United's 787 Order is BAD NEWS for Airbus

Today, United placed an order for up to 200 Boeing 787s - the largest order in program history. This deal is great news for Boeing, but it's just as bad for Airbus who now seems poised to lose United's business #shorts

[@RoderikvanReekum]

Hope they tightened the bolts on this one!

[@jantjarks7946]

Another issue with a Boeing plane and it could quickly turn into a black swan for Boeing. Interesting what times we are living in. 🤔😉

[@PenskePC17]

Hopefully American companies decide to keep selling Aibus engines and avionics or they might need to knock on Chinas door. It's funny how all the important parts on europes superior jets are still American 🤣

[@justacell2208]

​@@jantjarks7946 Aaaaaand it did

[@Deltabutter]

This comment is after they have fixed that; but the door problems were only on the 737 max, not the 787. Though after they had just fixed that a week ago again, the 737 max spoilers are starting to randomly deploy. 🤦

[@mx1593]

787s are built in completely different facilities than 737s

[@user-jz8sj2tl6y]

I ordered one am going to receive it next week so happy

[@scott250r2]

LOL. I wish. Hahahha

[@786peaceful8]

Unfortunately The plane stalled and crashed into my local supermarket

[@woozy7405]

They told me they don't carry the 747 anymore :/

[@couchpotatoes5158]

Post the unboxing once it arrives

[@lodevandenberg5361]

KLM actually made an unboxing video about the 787

[@arshan948]

United was the commercial branch of Boeing so this isn't a surprise

[@evergrandebestrealestate4854]

keep crying

[@TheEchelon]

@@evergrandebestrealestate4854 What are you on about? He made a valid point.

[@John-qv5ux]

​@@evergrandebestrealestate4854 This is a literal fact, and I was shocked when I found out, but believe it's a petty Airbus vs Boeing console war thing, I guess.

[@yammmit]

@@evergrandebestrealestate4854what i indicated that he was crying by literally speaking facts

[@Kuricang31]

Back in the old days lol when they were still called "United Aircraft Transport Corporation". Now they operate and have management independent from Boeing

[@Michael-ig8ne]

I doubt Airbus is hurting

[@giochi4]

Especially with such a back order.

[@JudgeHill]

And AF/KLM recent order….

[@trusttheprocess4775]

Oh it's hurting real bad

[@goobertaylorjr2322]

​@@giochi4boeing have a huge back order as well

[@SR_superior_1000]

@@JudgeHill Air India has also got 'em covered

[@fxde8389]

United: Biggest aviation order in history. Meanwhile Air India laughing in the corner😉

[@marktheunknown1829]

The aircraft factory might be scammed then

[@fxde8389]

@@marktheunknown1829 The same way the doctor scammed your parents.

[@geo-imeanspaceisepic1412]

@@fxde8389wow so funny im dying 😐😐

[@alirazayousif8976]

​@@marktheunknown1829lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hycubing]

*One* of the biggest airplane orders in history.

[@gearheadgaming1537]

The 787 was extremely comfortable to fly on but recently I tried the A350 and was impressed. I think they’re both winners for the customer

[@vondahe]

I’ve only tried the 380 and even being a Boeing fan, I admit that was extremely comfortable - as much as the 787 - so I can imagine how nice the 350 is!

[@markn6941]

I flew both and both are equally awesome but the view of the 787 wing tip swopping backward was something else.

[@gearheadgaming1537]

@@markn6941 the wings are gorgeous

[@satya.anandakrishnan]

The A350 is so nice. It feels like an actual advancement. Windows are big, engine noise is barely there and the seat configurations are nice when I flew on Malaysian

[@fssim6825]

787 was uncomfortable compared to the A380 from my experience

[@lenny108]

In total, Airbus delivered 676 aircraft in 2022, while Boeing delivered 480.

[@RLTtizME]

Yeah Yeah....but not the 200 to United.

[@benito0072]

​@@RLTtizMEit will take 100 years for them to deliver all 200 😂😂😂

[@RLTtizME]

@@benito0072 Oh Benito Mussolini.....how you amuse yourself.

[@benito0072]

@@RLTtizME 😂 let them continue with Boeing aircrafts as always lol

[@RLTtizME]

@@benito0072 Stop diddling yourself.

[@mh12-47]

UA originally ordered the A359 to replace their older 77E. They then ordered 45 A351 instead to replace their 744 fleet. When Boeing offered them dirt cheap 77W to replace them, UA decided to postpone their A350 order and went back to the A359.

[@YHDiamond]

Btw, it's a35k not a351. Also, do you think united will order the 777x once the program gets more stable in order to replace aging 777s?

