Unlocking the Secrets of Mesopotamian Magic with Dr. Irving Finkel

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[Mouna Mounayer]

Prof Finkel is a genius when it comes to explaining Mesopotamian culture. Thank you for this wonderful lecture.

[jaxtraw]

I've always got time for some Finkel!

[zarroth]

if you assume he's correct in what he's talking about. This is almost entirely opinion, not fact, like most archeology is. Those guys keep telling us we couldn't build the pyramids today for example...we very well could, we just can not justify the expense of doing it which is very different from not being able to do it...and that's just one example of hundreds when it comes to this field.

[Bretton Ferguson]

FUN FACT: Dr. Irving Finkle was born and grew up in Uruk. Over 6000 years ago. This is why they keep him in the British Museum.

[jaxtraw]

@Bretton Ferguson I'd suspected something like that was the case!

[Atrak]

I'm sad that I missed the live lecture but thankyou so much for putting it up on KZbin. Professor Finkel is always an absolute pleasure to listen too. Thanks Professor!

[Archaeology Now]

log on to our website for all the dates for his upcoming pieces. Here's the link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures

[Archaeology Now]

Dr. Finkel's next KZbin live event is Sunday June 11 at 3pm CST! Looking forward to seeing you there!

[Cameron Ford]

Dr. Finkel is my favourite wizard

[The Rub]

Irving the white

[moxiebombshell]

Perfection

[Alan Animus]

I have no idea who he is but yes.

[ladyflimflam]

So say we all

[Eno Media]

Greetings, Sumer is in west Africa and the sumer culture spread out of Africa to the rest of the world. The anunnaki landed in niger delta of modern day nigeria. With all due respect all protocol observe your predecessors have left pies of lies and you and others like you keep and telling this lies and wrong history to people. That will not be allowed to stand anymore, not when we are still alive. I want to debate you openly to the world to prove that Sumerains are still alive we are just called something else now.

[Miguel de Luis]

Finkel is a powerful magician able to dispel the demons ignorance with a beautiful voice.

[Rigep Froggit]

he exorcizes the demon of idiocy with great force and determination.

[No this is patrick]

He’s the type of wizard who doesn’t even need to use spells and incantations, just persuassion alone is enough.

[Miguel de Luis]

@No this is patrick Our minds and souls are enlighten at his mere presence

[Fabio de Oliveira Ribeiro]

The real magic is turning such specific and erudite knowledge into raw material for an accessible and interesting video capable of capturing the attention of people around the world. Professor Finkel is the master wizard of pedagogy. A true Indiana Jones of ancient and modern words.

[Malaika Millions]

So beautifully said. One 🎟️ ticket to dinner & conversation for you sir.

[Rahere]

He's not been close to the SAS. I have. My subject's the birth of the Renaissance.

[das]

We can extrapolate further, still and say, ultimately, the "magic" with the utmost fidelity to the word, is, in fact, the technology ,which is definitely supernatural and just last millennium would have seemed otherworldly. Not to minimize Finkel or his awe inspiring lucubrations

[Malaika Millions]

@das have you read Tish & Pish (How to be of speakingness like Stephen Fry) by Stewart Ferris ? - thy words have stronger aroma than thy breath 😘

[das]

@Malaika Millions Is that a laudation or deprecation ?

[Erikk Savage]

Always love Finkel's lectures. Like a lovely raspberry truffle for the brain.

[Sergpie]

With a raspberry liqueur filling, obvs

[Cosmicpoop]

😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉

[Christopher Garza]

I see a lot of people are familiar with his work. Would you know where to find the largest compilation of his lectures?

[чуля]

​@Christopher Garzai'd like to know as well

[Sooty S]

Delicious

[Jorge Quinones - Mesoamerica]

I’m so glad scholars are talking about such an essential part of our ancestors culture, magic. I try to do my part by trying to explain Mesoamerican magic. Thank you.

[Del Vede]

We should understand the mouth expelling and also all the ears listening but not with bended knees like our ancestors and their smiling helplesness with trembling fingers and eyes shut. .. Remembering the old woman Rigelceva babica, die Rigelc Oma: URAH JE DEVET, URAH NI DEVET... im Dorf des Banus, Banja Vas an der Roemerstrasze zur Draufaehre an der Mündung der Bela hinunter....

