CORRECTION: The map at 0:20 should have shown a path from LAX to LHR. LAS was incorrectly entered into the map generator.
@fahque63518 күн бұрын
We at LAS made it in a video!
@Tpr_180818 күн бұрын
@@fahque635 never again😭
@MkurugenziMwenyekiti19 күн бұрын
And at 2:00 the primary video display entered into a degraded state.
@Reaz74119 күн бұрын
LOL😂😂😂
@StormFanatic21019 күн бұрын
ORD and IAH have all the Maintenance Facilities that United could ever need. Diverting to one of those two Airports if safe to do so, is the best decision to make.
@d.b.cooper116 күн бұрын
Yeah but mayday was a bit of a reach, if it’s a mayday you look to get it down asap, not overtly other airports
@Tpr_180819 күн бұрын
Los Angeles is LAX. UA doesn't have a hub in Vegas
@Tina-d8f19 күн бұрын
Makes sense to navigate to a maintenance hub if possible.
@sainnt19 күн бұрын
Most airlines, given a choice, will prefer to fly to the nearest hub, because they can usually get a replacement aircraft to continue the trip.
@brad952918 күн бұрын
Yes, saving them money. It shouldn't be allowed.
@Michael_K_Woods18 күн бұрын
@@brad9529no dopey, it saves the passengers time and money. If I’m 24 hours late to my checkin the hotel isn’t giving me a free extra day.
@sainnt18 күн бұрын
@@brad9529It's actually better for passengers, because flying to such a big airport means they will have plenty of flights to be rebooked to, and the airline has the infrastructure to get the aircraft back in the air. If they don't believe they can get the aircraft back they would never attempt it.
@brad952918 күн бұрын
@sainnt yeah, it's definitely more convenient for everyone. However, it's a dangerous risk. Flights have crashed from doing such things. I'd personally rather be inconvenienced than risk dying.
@sainnt18 күн бұрын
@@brad9529 That's not true, at least not with modern airliners. Most pilots know what to do. A couple of years ago, an Emirates A380 en route to New Zealand turned around halfway there and went back to Dubai. At first it seems ridiculous, but it's better for everyone for them to put those passengers in another A380 and not only get those passengers to their destination safely, but also be able to pick up all the passengers coming back. No pilot will risk their own life just to save an airline money.
@nonsibisedipsi681219 күн бұрын
It makes perfect sense. Especially since ORD is a maintenance hub. Also, on your map, you put LAS, which is Las Vegas.
@SimpleFlyingNews19 күн бұрын
Yes thanks for letting us know. We’ve pinned a comment to highlight the error and correction.
@TomCarter-s8s19 күн бұрын
Smart to go to hub, maint. & available 787 to continue
@paulm136519 күн бұрын
If they lost two screens they still have three, plus their HUD’s, plus their back up instruments.
@thepenmen2219 күн бұрын
I had a similar experience, but instead our captain decided to land right away, and it was a huge mess. Story time: We flew from Asia and had a connection from Amsterdam to Detroit. As we entered North America, pilots said our left engine's anti ice was not working, and with the weather above north eastern US, they couldn't continue due to risk of ice entering the engine. So they landed right away at Happy Valley Goose Bay, somewhere in north east Canada. Had the plane at least entered the US, we could have done customs and flew back on some other US carrier. But instead, we were stuck on a military base for several hours, with no customs, and no plane to take us back. We had to wait for another A330 to arrive, but when it did, the new pilots timed out on their duty day. So we had to sit on the plane for several more hours. Passengers were screaming and it was a bad experience for everyone. Then Delta decided to ask the Canadian military to allow us to sleep for a few hours at their barracks, which they did after deplaning us very slowly and checking our documents. The next day, another smaller plane arrived with Delta representatives, plenty of food was given to us there in the morning. Then we finally flew to Detroit. Had the pilot entered the US, it might have been a lot smoother for us. Do I think the pilot did the right thing even if it caused that much chaos? Likely yes in the chance of an engine failure, but wow was it a mess. Delta refunded our tickets and also gave us another free trip.
@alphadiallo165518 күн бұрын
At least you made it home. Better than forcing and be in trouble..
@MichaelM-uw3mk19 күн бұрын
Map is wrong. This is like the 4th video I've seen where the map is wrong.
@AnotherPointOfView94419 күн бұрын
Medieval pilgrimage maps?
