Unlocking MONEYBALL in Football Manager: Finding Undervalued Talent with FMDataLab

[@milobedini4917]

Love what you do firstly! My only comment is that in both you and Squirrel's FM role stuff, it is then often combined with an OP tactic which makes it quite hard to get behind (not the tool, but the explanation, as it is hard to disentangle the two impacts). Don't get me wrong I have used many way too powerful tactics this year with max intensity and it made me quit the game for quite some time due to no challenge remaining so beware of these short term wins! However, the tool and presentation is fantastic so well done! I hide all attributes manually and use your Moneyball tool, followed by scouting individual players from them (no recruitment focusses etc) as my way - obviously not saying it's the best way but I love it for someone who finds Fm quite easy playing in the standard ways 🤠

[@liamreynolds1247]

Loved the video. I'm starting a document stating what metrics to look for based off what you want the player to do (similar to your explaination in the video) - would love something similar on the site for each role in the game if that was possible. more than willing to help with that of course.

[@FMDataLab]

I hope this video has provided clarity on utilising the MONEYBALL approach within Football Manager using FMDataLab. While FMDataLab equips you with the tools to implement MONEYBALL, this video offers a foundational guide on how to integrate the methodology into your save. As mentioned in the video, for those seeking a more comprehensive understanding of mastering MONEYBALL, I highly recommend checking out the "Moneyball Clinic" series by MustermannFM: kzbin.info/aero/PLc06oFnS5v5IJSQIxNTJNWHIhWpRkf_0H. Please keep in mind that the example presented in this video is intentionally straightforward. You could certainly delve much deeper, meticulously analysing each potential player to uncover the most undervalued talents. I, on the other hand, took a more cursory glance at a handful of players, opting for a selection that was successful but perhaps not the absolute cream of the crop. Consider this more of a blueprint for you to expand upon, rather than a definitive guide-though it did achieve surprising success, more time invested could undoubtedly have led to even greater results. Stay tuned for upcoming updates currently in development., including: - Adding your own custom computed statistics. - View percentiles for each position. See how well a player performs in comparison to their peers in the same position, rather than all positions. - New Moneyball Statistics. At the moment it's just over performance metrics per 90 minutes at the moment. - Updating the Top 5 Stats in player panel to be Top 10 Stats instead. - Adding new datapoints to comparison chart. (Top 5% from players in uploaded file & Top 5% from players in Top 5 Leagues dataset) - Goalkeeping Computed/Actions Stats being exclusive to Goalkeepers. If you have any suggestions or thoughts, feel free to drop them in the comments below. Thanks 🙂

[@RocknRolla_official]

This is really great. Luv all off this.

[@milobedini4917]

On another note - I definitely find sorting by league ore-export (which sorts by league reputation) and then going through the data with a mental note that any good (for me, percentile) stats should be seen as very srong indicators of a decent player given the competition. For me, sorting the columsn itself can lead you to loving a player in the Uruguayan second division 😂

[@Jensito22]

i would love a tutorial on how to get the data in a spreadsheet. especially the info at 9:00 is so helpful

[@FMDataLab]

I've just added that functionality to the website with the new Best XI Tools. You can checkout my new video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qarHkJuKh65mfqssi=tnc7FIPTMpBCP5Pu And the tools here: www.fmdatalab.com/best-11

[@shyguy1051]

These are yhe kinds of FM videos i live for. Nerdy Stats stuff. 🔥👌🏿

[@steveotoole200]

Great content

[@otterinari2390]

Hey man, this tool actually made me come back to the game. But one thing is, i did everything you did for role scores, but my scores are in red. For eg, the max score i get is 1.21 for a dm and .44 for an inside forward. No matter how many times i print the squad or player search with the appropriate filter or views, i get it everytime

[@FMDataLab]

Hey, glad to hear that FMDataLab has pulled you back into FM, but sorry to hear about the issues you're having with the Role Scores Tool. - Do you have attribute masking enabled? If so, that may be the reason as the players in your exported HTML file from FM may only have a number of attribute values, where the rest may be just displayed as `-`. - Does your exported HTML file have all the correct attribute values for each player? (If you do have attribute masking enabled, you may see some attribute values as `-`.) - Do you get any error windows on FMDataLab, or any x or warning icons on the table?

[@otterinari2390]

@@FMDataLab Wow thanks for the reply man. No I was using mustermann skin and so the attributes didn't get displayed. So I changed to default and it worked. I took York City from vanarama to the championship with just a million spent using your tool 🤙

[@FMDataLab]

@otterinari2390 Ahh, that would make sense. Glad you got sorted and thanks for letting me know the solution, much appreciated! Love to hear a success story using FMDataLab! Keep up the good work and hope FMDataLab can continue to help with your success!

[@tabletbrothers3477]

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[@FalseNine.9]

Hi mate great work. Any recommendations for MoneyBall save ideas? Second tier teams and no UK. I wanna have my last FM24 save.Thanks

[@bredrin4146]

what I'm doing with your tool( btw thank you very much), is finding young players who are cheap and performing well, I'm talking from 17-19 years old, buying them, loaning them out, then selling them after a couple of seasons for profit, kinda red bull leipzig, let's see how it goes, thank you again

[@KruJannik]

Can you share the Excel script to help me do my own research and go into detail when starting a new season?