[Mise Wixe]

It's a true privilege to be able to listen to him and to take part of his exceptional knowledge.

[thormusique]

Brilliant as always, Prof Finkel! Your lectures are always not only fascinating but also wildly entertaining. Cheers!

[vexo benovex]

Thank you, Dr. Finkel I appreciate the efforts you put fourth to educate us heathens.

[LeCharles07]

Dr. Finkel has a wonderfully dramatic lighting setup for this topic; he must be protected at all costs as a global treasure.

[Erica Lewis]

I love hearing his story telling using these facts. If only all teachers were like this.

[Maseef Mandic]

I absolutely love listening to this man. If my tutors were as enthusiastic has he is I'd never would have wagged school.

[Brian Hougaard Baldersbæk]

Thank you Professor Finkel for enlighten me immensely on ancient Mesopotamia.

[Michael Moceri]

I suspect that a lot of modern people would recognize the image of the mass produced protective figurines as being angelic in outline, and it makes me wonder at any cultural connections between these and concepts like the Hellenistic guardian daimon and the later guardian angel. I think it would be absolutely fascinating to trace these lines of cultural influence and see what people have done with the idea over time.

[Peter St.]

Fantastic lectures from our beloved Dr. Finkel.

[BaalFridge]

Irving Finkel is one of those people who can't be replaced and whose contribution to their field of research will outlive them.

[LeelaM]

I damn need Dr. Finkle to do a series on Gilgamesh and all its ties to Mesopotamian history

[Archaeology Now]

Now THAT is an amazing idea! We're putting it into the hopper!

[Erg Budster]

A most interesting lecture and as always Dr Finkel is a marvelous speaker.

[Direbear Coat]

This was fantastically educational AND entertaining. Some guys will put you to sleep with their droning, but Professor Finkel is fantastically engaging! I'm guessing if you listen to enough of his lectures about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization, that it would be possible to create a work of fiction based on the ancient culture, tradition, and their writings. It would be interesting to see what life and culture was like, brought to life on screen.

[Bottle Sparks]

I loved the lecture, Dr. Finkel!

[Holly]

Fascinating as always. Your lecture sparked a memory for me. I was about eighteen when "The Exorcist" premiered. I read William Peter Blatty's book once I managed to find the courage to crawl from under my bed. In the book, the demon, "Blatty derived the character from Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, where the mythic Pazuzu was considered the king of the demons of the wind, and the son of the god Hanbi." I remember clearly thinking why would a being so powerful fear a couple of Catholic Priests?? It didn't make any sense. I'm sixty-seven today and it still doesn't make sense. But it did make everyone a ton of money and scared the poo out of an entire generation 8-) Something I'm sure good old Pazuzu would take pride in. I get it now. Father Merrin skipped too many Akkadian language classes! 8-D

[Beverly]

If everyone had Dr. Finkel as a teacher we would all wiser for it.

[ChrisC]

I missed the live, so now I have to turn on alerts for this channel. I never want to miss another Irving Finkel lecture.

[Sarah Rosen]

I have alerts on and still didn't get one. :-(

[Damara Carpenter]

you have to book through eventbright. You get a link in your email :)

[Sarah Rosen]

@Damara Carpenter but how do we get notifications that there is an event so we can go to Eventbrite to register?

[Archaeology Now]

@Sarah Rosen OH NO!!! Ok - here's the best way to keep up to date: log on to our website and you will find the dates for all of his upcoming events. Here's the link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures

[Archaeology Now]

@Sarah Rosen here's the website link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures This is THE best way to keep up-to-date. Another option is checking out the "Community" section of the KZbin channel. We post links there as well.

[Tania Denyer]

the first history lesson that entranced me in grade school was on the Sumerians and Mesopotamia - love this presentation, thank you from canada 🍁

[Linda Sue]

Me, too...and also in Canada!😀👋

[Bildgesmythe]

Dr. Finkel is a legend!

