Thanks to Adam McKola, Grizz Khan and Thogden for taking part
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
Yo, do you even know football? Where is Giggs? Totally unacceptable. Are you kids or what? Go play fifa and leave real football pls.
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
Vidic two time ( the player of the season ) no defender have ever done that in the Premier league. Where is he in your stupid lineup. Otherwise you must do 5 or 11 players as subs if you don't mention these players, totally unacceptable!
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
NO NO NO totally unacceptable, recreate the video and don't forget Giggs next time . How dare you? Unforgivable.
@KTK442 жыл бұрын
@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 Men who beats up women are not allowed on any team. Sorry not sorry. His legacy is trashed now. He'll be remembered for nothing but a brute.
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
@@KTK44 Idc about his attitude outside of the pitch. I care about what he has done AS A PLAYER, which is our discussion here, so go away.
@vashishthrajyaguru57762 жыл бұрын
I love this Liverpool Fan...his patience levels are so good and he is so humble...btw i am a Utd Fan
@XavierJAlexander2 жыл бұрын
Tbh they need to be if it’s all time premier league eta
@harrymillward71352 жыл бұрын
Grizz is a legend
@farhanahmed2112 жыл бұрын
both were awesome, respecting each others opinion
@iso4602 жыл бұрын
@HONEST MAN UTD FAN Don't be a clown. Some fans just have the right behavior and you can respect them, even if it's a rival
@ethankinsler44112 жыл бұрын
Grizz is a class act
@rammus56722 жыл бұрын
As I United Fan, I can say this liverpool fan is absolute class! Conducted himself very professionally and calmly. I cant say the same for Adam. Also Gerrard walks into any 11, it shouldn't even be a debate
@MrVinjex2 жыл бұрын
Gerrard had the most EPL team of the year inclusions and this was whilst Scholes and Keane were in the league. As a United fan, I hate how much I like Gerrard
@ebubeejiogu8202 жыл бұрын
Clearly not a United fan. Shut up
@amurphy40042 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I'm a united fan too. Liverpool fan respected the right choice.
@joshuabarry19722 жыл бұрын
Yep you know ball mate
@LoCoAde872 жыл бұрын
Peak Fergie and Mou wanted Gerrard. Says it all really.
@handono53822 жыл бұрын
This is one of the healthiest conversations about football ever. Given the topic is about Manchester United and Liverpool. The success and the rivalry between them. I love this. The debate and argument are reasonably good and not biased at all.
@Hekka1012 жыл бұрын
I feel like if the Liverpool fan had been a bit more firm he could have gotten more players in the team but I don’t think he cares because he just wanted to have a calm debate
@r4h4al2 жыл бұрын
@@Hekka101 Nah I think the ratio was spot on.
@Hekka1012 жыл бұрын
@@r4h4al i think you are a bit of a weirdo
@source25312 жыл бұрын
@@Hekka101 Pretty sure he's not trying to "ratio" u
@Hekka1012 жыл бұрын
@@source2531 well whether he is trying or not he isnt
@eoinmallon62072 жыл бұрын
As a huge Man Utd fan, I have so much respect for the Liverpool fan. Honest man, fair play!
@FootballKhanage2 жыл бұрын
Was a pleasure doing this 🙌🏽
@jordandunn68142 жыл бұрын
Legend Grizz
@marioenah75022 жыл бұрын
Great work Grizz! Absolutely did us proud.
@PontyP2 жыл бұрын
Top class as always grizz! The best representative for us Liverpool fans on social media as always 👍
@thecornerfla92 жыл бұрын
Man knows his stuff...always great watching your football chats
@azlankhan41722 жыл бұрын
You did really well mate. I feel Alison could have gotten in the team because he will likely continue his successes into his mid to late 30's and if you have Van Dijk you gotta have Alison.
@eoinoshea31512 жыл бұрын
Glad they didn’t completely disrespect Rooney by not leaving him out of the team like they did do in the arsenal one
@conorryan23922 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, think in that utd, arsenal one, Andy Tate missed a beat, they went into stats for those seasons and Rooney had more assists than bergkamp had g+a that season
@GhengisGoon2 жыл бұрын
Only deluded English fans think Rooney is better then Bergkamp
@harrishba37072 жыл бұрын
@@GhengisGoon he is better you're the delusional one
@callum641512 жыл бұрын
In the arsenal one the united fan couldn’t even debate cos the arsenal fan was delusional and wouldn’t hear anyones opinion
@AlexZouhehe2 жыл бұрын
@@GhengisGoon lmao. Would you believe me if the footballing world considers arsenal fans some of the most difficult, childish and awkward people to talk to? I don't think you would. I think aftv is a good representation of you lot and i dont mean that in a nice way. And Rooney slightly edges bergkamp tbf.
@BigWes952 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the teams they've done on here this is probably the only one where I've agreed with most of it
@theanfieldsultan2 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo out cantona in
@jdc63542 жыл бұрын
@@theanfieldsultan Ronaldo one season was better than eric cantona whole career
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
Are you a kid just started watching football yesterday? How can you agree while the greatest player of the Premier history isn't here? Ryan Giggs. Go play fifa kids ok leave real football pls don't make people laugh at you.