[@MrRobarino]

And how do you know this? Where do you get your information from?

[@mh12-47]

@YHDiamond some people use 1 or K. They may order the 777X, but the 77W fleet is pretty young.

[@jemand8462]

Can you please use normal names if you don't even know the "professional" ones?! It doesn't make you look much more believable.

[@mh12-47]

@@jemand8462 hahahaha...it usually the airbus fanboys that get butthurt when you use K or 1 to describe the A350-1000....

[@WorldWide_Dom]

"United made one of the biggest orders in history " Airbus = "Laughing in Air India and Indigo"

[@SMJCMKA]

They said "one of"..read properly first

[@WorldWide_Dom]

@@SMJCMKA Get a sense of humor first

[@abhishakemitra]

Beat me to the commeent 😂

[@abhishakemitra]

@@germanempiregaming4469you don’t have context to get the joke

[@Aviator7477]

United is so big that they can buy entire commercial aviation sector of India and Pakistan. 😂 They currently have more aircrafts than all of the airlines of India and Pakistan combined. It's like comparing Apple with Xiaomi 😂

[@meRyanP]

It's not really that big of a deal when Delta will likely increase their A350 and A330neo fleets as 767s come offline.

[@shirleytwsw]

That maybe so but delta doesn’t have 200 767 to replace plus delta just ordered 100 737 max with option for 50 more so that offsets any airbus purchases

[@nipponsuxs]

​@@shirleytwswairbus continues to out order Boeing by 400 jets in 2022

[@darktear099]

I hate the 767…i fly to Chile every year on Delta & it flies a 767 from Atlanta to Santiago every night. The 767 is the worst. Uncomfortable, inconvenient…almost painful. Of course, I fly coach…I’m not rich. Still, LATAM flies a 787….so much more comfortable.

[@kai-matthiasbast8612]

​@@darktear099 well why dont you just fly on latam...

[@valyydzn.6782]

@@kai-matthiasbast8612cuz hes poor?

[@eyeofthetiger6002]

Just make sure you don't seat next to the door!😂

[@Boeing-Official]

Stop making fun of us

[@TheHardik112]

United: I’m Placing a huge order of 200+ aircrafts Air India: Hold my Lassi

[@obamalore]

Yea but air india and indigo ordered small planes not all long hauls

[@pandumiharja6769]

air india better improve your service. i've seen a lot of complain from ppl after they experience flying with air india

[@Aviator7477]

United is so big that they can buy entire commercial aviation sector of India and Pakistan. 😂 They currently have more aircrafts than all of the airlines of India and Pakistan combined. It's like comparing Apple with Xiaomi 😂

[@Aviator7477]

Plus Air India and indigo are literally most filthiest airlines in aviation sector 😂

[@abmm6261]

It makes sense if they are getting a tax relief to support American company

[@wayneobrien3332]

But Being doesn't receive any support from the government....yes I'm being sarcastic in case it wasn't clear...

[@blinkin78]

@@wayneobrien3332 they definitely didn’t get any protection when they build a plane that literally fell out of the sky, blaming the pilots and then covered it all up

[@andrewlarson7895]

@@wayneobrien3332 not like airbus does that's why boeing has won over airbus in court twice now and the war is back on in 2026 mark your calendars Airbus is going down.. Boeing 2 - airbus O🧐

[@jemand8462]

that's nationalism and is pretty much a toll on international companies.

[@ryan_n05]

@@jemand8462 Yup. There’s a reason Airbus has an A320 and A220 final assembly line in Mobile, Alabama, it’s so that the U.S. government doesn’t target the purchase of A320 and A220 aircraft by U.S. airlines at the request of Boeing. It has happened before, that assembly line makes sure it can’t happen again.

[@PrezidentHughes]

They really have a lot of confidence. Hope the type doesn't have anymore major problems.

[@bmused55]

I don't think this is a majow blow for Airbus. Disappointing for sure. But Airbus has no problems selling their products. If those A350s are cancelled, it won't hurt Airbus. Still, this is a huge order.

[@cell172]

Exactly, this just means more A350s delivered to loyal Airbus customers. If anything this is bad for United because they won't be seeing those 787s anytime soon.

[@xferaaaa]

PL la

[@Justin44777]

@@cell172 ???? they wouldn't be seeing the A350s anytime soon either fym

[@zaijiancelis]

Bro the first A350s are coming in 2030, Boeing can deliver their first 787 faster

[@jlg3315]

yeah, i'm sure they don't mind at all.....

[@caprature]

It will probably replace the old 777-200s and 767s. Hopefully the -400 lives on a bit longer.