@reubenmorris48719 күн бұрын
The first officer's PFD/ND were obviously still functional, along with the ISFD, and navigation. We don't really know why the displays "degraded" or malfunctioned; you'd have to wait for the reports to come out. The pilots did the best thing and got the jet and everybody to ORD safely.
@wshnus19 күн бұрын
I think the pilot made the right decision to fly to Chicago, as long as the plane can continue to fly, I don't think that's an issue. If they divert to Canada the logistics will be a chaos, they need to find a plane to ferry the passengers and that will take a while. In Chicago, that's their hub so it will be much easier to find another aircraft and crew.
@storminnormin465119 күн бұрын
Pilots did the right thing after it was determined that they COULD make it to ORD safely. Which is the name of the game. UNITED pilots are well trained and seasoned, they have my utmost respect and confidence.
@HenriqueCarneiroM18 күн бұрын
The decision to divert back to O'Hare makes total sense to me as a pilot, though an emergency was declared it was not a critical situation...Operationally speaking: O'Hare is a major United hub and you'd have all the company's infrastructure to provide maintenance to the aircraft and to the customers, if they went off base (which should be considered if the situation required of course), that could become a major costly hurdle the airline.
@LMays-cu2hp18 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this incident.😊
@zia78678618 күн бұрын
Question isn’t why they diverted to ORD. Question is the mayday call
@raghavannatarajan532018 күн бұрын
The pilots cleverness saved the life of entire passengers. God bless him for timely action.
@CogitoTesting19 күн бұрын
Mayday means you land at the nearest airport. Assuming your hub is not the nearest airport and then fly all the way to your hub after declaring mayday makes no sense.
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
Was it a mayday, or Pan Pan Pan?
@nachoman219 күн бұрын
@@jantjarks7946 it was a mayday
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
@@nachoman2 Thx!
@flywithjohn19 күн бұрын
What makes no sense is landing at the nearest suitable airport for a loss of navigation capability and stranding the passengers at a small candidate outstation that doesn’t have the appropriate passenger handling facilities. Pilots can declare an emergency and cancel the emergency based on the current status of what’s happening. The airplane was safe and perfectly capable of going to ORD. It took an intermediate international destination out of the matrix. It meant not dumping fuel. And there was appropriate passenger handling facilities. It was a good decision.
@CogitoTesting19 күн бұрын
@@flywithjohn Mayday is NOT a joke. Declaring mayday means saving the lives of passengers and crew become the ultimate priority; landing at the nearest airport accomplishes just that. In that context, passengers inconveniences become an after-thought.
@seagullsbtn19 күн бұрын
@ 2:00 in video you have a disruption in the video and audio quality. Time for SF to squawk 7700.
@kimsmoke1717 күн бұрын
So ok, what people don’t realize is that northern Manitoba, and northern Ontario are unpopulated. They could have landed at Churchill, Manitoba, population 1000. The runway in Churchill is 9200 feet, but what do you do with the PAX? Have them Sleep on the plane, or in cots in CAF barracks/hangers? North Bay Ontario has a 10,000 ft runway, but same issue. That far north, there are no other runways that could accept the aircraft. Winnipeg, MB has two long runways, and has an air Canada line maintenance hanger, but the techs there may not know the type…. If you’re already safe to make it to Winnipeg, might as well get to Chicago, where United can rebook everyone quickly, and fix the airplane themselves…. It’s that simple folks.
@alooga55519 күн бұрын
In the back of the DC-8 cockpit, there was a work desk for an aviator and a small “skylight” on the ceiling for astronomical observations. It allowed the navigator to determine the plane's current location by inserting a sextant into the skylight and observing the stars and the sun.
@jamesx495219 күн бұрын
Isn’t this the second time the displays when blank on the 787 this year I think a Latam 787 had the same problem
@DustinPearce295719 күн бұрын
Which one though? Is it the one who got devastated with the crazy turbulence or is it different flight?
@SimonButler19 күн бұрын
From what I understand, you have to cycle the FMCs every 21 days or something or this degraded mode can happen. It's not great that it's required, but it's a known issue and easy to avoid if it's tracked on the maintenance log.
@FlyByWire118 күн бұрын
You might be thinking of the LATAM 787 that had a sudden descent while in cruise. We later found out that was a result of a flight attendant leaning on the back of the pilot’s seat and engaging the seat control that pushed the pilot forward into the yoke.
@DustinPearce295718 күн бұрын
@@FlyByWire1 Yup, that's the one.