@BigWes952 жыл бұрын
@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 if you think giggs was better than ronaldo then you need to give your head a wobble. He was never the best player in the league at any point of his career. Never even really that close
@moe.moe.codgamer51252 жыл бұрын
@@BigWes95 yo, they are talking about the Premier league not La Liga, are you dumb enough or dont listen to their video? Ronaldo spent most of his career and achievements in la liga. Give yourself 2 minutes to learn about Ryan Giggs pls 😂😭
@teddy-lq3hj2 жыл бұрын
Grizz is so respectable, thoughtful, and calm
@mpah44242 жыл бұрын
We need more football fans like Grizz! Absolute fair guy and class act
@lukebest74242 жыл бұрын
Thogden questioning Jaap Stam tells you all you need to know about his footballing knowledge
@amir228722 жыл бұрын
he did say that he was learning from them two when they were talking about Irwin, tbf Thogden's still young it is to be expected
@dillonsass66092 жыл бұрын
Its cos Thogden is drinking beer, it went to his head🍺. He should've asked for a glass of water 🤣
@Rob075442 жыл бұрын
@@dillonsass6609 half a pint
@shaebryant19162 жыл бұрын
@@amir22872 shouldn’t be on there
@lukebest74242 жыл бұрын
@@amir22872 he should've educated himself beforehand. And Jaap Stam isn't a particularly obscure player. And this guy has a football channel as well. Basically knows about players from the last 10 years and that's it the absolute joker.
@SlingingForALiving2 жыл бұрын
For the 1st time ever I actually enjoyed the dialogue, both fans put their bias aside for the most part and I agreed with all of these picks
@EE-kt8sh2 жыл бұрын
Nah Adam was too biased. And i'm a united fan
@barbarasband68182 жыл бұрын
@@EE-kt8sh I’m a united fan as well but our legends are better than Liverpool in most positions so it makes sense for him to argue for united the only player who gets in is gerrard imo
@meldyrum45452 жыл бұрын
@@barbarasband6818 nah bro, that's ridiculous, the comment was about putting aside bias and you've gone and said that
@barbarasband68182 жыл бұрын
@@meldyrum4545 what u mean how has Trent got in van dijk maybe but I’d take Vidic and salah I’d rather have ronaldo and then take giggs on the left
@meldyrum45452 жыл бұрын
@@barbarasband6818 I'm gonna break this down one by one. Firstly: Trent ,as was said, completeley revolutionised the right back role. that players are expected to fit into nowadays. The numbers he puts up in termsn of assists Xa and chances created are ridicoulos for a midfielder let alone a defender. I know you'll bring up defending, but contrary to popular belief trent excels in this area producing the second-third best defensive statistics per 90 in the prem last season for right backs, the only thing he lacks is defensive awareness. Secondly: Vidic was an amazing player but he is glorifies over his highlights reels where he made unnecessary slide tackles that he didn't need to make or could have been prevented earlier. As well as this Vidic always had frerdinand or another world class defender next to him, Van Dijk when he came in had an average matip, joe gomez and lovren as his partenr and still managed to lead liverpool to a league title and a champions league by transforming that defense. Van dijk also managed to finish 2nd in the ballondor behind the greatest of all time in one of his best ever seasons, from centre back. Thats insane and vidic never managed anything close. Thirdly: Salah has played 5 going on 6 impeccable seasons, ronaldo had 3 good seasons at united, salah also holds the goalscoring record in the premier league, beating rolando, and also beating him for assists in almost all of his years as well. Salah while not as good at useless stepovers or dribbling is positionally the better attacker and wouldv'e also won a ballondor had he won the 2018 champions league final instead of Madrid. To add to this giggs while it wasn't his role, scored more than 10 goals in a season only twice over 21 seasons, and scored less than 5 in over 10 off those seasons, salah has also put up more numbers in assists and creatively in general, and while giggs was less of a direct attacking threat and more of a midfielder in a 4-4-2 he lacked any dazzling technical ability and did not have the ability to dictate the tempo or the run of play. Putting away bias the team presented is very good and perfect in my opinion.
@debendersnair8562 жыл бұрын
Queue the "As the opposition supporter, this person is so respectful" and the "I'm supporter of this team and this person should not represent our club"
@gethinhughes81532 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan Grizz debated really fairly there. Adam is always really bitter.
@amateurchef99922 жыл бұрын
Calm down gethin
@ragnarok2832 жыл бұрын
I will be bitter if someone’s picking Gerrard over Scholes too lol
@hurrdurrimagrunt2 жыл бұрын
Grizz is good on this, as is Maych. Two fair and objective red men.
@pacman76872 жыл бұрын
Nothing about anyone on Redmen is fair and objective
@amolmehrotra12962 жыл бұрын
@@pacman7687 why you such a hater man you are everywhere 😂 why do you even watch rival channels and expect them to be objective.
@pacman76872 жыл бұрын
@@amolmehrotra1296 because everyone has a brain and can be rational, just cousers mainly cant manage it
@amolmehrotra12962 жыл бұрын
@@pacman7687 yeah like Buvey right? He is the most biased football commentator out there and represents Man city as much Redmen represents Liverpool, but I have never seen you once comment below his videos yet you are here. So you are just biased, hypocrite and non rational as others, according to your logic you are also a couser congrats 😂
@pacman76872 жыл бұрын
@@amolmehrotra1296 Mate theres a huge difference. Buvey's almost there for comedy, Redmen is a serious channel. BUvey's footballing opinions are nonsense and no one takes anything seriously. Theres plenty of great City youtube channels that "represent" us, not Buvey
@lukewalker50962 жыл бұрын
Why would you make Thogden the judge? 😂😂
@oufc902 жыл бұрын
Right 😂 probably never seen half of these players play, or in their prime at least
@craigglassford85332 жыл бұрын
Yeah the guy is clueless
@NachoInsano2 жыл бұрын
Big mistake he’s an absolute crumpet
@palashrawat4012 жыл бұрын
Making thogden a judge in something involving Ronaldo is plain dumb
@5thdawg9172 жыл бұрын
😂 The guy is 21 years old! He was born in 2001. There is no way his seen majority of the Man Utd players play.
