UniFi Network Update: Is the Dream Machine Pro Worth It?

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@jeppeladefoged5218
@jeppeladefoged5218 4 жыл бұрын
I experienced zero issues setting up my UDM Pro 2 months ago. 2 AP's and 2 switches. Replaced a Mikrotik router and a Unifi controller in docker.
@Outworlder
@Outworlder 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you replace the Mikrotik router? Just curious. I've personally found them to be cheap, reliable and surprisingly featureful.
@jeppeladefoged5218
@jeppeladefoged5218 4 жыл бұрын
@@Outworlder Ease of use when everything is managed in one interface. I do like the Mikrotik routers, but find Unifi much easier to use for my home setup.
@Maxrotor1
@Maxrotor1 4 жыл бұрын
I have had my UDM Pro for a few months. I upgraded from Cloud Key Gen 1 and USG. I had a few glitches, but it was pretty easy. I love the UDM Pro.
@anthonyd4238
@anthonyd4238 4 жыл бұрын
Really good review, I did the Ubiquiti plunge after watching your three part videos. I went with the all in one dream machine and added a switch and three in wall AP. It’s been an amazing experience. The amount of functionality and control that UniFi provides is incredible. My only hitch were my Shellys running the stock firmware. I couldn’t get them to play well on my IoT VLAN. So when the OTA Firmware became available, I migrated them all to Tasmota and now they are on my NoT VLAN and working better than ever.
@allent555
@allent555 4 жыл бұрын
Experienced the same with UDM pro during the initial setup. However now runs without an issue. Main reason for the upgrade was throughput limits on the USG. Especially with the family working and schooling at home now.
@covvy
@covvy 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have the USG3 or 4? Was considering upgrading the USG3 as my ISP speed is now faster than it can actually handle.
@Virkash
@Virkash 4 жыл бұрын
If only it had Poe out it would have been perfect
@ryankelzenberg3453
@ryankelzenberg3453 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I would have been happy to pay a little more to have some POE ports instead of needing to use POE injectors or buy an POE switch.
@balla2172
@balla2172 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, big letdown with all these great features
@Darjk
@Darjk 4 жыл бұрын
POE and a second HDD
@navierbresse5351
@navierbresse5351 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the 8-Port built-in switch has a 1Gbps total throughput (!)
@DozIT
@DozIT 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Kelzenberg I get where your coming from, but this device makes little to no sense in the home (unless you really want unifi protect). It really shines when you use it in a business environment and connect it to one or more Ubiquiti 24 or 48 port PoE+ Pro switch via 10G SFP+
@tengelgeer
@tengelgeer 4 жыл бұрын
6:45 You could have connected your computer directly to your modem and downloaded the firmware. In the early days of broadband internet that was the normal way. It took all while for routers to become standard gear for consumers. And yeah, I'm glad I just bought a Edge router X 😁
@martinta1989
@martinta1989 4 жыл бұрын
That depends on your ISP, my ISP locks the mac address, so if i'm changing equipment i have to either wait for xx amount of hours or call the support to clear the mac adress in their end.
@Catsrules1
@Catsrules1 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinta1989 You can do MAC spoofing to get around this issue. Most routers support this and you can also do it on PCs as well.
@Hepheastius
@Hepheastius 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinta1989 I've heard about this but I've never seen it, I also installed internet for 10 years as an installer and work currently as a internet capacity technician in head ends. I personally cannot comprehend why a ISP would give a juck what device I connect to my modem to use the service I pay for. I dont know what they think they can achieve by such stone-age rules.
@michaelsasso13
@michaelsasso13 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do this all the time, no matter the broadband provider. It’s a good way to isolate issues with the network.
@C0mmander
@C0mmander 4 жыл бұрын
I recently setup a UDM Pro and a 24 POE gen 2 switch. Only issue I had was the initial detection of the internet connection, but that magically solved itself after 20 minutes. Updating the firmware was flawless, everything works great so far.
@joshm5514
@joshm5514 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same initial problem with the setup. I agree that it seemed more to do with the blutooth. Restarted the process once more and it worked just fine.
@Kushari
@Kushari 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, the issue with the internet detection is most probably due to the cable modem. You need to powercycle the modem after the new device (in this case the dream machine pro) has been plugged into it. The ISP modems always remember the last MAC address that was plugged into them, and if it doesn't match, it doesn't give out internet. Here in Canada we had some in Quebec that also have a built in battery that you need to take out as unplugging it wouldn't turn it off (switched to battery). That's because the ISP also offered home phone over the cable line, so if the electricity goes out, you could still use the home phone.