[Lindsay Heyes]

Dr Finkel, thank you for wonderful overview. I hope that you will cover Babylonian Prayer/Demon Bowls/Traps, which had an exorcistic incantation inside and were buried upside-down under doorways and the quoins of houses. It appears that they needed renewal, but it was risky to remove them, so sometimes they ended up stacked together.

[Wade Evans]

Great information. I am a major fan history and love to learn, but definitely no scholar. To me it’s fascinating to think of the beliefs and experiences of these people to lead to to such an interesting view of the supernatural.

[liliths garden]

This is brilliant . A great lecture thank you

[Mystic's Magazine: An Archive of Mystical Media]

Could you please add an academic citation for the fact that there was a shift from blaming (human) witches for illness to blaming demons, devils, and ghosts? I'd like to look at this a bit more. Thank you for the interesting video.

[Archaeology Now]

We will see if we can obtain

[Cleo f]

I love listening and learning from Dr. Irving Finkel. If i see an upload with him, i must watch. Thankyou Dr. Irving Finkel for sharing your knowlage.

[Mr. Alien Transition]

Irvin Finkel is a Rockstar! He is the most important historian today.

[Spencer Champion]

Such an amazing scholar and communicator.

[Michelle Franklin]

Yes, Dr Finkel! Sad I missed the Live. Watching now! He's the best!

[Archaeology Now]

To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.

[chompachangas]

Prof Finkel is a world treasure.

[Roxie Poe]

When he explains, I actually understand.

[Giffica]

Irving Finkel is my favorite. He has such a passion.

[Jlo Hobbo]

Thanks for the lesson in ancient rune magic, Professor Dumbledore.

[AncapFTW]

Best "history of magic" teacher I've seen.

[Acetyl]

Very interesting. Lamashtu resembles some conceptions of Lilith, though the latter seems to have gradually "diffused" and became more an aspect of the psyche (in the Kabbalistic or Hermetic sense) than an archetype or force of nature. At the core of it, Lilith is a "demon" that "steals" neglected children. So from the first wife of Adam, modern day some traditions even cast Lilith as a primordial "first mother" to all things. With "Eve" then either being Earth (material world) or society (similar to Enkidu). Others say Lilith represents a being that "has been made unconscious, and is struggling to become conscious again". Regardless, you can still see Lamashtu at the core. Putting a lot of pieces together, glad to have found this channel. Fascinating.

[T W]

I love this man.

[Into Sound]

ive missed your videos an awful lot. i still think you need to challenge more people to a game of ur. and any one i share your ark video with doesn't want to converse with me any longer.😅 i hope you keep going for as long as you can sir, thank you professor irving.

[Chris Puglise]

The world quite needs more men with minds like his.

[Malaika Millions]

Equally as divine as Dr Finkel & his presentation subject matter, is the reverent & intriguing community found here in the comments section of this video. Would that I could listen & engage with you all in person. I adore finding beautiful minds, melting in appreciation.

[Doctor Quid]

Making ancient history sexy and intriguing as always. Be thankful for people who breathe life into such topics. It takes effort to compile and humanize lectures on these topics. Make them palatable to you and I. People like this make organic chemistry, electrical engineering, and mathematics, again sexy. Wax poetic about these people. Share them with people who do/don't deserve them. You never know who could be touched.

[Cynthia Pate]

Dr Finkel reminds me of Gandalf. I love the way he makes his lectures so entertaining.

[Iohannes Lindensis]

Fascinating and riveting. Brilliantly presented.

[Lightwing47]

Professor Irving the White! :) Nice to have another lecture :) I wonder if it would be possible to hear about lilitu some day, and whether or not lilitu underwent a change after the change of the focus from early to later period. :)

[RainbowDancer]

👍👍Great work Dr Finkel: a true scholar... just as George Smith, (1840-1876) British Museum Assyriologist, pieced together cuneiform script from clay tablets in the BM archive with 'The Flood Story' and the Epic of Gilgamesh, Dr Finkel reveals everyday life of the Ancients in spell-binding style. Watch Alert: Dr Finkel 'blows away Herodotus' in next lecture... ✳✳

[Kernow maid]

Thankyou, amazing lecture ❤️

[Sippar_Arch]

great information shared by dr.finkel , thank you so much.