@FlyByWire117 күн бұрын
@@DustinPearce2957 yep, I’m pretty sure the FAA just issued a global directive for 787 operators to replace cockpit seats where the switch covering has come off and the seat control switch is exposed.
@nikobelic425119 күн бұрын
Bruh everyone crapping on Boeing, this could very well be and probably was a maintenance issue not a manufacturing issue
@todortodorov605619 күн бұрын
Nobody is pointing the finger at Boeing. But this could very well turn out to be and probably is another manufacturing issue, not a maintenance issue.
@nikobelic425119 күн бұрын
@@todortodorov6056 There are many comments here that point the finger at Boeing. The aircraft is 9 years old, it has gone through C check multiple times. More than likely this isn’t a manufacturing issue.
@greenesyt56318 күн бұрын
show me a single comment mocking Boeing for this
@nikobelic425118 күн бұрын
@@greenesyt563 Watch what you wish for…. 14H ago EuropeanrailfanAlt: “I hope this isn’t Boeing’s fault because the plane is 9 years old” 11H ago kkrsnn5632: “786 Surpriseliner” 15H ago drjesusbalanc638: “😂 Boeing never disappoints” 15H ago jantjarks7946: “Boeing has entered degraded mode… … since MDD merger 😂” 9H ago MrHav1K: “Oh great, ANOTHER problem with Boeing. Lmao…” 15H ago shoutyshouty: “Boeing Taking dark mode to the extreme” 6H ago paintedpony2935: “If it’s Boeing I’m not going” Shall I continue? Because I have more.
@ndirangugichuki626018 күн бұрын
@@greenesyt563Exactly, I haven't read any
@markusknight19 күн бұрын
This same aircraft was also involved in another incident recently. On Jul 12, the landing gear failed to retract and was forced to return to JNB quickly after takeoff.
@nathanlembke902619 күн бұрын
Not the first time it’s happened to Airbus A320s too
@IrnBruXtra19 күн бұрын
Lufthansa and South African Airlines have put more A340-600s back into service to replace A320 and Boeings. If you are from the USA could Yellowstone Caldera be releasing toxic chemicals into the atmosphere causing engine and computer problems?
@mcmuffin-z5v18 күн бұрын
@@IrnBruXtra tf are you saying
@wickedpawn543719 күн бұрын
Isn't this the same thing that happened to the Latam 787 pilots mid-air on the way to Australia?
@mmm040419 күн бұрын
That's what they said , but that's not actually what happened. The pilot seat was mistakenly adjusted into the flight controls , causing the aircraft to dive. Nothing went blank
@alanw.451116 күн бұрын
To avoid upsetting the aircraft's AI or flight computer, let's call this an unplanned, technology professional day.
@平和-v1z19 күн бұрын
Very informative as always!
@tedsmart553919 күн бұрын
NO - it's loaded with false information.
@dasmellyyooper19 күн бұрын
What would have been closer that could have handled a 787? Not just one, but 2? Minneapolis, Winnipeg? Neither have super large presences from United. Plus it would have been contracted MX for diagnostics and a road crew for repair, hotels for the passengers and crew, and needing to find a new crew. The crew didn't feel the need to get down quickly then be AOG, so they chose the best option. ORD has everything they need to get back to the skies ASAP
@ronparrish666619 күн бұрын
Winnipeg and Calgary can handle the aircraft with air Canada same as a few years ago United flight going over to Europe had a emergency stop in Toronto when the pilot spilled his coffee over the instruments and Air Canada fixed it in Toronto they can handle United aircraft
@eamonahern749518 күн бұрын
@ronparrish6666 the lack of punctuation makes your comment difficult to read
@ndirangugichuki626018 күн бұрын
@@eamonahern7495no it's not
@shannondoidgemedium18 күн бұрын
Toronto was much closer. Also Winnipeg has an airport that can handle a 787-9.
@riopato200918 сағат бұрын
Sons of Maxwell brought me here from a video made 15 years ago
@sarahivsutterb74719 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think it's better to have the cockpits of the old-fashioned way like that one of the Boeing 747-100 or other aircraft's like that one! I think these old-fashioned cockpits are more reliable than the new ones! Just a thought about it!
@marcd689714 күн бұрын
No.
@Renaissancemutant19 күн бұрын
Another Condition Completely Unhelpful To Purpose.😮
@karlp848419 күн бұрын
Is this the second time a Boeing has had a "instrument blank" happening this year? Was the other one where the plane pitched downwards because they said it was a seat problem? Irrespective of the seat thingy, the pilots reported an instrument blackout.