[@afcgeo882]

Likely all 3. It makes no financial sense to hold onto a few -400s.

[@caltrain910]

The 787-8 / NMA will replace the 767-300ER. The 787-9 will replace the 767-400ER. The 787-10/-10HGW will replace the PW 777-200/-200ER The 777-8X/-9X may replace the GE 777-200ER/-300ER

[@afcgeo882]

@@caltrain910 Sort of, but that’s a very simplistic view on things. Planes don’t replace each other, but rather get assigned onto routes and hubs based on passenger/cargo demand, range, maintenance abilities and crew bases. Plus some of the aircraft will go toward opening new markets, especially the A321xlr, if it indeed ends up being purchased, although most will go onto existing 752 routes.

[@jatterhog]

@@caltrain910 the XLR will primarily replace the 757 not 767

[@Lelouch980]

Imagine those 200 orders are 737 Max

[@Blank00]

AA just got blindsighted in their race to become the biggest Dreamliner operator

[@johniii8147]

They have their own issues. Doubt that's really a concern at this point. AA's focus is all that debt they have.

[@drdoolittle5724]

No no no Coby, huge American conglomerate airline has been told to buy local to keep Boeing afloat, not a simple case of buying the best, just support local!

[@MrRobarino]

And how do you know this? Were you a fly on the wall of all those meetings? How is it that someone with no connections to anyone of importance in the airline industry would have information nobody else knows? Making things up yourself doesn't qualify as fact. So either cite your sources, or shutup.

[@drdoolittle5724]

@@MrRobarino ...and so you know everything without knowing anything - continue blithely in ignorance!

[@johnlacey3857]

Told...? By whom???

[@DeltaStar777]

I have nothing against Boeing but they are slipping behind Airbus

[@d_kortman]

@@DeltaStar777 especially quality wise. Everything went downhill after the McDonald’s Douglass merger p.s. no that was not a typo

[@caltrain910]

If United doesn't take their A350s order perhaps an order of 22 -8X and 22 -9X can be made to replace their GE 777-200ER and 777-300ER fleet. The 777-8X can be used on ULH/cargo-heavy/hot and high routes out of ORD/EWR while the 777-9X can be used on high-density transpacific routes out of SFO/LAX as well as LHR/FRA/TLV. Maybe they should convert the A350 order to A220s.

[@andrewlarson7895]

Now were talking!

[@afcgeo882]

That’s the idea, except the hot/high hubs are IAH/DEN.

[@caltrain910]

@@afcgeo882 The 777-8X is need for ORD/EWR-HKG/DEL/BOM/JNB.

[@afcgeo882]

@@caltrain910 I’m aware, but the JNB route is flown just fine by the 789 and the others have no altitude issues. 787s operate out of the others just fine as well.

[@caltrain910]

@@afcgeo882 The 789 both standard and HGW can’t take a full payload on JNB-EWR. But a 778 would increase the overall cargo revenue on EWR-JNB-EWR.

[@tubro541]

Air India is going to be buying 500 new aircraft... Indigo airlines is adding another 500 aircraft to the 500 they already have on order. Akasha airline is ordering at least 120, as are numerous other Indian airlines ordering lots of new aircraft. India has added 75 new commercial airports in the last 10 years, and more than 200 new airports are either planned or under construction. India could change the whole scene...

[@tubro541]

Hopefully they can convince Airbus to start manufacturing planes and parts in India.

[@vondahe]

Let’s see if they can pay for that but it would be a game changer for the ailing airline to get a new fleet.

[@spongebot6955]

787 offer cursor in cockpit for navigation Which has a350 don't So no. The Window seat arrangement is lot Better in 787 trust me i flew in both.

[@0741921]

Not many a350

[@hyderite1]

​@@tubro541Hell no, if that happens there would literally be plane crashes every day

[@shreyas_india]

Air India few days ago placed an order of around 500 aircrafts

[@arielleblond6201]

It's a very good news for Airbus because Boeing is losing money on every 787 sold.

[@Mopar_Logic]

Hahahahah

[@mmm0404]

As long as the a350/a330neo market share is kept below 40℅

[@Kodiak1293]

Lmao, your the winner. Silliest post so far.

[@soilentgreen7]

True, the 787 still hasn't broke even yet

[@ThatOneAviator777]

Actually they are gaining money 💀

[@kennyangel]

Airbus also has a massive backlog and most likely the 787s will arrive much quicker than Airbus could possibly fulfil the order.

[@bmused55]

Because thats the only reason to order Boeing, right?

[@kennyangel]

@@bmused55 well I have never been in the market for any airplane, so I have no clue. But certainly getting something quicker, when you need it is at least another buying argument?

