University! British VS American | Evan Edinger & Meowitslucy

University is SUPER different in thE UK VS USA! I personally prefer the US!
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[@doddleoddle]

Lucy u r so cute and smart smart smart smart

[@livsxx7413]

luuuuuuuucy moooooooon

[@lucymoon]

+doddleoddle Dodie I described you as "the taylor swift of youtube" earlier

[@Hannah-qi7hr]

Is it bad I ship it

[@whoretuary]

No offense but dodie and Lucy would be cute together ❤️

[@evan]

+doddleoddle RIGHT!

[@LaytonObserves]

As a current university student, I thank the British government for loaning me their money… That they'll probably never get back

[@Yasmin-mj2rc]

#RobthisEngland

[@Lucy-xw6oe]

Ohhhh they'll get it back... No matter which way *cracks whip*

[@Lucy-xw6oe]

LaytonChronicles OMG NOOOO NOT A RACE JOKE I SWEAR IM SOOO SORRY ARGHHH WHAT HAVE I DONE

[@LaytonObserves]

Lucy Allsop Ahaha, Somehow, without knowing what you look like, I imagined your reaction It's all good :')

[@Lucy-xw6oe]

LaytonChronicles my head was on the table.

[@insomnish]

Hearing all this detailed shit about college and university, as a junior in highschool, makes me want to run away to the woods and become a forest person.

[@Scottx125Productions]

+αναℓση It is intimidating but don't worry, people generally want to help you (atleast in the UK) and it is extremely overrated for the money you pay in the UK, all you pay for it guidance and the degree certificate, that's it pretty much.

[@mimi5n]

you are me😩😭

[@ailish5602]

Go into uni in Ireland its really cheap and fun. Theres sports teams and options some of the tops universities in ireland are University College Dublin, National University of Ireland Galway , University College Cork , University of Limerick , Maynooth University and Dublin City University

[@sydney7354]

let's go together

[@courtneytaylor7198]

same

[@leahletford6532]

Scotland: a plastic bag costs more than your education

[@sinnvolltasche2169]

+ Jane Doe Same in Germany.

[@venlas]

Same in Finland!!

[@islalawson1327]

paranoid android no they didn’t....

[@No-ni1lc]

Isla Lawson yes they did, scottish mp’s were under the Labour whip back then, and so they voted with Labour to introduce them in England but not in scotland

[@SorchaSublime]

@David Clinging david go fuck yourself.

[@joshuamitchell5530]

I'm British. I just don't understand the American system. I thought the point of higher education was to go to university/college and specialise in a specific subject and get a degree. How can you specialise in something if you have to do English, history, maths, the history of art?!

[@sirbenjamaicad.6472]

Its specialization in your last 2 years. Because US high schools have so many varieties, each University has to make sure each student has the ability and knowledge to specify, as some kids will and some wont upon entrance.

[@LovewayKid]

Not everyone knows what they want to do when entering university. It's nice to have the opportunity to learn about numerous things before having to commit. Thats the reasoning behind elective, plus they're a way to expand your mind passed just the field you want to go into. Taking art at a Biomedical Sciences major was really relaxing and a good way to balance with my natural science courses.

[@afrikanologyxo]

The American Higher Education system is just for coin TBH. A waste of 2 of 4 years.

[@gloriaholly2927]

Joshua Mitchell me too, where I'm fron you have 8 years of middle and highschool where you're forved to take ~ 14-19 subjebts (depending on the school's curriculum) and don't get to chose anything apart from the 3rd or 4th language you'll learn in year 5(of the 8), so by the end of highschool, you have the best general knowledge you could possibly have, uni is for specification, why continue general knowledge, you gotta specify at some point

[@sarahmotteram4244]

the american education system is a year behind us so their first year of uni is like our last year of a level. Kids in america start school at age 6/7 where as here we start at 5/6. My friend has a conditional scholarship to UCLA and only has to get ABB to miss the first year of american uni

[@MyNamesChai]

Woah! Who's this Lucy girl? She's funny, I'm gonna sub to her.

[@elaird]

Her KZbin username is MeowItsLucy, I think!

[@bentregenna3336]

+Emma Laird I'm pretty sure Chai was joking

[@elaird]

+Ben Tregenna oh. Well, it's nice to be nice, I guess haha

[@janemarie8589]

+MyNamesChai Are you and Lucy going to date?

[@mollygreen6386]

Same. LOVE YOU CHAi!

[@DeviantBetgee]

Loving these UK vs American videos

[@ellarowley9956]

Love name and icon ;)

[@cheerykira]

Love your videos!

[@DeviantBetgee]

Kira Howlter Thank you.

[@harrison6775]

+Beth Philosaur you're on every video i see I'm scared

[@DeviantBetgee]

+Harrison Fletcher-Brooke I'm just youtube trash. I like commenting on youtuber's video.

[@karltoontv]

Wow. I still prefer the UK Uni's because focusing on one subject i s less stressfull.

[@IshtarNike]

It depends how many topics you have to take. I think the US system is better because you can tailor your degree to suit your tastes, rather than finding out that you hate it and having to drop out for a year in order to start again at square one (I have multiple friends who ended up doing this). Furthermore it encourages broader education and means that humanities majors can at least dip into college level science and vice versa. Much better overall (if you exclude the price and the clearly extortionate textbook system).

[@liamgalvin3742]

we do the one subject in MUCH more detail though, equally stressful tbh

[@Mangomigraine]

you study one subject, but you learn more of that subject. British courses are more in depth basically.

[@killadog84]

not only are they more in depth, they're TOO in depth. half the stuff they teach you, you'll never need to use in a professional job.

[@sarahmotteram4244]

the thing is though, that most american universities are behind british univerities which is why in the first year american students learn a mixture of things because english students learnt it the year before. My friend has a conditional scholarship to ucla and he only has to achieve ABB to miss the first year of university in america

[@RachelKatWalsh]

omg US university sounds like the shittiest thing

[@kate_6436]

They are

[@RachelKatWalsh]

Kate H i feel for u

[@Bruh-mg5ff]

Nah I wouldn't say that we have really good state school (at least here in Texas aka a state in the U.S)

[@musanarutofan]

To be fair he did say that his uni was rated pretty low... prosb not same for all of them :D

[@XaverScharwenka]

Still, 12k for the cheapest school, that's daylight robbery.