@EE-kt8sh2 жыл бұрын
Need more guys like Grizz on these football talks.
@odintrondsen19772 жыл бұрын
This was a very healthy and unbiased conversation, and I loved every second of it. Two unbiased people who is being calm and not screaming at each other. Its easy as an Liverpool fan to be biased atm, cause we are so much better than United right now. But can´t forget how good United was a few years ago. Huge respect to the both of them!
@rfc23992 жыл бұрын
Thogmong shouldn’t be here when he hasn’t even seen highlights of Dennis Irwin 😭
@sudhanshg162 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing conversation. Unbiased and totally healthy debate, as it is supposed to be!
@jack7boom72 жыл бұрын
that RW debate is crazy! as a Man U fan, Salah gets it easy. As much as I love Beckham he became more of a celebrity than a footballer at the end
@arjinaasad23832 жыл бұрын
Isn't he supposed to do what he wants after retirement.
@khumeighalo4062 жыл бұрын
Exactly at the end not in his prime....its a Shame gorge best was nt in the conversation
@user-io8cm4dk1f2 жыл бұрын
@@arjinaasad2383 this was before retirement
@XavierJAlexander2 жыл бұрын
Most idiotic child comment I’ve come accross
@benleitch60872 жыл бұрын
@@khumeighalo406 premier league era sadly, otherwise it would easily be George Best for me
@dejansega19862 жыл бұрын
Most of the best Liverpool players are still playing, so it's difficult to rate them. They might win a lot more or they might decline
@Lisa-cj8cu2 жыл бұрын
I take it as you support united or I don't think you would of said that
@Davey7682 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-cj8cu Nah, anyone would say that. Trent and Van Dijk doesn't deserve to even be mentioned when it comes to this. Adam went easy.
@sib19302 жыл бұрын
@@Davey768 Yes they do
@at..2 жыл бұрын
Liverpool is writing history as we speak 🗣 these premiership greats aren’t done yet so its unfair to judge
@dejansega19862 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-cj8cu I support Liverpool. But as I said most of the players are still playing. They've been great, but "only" won 1 PL and 1 CL title. But they've mostly been here 4-5 years. A lot of the best United players were playing for them for 10 years. So in 5 years some of the Liverpool players might have 5 new trophies, or some might get worse and be sold... We don't know yet
@PPTheKop2 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why United fans were annoyed when us liverpool fans talked about history alot in the past... 🤣
@PPTheKop2 жыл бұрын
Its bloody annoying as! 🤣
@PPTheKop2 жыл бұрын
@HONEST MAN UTD FAN True. Most of them don't even have that so lets just enjoy these episodes. Only hoping liverpool to play well this weekend as we all know liverpool don't play their best football against teams at the bottom 😅
@lk79232 жыл бұрын
@@PPTheKop not true. Last year we played our best football against teams in the bottom and barely took any points against the top 4
@AnthB2 жыл бұрын
Have all of them had memory loss or something? Ronaldo played almost his entire United career on the right wing, he started playing on the left when he came to Madrid. His best season at United 07/08 he started 35 games as a right winger and only 1 game as a left winger and that was the CL final.
@godfatherpart45902 жыл бұрын
Grizz what a lad . Absolute class 👏👏
@dandanSWLdnGooner2 жыл бұрын
"Virgil Van Dyke is our cake or we're fasting otherwise" 😭🤣😭 big up Grizz 👊🏽
@ryancurran46002 жыл бұрын
One of the only debates I’ve actually enjoyed, no biased, just a few lads who actually have ball knowledge
@connorwilliams8714 Жыл бұрын
Hate how people say trent revolutionised that position when Roberto Carlos Dani ALVES and Marcelo have been working that role for decades
@adamhughes1172 жыл бұрын
GK: Peter Schmeichel RB: Alexander-Arnold CB: Rio Ferdinand CB: Virgil Van Dijk LB: Dennis Irwin CM: Roy Keane CM: Steven Gerrard CM: Paul Scholes RW: Mo Salah LW: Cristiano Ronaldo CF: Wayne Rooney
@kavilansigapragasan92672 жыл бұрын
💯
@kingsleyinno37622 жыл бұрын
I think vingil and ferdie looks similar players can't complement each other ,I will go with one of them+vidic..Torres of Liverpool my striker
@abcdefed3f2 жыл бұрын
ST: Suarez
@alirazajafree31192 жыл бұрын
@@kingsleyinno3762 shouldnt be basing combination 11s on playing styles, youre comparing players of completely different eras and teams so its a useless take unfortunately
@abcdefed3f2 жыл бұрын
Or CF: Cantona
@EE-kt8sh2 жыл бұрын
Annoying when people do mixed teams with extreme bias. Beckman over Salah is a madness. And I'm a united fan
@_biggaz6 ай бұрын
Ur the only mad one here. What are u 14? Someone didnt watch beckham. Far better footballer. U want athlete okay salahs faster and stronger, what footballing traits are better than beckham tho? He certainly doesnt have anything that stands out as much as beckhams passing ahead of his counterpart
@EE-kt8sh6 ай бұрын
@_biggaz You don't know football just sit down man. Salah is better goal scorer, better dribbler, had more assists. Only idiot united fans or english people would take him over Salah
@josephmorton84772 жыл бұрын
The first one of these videos where both fans have got it spot on and they were both respectful to each other's arguements
@BigGunner2342 жыл бұрын
United’s Ty is back at it again with the delusion, the Liverpool fan was class all around, understood the point of the debate and had actual discourse.