@EuropeanRailfanAlt19 күн бұрын
I hope this isn't Boeing's fault because the plane is 9 years old
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
isnt.
@kedricjackson229918 күн бұрын
The Pilots made a good decision. MAYDAY! All safety and focus are on this particular plane. Navigation did not start with digital components. Great job, United Pilots!
@bearcubdaycare19 күн бұрын
Maybe it was simpler to navigate nearly due south, than some other direction, given the lack of normal instrument displays?
@ivangeo331919 күн бұрын
We have become so dependent on electricity so much that makes me fearful of 'if electricity no more ' for a time or extensive time, like after a natural disaster.
@d.b.cooper116 күн бұрын
Declaring a mayday seemed odd. Did they later correct it to a pan pan? I get it why they went to Chicago, but you’d never do that in a true mayday.
@stevejcoop18 күн бұрын
Seems logical to fly to a service Center . Probably motivated by cost saving
@peterdelight51315 күн бұрын
I though Los Angeles was LAX not LAS
@spyderlogan499219 күн бұрын
This is not a Mayday situation. It is a Pan Pan situation, serious but not life threatening as per FAA guidelines. In my opinion.
@mikeyriley895918 күн бұрын
Unless there’s more to the story, I agree. But if you don’t land at your destination, you must land at your alternate. Unless you declare an emergency OR get a reanalysis from dispatch and re-release.
@ThePrimeYeeter19 күн бұрын
this is just United's maintenance fault at this point, really
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
You know that for sure because you made it up while writing. 😂
@lennywallace920119 күн бұрын
@@jantjarks7946 no its because every united flight out of california seems to be bugged
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
And that counts for Delta and Latam too, who had the same issue popping up? Let me guess, your United bias already decided what the truth has to be. Or is it a Boeing bias? 😂
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
only latam is boeings fault..the rest is maintenance daily mail journalist.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
in fact every flight in america seems to be.....
@pettz1818 күн бұрын
doesn’t surprise me. it’s a boeing!
@Trent-s7k10 күн бұрын
Exactly the same thing happened to an Airbus yesterday..oops.😮
@ruimigueldiassilva16 күн бұрын
The captain thought in the passengers and in all the problems that would happen if landed in Canadá, the mayday issue i don’t nothing about it.
@sqpilot6307419 күн бұрын
The 787 have 6 large display which are interchangeable and when one display goes blank, you can switch the display pfd to nd or eicas from captain or FO. No danger but it’s just that United finds it easier to conduct maintenance at hub. Usually the filter gets clog because of dust get sucked in and creates blockage and overheat the display.
@davidkavanagh18918 күн бұрын
Look on the bright side. At least Americans are learning how to say Mayday. Baby steps!
@zlm00116 күн бұрын
Declare an Emergency or Mayday and the run your checklists to find out it doesn’t require landing immediately. O’Hare has the maintenance, but getting a replacement plane and slot should be easier from the hub as well. If safety isn’t compromised, it’s a win-win. Well that’s how you sell it at least. It might have been faster to finish the flight, and the airline saves money on maintenance and the replacement flight arrangements. CREAM, that’s the real reason.
@jongallant605418 күн бұрын
They did the right thing landing in America.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
id love to hear that one person to say ''this is the latest controversy to involve boeing planes'' when its probably united back at it with their maintenance.
@cameraman65519 күн бұрын
OK, ask and you shall receive….Just another Boeing issue, they really need to shut the company down, they’re becoming a hazard to aviation…oh, Boeing, not United.
@uzilowenthal194618 күн бұрын
I think that flying back to the fully technically equipped home base was correct. Re; the ma
@TheBryson15819 күн бұрын
So did the flight originate from lax or las?
@qazinadeemkamal81618 күн бұрын
If other wise air craft was for as flying and alternate Nav tools were available and Flying Crew was well converst with those than landing at home base was ok but insted of Mayday call Priority Call could have been given.
@angelavanhorn232518 күн бұрын
I was little concern going to Chicago, (past) however, O'Hare have great services and good citizen there. I was proud of OHare airport ...
@dennisodonnell122018 күн бұрын
Send all bills to smple flying. They will like that.
@brad952918 күн бұрын
Bad judgement call. There could have been an unknown problem causing the issue. They should have put it down at the nearest airport, anything else is irresponsible, its all about money and Chicago would have saved them a ton of money. Money before safety.
@tonyhull497818 күн бұрын
Exactly, a Mayday is a mayday.