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

The B787 has a larger backlog than the A350

[@kennyangel]

@@BrunoViniciusCampestrini larger in numbers or longer waiting time? I heard that customers have to wait much longer for an A350, Boing is definitely selling and producing more planes but I suppose they just have a much higher production capacity for that particular plane?

[@BrunoViniciusCampestrini]

​​​@@kennyangel both. Not only the 787 has a larger backlog (482 - 582 with this new order - against the A350's 410), it's production rate is also slower than that of the A350 (3 787s:5 A350s/month, although that should soon change to 5:6). And even though there are some talks about Boeing increasing the production to more than 5 787s per month, they currently can't even achieve their objective of 5/month.

[@gungadinn]

United Airlines already flies the 787 with GEnX engines. If they were to have selected the A350, they would have been stuck with Rolls Royce power. United earlier selected the Boeing 737MAX, powered by the CFM LEAP engine that is a partnership between GE and Safran. They will get a huge discount in pricing for a large fleet purchase.

[@andrewlarson7895]

No more of a discount then airbus would give dont fool yourself

[@gungadinn]

@@andrewlarson7895 with there being two engine choices on the 787, the engine supplier negotiates the power plant pricing. Yes, Boeing will give substantial discounts, but when you combine a 400 engine deal on 737 MAX with a 200+ engine deal, you’ll get very large discounts by GE. Both GE and RR offer complete maintenance packages where a customer leases engines by the hour all inclusive.

[@andrewlarson7895]

@@gungadinn yeah that's true but Airbus uses the same companies so why would there be any difference in discount there's really not I know I'm retired from Boeing

[@johniii8147]

Wasn't really part of the decision. It will come down since both RR and GE power the 787's of which gives the better deal. It's all power by the hour contracts on widebodies.

[@macpac22]

A350 is such a lovely aircraft to fly on.

[@NorcalValleyRailfan]

its hella ugly

[@A350MT]

@@NorcalValleyRailfan nah it’s beutiful

[@thabotshabalala7114]

​@NorcalValleyRailfan and what the 787 rear end is pretty???

[@NorcalValleyRailfan]

@@A350MT787 >

[@Lousy_Bastard]

Blinded by nationalism, who really cares they are massive corporations that couldn't give a toss about you.

[@ekuche8335]

Boeing started United Airlines so yeah makes sense.

[@afcgeo882]

So how do you explain the many United Airbus aircraft?

[@jahredt]

​@@afcgeo882there has never been exclusivity from United towards Boeing, and Boeing has never expected it. Just as United has not always had best customer status with Boeing. They are 2 separate companies that happen to have the same ancestors.

[@artjackson8360]

Boeing and United became separate entities in 1934. Such a stupid comment.

[@NorcalValleyRailfan]

Continental had only 1 type of Airbus in the entire history of them, from the 1930s to the early 2010s

[@MetaFootballTV]

Not true. Boeing merged various companies, but UAL already existed prior to this.

[@jammiedodger7040]

You say that but United new Narrowbodies are almost all Airbus.

[@syedabedi5780]

America protectionism, if this was a European airline doing its airbus Boeing would be screaming. Like it it with bombardier and the EU subsidies thing.

[@davemiller6055]

Airbus is subsidized by the EU governments. It can't make a profit. They need that money to stay afloat.

[@jcord0013]

Uh, Airbus wouldn't be here without massive EU subsidies. These gargantuan projects are a cultural peccadillo of the French, especially.

[@davemiller6055]

@@jcord0013 You mean like the A380 that lost Airbus billions?

[@edison6207]

Air india just placed the largest order in aviation history, of 470 jets from Boeing and Airbus

[@dmmchugh3714]

Where was United when the 747 needed more orders ?

[@haystackhider7158]

*Dear Boeing.* Here is the 787 "Black Beauty" we really want: 1. Blacked out windows 2. Vanta-black painting 3. GTI engines 4. 50" bling bling rims

[@ReidsAviation]

Unpopular opinion, United’s new livery looks so much better, my favorite livery of USA airlines

[@thecxnnon]

Almost the opposite is happening with delta

[@NorcalValleyRailfan]

well they’re ordering 100 737 Max 10s sooo? but overall they’re in the favor of Airbus

[@sukrithanekar1994]

Air India be like hold my beer and orders 500 new planes

[@Aviator7477]

United is so big that they can buy entire commercial aviation sector of India and Pakistan. 😂 They currently have more aircrafts than all of the airlines of India and Pakistan combined. It's like comparing Apple with Xiaomi 😂

[@arinjaidas1806]

Lol Air India just ordered 500 aircrafts🤣😜

[@Aviator7477]

