University Challenge S53E33 Manchester v. Christ Church, Oxford

[@Elcio_Leal]

Very exciting match. Congratulations to both teams. Thanks again CP for uploading these videos.

[@jamesmakey2792]

MATCH STATISTICS AND COMMENTS BELOW S53/E33 Note: individual team member stats are towards the bottom. 18 rounds (17 rounds completed; the game ended before any bonus questions could be asked in the 18th round) 26 starter questions (18 answered correctly + 8 additional starter questions on the occasions when neither side answered a starter question correctly) 51 bonus questions (17 rounds x 3; no bonus questions in the 18th round) 77 questions in total (26 starter + 51 bonus) 515 points available in total (26 x10, plus 51 x 5) 53.4% of the 515 points available were scored ((145 + 130)/515) Manchester 28.2% of the total points available (145/515); Starters 9/26; Bonuses 15/24 (62.5%): Penalties x4 Christ Church 25.2% of the total points available (130/515); Starters 9/26; Bonuses 10/27 (37.0%); Penalties x2 MANCHESTER 145 POINTS (starters 70 points + bonuses 75 points) STARTERS 70 points Senehedheera (Capt.) 4/9 less penalties x3 = 25 points De Los Reyes-White 1/3 = 10 points Kullmann 1/2 less penalties x1 = 5 points Grady 3/4 = 30 points CHRIST CHURCH, OXFORD 130 POINTS (starters 80 points + bonuses 50 points) STARTERS 80 points Wotton (Capt.) 7/10 less penalties x1 = 65 points Dean 1/3 less penalties x1 = 5 points Gorgianeh 0/1 = 0 points Lowe 1/2 = 10 points It was evidently a match won and lost on the bonus questions, since both teams answered 9 starter questions correctly. Christ Church, interestingly, only got 37% of their bonus questions correct. That aside, Christ Church's Arthur Wotton is one of the most impressive contestants that I've ever seen on the show, and I'm a bit sad that he won't be taking any further part in the series. There appeared to be a moment of anguish for him in the 17th round when he may have sensed that the game was slipping away from him (26:13). Well done, Manchester, on a great win.

[@vishvice12]

Wotton should keep his head high despite of the elimination. Amazing performance

[@alexanderassaf8820]

thanks for spoiling it LMAOO

[@hopt322]

@@alexanderassaf8820 no1 told you to read the comments

[@gerritulrich9202]

This tense and close final had me sitting on the edge of my seat. Had tears in my eyes seeing Christ Church lose in the end - feel like Wotton deserves an MVP. Well done all players!

[@zaphbrox8239]

At this point it is sad to see anyone go. Wotton is a beast. Too bad we've seen the last of him on UC S53.

[@aliceharuna4]

I thought his amount of knowledge was incredible.

[@EssRybak]

It was amazing of Wotton of Christ Church, by the way. He carried his whole team.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

He seemed to grow match by match.

[@anthony1947]

Agreed. He didn't deserve to be on the losing side

[@blipblop5757]

Yeah, did Gorgianeh and Dean answer any starter? I think Lowe answered one. I think Trivalent was very gettable and easy and would have swung the tie in their favour.

[@darkmoney7762]

@@blipblop5757 Yes. Dean answered the negritude one though I see that Wotton was about to buzz on that one too lol. Gorgianeh didn't answer any starter but gave one bonus to CC-O.

[@TaraKelly-c9l]

Agreed. I think he was accused of stalling in their first round match, but that was wrong. He was just getting used to it, a great quizzer and team captain 👏 😊

[@glenntimmermans8277]

Mr Wotton, you are extraordinary.

[@marty9011]

Such a close match, often only 5 points in it. Well done winners. Thank you CP.

[@havingalook2]

That was a nail-biter of a performance. Many thanks.

[@martinstent5339]

19:20 You can see him smiling with pleasure! Nice to know that Wotton is also a Jorge Luis Borges fan! One of the few questions that I could answer…

[@s-6019]

I am too... But I think it has more to do with him studying Spanish

[@chrishobbs58]

Thanks again, CosmicPumpkin! What a back and forth affair! These two teams were fairly even in ability, although I feel the more "well-rounded" team won. In my guess before the match started, I did pick the winning team, based on this criteria. But it literally came down to the last question. Sad to see the losers go, they were a likeable and enjoyable bunch. Kudos to the winners, who will be a tough out for anyone going forward. My best to both teams, and to each individual.