@dg17862 жыл бұрын
As a united fan of 31 years. Your bang on. He’s to bias, football fan before my team, and you just can’t deny great players regardless of who they play for.
@woodkey12 жыл бұрын
True. he just wanna put out united best 11 might as well put George best. Yeay 11 players from man united. No need for discussion. Thats the problem of some united fans
@ItsAv3rageGamer2 жыл бұрын
McKola is one of the most arrogant fans out there.
@thedirtybubble29832 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks Howson is worse than McKola? As a UTD fan I think both are insufferable tho
@BigGunner2342 жыл бұрын
@TheRealJimmySaville Don't know how I'm being salty, im an arsenal fan so I just watch it because I want to hear a discussion beyond delusional tribalism, I guess that's salty nowadays lol.
@ankitlad252 жыл бұрын
I love McKola but we need a little more rational representation from Manchester United fans. Cannot be emotional and vibe on the bygone days, players combined XI is also about individual merit in that specific playing position and not just trophies won as a team. This is coming from a United fan.
@dettwork2 жыл бұрын
this is literally a team based on bygone days.. if there's a time to vibe on them, it's here
@Sachin-gv7ik2 жыл бұрын
How can one love McKola?
@alirazajafree31192 жыл бұрын
@@dettwork shouldnt be basing it off trophies
@Johndoe-gf7eu2 жыл бұрын
@@alirazajafree3119 shouldn’t be an in all time premier league XI if you never won it. Why would i want gerrard in my combined 11 when he doesn’t know what its like to win a title, how can i trust him? How can i trust him on final day to perform? How do i know he won’t bottle it?
@dettwork2 жыл бұрын
@@alirazajafree3119 yeah, otherwise there'd be no Liverpool players in it at all, but at the same time being a standout player in a team that won 3 in a row has to be better than being a standout player in a team that didn't win it at all?
@user-io8cm4dk1f2 жыл бұрын
This sort of debate just isn’t really fair, that United team had so many players who stayed there for years and years and won so many league titles etc, whereas Liverpool has only won 1. To make it more fair, and to make it more entertaining, it should’ve been a certain season for each team and only base it off how they performed in that season. Plus the fact that Liverpool’s most successful team of the Premier era is still happening, so the players haven’t even finished their careers yet, comparing them to players who played 10+ years for an insane United team just isn’t fair.
@XavierJAlexander2 жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s an all time team
@shush12192 жыл бұрын
Then United would still destroy them
@alirazajafree31192 жыл бұрын
@@XavierJAlexander it should have been all time 11, meaning taking into account the likes of ian rush and kenny dalglish
@mac22002 жыл бұрын
@@alirazajafree3119 Then United would take into account Best, Charlton, Law etc
@raxj82572 жыл бұрын
@@alirazajafree3119 Liverpool would win that hands down
@johnnyryan6562 жыл бұрын
Get the Irish Guy Here He doesn't bite
@Dz73zxxx2 жыл бұрын
Irish Guy on Newcastle debate, that would be awesome!
@thomasforde39002 жыл бұрын
Grizz (Liverpool fan) was fantastic in this, could have definitely got one or two more in there but was very unbiased and accepting of some great United players
@Sam-Ra2 жыл бұрын
That's why you don't make a kid a referee.
@LWipo2 жыл бұрын
FOR ONCE, people put bias aside and just appreciated both sets of players. Sometimes rivalry doesn't matter and just reminisce about some of the great players we've all seen. Reminds me of Ronaldo or Messi, who cares really? Just be grateful we all got to see them both play as they are probably #1 and #2 of all time depending on preference.
@qBodi2 жыл бұрын
not everyone has that random opinion
@klassed2342 жыл бұрын
Lit only the Liverpool fan did this, that utd fan bias as they come
@qBodi2 жыл бұрын
@@klassed234 just like liverpool simps
@Slim-Clips2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Messi vs. Ronaldo isn’t preference, it’s a litmus test for knowledge of the sport and anyone who says Ronaldo fails the test miserably.
@mobiustriple Жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same video? Cuz even the judge was biased
@jaxteller8722 жыл бұрын
United fan here, Big up Grizz, very impartial, respectful, how a football fan should be when going into debates. Adam on the other hand, was such a prick, subtle digs, very bias and arrogant at times.
@LoCoAde872 жыл бұрын
McKola being McKola. The usual.
@Joker-yw9hl2 жыл бұрын
Host and Adam wound me up, and I'm a United fan. Most down to earth Liverpool fan I've ever seen
@dudebro69022 жыл бұрын
We should have Chelsea all time and Liverpool all time with Rory and Grizz. It would be the calmest video ever.
@deenuk1252 жыл бұрын
Issue with these videos is it goes back to "he won more" Ok then make the entire United 11 with no Liverpool players by that logic there's no point for a video We all know Fletcher was a far better midfielder than Gerard because he won the PL cmon Top logic there
@arifkeskin26982 жыл бұрын
Grizz Khan is one of a kind. Love hearing him talk. Need to see more of him.
@albymichael71932 жыл бұрын
When you make an all time 11 you don’t look at trophies you look at how they are as a player
@Matt-fe6wu2 жыл бұрын
Correct to a certain point. You have to look at reasons why certain players didn't win trophies and a rationale as to why they would be selected over someone who has a history of trophies.
@AdamT-mv3ok2 жыл бұрын
It has to be a combination of both trophies and how good they were/are on their day, but trophies should always have the edge. How they are/were as players can make way for more subjective opinions which is hard to quantify for a fair debate. For example someone like Gary Neville was never the most easy on the eye as a player but he was efficient and remained efficient for over a decade, if Trent stops performing now he doesn't get ahead of Gary Neville all time regardless of how good he's been so far. Just like Henderson has been a greater Midfielder in the PL as compared to someone like say Modrić in the PL who was overall more gifted and went on to have an overall greater career, not to say he wasn't good for Spurs but Henderson in the PL has been greater than Modrić in the PL.