[@amandaegebjerg-mller7222]

In Denmark university is free. From you are 18 you get paid by the governtment to go to school (High school and university). It's not very much in high school, but in university it's 900 dollars each month. We don't have dorms so you have to rent a place yourself.

[@amandaegebjerg-mller7222]

Also we can drink from what age we want. We just can't buy alcohol until we are 16. (16: Light alcohol and 18: strong alcohol.)

[@kate_6436]

Okay that's awesome

[@emma122002]

Mum, we're moving to Denmark!

[@caitiehouston]

It's free in Scotland too and if you stay on in school for 5th and 6th year (being 16-18) and your parents don't make a certain amount of money then you get paid every week and same for college...not sure about uni though

[@sofiamalin8519]

Amanda Egebjerg-Møller Im moving

[@kerrypeterson554]

"Pretty much every uni in the UK is 9 grand a year. And some are like 6 grand a year." Except, you know, Scotland. 😎

[@gonexgirl9372]

Kerry Peterson isn't that only if u live in Scotland, because if i went to a uni in Scotland I would have to pay 9k

[@orlathorburn297]

yeah if you live in scotland it's free although sometime you'd have to pay up to £2,000 depending on accomodation etc

[@hdoingherbestt]

Also SAAS! Oh my god! Love it! They give you like £500 minimum every year! I mean, £8000 a year Loan, £500 is a bursary!

[@faithlesshound5621]

Tuition fees at all British universities used to be paid (since WWII) by the students' local authorities as long as they qualified for a grant (for housing and expenses): which depended on their parents' income the previous year. Fees were abolished in 1976, but reintroduced in 1998 at £1000/yr by Tony Blair, supposedly a Labour prime minister, for England and Wales. The Scottish government introduced them for English students, since Scots have to pay if they study in England. Grants were replaced by student loans. The amount universities are allowed to charge has gone up: all of them ask for the maximum permitted. Overseas students pay very much more. Many courses are only commercially viable if there are enough overseas students.

[@chocolatecoatedllama]

US university sounds like literal hell

[@jones6604]

It is

[@mythicalmim]

You're right, it's awful

[@burgerfry6565]

The money part of it, but that shouldn't define your whole experience.

[@mskelseypeters]

skipped it. Went to a 2 year conservatory (still mad expensive)

[@kpredd13]

+chocolatecoatedllama no they are nice, other than being in serious debt for a crazy amount of your life, it is an amazing opportunity and you can really branch out and learn so many different things while still focusing on you major and minors etc.

[@skylarkwhy]

Here's me just being like..... Scotland's education is free for Scottish students....

[@andymcl92]

Sky Lark Also for EU students, but not for fellow Brits :p

[@GuessWho195]

I was also thinking that when she said that basically all Universities in the UK cost 9 grand xd. *high five*

[@TheGleeksrock]

If you’re not from Scotland and you go there to study, the fees you pay are the ones you would pay at home. In Ireland it’s technically free because there isn’t tuition but here is a €3000 registration fee but in Scotland that isn’t counted so it’s free for Irish people in Scotland.

[@hyabg4795]

here is me being like, WHAT? WHY? NO?

[@sophiejohnston9659]

Sky Lark it annoys me Scotland is completely different and much better and then that go call it the uk and Britain yeah we are part of it to I wish we weren’t tho I fucking hate England

[@ashleyserrano4045]

Evan looks like a blonde, American Phil in this video XD (He even has the same T-shirt)!

[@strawberrykylie8118]

I'm so happy I'm not the only one to notice XD

[@kat-fk1vo]

I thought I was the only one who thought that omg

[@krispynoodle1142]

my mind was just blown

[@kalena1985]

As soon as the video started, I paused to look for these comments lol

[@serenovington7208]

I think we all thought this tbh

[@mpk0422]

Wow Evan, that shirt looks phantastic on you

[@naomiruth2071]

+mpk0422 Ayyy and plus it's Phil's t-shirt too

[@mpk0422]

+Naomi Ruth ;) you know it

[@amyfolan5764]

No

[@mpk0422]

Phan Army so much yes

[@IndiTube]

+Mktrenton the sun if the universe wbu (but you should subscribe- amazingphil)

[@OhItsJustKim]

i always forget university is that expensive for the rest of the UK. the welsh government capped it at £3000 and i don't understand why england didn't just do that too?? fuckin clegg. but like whuuuuuut how does anyone in america even afford to exist and learn ANYTHING

[@Emma-vn8xf]

+OhItsJustKim It was £3300 until 2012 or so wasn't it? I absolutely hate the government for the amount we have to pay in England. I sort of want devolved powers in England too so they only control things that are essential for the whole country but we'd still end up with Tories in charge so it wouldn't help much.

[@Luna-dm2dc]

+OhItsJustKim In the US we can get loans, grants, and/or scholarships. Evan said his community college was free because of scholarships, without those it would have cost him at least $2000 a semester. My first year of community college I had to pay some out of pocket, but grants covered most of it. My second year was free because I got a tuition waiver because my mom got a job at my school, so I only had to pay for books which was covered by my grant. Paying for it is possible, but it can be kinda difficult.

[@elvsie]

Waaaales❤️❤️

[@kerrypeterson554]

And, you know, in Scotland it's free *cough*

[@seallofapproval]

+Emma SAME! urgh god my sister was born in scotland (happpy holiday accident) and she'll get her uni fees for free, it's ridiculous. It shouldn't be so expensive in Britain, it would be helpful if the people in our government actually understood what money means to ordinary people...

[@BronyDanProductions]

I would like to see you react to British sitcoms, because, not bragging, but we did make some of the best sitcoms ever.

[@PhoebeS]

so true brit sitcoms are the best

[@rorysullivan8293]

OUTNUMBERED

[@MiriamFrance]

Miranda 👌

[@PhoebeS]

+Miriam France MIRANDA IS THE BEST THING EVER I WISH IT HADNT ENDED

[@MiriamFrance]

Phoebe Storch Or Gavin and Stacy!