[@SingaporeTuition]

Wotton seemed to be a one-man team against a team of 4.

[@lailedcat]

It’s getting to the stage where I’ll be sad no matter who goes home, and happy no matter who wins. Great job to both teams, this was a really tense match.

[@gabsymalone6307]

Well, that's the end of Manchester's non-penalty run - happy though that my alma mater made it for the first time in a decade to the SF's by the skin of their teeth 😰. Will miss Mr. Wotton - 32 starters over 5 matches is astonishing and may be enough for best of the series, dependent on how the other games go. Christ Church's overall lower bonus rate came back to haunt them - both teams got 9 starters but 15/24 vs 10/27 probably tells the full story of this game.

[@thisisphitran]

I think Senehedheera knew he messed up as soon as he heard the words "military genius" but it was too late to change his answer by then. Seriously, Frederick Douglas the military genius? 🤣

[@MrPotsy81]

Thanks for posting. Fan of Manchester. Hope they win it all. I actually got a few of these. I usually don't do well in these later stages.

[@andrewclifton9772]

Thanks for posting CP. I can pat myself on the back for getting three answers they didn't. Mind you they got about 40 answers I didn't.

[@MrHatsuka1]

Pressure is getting to everyone here. Good close match!

[@flare2000x]

Very close and good game, two nice teams. Glad Manchester got it, I've enjoyed watching them, and they did a great comeback.

[@ralphie4498]

Wow what an intense match! They were going blow for blow and I truly had no idea who was going to come on top until the final buzz. Loved all the aggressive guessing! Senehedheera my GOAT

[@empedocles200]

I noticed that - he seemed to be going for absolutely everything even with a few penalties

[@jessicaellina3878]

Very exciting match! High tension towards the end..a few nervous blunders, but great performance by both teams. Congrats to Manchester! Enjoyed this so much,thank you!

[@matifyy]

Hi, this is Larry! Wow, that was a tough match. At least we got through to the next round.

[@AbsoluteGuardian]

Really glad to see Manchester go through, they're such a great team. Wotton was an absolute powerhouse in this though.

[@VoraciousGhost]

"He's not in Percy Jackson, so we don't know him" haha I'm glad at least some of their knowledge comes from everyday sources!

[@riowhi7]

Yall are sleeping on Manchester Senedheera, he did really well with those the starter questions

[@arkdeniz]

Pressure on both teams at the end there. Neither coped with it especially well. Good to see a close game though. Trading the lead throughout.

[@parkviewmo]

The questions are getting more and more difficult! Exciting match! Thank you CP!

[@murmurrrr]

Wotton played so well even though you could see the nerves were really getting at him!

[@grimftl]

From Allen, Texas, thanks for the dose of culture. Lots of tough questions.

[@freddiethecutestcavapoo9184]

Thanks, as always, Cosmic P. Manchester has a better balanced team overall, which tipped the balance against Wotton’s valiant attempt to, yet again, keep CC-O in the running! Without him, oh dear! However, Manchester’s knowledge is sorely lacking in some areas and I honestly can’t see them holding the prize at the end!

[@Ramboost007]

Hopefully none of them were colorblind because in the Japanese prefecture picture round the red waa hard to see

[@illyrialol9591]

Wonderful match, big fan of Manchester.

[@RyuSensei42]

Results so far: 1 Semi Final Slot Remains! Imperial 2-0 ADVANCES TO SEMI FINALS UCL 2-0 ADVANCES TO SEMI FINALS Manchester 2-1 ADVANCES TO SEMI FINALS Birkbeck 1-1 Trinity-Cambridge 1-1 Christ Church, Oxford 1-2 ELIMINATED Open 0-2 ELIMINATED Sheffield 0-2 ELIMINATED

[@sharanyaray2454]

I don't think I have seen so many negatives in one match. But this did make the match quite close and interesting. I obviously wanted Manchester to win because from their first match I predicted we would see them in the semis. So it would have been an upset otherwise.

[@guavaguy4397]

Such a great game. Was jumping in my seat at the end of this rollercoaster.

