to kid me that it was obvious she was. Hell, I remember watching the 4th season and being immensely thrilled when one of the episode titles literally spelled out "7, the perfect number" since that would mean Roxy was perhaps meant to be the official seventh member but perhaps Nickelodeon was like "Nah, we don't have competent enough writers to deal with 7 members".
@Amanda-zn7ox
@Amanda-zn7ox Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought season 4 was the start of the NickBow era, and I disliked everything from that season by default, thinking they ruined the perfectly fine club from season 3. Well, I know the truth now, and I do like Roxy! Especially rewrite Roxy! I think an interesting angle to take her story could be trying to make her own Winx Club with other students, and trying to meet the expectations she sets for it. But, that's my own fanfic.
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