United is so big that they can buy entire commercial aviation sector of India and Pakistan. 😂 They currently have more aircrafts than all of the airlines of India and Pakistan combined. It's like comparing Apple with Micromax 😂

[@aviation.comrade]

But they still have Delta who Is buying more Airbus jets and the Asian market

[@KanyeTheGayFish69]

The Asian market likes Boeing

[@wasmiddelsap3379]

@@KanyeTheGayFish69 actually not. The most Asian carriers going for airbus lately

[@KanyeTheGayFish69]

@@wasmiddelsap3379 a lot are buying max, and 787

[@iZipTiedMyPenisToABrick]

Delta is getting 100 maxs

[@wasmiddelsap3379]

@@KanyeTheGayFish69 What about the 320neos from China the 330neos malaysian and alot more

[@Scints]

American companies buy America, what big deal

[@Kodiak1293]

I seen far more foreign countries on the 787 tails than I seen American.

[@sogekinoshira8947]

If it's as reliable as the 737 Max...

[@rizwanwasi7019]

They thought to take 350 then Govt. Tightened the bolts of United Airline. It turned into 787 😅

[@cpcattin]

United Air originally was a division of Boeing.

[@pf5658]

Why are we arguing in the comments over who is making more money or who’s better between Airbus and Boeing? In the end none of us is profiting from any of their billions. Are we?

[@danielmeador1991]

Exactly and it’s not like the arguments are make any of the companies sell more planes

[@Lousy_Bastard]

Exactly the Nationalism would make you dizzy and those companies couldn't give a toss about the people defending them, its actually quite silly from both sides.

[@mrmakaiwi]

United needs to bring back the Tulip logo!!!

[@larrysorenson4789]

Thank you United for supporting the American airplane industry.

[@Zigzag99999]

Lol

[@stealth6567]

I’ve just flown from London to Chicago using the 787, and I literally felt 0 turbulence apart from entering/exiting the clouds. One of the best planes in existence, I swear.

[@jlmarc01]

I will admit, it flys nicely. But a bit crowded if u ask me

[@matthewtownsend2368]

Turbulence is not dependent on AC type

[@jahiredits]

air india laughing in corner with 400+ airplane order

[@Aviator7477]

United is so big that they can buy entire commercial aviation sector of India and Pakistan. 😂 They currently have more aircrafts than all of the airlines of India and Pakistan combined. It's like comparing Apple with Xiaomi 😂

[@jasonkaiser1179]

The 787 is a much smaller plane. It's not a direct competitor to an A350 or B777.

[@triple7marc]

It’s a competitor to the A330-900 which no one seems to understand. The A350 is a competitor to the 777. Coby has even made a video explaining this before.

[@jasonkaiser1179]

@@triple7marc he didn't make it clear that they wanted to downsize total number of passengers per flight.

[@bobjamison1889]

That’s good. American Airlines need to support American Aviation.

[@Embargoman]

By buying aircrafts that are made in Mobile, Alabama that is manufactured by a foreign based company.

[@jkjkjk100]

Widebody US market is small. Not a knock out at all.

[@MurexHyena]

United is really feeling the pain now

[@scotttild]

United with this order and the 767 max is going to be mostly if not entirely all Boeing in a matter of years. My guess is they are going to try and simplify the fleet.

[@b.k6307]

I'll wager UA will receive their first 787 in 2035 and that's being generous

[@SupaHogg]

What’s your updated take on them potentially ordering the 777X? If I remember correctly from I previous video, you speculated that UA would be the potential US launch carrier for the type since they were the launch customer for the original 777. I think this latest order goes a long way in leaning towards that. Thoughts?

[@johnhaller5851]

I think the 777X is too big for US carriers. It's the same reason no US carrier ordered the A380. The operators of the A380 are all single hub airlines. Most US carriers which fly internationally have several hubs with different demands. The US airlines have heavily optimized their operations to maximize utilization of these airplane to both fly into and out of their US hubs during the day when they can connect to domestic destinations, as well as arrive internationally at times when they can connect with alliance airlines. This may mean a SFO->Frankfurt plane may return to Newark, where it can leave again on the same day to Europe. But, unless all routes can supply a full 777X of traffic, it makes more sense to operate multiple 787 than have a few unique 777X which are difficult to utilize. This doesn't matter as much to someone like Emirates, as all their flights are out and back, and connections all happen in Dubai. They can utilize different size airplanes with their out and back, and can use the bigger planes on thicker routes. The 777X makes sense here, where they can get scale on routes.