[@hugohillhill9240]

I think round 2 could be improved. There are 1 or 2 teams who should easily be at this stage of the competition ( eg Hertford)

[@zaks7]

Feels weird being the first one here. I'll be procrastinating on my finals and watching this anyway. Edit: What a close match!

[@anthony1947]

That guy Wotton might just about get in to our pub quiz team

[@dodiad]

Well played, both. Sorry to see either team go. Can I just say how great Amol Rajan has turned out to be. Always has something genuine to say to the teams at the end. So much more human than You-Know-Who.

[@darkmoney7762]

Is the You-Know-Who guy like so disgusting we can't say their name now? JK. Well, I think he was fine. I don't see that much difference between the host now and last time.

[@empedocles200]

I love the great Paxo but it is great to see a bit more pace to the quiz these days. Amol can dish them out a bit faster which adds to the drama of a Monday night.

[@JarlBrisingr]

We need the next episode please 😢

[@azraelsilverfang1010]

Thanks for the upload

[@GorgyCL]

Right on MrCosmic!

[@aliceharuna4]

8:15 Prefectures in Japan（pic. round） I'm a Japanese, T.H. The first picture round was quite in favor of me. Then I really wondered why they knew NAGASAKI but didn't know HIROSHIMA. Both two prefectures were historically famous as a land caught in atomic bomb. Anyway I'd been supposing prefectures in Japan would be asked in this series someday. That's been realized lol. There may be Japanese men except for me who's watching this. Are there any??

[@Oonggaboong]

Not a Japanese, but I live and work in Chiba :)

[@aliceharuna4]

Ohh! A neighbor of Tokyo! I graduated from Magdalen-Oxford, BA in Natural Sciences and MA in biochemistry, then I came back to Tokyo. Now I'm doing a PhD in molecular biology in UT (Univ. of Tokyo). I'd like to visit England again some time.

[@Oonggaboong]

@@aliceharuna4 Hongo Campus? I did my master at UTokyo btw. Good to know you Alice!

[@DesElmes]

Another fantastic match that demonstrates why UC needs its studio audience back. Even if it's just made up of seniors who enjoy the experience of watching a TV show being recorded more than they enjoy the actual match, and applaud politely at the gong, it would provide more atmosphere - and be far less repetitive and annoying - than canned applause. Some game shows *do* work without a studio audience - Only Connect has never had one, of course (and has never used canned applause either). But UC? Nah. Again, studio audiences can't be all *that* expensive, and WWTBAM has gotten *its* studio audience back with no obvious trouble...

[@michaelhockus8208]

I knew some of these this time ! thanks for sharing

[@lailedcat]

Maybe this is just me but this question was so easy! Also the Latin/greek hybrid word bonuses. Maybe it’s just me, I often get very few questions at this point in the competition 😅

[@keesvp]

Very happy they can just go back to 'reading'

[@ubiergo1978]

The usual "I shouted an answer" =P, in this episode: CÓRDOBA!! (But only because I'm Chilean so we're next door and I had a very fond friend of mine living there). =)

[@Oonggaboong]

Great match!

[@jamesallen4050]

That was more exciting than modern formula one, judging by my stress response.

[@Ramboost007]

Paint drying is more exciting that Formula 1 now.

[@jamesallen4050]

@@Ramboost007 Sadly true. Probably less expensive to get involved in, too!

[@YourQueerGreatAuntie]

Absolute nail-biter! Sorry to see CCO go, and well done to Manchester. Quality all round - well done guys!

[@avyukthramkumar9570]

its not in percy jackson so i dont know lmaoooo 6:09

[@Aztwecas]

Senehedheera's jacket game has been the true winner this series.

[@PetroicaRodinogaster264]

I cannot believe I knew the answer to the first question before they did.

[@alexandercampbell9178]

Poor Dean on the Propertius question!

[@jamesr141]

Some absolute fitties this year. You know who you are.

[@jayguerero47]

For me, Christ Church deserved to win this match for Wotton alone. :(

[@rogertayler8924]

Loosely related to Schopenhauer. He actually formulated Buddhism before he was aware of it's existence.

[@alexf7377]

Funny how they throw their hands up at the ballet music questions, as if anybody could know those! The younger generation's knowledge of opera, classical, jazz/blues and music in general is minimal. These teams were clearly weak on the arts. On the subject of Claude Lorrain, my favourite painter, his works are what every hiker dreams of encountering in the course of his travels, though most are works of his imagination. So glad I was neutral as the tensions for the partisans must have been unbearable!