[@Msfinable]

I'm absolutely blown away by how much you guys have to pay! I go to a Finnish uni, we don't have any fees and mostly can get the books from our library (which also means it's always a bit of a hunt to get them on time..). There is a mandatory fee for the students union (100€/year) and small fees for subject associations (10-50€/year). And we don't have dorms so have to rent, but the city has cheaper housing for students. And EVERY student gets financial support from the state. I get about 200€/month, still living at home. If you're renting and don't earn much, the amount is about double. To get this money you have to get enough study points per year, but that's not too much really. I feel incredibly lucky, writing this all out... Okay so basically guys, come to study in Finland 😅

[@Msfinable]

And that money I mentioned you get to keep. Student loans are available as well on top of that

[@desertrose0601]

Wow!! That's amazing. I wish the US would value education like that. It's so depressing to leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. People who go on to study to be a doctor, for example, have more years of schooling even and can end up with hundreds of thousands in debt. Such a bad influence on the nation's economy.

[@melissacook1152]

In scotland, you don't need to pay any university or college fees if you are a Scottish resident :)

[@Msfinable]

Melissa Cook good for Scots!

[@JDlovescats979]

It's so frustrating the amount you have to pay to go to college in the US. I go to a public/state university so I have what is considered a LOW total cost of $20,000 a year. Most private universities (like the Ivy Leagues) cost upwards of $60,000 a year.

[@aaronjackson1875]

“In England we all just make friends” What? No. In England we all avoid each other like the plague.

[@MrSpruce]

A well-aged comment.

[@matewhatthefuck6516]

Hahahaha indeed we do!

[@poppyk8848]

I think that everyone now

[@Liggliluff]

Could people please do that with the current plague-like disease.

[@faizachowdhury4293]

when will evan run out of British (and Irish *cough*) friends stay tuned to find out

[@ellarowley9956]

Icon 😍😍

[@cheerykira]

Amazing icon js

[@jazzlynjohansen9332]

God I love the phandom

[@IIMwieMandyII]

In Germany you barely have to pay tuition fees (like 2.000 euros a year which is fine (but it depends on the thing you study)) and the uni system is like the English one; overall I think our universities are quite good, except for the difference that we don't have campuses here. I'd imagine that to be so cool sigh

[@evan]

+Mandy Stahr Campuses are my fave part!

[@IIMwieMandyII]

Evan Edinger exactly lol but then it's like "do i stay in germany without campuses and also no fees or do i go to england where i can live on a campus and pay a shit ton of money" well i'm sorry england

[@emeraldibis7510]

+Mandy Stahr Not all universities here in the UK have campuses either. Some do, some don't. So if you do come, make sure you check it out first!

[@eichenmaliatate]

+Mandy Stahr We have a campus at my uni and i'm studying in Germany...

[@IIMwieMandyII]

Alice Tamara really?! i've never heard or seen that ever before here

[@klcpesan]

In Scotland, we pay taxes so that every child can go to uni, not how rich your parents are. Most universities in Scotland, you have your degree subject and you do a bunch of other topics with it and we don't pay our loans back until we earn a certain amount. They way students are treated in the rest of the U.K. is awful!

[@amymclaughlin3063]

agreeeee 1000% ridiculous having to pay

[@Tailsbeth]

+Kirsty Campbell Thank you for saying how Scotland's different, literally feel like I have to comment every time with these UK vs USA videos. When it comes to education the UK can't be represented as one :P

[@klcpesan]

+Tailsbeth yeeeeees!

[@izaakwedgwood9153]

+Kirsty Campbell the way you pay isn't any different

[@klcpesan]

***** yay! But it had to be closed :( at least the new bridge is on schedule and under budget!

[@robhenderson1932]

You guys are assuming that someone with a PhD is a good teacher. Teaching is a skill that is entirely different. I have multiple degrees(5) and some of the best instruction came from people with Masters Degrees. Some of my absolute worst classes were from idiots with a Doctorate. They were very knowledgeable in their field but had no clue how to disseminate the information and make it interesting. I had a calculus professor that was a genius and could do any math problem or scenario, however he could not teach what he knew to the class. We all just looked at each other and said we are screwed. He should have never been allowed to interact with students.

[@jessicagalloway7211]

this shouldn't be called British😂 hahahaha I'm in uni in Scotland there's no tuition fees😂

[@jessicagalloway7211]

Sorry, university in Scotland is a bit differant to university in England. I love this video though! :)

[@gingerandginger]

Ahahaha I'm Scottish and I was thinking the same thing

[@bellapalmera]

Just to clarify the part about Masters degrees being 6 years in the US - the Masters program itself is only 2 years, the 6 years includes getting your 4 year bachelors degree first, which you have to have in order to get the Masters. I hope that makes sense to whoever is reading this!

[@keepXonXrockin]

+bellapalmera that's good to know, I was pretty shocked at the MA programme being 6 whole years xD Here (Germany) it's roughly the same, 3 years BA, 2 years MA.

[@dazzlechampion]

+keeponrockin A decent amount of masters degrees are also one year if taken full time.

[@keepXonXrockin]

what would full time mean in that case? because German MA degrees that last 2 years are also mean to be full-time, just like a BA taking 3 years is a full-time course of studies.

[@dazzlechampion]

+keeponrockin Full time BA in the US with no prior units carrying over from highschool is typically 4 years. a masters can be anywhere from one year to anywhere really. there's two types of masters: Taught and Research. Taught is the typical classroom and exam format, which means it has a scheduled beginning an end like regular school. Research is done when you finish the topic you are researching which then typically requires a thesis. The thesis is a rather large paper and can be a pretty hefty project. Even after you've done the research, typically you still must have the paper topic approved by a scholastic board of professors at W/e university your studying at. If they don't approve, you'll have to step back and to a certain extent start over. Depending on how bold you are in your choice of research, it can can take years in itself. Aldo when I say paper, I really mean a book. some thesis can be in the 100s of pages

[@keepXonXrockin]

King George That's interesting. I Germany, I guess all Masters degrees are taught, but you won't get around doing your own research. I have to take exams and also write research papers, just like I had to for my BA. Lectures usually end with a written exam, while seminars usually require you two write 15 - 20 pages. My final BA thesis only had to be 30 pages/75.000 letters, my MA thesis is required to be 80 pages long.