[@johniii8147]

@@johnhaller5851 You're referring to the multi hub structure of the US carriers. US carriers still make a vast majority of their money on domestic routes. They don't need the biggest aircraft since it's all about frequency. Very different market than say EK where it's all international

[@0741921]

​@@johniii8147 he said what you just said

[@evoem4582]

Why are they ordering more 787’s when don’t fit as much passengers where as the A350 does

[@Jakesmusings]

Continental has always had a strong relationship with Boeing. I worked for Continental for over a decade Since the days when Gordon Bethune ran the company, and he was the Boeing guy in charge of the 757 development if memory serves, they’ve ordered Boeings.

[@jevmobile]

American buying American, I mean why wouldn’t you! Invest in your countries economy and buy the best machine you can!

[@CitizenZero1]

My prediction: their first 787 will be at least five years late. Bad decision, imo.

[@triple7marc]

Bad decision according to you 💀

[@MrRobarino]

If you think you have the ability to predict the future, why aren't you buying lottery tickets? Why are you wasting your talent on KZbin videos making predictions about things that have zero affect on you whatsoever? Fool.

[@CitizenZero1]

@@MrRobarino because I enjoy making judgmental morons feel superior.😀

[@jahredt]

They already have many 787s in service and several already in production. They were already one of the top 787 customers before this order.

[@DroopyPenguin95]

Age in years has very little to say with aircrafts. It's all about their take-off and landing-cycles and how well they are maintained

[@im_not_mad]

Hope they order more max’s too!!! I also hope they come with optional early exit door models

[@mik222222222]

Both great from a passenger standpoint apart from the 787’s wonky window shade system

[@EazyELowzCompton]

Well done United. Go big !

[@arnoldcobarrubias6593]

*bad idea

[@KilotangoAV]

​@@arnoldcobarrubias6593 definitely not

[@yobb1n544]

@@arnoldcobarrubias6593 The 787 is objectively better than the a350. Cheaper, better fuel efficiency, looks sexier.

[@hadesflames]

@@yobb1n544 Will go down more often. Kill more people. Crash more often. Yup, just wins all around.

[@parker02311]

@@yobb1n544 cheaper doesn’t always mean better but alrighty. Edit: Depending on the fuel pricing the A350-1000 actually costs less to operate per passenger(depending on seating configuration) because it can seat more.

[@eduanstander7613]

United tbf picks Boeing seeing as its a american company so probably easier to get better prices and feels more you know patriotic. Airbus still has bigger customers though like emirates and Singapore airlines. But the tides might turn as mentioned by you before that emirates will retire their A380s soon and will need something to retire them with

[@jamesbong4928]

Soon?

[@bmused55]

@@jamesbong4928 First Emirates A380s are already being scrapped. Plenty photos to see. So... soon means soon.

[@billolsen4360]

It's a ploy to improve Biden's numbers on unemployment that Hunter and Obama cooked up.

[@davemiller6055]

Emirates will buy the 777X. It's the only thing big enough to replace the A380. Emirates actually wants a bigger A380 but Airbus won't build it. The 777X is bigger than anything Airbus has.

[@jamesbong4928]

@@bmused55 - they've stopped making them but they'll still be flying for another decade at least, not just scrapped. So not so soon after all!

[@TrainSounds]

They should’ve kept the Airbus order in my opinion.

[@planesofhawaii]

it’s still there

[@0741921]

Not surprising since they prob had some kind of advantage by supporting an another American company. Too bad though, a350 is much better than 787

[@carnotan]

Call me crazy but I don't trust the criteria of the guys that decided to wipe the aisle of a plane with an Asian doctor.

[@johniii8147]

Still talking about that?

[@JDBass36]

Isn't the A350 a better plane? If I'm wrong please correct me

[@explorelondon3695]

Might be the case but the A350 is too much an aircraft hence doesn't' fit into United's Fleet Matrix based on the current Fleet structure and the airline's future strategic focus and objectives. The 787 is therefore the right aircraft for United from a Business perspective. Anyone who understands aviation objectively would have made the same decision and an saying this as am Airbus diehard. Congratulations to Boeing

[@triple7marc]

No.

[@andrewlarson7895]

No its not a better plane really 777x is the better plane for most applications. They will both sell pretty well over the Long haul.

[@edwink1467]

@@andrewlarson7895 Nope. The 777X and A350 are barely in the same size class. Both have their places and both do well in their own regards. It's silly to say one is better than the other when the answer is highly dependent on the airlines and the specific routes they intend to operate on.

[@jemand8462]

yes, in all regards. It's all about politics and taxes.

[@xr6lad]

Hardly a blow. So Boeing have to discount things so much because people don’t want them as a first choice and they end up selling for less than cost. Everyone with a degree in economics knows you can’t do that forever.