@Fergtech
@Fergtech 4 жыл бұрын
I got one and thankfully I didn't have any of these issues. love it so far!
@teddy0139
@teddy0139 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know... but I got my UDP Pro in May 2020, and didn’t have any of those issues described here while setting up the network. I setup new network from scratch, and I took about 30-40 minutes with all configuration. I didn’t wait with UDM firmware upgrade, just did it while installing for the first time. Since May I didn’t have any issues, besides one lost connection and problem with restart after we had pretty big storm and lost electricity. I have one issue discovering G3 camera, but after 2 trials it installed properly. Overall very satisfied with this piece of equipment
@Nigel-cj8eo
@Nigel-cj8eo 4 жыл бұрын
I have the UDM-PRO, had the same issue as you with installing. SSH to the UDM-PRO confirmed it had internet access, so it had internet. The app was still saying it didn't work. I think they just ship it with really old firmware that doesn't communicate with the app very well.
@ryankelzenberg3453
@ryankelzenberg3453 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that appears to be the issue. It also occurs when connecting to a new UDMPro via a network cable and PC. Once I updated the firmware through SSH, I had no issues. I did recommend that Unifi include the entire process to update the firmware with the device. I don't mind doing the work, I just don't like to hunt for the directions.
@Nigel-cj8eo
@Nigel-cj8eo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryankelzenberg3453 Yea indeed. I just booted mine to recovery mode and installed it that way
@adamanddog
@adamanddog 4 жыл бұрын
I love my UDMP. It was about two hours for me also. It is a must if you have a fiber line and a family.
@dcast777
@dcast777 4 жыл бұрын
There are other better options than the USG line. PFSense, OpenSense, Untangle, Sophos are just a few.
@adamanddog
@adamanddog 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcast777 None of those are a complete package like Ubiquiti's Unifi. PFS is a piggyback product that works better for some implementations.
@dcast777
@dcast777 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamanddog Ya but they all work and work well, kind of a big difference.
@whoanelly-
@whoanelly- 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcast777 Agreed. I run a PFS FW on a separate little machine. While I'd love to go single pane of glass/one stop shop, I hate their VPN option, wished they used openVPN, plus from what I can see, not a fan of their firewall administration. Im going to wait it out. Was also considering this for the NVR. I dont have a cloud key, I run that in a VM. Was wanting to simply and declutter a bit.
@julius5632
@julius5632 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my friend, got an udm pro 2 weeks ago, and we both didn't have any problems.
@MichaelWoodside
@MichaelWoodside 4 жыл бұрын
One of the things to remember on the IPS/IDS Portion is that the majority of these are aimed at the PRO/Commercial Realm where they do have a lot of inbound Rules allowing scans, etc. So the IPS/IDS is reporting that you are being scanned, for a Normal Home network not an issue. But for a Commercial entity that could be a sign that something/Someone may be trying to find their blind spots.
@MarcJennings
@MarcJennings 4 жыл бұрын
These features are also available in the non-pro Dream Machine. It's a good option for a start point since it has an AP built in
@Kosh42EFG
@Kosh42EFG 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. So much cheaper than buying a USG, key, AP and switch.
@kymnyth
@kymnyth 4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded/migrated from a ckg2+ and usg and the process was super easy! My suggestions are: Don't use bluetooth!!!! Connect to lan port 1 and do everything through the web interface. Make sure your ckg2+ is on the latest firmware, backup settings and shutdown the ckg2+ through the interface like suggested in the video. Whole thing took 15 min once I stopped fiddling with bluetooth and phone connection.
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite 4 жыл бұрын
I think using your phone to setup the UDMPro was a source of much of your issues. I setup a new UDMPro from a desktop computer on the network and it ran through all the setup and upgrades flawlessly. I was surprised how quickly it went. It was in a closet and I didn't need to touch it after turning on.
@jamesk7156
@jamesk7156 4 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing more videos on the UDMPro... advanced features... how to on IOT networks... doubling as a local home server to run other programs???... thanks my friend! I love your videos!
@allan6344
@allan6344 4 жыл бұрын
I had zero issues with the UDM-Pro setup. It was later when I made a mistake with a firewall rule and locked myself out. Remember to do backups of the controller settings and Protect.
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos 2 жыл бұрын
I am watching this now and do realise it is 2 years old. If the internet is 50/20 or lower is it worth getting a Dream Machine Pro or is it better to stay with the USG-Pro-4?
@Dygear
@Dygear 3 жыл бұрын
Just did an install of this yesterday. The first part, the firmware upgrade happened off site in my lab. When I got to the customer site, everything went super smooth. The latest firmware was very stable and usable for me. I think they nailed it with the 1.9.3 firmware. It was very reliable.