[@BaskingintheAmbiance]

The way you guys talk about this and the background music is so relaxing but then I realize I have to start applying to colleges **starts hyperventilating**

[@MightyTiger21]

Aww poor Basking

[@BaskingintheAmbiance]

Ayla R AWWW really? Thanks so much! Love you!

[@secretrockchick]

Same D:

[@djidesoul]

I have an essay due by midnight ;_;

[@elysehileman6324]

Is it just me or does Evan seem to be developing a British accent?

[@stuartcrossland1746]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIGVeoitiKxgbMU

[@IshtarNike]

You started a master's dissertation the night before, allowing for the usual exaggeration, maybe a week before. Wtf were you studying?!

[@NotLegato]

i know a guy who wrote his *bachelor's* dissertation for MONTHS.

[@joshuamitchell5530]

Not Legato everyone writes their dissertations for months!!

[@NotLegato]

Joshua Mitchell oh, several months ago, i knew severly less about university, and how it worked. yes yes, i know.

[@PopnRockPlaylists]

Not Legato Our dissertation including the research took the whole final year. We had other modules to do as well. But a month before the deadline we had to have a rough dissertation to get advice on it from our lecturer. So doing it the night before wasn't optional! And 10-12,000 words in one night? No thanks!

[@Damo2690]

LONG LIVE SCOTTISH FREE UNIVERSITIES

[@carbonaracrack9705]

YESSSS

[@lukewilson2184]

David Clinging wow dude you must be fun at party’s eh stfu

[@mrbayd3069]

@David Clinging wtf

[@jmurray1110]

and please bring them to ulster

[@matewhatthefuck6516]

EDINBURGH REPRESENT!!!

[@evebennettx]

I've actually been looking at universities abroad and this really helped! :)

[@evan]

+Eve Bennett I genuinely recommend at least studying abroad in America for a semester or 2! It's a good experience! :)

[@evebennettx]

Evan Edinger It's on my list of options!!

[@bensmith9320]

+Eve Bennett +Evan Edinger I go to University in England but studying in America for a year at the moment, loving it!

[@sophierussell3215]

hey eve! love ur channel so much! cant believe evan replied to u!

[@ellogs]

Love the British vs American videos , but some of them are more English vs American . E.g In Scotland we don't pay to go to University (: Include us Scottish, Welsh and Irish ! 💙🇬🇧

[@lucymoon]

+Ellis.A Sorry! This one is probably my fault for being extra english

[@ellogs]

+meowitslucy It's okay ahaha, just me being picky 😊

[@alexturlais8558]

yeah but wales and n.I have the same as England, its just Scotland demands to be special

[@ellogs]

+Alex Turlais Ooohhh hell no, you did not just say that to a proud Scottish person >_

[@alexturlais8558]

Ellis.A you mean stubborn?

[@LenaWolschaap]

So usa high schools are so crappy that you have to spend time at university to learn the stuff students from other countries learned when they were actually IN highschool? That must be so annoying...

[@toriandtilly]

LenaWolschaap no no we learned that stuff in high school too... they make us re learn it because apparently that makes us more "well rounded". Its bullshit.

[@jdreis]

Evan just touches on it! The system is actually broken. For example, an american student can do well in high school and even take advanced courses called AP courses (along with the AP exams) that are suppose to actually clear the student from having to take the course at university, only to find out that the number of universities that actually allow these AP courses are quite small. There are so many ways that american universities force students to take extra courses it is ridiculous. It is always about them making more money.

[@craigisaacson7630]

In my school you could go to a community college for free during your last two years of high school so about half my class finished high school with all their generals done which transferred to almost any college in my state

[@siriuslykookie4835]

ok scottish people we get it your universities are free omg

[@user-uu3wp2mb6r]

Ikr

[@PolarsArchives]

Stfu let us vent

[@CraftyWitch1990]

It's one of the only good things about living in Scotland versus living anywhere else. Shut the fuck up and let us have our moment.

[@talentshowcaseandmore8090]

In the video 2:53 to 2:56 Lucy: (questioning)"Who pays for that?" Evan: (screaming) ME!!!!! Lucy: "Where from?" and "No one has that money" Evan: (screaming) "I DON'T KNOW!!!!"

[@theneekofficial8829]

Did anyone else imagine David tennant screaming “I DONT KNOW” from his first full ep

[@llinossmiles]

WAIT WAIT WAIT - the book situation isn't the same for all UK universities. It is in fact a new thing now (starting this year) in some universities to have your core books for free but for many it isn't. Although, our books are rarely that expensive (referring to the physics book).

[@emeraldibis7510]

+llinossmiles The difference is, in the UK the lecturer will never say "turn to page 241 in your textbook". They're expected to provide all of the information in their lectures and write assignment questions themselves. So its often useful to own textbooks to help you, but you don't *need* to have them really. And usually the university library will have copies of all the main books so you can just borrow them if you want them to help with an assignment or something. From what Evan said, I get the impression that in the US you literally need the textbook because the lecturer will refer to it directly and if you don't have it you won't know whats going on.

[@llinossmiles]

Oh yeah I mean I get that, I was just pointing out that not all UK universities are the same

[@kpredd13]

+Emerald Ibis Nah, half the time you never even need the book on they syllabus they tell you to get the first two weeks of class in the US. Unless you are in a class where you have to bring to book to class and that part of your grade, you can just borrow them for free from the library. I only purchased and rented a handful of books my entire undergrad life. I used the library and its scanner/photocopier.

[@marija]

+Emerald Ibis well it depends on your course and uni still. Eg, I'm doing English lit at a small uni that has a tiny library. We did HAVE to buy £100 worth of textbooks in first year, that we read in class, or we had to have read for the next week because discussions. And yes you can borrow from the library, but with over 300 students doing eng lit, with about 10 copies in the library there's not much you can do but buy them. In addition, we always have 'set texts' that we have to read that aren't at all provided and aren't available in the library. In my 3 modules this semester I've had to buy 10 books on Amazon amounting to about £120 doing it the cheapest way. Without the books I wouldn't be able to do any of the assignments or go to any lectures because you are expected to discuss the texts in length during the lecture/seminar.