[@FMDataLab]

Hey, The functionality you've seen is powered by a series of Google Apps Scripts, specifically written in GoogleScript, which are currently tied to my Google Account rather than being embedded within the sheet itself. Unfortunately, this makes them a bit tricky to share directly. Additionally, these scripts are tailored to work with a very specific export format from FMDataLab, focusing on certain roles, so they aren’t dynamic and might not adapt well to other data structures. That said, I’m planning to incorporate this very feature into FMDataLab in the near future, making it more accessible and user-friendly for everyone. Stay tuned!

[@steve10]

Ive got lots of missing columns that arent in my FM2024 stuff like tackles completed/90 just arent in the stats section ??? open play crosses completed , where is that ?? i cant even add them as i cant find them ??

[@FMDataLab]

First, I'd go through all of the steps listed here > www.fmdatalab.com/tutorials/moneyball#I_am_getting_an_error,_how_can_I_resolve If you are still having issues, then your best course of action is to ensure you are using the English Language and default skin, then clear your cache, then revert to the default view for that screen and manually add the necessary columns. Below, you will find a list of all the columns utilised in the Moneyball tool: Unique ID Name (Detailed) Position Age Height Weight Player Status Information (General) Club Division Nationality Second Nationality Home-Grown Status Personality Media Handling Style Wage Transfer Value Asking Price (Transfer) Preferred Foot All Stats (General) columns excluding: "All Time Career Appearances" "All Time Career Goals" "All Time League Appearances" "All Time League Goals" "Clean Sheets per 90 minutes" "Game Win Ratio" "Games Drawn" "Games Lost" "Games Missed In A Row" "Games Won" "International Appearances (Season)" "International Assists" "International Average Rating" "International Goals Conceded" "Last 5 First-Team Games" "Last 5 Games" "Minutes per game" "Minutes Since Last Conceded" "Minutes Since Last Goals" "Non Penalty Expected Goals" "Non Penalty Expected Goals per 90 minutes" "Points Won Per Game" "Team Goals" "Team Goals Conceded" "Team Goals Conceded per 90 minutes" "Team Goals per 90 minutes" "Team Saves per 90 minutes" All Stats (Chalkboard) columns excluding: "Expected Goals per Shot" "Free Kick Shots" If the stats you mentioned that you can't locate are still missing, I do have a new zip file that will be part of the next update that contains an "Alternative Views" directory that has alternative moneyball views that another user who had similar issues created to resolve their issue that might work for you. www.mediafire.com/file/jej6s18rl8c71fv/FMDataLab_Moneyball_Views_.zip/file Other than that, I am unsure.

[@freeburn9]

How do you make the chart bigger? When i do an upload the graph is much smaller compared to yours and only shows 9 players while yours is like 16

[@FMDataLab]

@@freeburn9 Which chart are you referring to? It may just be that recorded on a larger resolution monitor and zoomed out in my browser?

[@freeburn9]

@@FMDataLab thats probably it. zoomed out more. Thanks for clarifying

[@mikaellansheimandersson3781]

great tool , but got an error message when trying to upload my squad file , that there missing plenty of columns like attributes colums, plz really need help quick

[@FMDataLab]

If the issue is with the Moneyball tool, then follow the steps outlined in the "I am getting an error, how can I resolve?" section of the Moneyball tutorial www.fmdatalab.com/tutorials/moneyball#I_am_getting_an_error,_how_can_I_resolve If it's for the Role Scoring tool, ensure you are exporting your player list using the role scoring view (i.e. fmdatalab_player_search_view), not the new moneyball views (i.e. fmdatalab_moneyball_player_search_view) If you are still having issues, please attach your html file, whether you are using the Moneyball/Role Scoring tool and any relevant screeshots from FM/FMDatalab to [e-mail]

[@mabozar15]

Good video again, though admittedly, some of this is new, and the videos are lkng with you talking about 95% of the time, so a lot of pausing and going back to understand. Maybe that gets more viewing? 😂. Its perhaps a split opinion between you and squirrel, but I get the sense that his weightings are working better as my signings so far on your tool haven't perhaps worked so well for me. I could be imagining that though.

[@liamreynolds1247]

How do you get to the role scoring bit? I cant find it on the website

[@FMDataLab]

@@liamreynolds1247 www.fmdatalab.com/upload You can click on the "Upload" button in the top right of the navigation.

[@Nightslxy31]

How do I get the trajectory’s and role ratings to appear?

[@FMDataLab]

@Nightslxy31 It's part of the Role Scoring Tool www.fmdatalab.com/upload Clicking on a player's name opens up the player panel that includes the role score trajectories. More details in the following video kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWawg3afmaqSg7Msi=AranYkGtkvIYKWvX My first video also goes into detail about the role scoring tool if you haven’t used it before, including downloading views, importing views and exporting data, as it's separate from the Moneyball tool because they use different views with different columns. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5ebp4aaZ6iCrJYsi=qH9PyXP8jUjscPPh There are also tutorials on the site that may cover any queries. www.fmdatalab.com/tutorials

[@Nightslxy31]

@@FMDataLab when I do moneyball upload it works fine but when I go on my files and upload & save it comes up with an error. I’m using all the required stuff (I think) so idk why.

[@FMDataLab]

@Nightslxy31 Drop me an email at [e-mail], attach your html file you are using that gives you an error and any relevant screenshots from FM and FMDataLab to see if I can debug the issue.

[@e_xtazzy]

This is cheating😂 but awesome work in the community