[@ACPilot]

Mind you, you do not know what they paid for the planes..

[@nikolauswolff5791]

In September 2010 there wasn't even a small sign anywhere of the A 350 project when United and Continental merged. That's simply not true.

[@raging_carnut]

Airbus should just cancel their a350 order with united.

[@edwink1467]

Why would they cancel a customer's order for them? United likely can't cancel its A350 order without losing significant amount of money, which means Airbus doesn't have to do anything. Either way, they are getting paid.

[@jemand8462]

@@edwink1467 They can. Both parties can get out of those contracts, Airbus has already done it with Qatar.

[@edwink1467]

​@@jemand8462 It's not a matter of whether they can; it's a matter of whether they *should* as the original comment said, "Airbus should just cancel their a350 order with united." Of course Airbus can cancel the order, but why would they do that when they stand to gain nothing? Airbus isn't the one who wants to cancel - United is. By delaying delivery to 2030 and beyond, United is buying time for negotiations with Airbus and RR to avoid breaking the contract and losing money. So from a business standpoint, Airbus is better off not doing anything and letting United figure it out. If United doesn't cancel, Airbus keeps the order and wins. If United initiates the cancellation, Airbus still gets paid a good amount of money and wins. But if Airbus initiates the cancellation, they get nothing. The Qatar situation is different. Airbus was tired of dealing with Qatar and cancelled their orders to avoid having to deal with them again.

[@jemand8462]

@@edwink1467 Exactly, that might be a good reason to cancel with united, as well. It mus cost a lot if they postpone service by 14 (!!!) years and airbus can't even be sure if they still want it then. I think it could be a rational decision to give the capacity to more interested companies who will actually buy them instead of just postponing

[@edwink1467]

@@jemand8462 No, there is no reason for Airbus to cancel the order. They are not concerned about A350 delivery slots after 2030. Airbus knows United will have to make a decision sooner or later. What's the rush?

[@RICHARDCAMPBELLRCDJ0]

Good move by United Airline,its looking to the future with brand new aircraft.

[@afcgeo882]

787s aren’t brand new.

[@iZipTiedMyPenisToABrick]

​@@afcgeo882 the ones being built are

[@leroiarouf1142]

Fun fact United is not the only air companie il the world...

[@LearnToWin9638]

Boeing is the better option for major airlines like United to order new airplanes for its growing fleet and network 💯🤷🏻‍♂️🛫

[@apolloniaaskew9487]

With the large number of 787 orders, it's time to start back to building them in the Everett Washington plant. Ironically, United Airlines was born out of Boeing Air Transport before the monopoly break up in the 1920s.

[@Kodiak1293]

And has nothing to do with this deal. The problem with Everett, they can't build the -10 there. BSC can handle rate 14, which is pretty decent. It may could get to 16, but would be tough.

[@spxncxraviation]

Coby, Keep the good content up! (:

[@charlesvon155]

YESSS!! As someone who hopes to be a commercial pilot one day I can say with 100% certainty that Boeing is better aircraft manufacturer despite their somewhat recent controversy. The amount of trust airbus has in automation disturbs me…

[@Jt_787]

Personal opinion here, I’ve travelled quite extensively on Singapore airlines a350’s and recently on Oman air’s 787, I felt the 787’s are better than the 350’s

[@ryan_n05]

It’s kinda funny how United and Delta are complete opposites in terms of what aircraft company their management prefers. Delta looks like they’re trying to become an all-Airbus fleet, whereas United seems to want to have a mostly Boeing fleet.

[@afcgeo882]

Each company must pick a side to het discounts, except Delta placed a large order for 737max.

[@ryan_n05]

@@afcgeo882 They did order the -10 variant, which likely will be cancelled. So Delta will either have to switch to the -8 and -9, or cancel that order entirely.

[@afcgeo882]

@@ryan_n05 We don’t yet know if the -10 will be cancelled. Boeing has said that they don’t expect the certification until Summer 2023, so there’s time for Congress to pass an extension even in 2023.

[@ryan_n05]

@@afcgeo882 There’s also pressure from pilots unions to not grant the extension. That plane won’t be certified.

[@afcgeo882]

@@ryan_n05 Not from Southwest pilots, the largest operator. Also, the APA is not the one who has a say in this matter. ANYONE who claims something definitively while it’s undecided is simply displaying their lack of basic intelligence.

[@DreamFreeFPV]

I think I'd rather fly on an A350. Just saying.

[@danielfence189]

Been flying both of them. They’re basically the same plane.

[@revaddict]

United really needs a modern livery..

[@RushOrbit]

Continental Airlines had the current United color scheme and globe symbol before the merge. The red logo was already long gone.