[@emeraldibis7510]

marija Ah OK, I guess that makes sense for a course like yours. I did a science course, so I hadn't really thought of that!

[@cjgrath218]

Actually it's English university's VS American as Scottish university's are FREE

[@carlaanderson2293]

@hufflepuff harry potter lover yes it is

[@aasrithkammula5004]

@hufflepuff harry potter lover how...... daft can you be?

[@daddywambat]

US universities are much more easy than UK unis. I had a Geography teacher for A level and he told us a story how he went for a year to study in the US for his degree and he was allowed to give lectures because the level of geography that he had learnt at age 17/18 for A levels was higher than the level for the US degree. Apparently the US students were doing multiple choice questions as well and the teachers were amazed that he could write essays.

[@MrGoflorida]

I'm not sure what 4th tier university he went to, at almost every American university essay's are the majority of coursework assigned

[@egenifcation3]

Yea for real. Unless it was like a 100 or non major class (which would be mostly freshmen and jrs/srs looking for an easy A to fill credits) And unless he was a TA, masters student, no way was he lecturing doesn't work like that

[@JDlovescats979]

Idk what university he went to, but that is far from the norm. As a 1st year college student I have already had to write multiple essays and the only time a course uses multiple choice is when it is a lecture with 600+ students, even then there is often an essay portion of the test.

[@Chids1130]

Doug McQuade bruh what school did he got to, I need some easy A classes

[@alexandrastamm8452]

Yeah I heard the American version of the Leaving Cert (English is A Levels I think) is multiple choice :o

[@AL-tm1ve]

Yeahhhhh British schools don't teach us grammatical terms, and it's always proper awkward when foreign people know them and you don't. I mean, we know the grammar rules, we just don't know the names of them.

[@sherrygg6551]

They do teach them now like I'm 22 and my younger brother is 17 and he knows all of these terms that I dont know the name of and I didn an English degree

[@marcypan8219]

They don’t teach them in Ireland either. In 1st year (7th grade/year 8) you stop learning grammar and spelling entirely and start learning how to write essays and analyse texts.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Traditional grammar used to be taught, but the teaching profession had a change of heart in the 1970's and all of that was junked, at least in state schools. Private schools carried on because the parents wanted it.

[@user-vd2jk7dl3p]

Wow as an American that shocks me. We always assume the U.K people are probably experts at that type of thing.. We have to learn this stuff every year from about 1st grade (age 6) and we have to diagram the sentences.

[@MediaMushroom]

This is more to do with English Universities. In Scotland our degrees are 4-5 years long depending on the degree, and they are completely funded. There are also several bursaries available so if you're paying rent with your student loan you can still afford to live comfortably. Most people also choose three subjects in first year (including their main degree), continue two of them in second year and then focus on their main degree or a joint degree in their honours years. Also, the ancient universities tend to be more spread out around their cities than campus based; for example, Edinburgh University owns over 700 buildings around the city.

[@CraftyWitch1990]

@hufflepuff harry potter lover scotland is in britain so your comment is completely redundant. Wales didn't even get a bloody mention!

[@bronwynbyrne2297]

I live in Scotland & we don't pay for university here, a thing called SAAS funds for every students university education which is amazing!

[@evan]

+Bronwyn Byrne LUCY LED ME ASTRAY

[@indiar9721]

+Evan Edinger if you are from England you do have to pay if you go to a university in Scotland

[@bronwynbyrne2297]

i know thats why i said in Scotland we dont pay which is amazing

[@Lynn_l]

Amazing when I go to unerversity il move to scotland xD

[@jonbehere]

This was fascinating, intriguing and occasionally appalling. The money you guys have to spend!!! Also SO glad I did an art course. I did three essays in the entire of my BA. That said, I have basically zero job prospects relating to my course lmFAO.

[@KaraFielding]

His comments about uni in America is very New Jersey and his school specific. For each state regulations and payments for public colleges will be different and within the circle of public colleges within that state, payments and regulations will be different. Nothing is completely standardized anywhere. And schools in different regions of the country will be very different from other regions. It will also highly depend on the major/course you've decided to do. I never had to pay for a $300 book in my whole college career and I wouldn't ever say that the books I had to get for my courses in total ever amounted to $300 per semester. It also helps to know where to get your books from. There are many online websites that look for the cheapest options across all the major academic book websites. My tuition a year was about $7k - 8k unless I had to pay for rooming on campus and I didn't go to a bad college at all. Schools in the Northeast are notoriously more expensive than most of the country, especially with most of the Ivys being up there. So a lot of people go down south for college because even with out of state tuition it's less expensive and a better education than schools up north (at least on the east coast). I find throughout this UK vs US series it's all been only his experience (which is of course what he has to draw from), but you have to take that into account cause the US is huge and for the most part each state is going to be very different for a lot of things and depending on your own financial situation, you're going to view the colleges in very different ways. And that's not even getting into private schools that make their own rules entirely.

[@GlitterGal456]

2 years of college down in America and already $20,000 in debt. 'Merica

[@autumnlover12358]

I know the feeling.

[@syrinacrockett8290]

Unless u get a pell grant and then the government pays for the college or scholarships or u work for the college in exchange for it paying the tuition.

[@1seriousgearheadify]

And you will graduate with far less knowledge than if you pursued a trade. I know...it sucks

[@laurynhowell3329]

@@syrinacrockett8290 that's only of you're super poor

[@syrinacrockett8290]

Lauryn Howell I’m not super poor and I get pell grants. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Feliciawithoutfins]

Just Subscribed! You're living my dream as an American in London. Went there couple of years ago and it has stayed with me since! Loved listening to you both talk! Very interesting

[@evan]

+HiFelicia thanks!

[@chloeblake6847]

I can't stand London...

[@emilybarker331]

+Evan Edinger bye felicia

[@jeansat7922]

+Chloe Blake HOW 😵

[@keiranmarley4052]

Why??

[@alinapahl4839]

and then we're sitting here in Scotland going to uni for free...

[@TheDrumstickEmpire]

Yup and us English pay for it! Fun!