@FatTodd2 жыл бұрын
Cristiano is the reason man u revived and won that 3 peat of Prems.
@manojcm75672 жыл бұрын
@@FatTodd bs comment u must be either a kid or a fanboy to say that lmao
@FatTodd2 жыл бұрын
@@manojcm7567 how am I fanboy. London clubs in Chelsea and arsenal were running the prem, 3 years without a title ppl were saying fergue is done out. Ronaldo comes back from world cup a man, destroyed the league 3 years in a row, with the 07/08 season the best individual season in prem history. Arsenal were close to getting Ronaldo and that could have changed the course of our history. So when I massively rate Ronaldo, I have good reason. If he came to us, we would have won more.
@blackholesupersloth32762 жыл бұрын
Can't be watching Thogdon.
@InsideJob20012 жыл бұрын
He did reasonably ok at not coming off as a total bellend
@blackholesupersloth32762 жыл бұрын
@@InsideJob2001 The Interview with Ben Foster and Goldbridge made him unbearable
@InsideJob20012 жыл бұрын
@@blackholesupersloth3276 He generally is unbearable but looks like LadBible told him to chill out
@percypervis94702 жыл бұрын
Why didn't that guy who was the judge just have a soft drink instead of pretending to enjoy that pint
@leighpalmer12342 жыл бұрын
Prime example why United fans are not respected
@chrisd14042 жыл бұрын
Where did they found a fair, unbiased, down to earth and relatively normal Liverpool fan? This guy is rare!
@pancakeman88212 жыл бұрын
It's weird to think that one day the prem will have been around as long as the first division was, (touchwood) and it'll be pretty much impossible to do these combined 11's
@richafonz3092 жыл бұрын
Not even a chance because there’s only 1 player that plays rn, can replace this team and it’s kdb
@k182l2 жыл бұрын
These should be a 4 4 2 so there's 2 picks for each position and debate of it
@ryanjackson40042 жыл бұрын
Questionable about Trent over G Nev but respect has been shown in all players so credit to both of them
@PontyP2 жыл бұрын
Noway your saying it’s a debate between Neville and TAA? It was even the easiest decision for mcKola in this whole video, Neville was a solid player and would run through brick walls for United but player to player Trent is far superior
@michaelduckett76882 жыл бұрын
@@PontyP is he bollocks. Neville’s easily the best RB in premiership history. Trent’s not even top 5!
@PontyP2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelduckett7688 Noway you just said that? Best right back in PL history? No past or present player is even putting him anywhere near they’re best 11 they’ve played with
@michaelwvega94392 жыл бұрын
Great video and it was so equal and fair it’s unreal. However I will say Trent didn’t revolutionize the Fullback position. Guys like Cafu, Caravjal, Dani alves, Roberto Carlos, Fachetti all revolutionized this position and the wonder kids fullbacks we see in this day and age are all stuff these guys I mentioned already did in their perspective primes.
@ukbigjon2 жыл бұрын
United fan here. Just comparing Ronaldo and Salah there are two distinctions to make; their overall ability and level at their best and then there is their individual records in the league. If you are looking at who has been the better player, obviously that is Ronaldo; to question it would be stupid. Remembering Ronnie's first stint, if you had the ability to pick peak Balon d'or winning Ronaldo, which emerged in his penultimate season; you pick him over Salah. However, if you are looking at their over all record in the league, salah has spent more of his best years here, so his record is better in the Prem. So based on record in the league, you'd pick Salah. Two amazing players either way.
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
I like this, the least 3 years of his first stint were amazing, but Salah has more of less matched plus an extra year. There's a tendency of including his time at Madrid, where he was a different level altogether.
@ukbigjon2 жыл бұрын
@@bri1085 equally I think people forget he actually did enter his peak at United; winning the Ballon d'or in '08... where he was absolutely incredible. But yeah, most of his peak wasnt at united; hence as I suggested, I do think you can assess them both by those two distinct criteria.
@mj2002 жыл бұрын
They were talking about premier league impact. Therefore it's Salah?
@telmolicious2 жыл бұрын
@@mj200 Why the question mark? 😅
@mj2002 жыл бұрын
@@telmolicious excellent point
@ejsmartt2 жыл бұрын
Fair play fair play, I’m happy with this. Secondly, I’m a massive fan of Rooney but my man could’ve given a better argument for Rooney v Suarez, in terms of who would they want in one single season with this team. Would’ve been more interesting. I’m a United fan btw 😂
@WaniZame2 жыл бұрын
Over a career in terms of achievement and statistics and even ability I think anybody who watches football would say Suarez was a better player over his career BUT you can’t argue Rooneys significance in the Prem. Had Suarez done a decade in England he would probably have surpassed Henry as the best to do it in England.
@forreal74032 жыл бұрын
They should have put Rooney in the 10 and put Suarez as a striker.