[@eleidal]

What a match!

[@ArthurKuntsler]

Lemmy makes it on to UC. There is a God.

[@yogeshraut4928]

Trick question: Lemmy IS God!

[@skatefan9495]

How could they think the evil Biblical queen might be Esther?

[@helenswan705]

so sorry for the result, so close. See? No spoilers here.

[@adenwellsmith6908]

Close

[@profpartout6609]

Lemmy immortalised on UC! Nice touch

[@ArthurKuntsler]

Not enough buzzer-spanking from Dean.

[@adamprince2369]

I know that the question listed African American artists, but do Brits really not know about Jazz? feels like an important piece of music history but did it not make its way across the pond?

[@enlisty]

I was surprised about that too, but it might just be with the two teams today.

[@jeff__w]

I would surmise that, for US jazz/blues artists before, say, 1950, the students appearing on _University Challenge_ would know only the “big names,” e.g., Ella Fitzgerald (whom they said), Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Billie Holiday (although they missed her here), maybe “Fats” Waller, unless they specifically specialized in or studied that group. In other words, I’d say it’s a generational thing.

[@skatefan9495]

Also surprised they didn't know DeToqueville.

[@Starand321]

I got a feeling Trinity might lose next week.

[@empedocles200]

That would mean no Oxbridge colleges in the final four

[@enlisty]

Both captains did splendidly. It’s a pity the two ladies in Christ Church seemed to be off their game today. In contrast, all 4 players in Manchester pulled their weight. And that is what made the difference. I never understand why contestants waste time saying “I’ve seen that!”. Good for you but what value does that add to the discussion - apart from being an annoyance and distraction?

[@gooscarguitar]

god forbid any contestant attempt to enjoy themselves on this show

[@ellentronicmistress4969]

All your disdain seems to be aimed at the female contestants.

[@zaphbrox8239]

In addition to the "I've seen that"s, I find the sighs and groans, deflations, overall negative body language that brings down morale, and irrelevant personal experience statements really off-putting. I'd hate to be in a team with anyone that does that. The moment someone says "I've seen that" or "I know this" or anything to that effect, it prevents others from thinkning through. Combined with body language, it is a distraction.

[@s-6019]

Really? Dean got Negritude and De Chirico, Gorgianeh Lorenz...On the other hand, Bluma hatter got only Calvin.

[@enlisty]

@@s-6019 That’s a fair point, though I think Bluma got more than that (and Dean got the penalty deduction too). From what I remember, they were really good in the previous match but did not seem to be in good form this round. My guess is a case of nerves.

[@seadkolasinac7220]

I had 8 adverts for one show here

[@mjmcb1]

Again with the convoluted questions that nobody could parse in the time available and waste a lot of time. And these are the best of the best of the best, almost.

[@enlisty]

I thought it’s just me!

[@darkmoney7762]

Christ Church kinda reminds me of Durham University from last season. Two guys and two women and the guys are the carries of the team. But Christ Church was just less luckier because there are more all-rounder teams this season than the last.

[@sashapushkin1799]

Not to be pedantic, but at 7:15 the guy gives the answer ‘anechoic’ and Amol replies ‘echo chamber is correct.’ This is nonsense, since anechoic chambers are designed to eliminate echoes - I’m sure Paxo wouldn’t have made this mistake.

[@VoraciousGhost]

Listen again, Amol responds "anechoic chamber", which was the correct answer for Beranek's Box. No need to keep drudging up Paxman.

[@seadkolasinac7220]

CP, please stop putting in so many ads

[@paglamirparonoid5200]

Amol , it's not Hanza , it's Hanzi

[@dldbfl95]

No, you're mixing them up. Hanzi is different to HanJA. Hanzi is the Chinese writing system and a Chinese word. Hanja is the Korean word for their (old) way of using Chinese characters for words borrowed from Chinese in Korean pronunciation. I am Korean and Amol is correct.

[@jeff__w]

@@dldbfl95 Exactly, not that you needed any confirmation. And, in fact, _Hanja_ [ 한자] _is_ the Sino-Korean equivalent word to _hànzì_ (both written in Chinese characters as 漢字) but, as you said, they refer to different things.