[@ellacyan8684]

This video was really helpful. I am thinking about going to uni in Britain and this has pretty much confirmed that I will probably do that.

[@ellacyan8684]

Also I would totally use that "capitalism" thing as my ringtone

[@thejuzey]

+Steampunk Llama I've literally just got my university application in (I'm British and am applying to British unis). The application process is stressful (although it sounds much better than the American one), so good luck! What subject do you want to do?

[@bunnyfaceperson123]

+Steampunk Llama terrible idea

[@bearbee1891]

Secondary school in the UK is v hard, (GCSEs equivalent to SATs at age 14/15/16), college is also hard and university isn't as hard as the above😅

[@AnnoyingBritishKid]

+Steampunk Llama if u can afford it then do it. Its the best/worst time of your life.

[@ReSliSt]

The only thing that doesn't cost any fee or tuition in US college is breathing, at least not yet.

[@jodie2763]

*I sit down in class* *30 mins go by* My phone: CAPITALISM! Teacher: What was that?! Me: Sorry, I got a text. Everyone: What kind of text tone is that. :/ Me: LEAVE ME ALONE

[@glossygloss472]

Lies

[@littlenimi774]

owch, I did two years of my degree at a £6000 a year college/uni which was community college equivalent and I wouldn't call it one of 'the bad ones' at all and I very much wanted to go there. Not about the status of where you go, just what you make of it!

[@elio6037]

I thought this too!! I actually study with the OU, so god knows what she thinks of that.

[@ratgirlratgirl7928]

is it just me or does lucy kinda look like keira knightley?

[@omelette4604]

a little bit?

[@kierabutler1739]

Lucy:responsible Adult Evan:responsible adUlt America vs UK

[@aliew5362]

It's literally 4 AM and I'm watching this. I'm gonna be screwed when school starts again with this sleeping pattern.

[@hadrian6709]

I realize now that I love Norway...

[@cIaimthestars]

+Laura Fossmark We are frikkin lucky over here!

[@jpmentertainment8100]

+Laura Fossmark What is it like in Norway? Just out of interest.

[@hadrian6709]

I

[@hadrian6709]

Joe M If we don't include private universities there's a lot. Public education is free, our loans go to housing, food, books and other things we need, thus making our debt remarkably less then yours. Very few people live in dorms, there are more shared flats or tiny student homes. We have no sororities but the student union organise loads of different stuff. This is poorly explained, but if there's anything else, please ask :)

[@jpmentertainment8100]

I think it's an American thing to share a room as I am in student halls at the moment. I have my own room but I share a hall between about 10. I see about that student loan part, that would be good. When people argue that the tuition fee's are good in England they always say 'Oh well if we stop paying £9000 a year then the university won't be as good' and I just say '....bollocks mate, look at other countries'.

[@jobabes170]

This is why I love being Scottish and going to Edinburgh uni. No fees yo

[@tristanlau1213]

A good uni with no tuition fee......I'm kinda jealous now

[@michaelmiller8614]

In Scotland it's free sooooooooooo

[@zKiiLaZ]

For Scottish citizens and EU, not for the rest of the world though.

[@NowhereBeats]

+Lewis james Does that mean English students can all just study in Scotland for free?

[@nathanmartin5102]

+Jaw Ji I wish! Nah we still have to pay the £9000 like we would in England.

[@rhonacraig1418]

Yaldi

[@cbrachel]

David Clinging no it’s isn’t

[@TheGryffindorable]

she looks like Helena Bonham Carter

[@evan]

+Victoria Daisy who dat

[@TheGryffindorable]

also why is Uni so expensive in the UK and US in my country we pay like 300€ a semester lol

[@pluginthevoid1422]

+Evan Edinger the woman who played Bellatrix Lestrange in Harry Potter.. and the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton).. and a lot of other things..... please tell me you were joking..........

[@TheGryffindorable]

+Isabela Br Germany

[@CharlesCrossley]

MCR FEELS

[@QueenResi]

He looks like a mixture of Phil Lester and Tyler Oakley xD

[@MindTheGrad]

I found this very interesting! And also really glad that I went to Uni in UK, it sounds so expensive getting a higher education in America.

[@dansanders9121]

"Do you know what you do at Community College?" Smoke a lot of weed.

[@nathaliakinsey8113]

watching this and panicking because I have mocks that will decide my predicted grades tomorrow and I'm not ready................

[@sofiascott9596]

Saaaaaaaammeeee

[@louisetrott]

predicted grades mean nothing. a levels will make you 1000% more stressed I promise

[@nathaliakinsey8113]

I'm sure you meant well, but that wasn't exactly a helpful comment.

[@nathaliakinsey8113]

Thanks, they actually went ok!

[@sarabea4817]

This is more England vs America.. in Scotland all tuition is free, paid for by the government. Nevertheless I love this series :D

[@katyisthatpotterslay]

The capitalism bit had me at shits and giggles

[@nowhxreboy-4607]

I know no one cares but it's my birthday tomorrow. Also these England vs America videos are so interesting!

[@mimiewood]

+Mary - happy birthday for tomorrow xx

[@cheerykira]

Happy early birthday!

[@bekind2694]

Happy early birthday!😊

[@raventrunite6459]

+Mary - as a lame birthday present, as you are a member of the phandom, you now have an excuse to re-watch dan and Phil's 2014 baking vids. Bc Evan is wearing Phil's ghost shirt!!!

[@WakieMartikainen]

In Sweden we get paid to go to school actually. Like the mandatory nine years and gymnasium you get a certain amount every month and then in Uni you can loan money.

[@GreenMcGeek]

The whole Scottish curriculum is very different. You should talk to a Scottish KZbinr..........

[@martindornan1667]

@David Clinging It was John Logie Baird a Scottish engineer and inventor that demonstrate the first working television systems on 26January 1926.

[@lukewilson2184]

David Clinging how the hell would it be in color it was 1926 most Hollywood movies didn’t have colour shut up you moron I bet your english or America that why didn’t get a great education and your now butt hurt over it stop complaining over the Scottish and get a job ffs

[@martynnotman3467]

you forget the first aim of most student unions is provision of cheap booze. i got blindo on my first night by 6pm...