[@joshgutierrez7380]

Good decision

[@planeshane9193]

Go Boeing

[@danieldankest]

the next vid i found was about a350 dimmable windows

[@whizkid4386]

It really doesn’t matter because Boeing is facing some turbulent times at the moment, so expect this order to get further revised down the road.

[@manin10]

I love the way people think Boeing is manufactured in the US and Airbus is made in Europe. When in fact the both depend on one another to produce aircraft. Boeing and Airbus parts come from all over the world and are mutually dependant on one another!

[@FlatEarthKiller]

Its still valid though. “Assemble” is better as it is connecting and attaching the final pieces together.

[@jemand8462]

Imagine being in a world where company decisions were driven only by reason and rational thinking and not nationalism and empathy...

[@yolo_burrito]

In a low margin industry like the US airlines every decision financial.

[@jemand8462]

​@@yolo_burrito So why then exactly did they change from a decision for the (much better and newer) A350 to Boeing? You're 100% in the wrong here. In a big industry, the majority of the decisions are political

[@jonathanb.1215]

@@jemand8462 maybe the 787 just fit them better for example training the crew, discounts, relations, the size etc United chose Boeing because it clearly works for them the a350 and 787 are not competitors so there is no reason to choose one over the other, I think they want the flexibility of an airplane the size of a 67 rather than that of a 777 otherwise why wouldn’t they get the a350. That said they may get the 777x but again crew training and a cheaper price would be major factors

[@yolo_burrito]

@@jemand8462 the 350 slots closer to the 777 not the 787. The 787 is newer than the 350. There is very few superior planes some just have better business cases. Some older aircraft are used because of their capabilities like the 757 not because they are newer or more efficient.

[@johnlacey3857]

They are driven by money... period. Certainly not nationalism, and empathy... are you kidding??? 🤣

[@autoparts101]

Airbus and Boeing fans: 🔥💀😡 Airbus and Boeing in general: 🗿🤝

[@cnn787-i9e]

The only reason that United ordered the 787 is that it's smaller than the A350 but they can squeeze in the same number of seats as an A350. You get smaller seats in the 787 though.

[@cellpat2686]

United and Boeing are joined at the hip so you know they will use Boeing as they have for over 80 years. United and Continental also are joined at the hip so for one to have bought the other should not surprise anyone.

[@Kodiak1293]

Yea, those airbus planes in their fleets are big models just for show.

[@jeffreydeeds9225]

Fantastic! United has really improved in the last decade. The 787 is a superb airliner. Great choice! Not to say that the A350 is not a great airliner too. Both are terrific and have proven to be efficient and reliable for operators.

[@novaguy509]

The 787 isn’t a Boeing. It’s outsourced parts that are supplied by the cheapest vendors possible then assemble by Boeing staffers pushed to the limit to pump out as many planes as possible.

[@sm5970]

I only bump into aviation news and don’t really seek it out anymore because it has now come down to ‘Airbus dealt a major blow, United orders a Thousand Boeings! Boeing in trouble, Lufthansa order 10 thousand Airbuses.’ It’s so boring.

[@VOLVO_B5LH_HYbrid]

2015-2023 Singapore airlines joins the chat with around 170 a350s and 20 a380s with emirates who has around 90 a380s and 60 777s followed by scoot airlines who has 200 a320-232s LAUGHING IN THE CORNER

[@doncook3584]

These will be bolted closed from outside and are fitted with pontoons so they will be landing on water. No wheels needed

[@jackplays2236]

united when 787: *WHERE'D YOU GET THAT PLANT, I WANT IT!!!!*

[@a.a3849]

Indigo can help with that

[@richiewalker0114]

Excellent. Keep an American airline supporting Boeing.

[@JayJayAviation]

Could this mean that United might be getting 777Xs to replace aircraft on higher-capacity long range routes? Once the original 777 production line gives way to the 777X, it’d seem like a realistic option given their interest in staying with Boeing.

[@nolan7434]

The 777x would replace the 773, the 787 does not have the capacity.

[@JayJayAviation]

@@nolan7434 that’s what I said

[@CMDRFandragon]

I ordered 2 787s, one for American, one for Air Canada. They look pretty cool sitting my desk

[@jacesobey6498]

I am wondering what the fate of the United A321neo order will be now that UNITED will be going with 200 787s and 737MAX aircraft.

[@davemiller6055]

If you ordered an A321 NEO now it would be many years before you got it. Airbus is so far behind.

[@jlmarc01]

Can’t wait for the 777x. Don’t care for either the A350 or 787

[@PBMS123]

THIS AGED POORLY