[@emmaribena5529]

Manchester act like they're on a night out jolly, take far too much time messing around trying to guess an answer, imo. Really frustrating. The captain acts like it's all a big joke!

[@333cale]

God forbid they enjoy themselves!

[@courtenaywrites]

Exactly! There is too much faffing and messing around. This is supposed to be a tense quiz, not a jolly!

[@ralph124c41-]

The man’s name is Tocqueville. To say “de tocqueville” is to demonstrate one’s ignorance. Would Jeremy have allowed this? I don’t think so.

[@gooscarguitar]

Paxman once accepted "superium" for a question where the answer was "supremum". Also the man's name isn't Tocqueville, he's the comte de Tocqueville.

[@ralph124c41-]

@@gooscarguitar The “de” is not part of the Alexis Charles Henri Clérel, comte de Tocqueville's last name. This is why when you go to the library you find his works under "Tocqueville, Alexis de" and this is also why he is referred to by knowledgeable individuals as “Tocqueville.” Don’t bother with sophistry like ‘his name is the "Comte de Tocqueville” because I doubt your knowledge here trumps my Ph.D. in Library Science and Bibliography. Isn’t it enough that two teams of supposedly well education university students and a moderator reading off cue-cards can’t say the name of one of the most important commentators on American democracy? Do you have to join the crowd?

[@gooscarguitar]

​@@ralph124c41- Could they possibly be referring to anybody else? The answer they gave was part of his full name and title, and included the essential part of "Tocqueville". It would have been completely ludicrous not to give them the points. One wouldn't find Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie listed under the letter N, or Edgar Allan Poe listed under A, but it would not be incorrect to answer "Ngozi Adichie" or "Allan Poe" if asked about them.

[@ralph124c41-]

No, they could not be talking about anyone else. Libraries have rules abut these things. These are stored in what are called “name authoritiies.” Cf: authorities.loc.gov/ by way of example. Name authorities tells you that despite the fact that Beethoven’s name was Ludwig van Beethoven, the “van” was honorific and is not used in cataloging. Look for Ludwig van Beethoven on the shelf under “Beethoven.” Alexis de Tocqueville’s last name is Tocqueville. Look for his works under “Tocqueville” and for god’s sake don’t make a fool of your self by referring to him as “de Tocqueville.”

[@ralph124c41-]

Boy you are hellbent on looking illiterate. The term “De Tocqueville” is inappropriate in all circumstances. It’s not just ludicrous to give them points it’s the bloody wrong answer. Using this phrase is inappropriate writing at any level especially at the university. But don’t believe me. If you do take a U-level course, trying using it in a paper. At this point I can see you’re either having me on or just proud of your ignorance. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, will in fact be found at your library, at your bookstore, as “Ngozi, Chimamanda Adichie” because, my dear, “Ngozi” isn’t the middle name as you seem to believe, but the last name of her father and “Adichie” the last name of her mother. The way they do in the Spanish world. Don’t believe me because the sign on my desk says “Reference Librarian”. You like look it all up here:"Anglo-American Rules of Cataloging, Revised.” Next, pleaase.

[@rogertayler8924]

He wouldn't know what a hard question is, so why the congratulations? He's bias.

[@nickychimes4719]

Is Dean moral support? Humorous comment officer, perhaps?

[@BlueSoulTiger]

Way too harsh

[@ianriddell1307]

I think she actually put off the captain a few times. She seemed to say random stuff totally unrelated to the answer just to show that she knew something.

[@nickychimes4719]

@@BlueSoulTiger says Dean's sister...

[@SuperHans64]

Not a fan of the Manchester captain.

[@Mikedr55]

Sinh is pronounced 'sine' not 'shine'. Dear me.

[@dldbfl95]

No, actually you're wrong... "sin" is pronounced "sine" and "sinh" is pronounced "shine" (or "sinch"). I have a Maths degree and this is also what I was taught at school...

[@mjmcb1]

Dear you indeed. But not actually true.

[@whateverkatana]

That would be nonsensical -- how would you distinguish it from the regular sin then? I've heard it a "shin" and "shine", but never as "sine". I'm impressed by your confidence though.

[@333cale]

Arrogantly wrong, the worst kind.

[@importedmusic]

LOVE all the black woke questions.

[@vishvice12]

Lmao black feminist 🤣🤣