@randomodbuild
@randomodbuild 4 жыл бұрын
Just upgraded from a UDM (base) to a UDM Pro. I haven't had any issues, the migration was smooth and quick. I set it up with my phone, with the WAN port plugged into the UDM (base). After a quick firmware update, I opened the web interface from my laptop (ethernet) and restored a backup from the UDM (base) onto the new UDMP. After bootup, I unplugged everything from the UDM (base) and plugged it into the UDMP. Everything was fine, and it was done faster than the streaming buffer of Amazon Music on an Echo Dot (so no music was interrupted in the process, family was happy lol) The primary reason for upgrading was due to the dual WAN, but having 10GB SFP+ interfaces is nice for future proofing, and the 3500Mbps is much higher than the 850Mbps for IPS throughput. Not to mention the 4 extra ports.
@getinge
@getinge 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt have any of your issues when I upgraded to the udm pro and the 3,5 gbit throughput with ips enabled was worth the upgrade for me.
@louisschnetler7915
@louisschnetler7915 4 жыл бұрын
The IPS might be a first line defense for outgoing traffic where the firewall might be the first line defense for incoming traffic.
@MatthewMello
@MatthewMello 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. One note, you could have hooked up your laptop directly to your cable modem to download the update if you didn't mind exposing it to the internet for the brief time. I was on the fence myself for my new network between the UDM and UDM pro. I went with the UDM.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
My laptop unfortunately doesn’t have an Ethernet port.
@MatthewMello
@MatthewMello 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I can see that being a problem. I do have a lot of videos of yours to go through. Looks like we have a lot in common with IP Cams, Home Automation, and Light Shows using RGB Pixels
@campigenus
@campigenus 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp One of the main reasons I always keep a USB3->GBE adapter in my "toolbox".
@GregSpence
@GregSpence 4 жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my home and my office to the UDM-Pro and really glad I didn't run into any of those setup problems.
@TwoBlackRings
@TwoBlackRings 4 жыл бұрын
The process you described is EXACTLY my story the last time I had to set up my USG. So, I think it is a Ubiquiti thing that is unrelated to the specific device.
@TwoBlackRings
@TwoBlackRings 4 жыл бұрын
So, I went for it. I upgraded. Here is the kicker: Thanks to this video, I was prepared for the flaws and was able to get ready before configuring the UDM Pro. Everything went SO smoothly. I have to add that my UDM Pro found the connection from my modem immediately. If you take this video as the actual process that you'll have to face, you won't be surprised or disappointed. Once you have the device setup and you settings transferred from your USG, it is a great device to have! GREAT VIDEO!
@nintariplays5654
@nintariplays5654 4 жыл бұрын
(speaking as an owner of a DMP) I had the same issues as in this video, and wish they would allow us to configure the second 10Gb port as a LAN instead of a WAN...I have two machines I'd love to get on 10Gb connections...but I'll still have to use another switch on top of needing my POE switch
@emotionz3
@emotionz3 4 жыл бұрын
The programmer who handled the backup/restore function is the only one that did their job on this thing.
@edmardell4137
@edmardell4137 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you're on a newer controller version than the udm in which case it just fails... As it did for me on standard udm. Just before dhcp proved to be utterly broken...
@ThomasKelly.
@ThomasKelly. 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive real world review with your screen recordings. That is absolutely helpful!
@benlenau
@benlenau 4 жыл бұрын
Man you hit the nail on the head with this review. I myself have a rock solid UniFi setup with the USG. Seeing this I'm NOT in a hurry running out and getting the UDM Pro. Thanks :-)
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
I REALLY wanted this thing to be amazing. Still holding out hope.
@RAKRail
@RAKRail 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your straight forward, no bs information. Great video.
@rmorris003
@rmorris003 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I started out with Unifi a few months ago with 2 US-8 switches for my devices in my house at 2 locations to save on running wires all over the place and further expanded to a UDM once it became in stock and after that I added a NanoHD AP to further increase my wifi coverage. Now that I think of it I should have just went with the UDMP for the better performance and only have 1 switch since I spent about 1000 Canadian on the 4 devices. I went Unifi to disable my Rogers Ignite XB6 mesh system for my Gigabit internet but right now Rogers seems to be capping speeds at 500Mbps as most recently I cannot see the full gigabit anymore.
@tkto13
@tkto13 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out if Rogers intentionally throttled due to use of other equipment? I'm currently with Bell (fiber to the house), but moving to an area with poor Bell speeds. I'm dreading the possibility of needing to use the other option.