@ClarencegHamm12 күн бұрын
Good old failing union craftsmanship
@kkrsnn563219 күн бұрын
786 Surpriseliner
@marksman87543718 күн бұрын
Should’ve gone to Winnipeg or Edmonton
@mcmuffin-z5v18 күн бұрын
And then how would they repair the aircraft
@dewyakana154319 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm never flying on any Boeing. I don't need the drama. A THREE YEAR OLD JET?
@drjesubalan63919 күн бұрын
😂Boeing never disappoints
@Zinedine-t9n19 күн бұрын
😮
@DavidMuriuki-en7jw19 күн бұрын
Boeing: WHY ALWAYS ME?
@shoutyshouty19 күн бұрын
Boeing - Taking dark mode to the extreme.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
maintenance
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
Boeing entered a degraded mode.... ... since the MDD merger. 😂
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
not beoings fault.maintenance
@jantjarks794619 күн бұрын
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z I don't know, who maintains the MDD management at Boeing? 😂
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
What is MDD management?mcdonnel douglas?they were ok,but they were a competitor,glad they were sucked in by boeing
@MrHav1k19 күн бұрын
KEKW
@Katie-c6p19 күн бұрын
Hail Mary.
@PakaBubi19 күн бұрын
Boeing... I was on a Qantas 787 flight from PER to LHR that was cancelled because of an issue that could not be fixed till the following day. Yeah...
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
probably maintenance.
@paintedpony293519 күн бұрын
If it's Boeing, I'm not going!
@MrHav1k19 күн бұрын
Oh great, ANOTHER problem with Boeing. LMao....
@niteowlification19 күн бұрын
This was not a life and death emergency.
@tomg628419 күн бұрын
Should have went to 1st suitable airport. Bad call by ops. Captain Should have said no we are going here not Chicago.. what if things cascaded now you are foooked.
@James-bc1jk18 күн бұрын
How can a company kill 600 people and nothing happen
@emypena19 күн бұрын
Probably due to some loose scew or missing screw....
@rampar7716 күн бұрын
It was aMafda,ot PanPan. it also siad the piot PMD was dark, not the first officer, and they ahd dispay n top panel for navation
@cherifbar19 күн бұрын
I don’t trust modern Avionics or GPS. I NEVER DID AND I NEVER WILL.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
i will
@qazinadeemkamal81618 күн бұрын
Read the Philosophy of Accidents Rate
@minzawone18 күн бұрын
Never ending Boeing Problems
@mcmuffin-z5v18 күн бұрын
Never ending Boeing haters, I bet you didn’t even watch the entire video to actually understand what happened, maybe instead of being brain washed by media and actually do some independent research out of your comfort zone and you’ll find that this happens on both airbus and Boeing aircraft and it’s actually happened more on airbus don’t form an opinion from media bias.
@marksman87543718 күн бұрын
Or could’ve made it to Toronto? Air Canada is a star alliance partner with maintenance facilities that could have helped the company
@kevinwong198819 күн бұрын
As if Boeing doesn't have enough problem in their hand already.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
maintenance
@Patrickair444419 күн бұрын
Ontario is a state
@TimBoulton-zd2dw19 күн бұрын
No it isn't, it's a province.
@thomasnorb407719 күн бұрын
"Canada has ten provinces and three territories".
@hughofIreland19 күн бұрын
Not yet; it’s our largest national park.
@AbdullahNajib-b9z19 күн бұрын
isnt this like.....completely off topic?
@niteowlification19 күн бұрын
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Who cares ? I love talking about Canada.
@fredericmarohn-bh4qr19 күн бұрын
More Boeing aircrafts A COFFIN GOING SOMEPLACE TO CRASH GO AIRBUS❤❤
@pruthvipurohit486419 күн бұрын
Again Boeing 😂😂😂
@Germanlepoard2a7v18 күн бұрын
Bruh it's an maintenance issue dumass
@user-sh8ge7gr6u17 күн бұрын
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA LAUGH AT BOEING HAHAHAHHAHAAHA
@MeaHeaR18 күн бұрын
Iph its Bóiñgg I IZZA ĶŇÕTT ĢOIEŃG 😟😰😩😰😟😰😩😟😰😰😩😨😨😨😨😨😨😧😧😳😵😶😵😳😨😨😳😵😶😶😵
@d.b.cooper116 күн бұрын
Declaring a mayday seemed odd. Did they later correct it to a pan pan? I get it why they went to Chicago, but you’d never do that in a true mayday.