[Martha Villegas]

Thank you Dr Finkel, you are a guardian angel.

[Joel Nieminen]

First of three new lectures? We are truly blessed

[Archaeology Now]

To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.

[Lee Kestner]

I would like to address the "goat like" figure. The tail is longish and down pointing. Goats carry their tales perpendicular to their spines. Sheep's tails hang down. Zackel sheep had horns like that in the twisted V formation. Few Zackel derived breeds still exist but the Racka sheep from Hungary do and have these impressive horns. Not sure if this will cause any eureka moment. Just thought it might be important if this was a sheep or a goat since they traditionally represent different ideas in the Middle East region.

[sk doremi]

Dr Finkel is so entertaining and captivating!! I suppose it's an old semitic language ,shemesh is easy to understand for me,it's the sun and maqlu also cause we say maqla and it's not burning but more like boiling which is surprisingly quite close!!in many societies we still use amulets, we still believe in bad "spirit", jins,ghost,ghoul.....I wonder why those creatures have wings!! In the bible or Quraan,they r angels which probably stayed in people mi ds for centuries. Verry interesting 🙂

[MrBlazingup420]

I've always been at odds to why they would hang an evil object around their neck, or hang it in their home, looking at the Lamashtu, could it have something to do with what the woman experiences during child birth, or the days leading up to it. @30:40 7 months at the top, plus 3 weeks, below and on the right, made from a pinch of clay by Enki, his number is 40, which adds to 9 months. The first 40 days is known as the embryonic stage, when you start out as a 3 layer pinch, with a spike in the center, the notochord, with the claw of the eagle, it holds on to the womb, being hot, just out of the Blastula period, the top layer rises above the notochord, Pinching off a piece, that rolls up into a worm, following the notochord down to the other two, becoming the nerves, the top layer it came from, becomes the skin. Is the womb of the woman, above her Donkey, her buttocks, you receive your first scare, from being cut from the placenta, the Spears to the belly, the coming baby, the Swine is Damu "The Child", the Dog a symbol of Gula, the mother of Damu, the son of Pabilsag, we call Sagittarius, Half Man Half Donkey. Sagittarius is known as your hips & thighs, the holder of your buttocks, your donkey, something everybody rides into this world on, your mothers donkey. Scorpio is associated with the sexual organ, Ophiuchus is the womb of the Heavenly Goddess, this is the location of the Golden Gate of the Gods, where the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy enters the Milky Way Galaxy, and the eye of the Milky Way, the 7 Sisters, the sign Taurus, the Silver Gate of Man. The Swine star is associated with Delphinus the Dolphin, associated with the womb, and the 9 stars, the 9 months, with the 9 muses, the Dog Star Sirius, known as Canicula, 40 days long, and when they did the Maqlu, was seen as the Flaming Arrow of Pabilsag, Canicula means "Puppy Dog", the Goddess Gula was was the Harp Star, her Mighty Dog, was Hercules. Lamashtu sits in the shape of Hercules, next to Ophiuchus, the Serpent Holder. At the Foot of the Great One, we find the Fish Headed Gods, Dagon, the Mouth of the Southern Fish, Fomalhaut b, the fish that ate the 14th part of Osiris, the Great One is Aquarius, holding urns of water, the Sweating and Trembling, the Purification of the mothers body before the baby comes. Virgo is known as the Belly Button, and at her foot is the star Khambalia, meaning "Crooked-clawed". Place the Sun in Ophiuchus, 9 moths later the Sun is in Leo, but you're in the month of September, a Virgo. Sirius was known as the mother of Venus, and Orion the Father, Venus was known as Sopdu or Septu, his wife was Chensit/Khensit, which means "Placenta", Sopdu like Damu, were Dying and Rising Gods, associated with Healing. I'll end it here, if you like, you can call me by one of my 6 + 1 names, which seems to align with the symbols of Lamashtu, Weylyn Wyn Lewallyn Roger "I" Cupps McCullough, remember "Culo" means your Donkey, but its the other word they use. Hee-Haw Hee-Haw, is that not funny. Oh how I wish I could study under Dr. Finkel, I wish I could give him two thumbs up, it took it away, So I gave him 3 Thumbs Up, I had to put it back up there, LOL.420

[Georges Segundo]

Impressive knowledge brother.