@MikeGromer
@MikeGromer 4 жыл бұрын
I setup a Ubiquiti network at home a few months ago. Your videos on IoT vlans were helpful int hat setup. I do agree, the UDM Pro is the choice if going from scratch. I didn't have any issues with my setup that I was not expecting. I'm on Google Fiber, so I knew I was going to have to play around with the WAN settings. After dialing those, everything else went smooth. Also am running a 16 port PoE switch, an HD in wall access point, a FlexHD AP, and a 5 port USW Flex Mini switch. So far I've loved it all. Biggest pain was hanging a 6U rack on a wall last night to house this in. Also, should have gotten a bigger rack. And a bigger PoE switch. Man it's east for this to get big! I'm looking at their cameras now...
@fffizzz
@fffizzz 4 жыл бұрын
I had the no internet connection when I started testing mine, I had to SSH in and manually set the date, once I did that, it came right up.
@murdokojoyoamanu1379
@murdokojoyoamanu1379 4 жыл бұрын
I have some issue when using USG at 2016, and solution is same, update the time using SSH
@Ed-sh8jt
@Ed-sh8jt 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a link you can forward with SSH instructions to update time? I plan to try to install one next weekend
@fffizzz
@fffizzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed-sh8jt You need a terminal emulator like Putty (free), and ssh to 192.168.1.1, login with (I believe ubnt/ubnt) then you can see current date by typing "date" and hitting enter, no quotes. To update the date, to do "date MMDDhhmmYY" ie: "date 1213161520" to set date to dec 12 2020 8:15pm, again without quotes.
@Ed-sh8jt
@Ed-sh8jt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks hopefully it wont come to this
@rhdtv2002
@rhdtv2002 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else said they just leave it alone for 30 minutes and then it comes up eventually
@thecreaser
@thecreaser 3 жыл бұрын
I've just migrated from an old Asus RT-N66U to a UDM Pro with two U6-Lite access points. I didn't stuggle so much as this video probably because the software is newer. It wasn't pain free though. The biggest issue was my IoT devices based on ESP8266: they connected at first, everything worked. Then at 3a.m. every day they stopped responding to my Home Assistant installation unless I restarted the UDM. The fix was to fix their IP addresses *and* switch off the "Wifi AI" scan function which was running at 3a.m daily.
@bryantubb5680
@bryantubb5680 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to upgrade my home network and have seen a few of your videos. But don’t really understand what can or needs to be done with the isp modem I have. Do I need to upgrade it?
@James-pt1fp
@James-pt1fp 4 жыл бұрын
Were you able to disconnect the UDM pro from Ubiquiti’s cloud services? I’m concerned if Ubiquiti gets compromised the UDM Pro could get hacked into remotely thus compromising all home network assets
@TomBabula
@TomBabula 4 жыл бұрын
I installed different ubiquity product 3 weeks ago, EdgeRouter X which I believe has similar power to USG but is more flexible and customizable in terms of features. Works perfect with my 300 mb cable connection.
@MehrdadGivehchi
@MehrdadGivehchi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I was very lucky as I didn’t have any issues installing this device.
@glenh2159
@glenh2159 3 жыл бұрын
I recently acquired the UDM pro, it was configured via a laptop and not the smartphone app. Biggest issue was it insisted there was no internet connected to the wan connection. After some carefully chosen words and inappropriate comments I connected the old router between the modem and the UDM Pro and was able to get everything going via the extra router. It was subsequently removed and everything is running fine. Now running a fiber connection and getting 900 mb+ upload and download speeds. Am looking at plans and separating things according to i.o.t. and other devices.
@robertobevinski2381
@robertobevinski2381 4 жыл бұрын
had Unifi for about 2 years now, Incredible, best ever had. I used to use Cisco Meraki but sick of paying annual fees and if lose connection to their cloud, you are screwed. I just purchased a DreamMachine to replace my existing UCS-PRO-4. Really had Zero reason to do this, the UCS-Pro-4 was solid as a rock. I was running IDS/IPS so the new speed features of IPS would be helpful. The first attempt to add the dream machine was a disaster, just like this video show, plus few more issues. Finally had the patience to do it again and worked. Just make sure your old cloud key is EXACT EXACT EXACT version of the latest firmware loaded to the dream machine. Even a minor version difference matters. I had the issue of when the setup of the dream machine was done it loaded xxxx.30 and my cloud was xxxx.32 so had to manually update the dream machine to get them equal. Why the dream machine during setup didn't load the latest is beyond me. Unifi should make this migration process easier. With the dream machine you are not only migrating over your cloud key, but your firewall. I also had an issue connecting to the internet, but i have a static IP and had to manually set that to be the dream machine WAN interface or would not work. also, whatever do, if you follow these instructions from unifi help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008976393-UniFi-How-to-Migrate-from-Cloud-Key-to-Cloud-Key-or-UDM don't wipe out your old cloud key, it might be the only way to go back to a working network. After my initial dream machine install failed, i went back to cloud key and all worked after like before. If would have wiped it, then would have needed to restore that device also. Only wipe it out when you think your migration is 100% done.