@whitelightning2100Ай бұрын
@@WaniZameI’m a united supporter and this is true. Suarez is the third best player of this generation behind Messi & Ronaldo. He’s arguably the greatest striker of all time but is overshadowed by those other 2
@alexab5432 жыл бұрын
Man Utd fans can't really hate on Schmeichel celebrating City's goals, as they've all been doing the same for the past 4-5 years
@ellis92902 жыл бұрын
"We could possibly contemplate putting him on the left" hahaha fuck sake Adam was really determined to have an all-united 11
@tamberlame272 жыл бұрын
4 - 4 - 2 Van der Saar Neville - Rio - van Djik - Dennis Irwin Salah - keane - Gerrad - Ronaldo Rooney - Suarez
@firstchoice45273 ай бұрын
Just don't put Suarez & Evra in one team
@r.i.psteez9292 жыл бұрын
I think another thing that goes to Liverpool’s credit is that they’re competing against an estate. A club that’s probably THE best the premier league’s ever seen, they’ve got the money, the best coach, the best playing style, they’ve got it all cause of the money. So the fact that Liverpool is competing with this team is to their credit. They’d have 2-3 more prems without having to compete against the behemoth of City.
@InsideJob20012 жыл бұрын
Can't really argue with the team. Rooney has to be in there on longevity and trophies.
@mainakdas43052 жыл бұрын
Rooney is there in the centre forward.
@InsideJob20012 жыл бұрын
@@mainakdas4305 I know, I'm agreeing he deserves to be in there over Suarez. But it's very close
@mainakdas43052 жыл бұрын
@@InsideJob2001 bro Suarez is the best centre forward in our generation. But in Premier League it has to be Rooney but Rooney is an all-rounder. I agree that. Also he can able to play in different postions that makes him one of the best forward in the history of Premier League.
@InsideJob20012 жыл бұрын
@@mainakdas4305 yeah, and Suarez' best season is better than Rooney best season
@andrei.2422 жыл бұрын
Best debate i have ever seen. Would watch it again
@michaelcorleonejr2 жыл бұрын
As an Arsenal fan my all time combined XI for Man Utd/Liverpool would be GK: Schmeichel, LB: Evra, RB: Trent, CB: Van Djik, CB: Ferdinand, RW/RM: Salah, CM: Scholes, CM: Gerrard, LW/LM: Ronaldo, FW: Suarez, FW: Rooney
@Thefamousoibruv2 жыл бұрын
this is the perfect team
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
Fair although I'd sneak Carrick in 👀
@michaelcorleonejr2 жыл бұрын
@@bri1085 😂 not a chance Alonso, Keane, way ahead of him in the pecking order
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorleonejr I'm deadly serious too, he's the player Scholes became after and retired.
@michaelcorleonejr2 жыл бұрын
@@bri1085 Carrick an average player imo
@jbedwa6 ай бұрын
This was the best combined XI I’ve seen. Both lads know ball very well and it shows
@forreal74032 жыл бұрын
I think they shoulda played 433 attacking and put Rooney in the 10 and Suarez in the 9.
@stuartabbott23072 жыл бұрын
Salah has to take right wing spot over Beckham simply due to the fact it's a 4-3-3. In a 4-4-2, Beckham is the best right midfielder the premier league has seen. Beckham's football ability is so underrated by opposition fans.
@trhoades20632 жыл бұрын
Agreed,
@nottheonefromearth11 ай бұрын
Well said
@TrymYoutubeMainChannel2 жыл бұрын
don't forget who scored the last goal in UCL in 98/99 Solskjaer
@gureyg37952 жыл бұрын
He was super sub. So definitely should be the first of the bench when this team is down 1-0 🤣
@degars63832 жыл бұрын
that was such a civilized and relatively unbiased conversation, shows that a video can be entertaining without having to be 'heated'
@aitchjay68542 жыл бұрын
Why just the Premier league era? United dominanted it for 20 years. So apart from 1 player possible 2 the rest would be all united. And I've been a Liverpool fan since 1980
@jhaych2 жыл бұрын
Because it's easier as it's only been around for the last 30 years so most of us can remember the era etc, and it's the 30th year anniversary. Be unfair on players like law, best etc as barely anybody has seen them play.
@2g7722 жыл бұрын
Should've used 3-4-3 as formation since both teams didn't have best of the fullbacks that can be considered all time greats and would've had great debate
@benbancroft96432 жыл бұрын
Im a UTD fan… this was embarrassing from Adam. Salah is 100% in over Ronaldo and Becks on the right. Gerrard and Keane isn’t even a question, should be a certainty and Scholes is one of my favourite ever UTD players.
@monkee42 жыл бұрын
salah is no wear near man u ronaldo, there's just no way you actually believe that
@binggo42612 жыл бұрын
😂
@paulcris1072 жыл бұрын
U must be 6 do you remember young ronaldo at Man Utd
@monkee42 жыл бұрын
@@paulcris107 I clearly remember watching him in Man U from 2006 to 2007 😹
@Johndoe-gf7eu2 жыл бұрын
Featuring a bolton fan, fantastic
@marcusMakoT2 жыл бұрын
4-4-2 Schmeichel Alexander-Arnold - Stam - Vidic - Irwin Ronaldo - Gerrard - Keane - Giggs Rooney - Cantona
@memesmemes54522 жыл бұрын
deluded🤣
@marcusMakoT2 жыл бұрын
@@memesmemes5452 Let me hear your team then😂
@DawesyIsABoyo7 ай бұрын
Rooney,Ronaldo,Salah,Gerrard,Scholes,Keane,Evra,Vidic,Ferdiand,Neville,Van De Sarr 1st team Berbatov,Cantona,Schmeicel,David De Gea,Trent,Beckham,Van Dijk,Yapsten all arguments for these places
@ImmortalRises2 жыл бұрын
Massive respect to Rooney, but Suarez was that little bit special this man was breaking records and missing a handful of games too, it was a joke how good Suarez was, just look at the chances he missed, outrageous he shouldn’t even be trying to score. Suarez’ technical ability is slept on how he isn’t mentioned alongside Benzema and Lewi is disrespect. Suarez also has the 3rd most assists in all of football, for a forward that is nuts. Rooney was more of a direct forward, a proper striker and a brilliant one too. For me Suarez just edges it Rooney is a brilliant goal scorer and if I could play 2 up front it would be them 2.