[Holly]

In general, I think if a woman faced childbirth without modern medicine, she might hang on to just about anything for protection and good luck. For a woman, childbirth could mean death for mom or both.

[D'Angela Marx]

When He leans in and whispers like it’s a secret just between us….. I feel so special.

[Joni Gomez]

At 12:37, you had just finished describing the statue on the screen. Respectfully Sir, I believe that figure is a Dogman NOT a lion figure. The “mane” is the striped head dress that many Egyptians are shown with. I also tend to believe that the striped head dress is a symbol of a important positions or possibly a sign that they had been initiated into the mystery schools. You did happen to describe them as from the land of the dead, do you see the connection between that and Anubis? The god of the underworld? If the Annunaki created them (using their own dna or if they were known to live underground) then they WOULD be semi gods, especially if they had jobs of importance. I believe that the headdress had broken off just like his hand and whatever he was holding. My opinion is that he was holding a bag and that is why his one hand look down at his side and his fingers are curled just as if he were holding something like that. The other hand was most likely held up to show the “pine cone” that I tend to believe was an instrument to amplify sound. There is an ancient Chinese document that describes the ancient gods using hand held cones that controlled sound. I will try and find out what that document is and come back to this comment if I can to post my findings. I would love to know what you or your viewers think!!! Thank you

[Archaeology Now]

Interesting ideas.

[Irish Guy]

Great lecture Dr. Finkel. 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽

[Spencer McGeehan]

3 new lectures from Dr. Finkel! Hurrah!

[Archaeology Now]

To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.

[Omar Jano]

Discovered this video after a night out at the bar. Glad I did. Thank you! Very powerful visual material for my music work.

[Archaeology Now]

Well...spend a little more time on our channel! The weather is great!

[Aimee Morgado]

What a treat to discover this !

[Rock Reynolds]

Very interesting. Thumbs up. My major concern would be whether or not a “Good Demon” is just playing the “Good Demon/Bad Demon” Game. Personally, I have experienced challenges, from what I call “False Friends”.

[Kelly Harbeson]

I wonder how ritually clean I could get myself before I faced one

[Din Djarum]

Wait, you mean like a person? People do that every day. We abide by the letter of the law... Until we find ourselves late for work... Then we break the law. There are no good or bad anythings. There's just stuff making choices with sociological consequences.

[sunwarz]

My little brother used to write pages and pages of this wiered writing on full page binder paper, didnt matter if it had lines on it or not, with these triangles and lines when he was around three and 4 years old! my mom thought it was so strange ! he wrote it so tiny and in the most perfect strait lines she thought for his age? She showed it to many people, she even felt compelled to kept it around for years in her bottom dresser drawer! She has since passed on and my little brother dosent even remember anything about them? I wish I knew what happened to them

[SKOL]

At 16 I did my GCSE Textiles project on the art of ancient Mesopotamia. NO idea why, or where that idea came from.

[Shelly Harry]

absolutely fascinating!

[Green11]

Listened to his Presentation “LIVE” earlier today and now Again ! Yes, It just so happens that I’m a Fan ❗️

[ChristophersMum]

What a wonderful video...I think that he uses sorcery to make these tablets come alive‼

[SIMON CONSTABLE]

Something I knew nothing about! Wonderful!

[Donald Wilson]

very interesting and super enjoyable.

[Sarah]

Archeology professors in New Mexico are actually prone to wear hats like that when visiting a dig. I never figured out if it was intentional or coincidence though.

[Sarah Watts]

I second the idea that The Exorcist is "most upsetting" and not worth watching. Another great lecture!

[LeCharles07]

I would pay actual money to see Dr. Finkel in an Indiana Jones hat. Not even joking, send me the bill.

[John Mcgowan]

Im a sleight of hand magician... this lecture is invaluable!! Thank you Irving, from the bottom of my deal...