[@rihana21x]

Can I just point out that university in Scotland is free

[@Rob749s]

So American uni is just expensive advanced high school? At least it gets you out of home. That bachelor's degree sounds almost worthless. My mechanical engineering degree was 4 years of laser focus. The Australian system sounds half way between the us and uk. About 30k for a degree but the loan is interest free and you dont pay it back til you make 70k a year (it comes out automatically)

[@Bruh-mg5ff]

Well that's if u want to stay and live there u don't have to

[@Rob749s]

+Em Bridget So basically the Universities take up the slack of shit high schools? I thought american universities had performance-based admissions? Shouldn't that mean everyone is at least on the same level upon enrollment?

[@desertrose0601]

Yes basically. You do take some focused courses in the last two years, but the first two years are very general stuff - similar to high school only more expensive and you're away from home usually.

[@lcflngn]

Rob749s In the US engineering tends to be in a specialized college with very few "breadth" requirements, also laser focused.

[@sirbenjamaicad.6472]

They do, but a large amount of people just dont go to college.

[@kacey_cat]

Regarding US college costs: I was going to go to Berklee College of Music as a music therapy major, and the tuition there is $65k a year and rising. Due to medical setbacks, though, I've had to stay home and take online courses through a local community college working towards a 'communication studies' major, and I think my first semester's tuition was maybe $3k-$5k? Bearing in mind that Berklee is one of the best music schools in the country (Think Julliard level greatness or better) and does 4-year bachelor's degrees AND graduate school, and my community college only does 2-year associate's degree programs and I'm taking my classes online to cut down costs further, that's still quite the price difference.

[@juliahormayer7255]

In Austria university is for free lol (I'm still gonna go to England 😂)

[@tomosprice8136]

Aber Österreich ist schöner als Großbritannien :D Die Berge sieht so schön aus. Sie haben auch nette Städte wie Wien, Salzburg, Innsbruck und Linz. In Großbritannien haben wir Liverpool, Glasgow und Milton Keynes (sie sind nicht so gut)

[@juliahormayer7255]

Kann schon sein, das weiß ich nicht (Ich mag Österreich auch voll gerne, besonders Wien), aber England hat viel bessere Universitäten, die auch mehr Wert auf Soziales legen und ich will mein Englisch perfektionieren :-)

[@tomosprice8136]

Julia Hörmayer Heutzutage muss man nicht in England fahren um English zu lernen, besonders in Europa. Die Meisten Leute sprechen English :/

[@juliahormayer7255]

Tom Price Das ist mir schon klar, hahah? Aber nur seeeehr wenige sprechen es auf dem Niveau, auf das ich gerne kommen würde, nur die allerwenigsten mit britischem Akzent und es geht mir ja nicht nur um die Sprache?

[@tomosprice8136]

Julia Hörmayer haha das Stimmt. Es ist immer besser wenn man eine Sprache lernt, dass man mit Muttersprachler sprechen kann ;)

[@andivangreer]

I love these difference videos, Savannah. Keep 'em coming.

[@butterflybonanza7535]

I'm sorry but Evan looks a lot like Phil today a t-shirt exactly the same, the hair the same, and the glasses are similar... The phantom is everywhere

[@butterflybonanza7535]

*phandom

[@evan]

+ButterflyBonanza THERE'S A GHOST IN MY ROOM!?

[@butterflybonanza7535]

+Evan Edinger RUN FOR YOUR LIFE

[@TROYCETV]

SAME AMOUNT OF VIEWS AS SUBSCRIBERS!

[@Satsukii98]

In France it's almost free : you pay 184 euros when you start university and then that's it. And if you have a scholarship than you don't pay anything. We're lucky

[@dahidghoulam3974]

Alice Foulquier you guys are!

[@ashleytodt1867]

You were willing to get only a 52 on your final paper (essay/dissertation)? That is what, a third (maybe a 2:2)? If you're going to pay for a masters degree at least try to be a 2:1 if not a first.

[@ThatAmateurActress97]

I'm jealous of the Scottish universities, they don't pay! Well it's only if your Scottish you don't pay. If I wanted to go to one of their universities I would have to pay. I believe that's correct? Can someone from Scotland let me know if I've got that wrong?

[@amymclaughlin3063]

true! you have to be a scottish citizen to get free tuition

[@emeraldibis7510]

+Amy McLaughlin You actually don't, any EU citizen except non-Scottish UK citizens can get free education in Scotland! It's illegal under European law to descriminate based on EU nationality, so they *have* to treat other EU citizens the same as Scots. But there's no law about Scotland having to treat English/Welsh/Northern Irish citizens the same as Scots, so we have to pay.

[@amymclaughlin3063]

Wow really!! I didn't know that, that's cool. So someone from Germany could study here for free but someone from Wales couldn't?

[@emeraldibis7510]

Yep! It's a really strange system haha

[@emeraldibis7510]

Regina Filipa Well we are EU citizens, but the law only applies to EU citizens from other countries. I think the intention of the law was really just to stop countries giving their own citizens preferential treatment over people from other EU countries, so I guess they weren't too bothered about situations like this.

[@23magneta]

A Master's degree is 2 years (sometimes 1) in the U.S...not 6.

[@21rosexoxo]

I'm pretty sure he was including the time it took him to get his bachelors because you can't be in a masters program without a bachelors

[@amymclaughlin3063]

evans videos are always quieter than most

[@amymclaughlin3063]

also, i love love love the uk vs american series BUT Scotland is often thrown in with the uk facts like "£9000 a year" one when in fact university in scotland is free! gotta be aware of scotland's devolved powers as there is such a difference between education here compared to england

[@elvishelen6]

woow in italy it's much harder!! italian uni students do an average of 10 or 12 exams a year, usually during two specific times of the year like during january/february and june/july. classes start usually at semptember and you go to class until you take the exams wich are both written and oral tests and then you start other classes and do other exams and so on.. people never get grades on something they did at home

[@ItsJessLouisex]

I'm actually really excited to go to uni in 2 years 😁

[@capitalb5889]

I hope you're enjoying it!