@brothertax
@brothertax 4 жыл бұрын
I do this song and dance every time I setup Unifi equipment. It's embarrassing but once it's setup, it's rock solid.
@alonzosmith6189
@alonzosmith6189 4 жыл бұрын
The UDM-Pro is working great on my home network. This is my 1st Unifi router.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
As I said, I think it's a pretty good product for initial setups.
@alonzosmith6189
@alonzosmith6189 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp agree 100%
@peterfixit7221
@peterfixit7221 4 жыл бұрын
pro tip, I ffound the main cause of the no internet connection during setup was the time being set incorrectly, just ssh in and change the time
@Kosh42EFG
@Kosh42EFG 4 жыл бұрын
My non-pro UDM setup fine first time. Though that was fresh new, not backup restore. Love it though, but a steep learning curve for a non-network person.
@iridiumflare
@iridiumflare 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you have a Christmas Lights ad in July xD
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
July may be slightly early, but the biggest mistake you can make is waiting until November to start planning.
@andrewlhoover
@andrewlhoover 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, considering the work involved in custom lighting, the timing seemed perfect.
@JBiss83
@JBiss83 4 жыл бұрын
Wanted a home and security network... Starting with a Dream Machine Pro. Hope this a good choice.
@salmanslim
@salmanslim 4 жыл бұрын
You could have used your modem wired with your laptop to download the 500meg file ?
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
No Ethernet on my laptop
@blondeguy08
@blondeguy08 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp who doesn’t carry a usb ethernet adapter???
@ajayasthana2217
@ajayasthana2217 4 жыл бұрын
After watching your videos I made my decision firm to upgrade my home network to unifi equipment’s . Very nice presentation . All best
@OlavAlexanderMjelde
@OlavAlexanderMjelde 4 жыл бұрын
My swap from cloud key+USG to Dream Machine Pro went as a dream. So what I did: 1) open up dream machine 2 box 2) connect an external network card to my mac 3) put a network cable between external network card and the dream machine (one of the network outputs) 4) opened up the setup page in my browser as per the quick start guide 5) now Dream Machine Pro said it needed a network connection to continue 6) put a wire into WAN in dream machine pro and moved this into my existing network 7) Dream machine pro said it needed update, I clicked yes. 8) Made an "full export" of my cloud key and put it on my Mac 9) Made an "config only" export of Cloud key and put it on my Mac 10) Into dream machine again after update, I coudlnt connect, so I removed the LAN cable between dream machine and existing network 11) Nwo I could connect again, so then I choose to restore full backup 12) After it was done and rebooted, I saw all historical data etc and everything looked fine in dream machine pro 13) unplugged my exisitng USG and Cloud key, put the dream machine pro where the USG was 14) Had to restart my managed switch So it was 14 steps including backup and verification, but it was done in less than an hour. Network downtime was equal to boot time of dream machine pro.
@AndrewMcClenaghan4182
@AndrewMcClenaghan4182 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with a cable modem. It appears related to a lot of cable networks use the devices Mac address as part of auth. Two options are leave everything off for 30min or contact your ISP to clear the mac address cache.
@gdreelin
@gdreelin 4 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly I did not have any issues with the setup. All was good!! Now you got to do update videos for the VLAN and Firewall settings....lol
@MattiWaarna
@MattiWaarna 2 жыл бұрын
How's it going two years later? Time for a 2 years later video?
@FusionSource
@FusionSource 4 жыл бұрын
Howsit, great video, I have been looking at the unifi network setup, this video is helping me with my decision. Thanks for sharing, keep them coming.
@kanes5105
@kanes5105 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm in the process of moving from Google WiFi to Ubiquiti, but I only have 42 IoT devices! I've made a few changes in my selection of devices since watching your videos. I look forward to the learning curve and digging into this, plus keeping my spouse happy without killing her internet access....lol
@ulaganath
@ulaganath 3 жыл бұрын
Does the wan failover only or load balance available. If not used for WAN can it be used as LAN . 10gig SFP+ could that be lAG enabled for faster network. Its been a year i think IPS would be out of beta. Does the 8 port lan support LAG functionality if so how many lan can be combined.
@markpriceful
@markpriceful 4 жыл бұрын
What about using the UDMP as a video recorder NVR? That seems to increase the value significantly.