@rambo18722 жыл бұрын
If ur talking about them in their prime suarez miles better, but premier league 11 u have to give it to Rooney for longevity and accolades
@manino58722 жыл бұрын
No if your talking prime then suarez is better from a united fan but in terms of longevity in the prem and overall, rooney is better
@xnatcho2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the Man Utd fan’s obsession with bringing league titles, CLs, etc., into the talk of certain player’s abilities and an all-time XI of the Prem. You can be hella average but being a part of the best team ever to grace the sport would then give you a decent argument for a place in the XI. However, individual awards are more accurate.
@MrMudassaranwar2 жыл бұрын
That's the only way he can get most United players in. If I was in this debate I would just say yes full 11 United squad because it's based on what you win and not just on ability. Would have been a 30 second video if I was there 😂
@economicswithruss62592 жыл бұрын
I hope Adam has seen Rio’s lie detector test where he knows VVD is clear 🤣
@gamingscout5922 жыл бұрын
I hope u having seen vvd saying to Rio , u are ahead of me
@bri10852 жыл бұрын
@@Mmm-ix7eh he really wasn't, there's a man utd fan right there who didn't bring up Vidic
@economicswithruss62592 жыл бұрын
@@Mmm-ix7eh hahaha good one
@economicswithruss62592 жыл бұрын
@@gamingscout592 I have, and VVD was being humble, Rio literally laughed because he knows
@linkuppodcast99992 жыл бұрын
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@j.jswatt14012 жыл бұрын
Easily the best epi yet, two fans arguably part of one of the biggest rivalry in sports and there was no screaming or overreacting. Fair analysis on both parts (theres always bias).
@tommysargent30692 жыл бұрын
“Trent revolutionised the right back role” dani alves and numerous other full backs were doing it before he was
@FatTodd2 жыл бұрын
Nah Trent's style is different. Alves locked off the whole right wing by himself because barca never lost the ball
@mattyisfantastic2 жыл бұрын
But Trent has done it better
@EoinDonnelly1232 жыл бұрын
In terms of the Premier League..
@Ashley_MG2 жыл бұрын
Did Dani Alves play in the Premier League?
@FerdinandMutie2 жыл бұрын
@Hypolite Izerimana i love playing against Trent in Fifa.....shit ass defender but no cap Trent is a real G and i would to see him win more even as a United Fan
@oLogicalYT2 жыл бұрын
More of this series please
@khaliboy072 жыл бұрын
The problem with Liverpool is that someone like Suarez had a the single best season as an attacker but no longeivity and the remaining best players are still playing. So it's hard to rate them above those players that are seen as legends. It's same thing with Kdb. When he ritires he will be considered the best attacking midfielder in the epl. But as of now people don't see him as such
@macca16262 жыл бұрын
Exactly that’s what I was sayin the whole vid, you put it exactly how I was thinking. In 10 years I recon most of Liverpool’s players with be better than the Utd team, if we carry on playing how we are now. it’s just hard to argue because of the success of the entire Utd team
@Lisa-cj8cu2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean he had no longevity he went on to play for other clubs and still be very successful and won trophies
@macca16262 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-cj8cu Yh we’re talking about the prem era
@Mcnuggets2562 жыл бұрын
Bruh what do you mean no longevity after he destroyed with Barcelona
@macca16262 жыл бұрын
@@Mcnuggets256 yeah it prem era, and he had none compared to the Utd team
@jergetrol6 ай бұрын
As a Liverpool fan, this is the calmest Liverpool fan in the internet I've ever seen and im 100% here for it
@ibrarhussain25082 жыл бұрын
Grizz with the educated views, mckola on emotion rather then football
@thiagoteixeira65372 жыл бұрын
Damn Grizz was so fair to Man United! Fair play mate!
@xJamessii2 жыл бұрын
Honestly at this point, Mckola has to be playing a character... Surely?
@afellownerd2 жыл бұрын
Gk: Schmeichel Rb: trent Cb: Ferdinand, van dijk Lb: irwin Cdm: keane Cm: scholes, Gerrard Rw: salah Lw: ronaldo St: rooney Bench Van de sar Neville Vidic Carrick Beckham Mane Suarez Cantona Giggs
@adam011012 жыл бұрын
feel bad for Thogden having to deal with these two
@louisdnd9342 жыл бұрын
Feel bad for these 2 for having Thogden next to them
@adnanhaid3r12 жыл бұрын
nah he's just rubbish, rory's clear
@Losmerengues1902 Жыл бұрын
@@adnanhaid3r1 Rory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CFCVideos2 жыл бұрын
What’s Grizzs Jacket from? I can not tell
@dogsofwar8112 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo that line about Harry Maguire "rolls royce don't make fridges" had me on the floor
@Wiktor9282 жыл бұрын
this video was great and grizz made some great choices and arguments! loved the guy but im heavily debating the disrespect not to mention dudeks name in goal
@adamhart702 жыл бұрын
These “all times” have lost meaning….because kenny or rush take that number 9 spot, barnes would get a strong mention, clemence in goal, come on now
@olliewellstood19632 жыл бұрын
This is based off premier league, should be stated in the title but it’s not. Otherwise you can consider players such as Bobby Charlton as well
@Matt-fe6wu2 жыл бұрын
This is the premier league era
@jhaych2 жыл бұрын
It was Premier league only, we'd then also have Chalton, best, law etc
@Robert-ks5ix2 жыл бұрын
Football started in 92 remember
@steve88evets312 жыл бұрын
Grizz has a really great attitude. I did like the decades comment. Think they slept on that one haha
@man44372 жыл бұрын
Before watching the vid, Ronaldo at United is not going in my team above Salah and I'm an Everton fan. If we consider him at United with all his seasons concurrently then he's basically a mediocre player who turned into one of the best in the world and then basically someone like 33 year old Berbatov in a couple years at the club. If we're talking United and right wing, he doesn't even go above George Best obuectively speaking
@DanielSilva-gf4kk2 жыл бұрын
You're a funny guy. I'm glad you're a comedian and not a manager. 😆
@stephenmckenna16762 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo won a balon D'or playing on the right for united
@TheSamadon2 жыл бұрын
haha this is the curse of being as good as Ronaldo was. Insane 6years with United gets deluded by even more insane 9seasons at Real Madrid. Calling the last player in PL to win ballondor a mediocre players is disrespectfull. He one level above salah in PL aswell.