[@Whydidmyhandlechange414]

At my university in the UK we have a 24/7 library in term time, pretty much every single book we need is there and so we don't need to buy books. Most research papers are free. There are different types of accommodation, most being flats with 20 people in them over three floors. If we decide to do a second degree we do have to pay for that one. I'm also doing dual honours, so kind of like two degrees as I'm doing two subjects. Hence I'm doing two dissertations, of 5000-10,000 words each!

[@MrSpitfireGames]

Bloody love Evan and Lucy collabs!

[@lucymoon]

+Joe Sheldon I love them too!

[@izzylee4992]

Where's your pinafore/ dress from? x

[@cIaimthestars]

+meowitslucy I'm backing Izzy's question, please tell me where your pinafore and jumper is from? They're GORGEOUS!

[@ktttttw]

$300 for one book?? wtf was that thing made of

[@evan]

+Katie pure science

[@ktttttw]

+Evan Edinger i had to pay £25 for one of my a level books and i thought that was expensive wow

[@GuzRoca]

Capitalism

[@ksneksj72828]

+Katie must've been made out of bill nye's fucking tears man

[@eleo_b]

Lucy seems to really look down on American education and she's not even hiding it. Keep in mind that everything is based on Evan's interpretation and experience. She could have at least pointed out flaws of the system here as well.

[@xXxsandii8xXx]

I always forget that uni is super expensive for the rest of the UK! I'm Scottish and our tuition fees are paid for us which is so so lucky, I don't even understand how people manage to pay so much per year?!

[@Melissa-wx4lu]

+charis sandison Rich families But most people (at least in America) use student loans. Which is not always great. My ex-step father went to college in America and now (or at least was last I heard) works at Microsoft.....but he's paying student loans for the next 30 years. 30 years! that's the same as a house loan.

[@ChloeF420]

i loooove these British and American comparisons

[@evan]

+Chloe F Thanks Chloe! :)

[@SixtySecondYoga]

In the UK you can buy second hand university books from students off eBay for a reduction of the price wtf?

[@pipercharms7374]

+SixtySecond Yoga We don't need to buy any books, so far as I know most Uni's in the UK have libarys with a LOT of books and every book you'd need would be in that libary. But that is just my Uni, I'm not sure about others

[@burgerfry6565]

You can do that here, Amazon, etc. You don't have to buy new.

[@jpmentertainment8100]

+Piper charms I go to Northumbria University and our library is huge! We have 9 floors all in all. I haven't bought a book yet because of the library.

[@gacaptain]

+Piper charms At our Engineering, Math and Science Schools you are forced to buy new books because your courses are graded very much on your completion of homework problems out of the book and the books along with the problems in them change every year. It's robbery without a gun.

[@gacaptain]

+Joe M You obviously dont take a science based, engineering or computer class. If you did you wouldnt be able to get around buying books.

[@kaik1841]

When I was writing my essay, my friend put the final paragraph on a high shelf, I really needed that paragraph but did want to jump to conclusions....badum tss here all week people

[@nadsaw]

tfw you're Scottish and you don't have to pay for uni!

[@rvbychxrry]

HOLD UP _HOLD UP_ *_PHIL LESTER HAS THAT SHIRT_*

[@evan]

+jojo koziol!! Yeah he started wearing it after he saw me do it cause we're both cute

[@cheerykira]

I've gotten to the level of Phangirl that if anything with relevance to them comes up I scream internally XD

[@SixtySecondYoga]

+Evan Edinger You are both incredibly cute! When are you going to collab?

[@ellarowley9956]

+Kira Howlter same

[@trash2127]

+Kira Howlter WAIT KIRA HOLWTER _KIRA_

[@KitanKate]

My uni was 7,000 a year (UK) and it was Askham bryan

[@justinmason100]

university is free in Scotland... which is part of the UK. I think you should change the title

[@gracieliz95]

We have student unions in America. And I had 4 girls in my room, no joke. Not in a suite. A room about the size of a standard hotel room.

[@emeraldibis7510]

+gracieliz95 That sounds like it really sucks. How is each room attached to the other rooms? In the UK each student has their own (very small) room, which usually comes with a tiny en-suite bathroom. There are are usually 6 identical rooms per apartment, and each apartment comes with a shared kitcken. There are usually hundreds of these apartments in a single building. A room usually costs about £110 ($170) per week. Students usually only stay there for the first year though, and then after that rent a 5/6/7 bedroom house off campus with friends.

[@AttackOfTheBees]

+gracieliz95 Oh wow . . . I so would have hated the rooming with strangers thing.

[@Emma-vn8xf]

+Emerald Ibis 6 rooms?!? I wish it was 6 people, we have 12 rooms in our flat and nowhere near enough kitchen space. It makes me sad. And considering I'm paying £5000 a year for this room, you'd think there could be a washing machine in the kitchen.

[@emeraldibis7510]

Emma Haha wow, that really is a lot! I've seen places with as few as 4 (very big and expensive rooms) and as many as 8, but never anywhere near 12!

[@bigtimednp]

+gracieliz95 Geeze! Where do you go?

[@ollydavis861]

It's back, it's the spooky Phil shirt

[@alexwright4930]

Yeah this is mostly about English universities. Scotland and Northern Ireland have completely different education systems. And Wales has some differences too I think. Student loans are a de facto graduate tax really.

[@ACIDXO]

This is so helpful for me because I'm going to be an exchange student in England and I'm from Canada (so it's like an in between of Canada and America)

[@MrsKajoProdutions]

u have the same shirt as phil omg

[@cheerykira]

Yeah he dressed up as Phil for Halloween last year :D

[@merzzies2134]

Nope Phil has the same shirt as Evan 😜

[@ardenchaplin349]

I was looking for someone who noticed The phandom is everywhere

[@brookedavo]

It should really be English vs American

[@theresajuhl1672]

At Danish uni you get paid to go. Like 6 grant (danish kroners) a MONTH!

[@michaelsolotky7445]

Hm, interesting, higher education in Russia looks very similar to british, except you in almost all cases don't pay for anything.

[@armandliebenberg6826]

I just released how cheap University's are here in South Africa (around R40000-R60000 a year or $2500-$3800 per year however this excludes books and student housing which would double your costs )and that our system is somewhere between the UK and USA.