@jerrybelloit9335
@jerrybelloit9335 4 жыл бұрын
I think so. You also have the choice of the size of the Drive to install in the UDM.
@escapethematrix5069
@escapethematrix5069 4 жыл бұрын
I had no problems at all. Everything worked great the first time. Only thing I would say is if you are going to do a factory reset, forget any devices you have adopted first or you will have to factory reset everything to re-adopt, a pain if they are cctv cameras.
@henricosolomon185
@henricosolomon185 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Rob. I bought Ubiquiti on your recommendation and it's been absolutely amazing.
@1800dontcare
@1800dontcare 4 жыл бұрын
The USG Security Gateway is more for home users and small businesses unless they are looking for a Controller, Gateway, Networking and UniFi Protect aside from that the Gen2Plus is perfect for Home and Small office installs the Dream Machine Pro is more for larger installs etc
@justdabull
@justdabull 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do an updated version of your VLANs and Firewall rules?
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, coming in late January.
@kunoclaes1707
@kunoclaes1707 3 жыл бұрын
Ow haha, i just packed out my UDM pro, installed it using a desktop restored the backup from my cloudkey and it worked. Only problem, devices got stun errors or adoption failed, after trying to manually ssh in the devices i discovered that my controller ip was not changed under settings so i must change that. But, that problem came from the fact that i was not using a UniFi router but a PfSense build.
@JaredWoodruff
@JaredWoodruff 4 жыл бұрын
My Experience; when it works it works well. the "when it works" is solely defined by what firmware it is running.
@MatSmithLondon
@MatSmithLondon 4 жыл бұрын
I currently use Untangle next-gen firewall installed on a virtual machine. There's an annual fee (very reasonable) but the functionality is far above the USG or DM from Unifi, there's content filtering, spam and intrusion prevention, excellent reporting. I'd like to have everything on the Unifi platform, but I threw my USG out in favour of Untangle a couple of years ago and have found it 100% reliable (although I'm running it on a proper Dell server in a VM, so I would expect good reliability)
@noobshortie9859
@noobshortie9859 4 жыл бұрын
My USG died this afternoon and I ordered the Dream Machine Pro. I will follow your tutorial how to migrate it. Hopefully it will be a smooth one.
@sparkedfire5469
@sparkedfire5469 4 жыл бұрын
Try to use a new power supply. I found out my power supply went bad on mine.
@thereason1010
@thereason1010 4 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear a not so positive review. Seemed a bit too good to be true the way others are talking about it.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I hope people can always count on is for me to be open and honest in my reviews.
@nathanddrews
@nathanddrews 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp That's why we subscribed! That and your straightforward directions and viewpoints.
@fishermansnook3415
@fishermansnook3415 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say the UDMP is not ready for deployment everywhere but as a hobbyist it has provided long hours of learning about networking. The firmware has a long way to go to catch up with the older Ubiquity controllers!
@thereason1010
@thereason1010 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Appreciate the quality content as always!
@xTheRebellion
@xTheRebellion 3 жыл бұрын
Rather than using mobile data, could you not have just connected to your isp modem?
@CubanDre
@CubanDre 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video series. I am a noob when it comes to this stuff. I set up my UDM-Pro and APs over the weekend without any issues. I am starting from scratch in a new home, and definitely would have been frustrated if I ran into these issues. I watched your series to get tips on the separate VLANs with my IoT and NoT devices and cover any gaps in my install. Thank you! Next step, is in a few weeks where I tackle Home Assistant. In my old home I was using Smartthings/ActionTiles
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
Glad your setup went without issues!
@FinallyEve
@FinallyEve 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously crazy how relevant these videos are to me! Thanks again!
@djr093r5
@djr093r5 Жыл бұрын
My issue is the loss of internet bandwidth on the USG when many or all of the security features are turned on. They're kind of necessary, since there is a remote backup system connected via an always-on site-to-site VPN. But, with the security features enabled, my internet speed is throttled from 1Gbps to less than 100Mbps. More than likely, I'll be upgrading to a UDM or UDM Pro...
@jerrybelloit9335
@jerrybelloit9335 4 жыл бұрын
Three weeks ago I installed a UDM pro for my daughter. I connected six cameras, an UniFi POE switch and a unify HD AP. I had seen yours and other videos on the problems connecting to the internet. I used the AP and Bluetooth to set it up. Once the cables were connected, to my surprise, it found the cable internet connection, cameras, switch, and HD AP. Ten minutes naming the cameras, Network, setting security and I was done. I wonder is the difficulty could be a function of the ISP or their modem.