@suthir_nadar2 жыл бұрын
So winning the Ballon d'or from the right wing in a United shirt doesn't count 😂
@coryjunior87472 жыл бұрын
Go seek help ASAP. Ronaldo won the balon dor playing for united in 2008 fool
@HaydenTaylor-qs1si4 ай бұрын
GK- Peter Schmeichel LB- Denis Irwin CB- Virgil van Dijk CB- Nemanja Vidic RB- Gary Neville CM- Steven Gerrard CDM- Roy Keane CM- Paul Scholes LW- Ryan Giggs CF- Wayne Rooney RW- Mohamed Salah Manager: Alex Ferguson
@aran82302 жыл бұрын
‘All time’ has lost its meaning, the fact that Trent is there baffles me
@justin30082 жыл бұрын
Why, Neville was average
@AntonGranbo2 жыл бұрын
@@justin3008 so is Trent. He just works in that Liverpool team, in any other team he'd be very average
@liam53822 жыл бұрын
@@justin3008 At least Neville could defend
@justin30082 жыл бұрын
@@AntonGranbo u can’t call a kid who’s that young averaging 10+ assists average
@SuperZing132 жыл бұрын
yeah true only people who watch football puts trent there no debate
@gumpastee2 жыл бұрын
How is Bobby Charlton, George Best, Ian Rush etc. not in, they said all time XI.
@mayankvaghani93902 жыл бұрын
John Terry is the greatest defender in premier league history. Vidic was 2nd and Rio was 3rd.
@hiphoplegend47182 жыл бұрын
Bro John Terry was a great defender but not the best in the premier league era.
@mayankvaghani93902 жыл бұрын
@@hiphoplegend4718 Rooney, Aguero, Kane. These are some of the best players in premier league history who JT their toughest opponent. 5 consecutive FIFAfif pro world xi appearances, 3 UEFA defender of the year awards. 4 UEFA TOTY awards. 5 premier league titles. He definitely is bro
@hiphoplegend47182 жыл бұрын
@@mayankvaghani9390 that’s your opinion Terry was the greatest. For me he was an outstanding defender for Chelsea. But not the greatest in the premier league.
@mayankvaghani93902 жыл бұрын
@@hiphoplegend4718 Yep but if you look back to his accolades. He was the highest scoring defender in premier league history, most decorated English football of his generation. Most premier leagues as a captain.
@jhaych2 жыл бұрын
Rio, Staam, Terry, van dijk, vidic for me
@laugh65812 жыл бұрын
Both of them were so accurate with the decisions though, really cool video
@AdamMcKola2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me, guys. 👊🏾
@Smokey_MR22 жыл бұрын
Typical delusional united fan 🙄
@emceeshawz85882 жыл бұрын
Adam was being nice any football fans know you can’t bring up salah in the same convo as treble winning david becham.
@PLC112 жыл бұрын
The trophy argument that Thogdan kept trying to make is just not valid. United was the best team with the best players and the best manager for such a long time. No real competition. Without a state runner club with billions of oil money, Liverpool would have won the past 5 straight league titles and it wouldn’t even be close. So you can’t make an argument “this player goes in because he won this many trophies”. Because the eras don’t even compare.
@navneethhari15062 жыл бұрын
What about arsenal?! Chelsea! Stfu!
@maxklein89052 жыл бұрын
He’s making the trophy argument in respect to Gerrard and the Liverpool teams that over 28 years of the pl era won no premier league titles. So yeh the argument makes perfect sense. You’ve only won it once, you’re lucky you got 3 players in, and to say there was no competition when there was prime Arsenal and Chelsea were brilliant just makes you look stupid 🤣
@sherazaadabdulla26942 жыл бұрын
All If buts and maybes
@PLC112 жыл бұрын
@@maxklein8905 literally the first half of your response backs up the argument I made….. good job there buddy. And Arsenal and Chelsea were not consistent competition and definitely wasn’t like what City and LFC are doing right now. Also you need to comprehend that when you’re talking about an all time team, you’re talking about individual players and what they did individually to be part of the overall team. So no trophies don’t matter… that’s like saying Mbappe is wayyyyyy better then Haaland because he has a World Cup. When everyone knows that France is stacked without Mbappe and Norway has only ever qualified for 3 WCs. Or Pelé is the best player ever because he has 3 WCs… those Brazil teams win the WC em without Pelé anyways… so no, trophies are not a legit argument when you’re talking about comparing two players.
@PLC112 жыл бұрын
@@sherazaadabdulla2694 How? Without an oil Colin in City, no one has gotten even close to LFC the last 5 years…. That is a fact.
@xpulsekingx42712 жыл бұрын
beckam over salah, vidic over vvd and maybe neville over trent