@ibiubu99
@ibiubu99 4 жыл бұрын
I have a couple dead spots in my home, but ran cat-5 to those spots, plus I need to nano beam across a road to my barn about 900 feet away. Is the dream pro for me? Will it work with nano beam?
@emmettbradford6983
@emmettbradford6983 4 жыл бұрын
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@rogersmj
@rogersmj 4 жыл бұрын
"Luckily I got to experience ALL those problems, and a few more..." Thank you for your sacrifice. I am about 2 months way from an entirely new UniFi network setup and now I'm wondering whether I should take a chance on this thing or get the older separate components.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't own anything yet, I think the UDM-Pro is still the right choice.
@jimparrie9708
@jimparrie9708 4 жыл бұрын
I just installed a UDM Pro last weekend. I used my desktop PC to do the setup and everything went well. None of the problems shown above. I have seen others complain about issues when setting up on the phone app, that's why I avoided it. I'm quite happy so far at one week in.
@rogersmj
@rogersmj 4 жыл бұрын
Well I wound up getting a UDM-Pro for my all-new UniFi setup at my new house, and I set it up with my phone (didn't have a PC handy yet). Everything went perfectly other than one reboot I did for it to pick up a new IP after I activated pass-through mode on my Comcast modem. Very convenient to have the phone app to do the setup in my situation.
@Ed-sh8jt
@Ed-sh8jt 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting did you just connect a ethernet cable from desktop to any port on UDM Pro? and just ping the IP the UDM Pro address to start the setup process?
@HunterLaska
@HunterLaska 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the UDM-Pro since February. There have been more issues with this device compared to when I was using a cloud key. Devices don't de-auth on wireless and get assigned to the trunk port. The app doesn't connect while remote. The it gets locked up usually and I need to reboot it and 1 of 10 times I have to reset it... I want to love this thing but I'm having a hard time. On the flip side, I asked my brother to get the original UDM and he can only say nice things about it. He has no issues at all. The one reason I would give myself to switch back to my pfsense firewall would be for the advance firewall rule configuration, that's something unifi is not so great with.
@hitechhooligan
@hitechhooligan 4 жыл бұрын
I have the UDM-pro and I've had the trouble booting message show up one time when I lost power. In my case all I did was cycle power again and it booted with no issue. With all of the problems people are saying they have I am just glad I must have gotten lucky with mine.
@GrassDaddy
@GrassDaddy 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't have any issues with my UDMP besides some stats being wrong on the client analytics but that has since been fixed.
@rockcop222
@rockcop222 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting...I didn't have any problems setting up mine. My install was very easy.
@emmettbradford6983
@emmettbradford6983 4 жыл бұрын
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@hardtimes4521
@hardtimes4521 3 жыл бұрын
Do you use your UDM Pro for NVR, and if yes, can it be hooked on a different POE cams or it has to be Unifi cams. Thank you so much, and keep the good work.
@Anaesthetist98
@Anaesthetist98 3 жыл бұрын
How can the UDM know that the firewall rules on your server block the connections? It can only know whether its allowed by your Unifi firewall rules, so as far as it is aware the connection is allowed.
@TomBabula
@TomBabula 4 жыл бұрын
are you still keeping in production or have taken it off due to reoccurring issues with It?
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 4 жыл бұрын
I RMAed my dream machine pro and haven’t had time to reinstall the new one.
@Erufailos
@Erufailos 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp We're going to set up a new network in a new house latest next summer and we're almost decided on Uniquiti. Would you say the UDM Pro would be worth it for new installation and what else would be needed on top? Maybe you can do a follow-up when you get the time and new UDM?
@jorgegomez374
@jorgegomez374 4 жыл бұрын
I am planning on buying the UDM (not pro), already have one access point and the 16 Poe switch (got it at half price), have a 2 floor house the only problem I see if the AP will cover the upper floor were I plan on put it and hopping the DM will be enough for the first floor
@thesinofthetin
@thesinofthetin 4 жыл бұрын
IPS is a IDS but blocks threats. Someone might be trying to attack those devices and on that specific port. It's probably just letting you know.
@smartlifesystems
@smartlifesystems 4 жыл бұрын
it looks like deployment procedure should be printed and in the box. 😀 Mine looked exactly the same as yours.
@DaleBewley
@DaleBewley 4 жыл бұрын
Frequently hangs on BlueJeans and Webex calls even when hardwired and with basically every feature disabled. Wiring around UDMP to the ATT fixes the issue! Didn’t have this with USG. Have had two hangs in middle of the day requiring a restart. On restart bing on boot and required a power cycle. Had similar issue at initial setup but not as severe. The video conferencing issue is a major deal breaker in recommending the UDMP.
@cloudcultdev
@cloudcultdev 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great review. It was straight to the point, and I liked that. I tried the UDMP when it came out, and there were so many bugs I had to get rid of it. Skype for business just straight up dropped connection for both me and my wife for weeks. Ultimately I dump the UDMP for pfSense and magically everything started working. The UDMP turned me from a UBNT fanboy to a bitter detractor from the lineup. I hope change my mind at some point.
@Hands-onNow
@Hands-onNow 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any of your old unify stuff for sale or to give away?
@dcashio
@dcashio 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great content! I've learn a lot from your videos. I currently have a Orbi mesh system and I'm looking to upgrade. What are you thoughts on mesh vs. a unifi setup?
@slam5
@slam5 3 жыл бұрын
After one year, is the new firmware make the whole process a lot better? I have dual wan and my own wifi router that I like to use. Will the udm-pro work nice with them. I also has a qnap and synlogy nas as well as a raspberry pi. Right now, it is working very nicely with a Cisco small business router.
@spencerbigum1309
@spencerbigum1309 4 жыл бұрын
Def agree. Mine works well now that I finally got it up and running. However my SFP port has stopped working and now I am using a regular network cable to link up my switch :(
@fishermansnook3415
@fishermansnook3415 4 жыл бұрын
I use a dual wan setup for failover. I have 10g and 1g fiber to the home. The SFP+ (WAN2) supports the 10 g and WAN the 1g. Running version 1.7.2 allows WAN 2 as primary and WAN as failover. It takes a bit of turning off the interfaces and reselecting them again in the right order to get it setup but it works fine now.
@rogerjones9984
@rogerjones9984 4 жыл бұрын
@@fishermansnook3415 Is there guide any where on how to do this? I have (sort of) the opposite problem to you - My backup WAN is a 50 Mbs VDSL line and its Modem only supports Fast Ethernet - the WAN2 port won't support anything below 1G ethernet, so I currently have to run it via a 1G switch. Being able to reverse the WAN connections would solve the issue since the RJ45 WAN port can connect to Fast Ethernet
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 48 port switch as well from unify just bought this machine how would you connect to the switch to avoid bottle necks
@beaker2000
@beaker2000 3 жыл бұрын
I am upgrading my USG to a Pro because I need it for my Ubiquiti camera system. Not a lot of other options
@nomoreangelz
@nomoreangelz 3 жыл бұрын
I got my Dream Machine Pro a few months ago and so happy i did not have any of these issues. It would have been a nightmare for me.
@jmhm17
@jmhm17 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I was lucky but I didn't run into a single issue setting mine up. I did the same research as you and prepared for it. The only thing I did different was not use the app. I'm also wondered if its the app/bt causing most of the issues? Also why could you not just connect your pc to your modem and download the firmware?
@zestwork6130
@zestwork6130 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thanks for going over both the pros and cons of the device!
@NzTim
@NzTim 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to UniFi network ( still yet to buy anything ) . My end game here is to have Camera system and wireless access points. Read somewhere the DMP doesn't have PoE so would I need a network cable from the DMP to a PoE Switch then have all my devices ( Cameras / Wireless ap ) plug into the Switch.
@Logan-ml2dt
@Logan-ml2dt 3 жыл бұрын
If you have any remote devices connected with a vpn would they reconnect or need to be updated at that site? Not sure if you would know but figured id ask
@mattrogers6565
@mattrogers6565 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Rob, I was in exactly the same position as you almost 2 weeks ago! My USG3 kept falling over due to the Threat Management side, so I had to have that disabled. With that in mind I decided to send back my USG3 and Cloud Key Gen2, and replace them with a UDM Pro. I had the same problem with it not detecting the internet, however that seemed to fix itself after 20 minutes of trying. Then I had a different experience than you with the backup/restore saga. My Cloud Key Gen 2 was up to date and so was the UDM Pro, however I kept getting the error saying the versions were incorrect when trying to restore. I ended up forgetting the backup and after the UDM Pro was set-up I manually added all the stuff again! So I think in all I probably spent about 4 hours of pain until the system looked the same as my USG3. Mind you I have IPS running and only about 20% Utilisation on the UDM Pro, so I will mark that up as a win. Whether theres going to be problems down the line, i'm expecting them, however hopefully the pro's will out shine the cons!
@codykonior
@codykonior 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you please explain the backplane? I read that it's only 1Gbps, but I I don't understand how that's possible if the the SFP can do 10Gbps and the IDS can do 3.5Gbps.
@emmettbradford6983
@emmettbradford6983 4 жыл бұрын
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