[4EVERSEEKING WISDOM]

My favorite Assyriologist... For the record magick is a very very real thing. It only appears as nonsense to someone who has no understanding of exactly what you're doing but when properly understood makes absolute sense

[Cholula Hot Sauce]

Thanks Dr Finkel!

[Jared]

Dr. Finkle, please tell me you've tried applying the triple archipoo incantation before at least once. I hope you're casting spells with regularity. Please let me know if there's anything in your library you'd be willing to apply to cure me of my chronic procrastination

[End0 Skeleton]

Odin? haha, I've always liked Dr. Irving Finkel, he truly loves his work.

[claraallen12]

a leap to accepting the written word as a powerful talisman

[chiron14pl]

I am greatly comforted to now know that Pazuzu is on our side

[Dirk Friedrichsen]

It's so great to learn from Gandalf.

[Matthew Nienkirchen]

Very interesting. Mesopotamia was mighty and truly a blessing on mankind. If you do not believe me just look at pictures of the Gates of Ishtar or depictions of the hanging gardens (which was a love letter from the king to his wife, lucky gal its a seven wonder!) People always hear about that small-time chump, King David, they like to call him the warrior poet king because that is what Mesopotamia called one of their greatest kings. The Mesopotamian kings were both better warriors and better poets, you cannot fake some things no matter how many "experts" are bribed. Look at the map. I wish we had great rulers like Caesar or Nebuchadnezzar instead of this lot that trains the people to be lesser instead of greater. Most modern takes on Mesopotamia are flat out lies, its nice we can talk about things that are less controversial like an academic's take on magic. Even if it has nothing that is real, a modern scholars talk about magic would still have less lies then Mesopotamian politics.

[Alex Hudspeth]

This reminds me of a collection of Sumerian incantations, collected in a certain Necronomicon...

[Ron Aaron]

Thanks! Dr. Irving 😎👍🏻

[star dust]

in Persian, MIAN = MESO & ROODAN=POTAMIAN. MIANROODAN = BETWEEN THE TWO RIVERS. in Arabic BAINONNAHRAIN= between the two rivers.

[The Danish GSM Channel Henrik Buitenhuis]

Thanks so much for the video and info

[Kingsford Gray]

Very good! (A correction, if I may: Buckingham Palace Guards do not wear Busbies, but Bearskins.)

[MrBlazingup420]

Great show, to bad its not a 24 hr live stream, can't wait for part 2. One question, is the image @13:00 Are those Donkey ears on that lion headed demon, maybe a reference to the god of Chaos Seth, or someone like him.

[ikustudies]

Wow great work doctor

[Randall Cotner]

In the time I've been following the Sumerian videos by many people, I thought we'd established something very clearly. This is that magic is merely advanced technology. How is it that in 2023, and all the records from the Sumerians describing the technologies they wrote about, could anyone still thing magic is a real thing? Showing an iPhone or iPad to ancient Sumerians would look like magic as well. How would we still believe that magic was not simply advanced tech?

[ThinkBigorsmall]

Irving knows . The Magic is Not gone, but Hidden

[Ansfrida Eyowulfsdottir]

There's just never enough Finkel on the internet. {:o:O:}

[cat brain]

thank you for this info. I wonder if these spells have been collected in a English translation that can be purchased?

[Archaeology Now]

Hmmmm...don't know. Will ask. Interesting thought!

[Din Djarum]

Would make a nice bit of merchandise... Just something simple and innocuous. Nothing obscene.

[JelloFluoride]

Why is it that Mesopotamians still had better handwriting than I do?

[Jessie A]

Interesting how he’s casting spells through the angelish language the entire lecture lol

[River Rocks]

U gave us great knowlage thankyou so very much

[D Dozier]

Magic lives in the human spirit, unfortunately its very diluted these days

[wewe nang]

The civilization where Harut and Marut came to test humanity and teach them the forbidden knowledge of magic.

[jeff henderson]

I love how he pronouces "Cu-nae-ee-form".

[Archaeology Now]

The ONLY and CORRECT way!!!

[Luna M]

no way...those eyebrows i love!!!❤❤❤😂😂 and they got thier own zip code!!😂😂😂

[graymouser]

If your lexicon is deficit, or if you aren't paying enough attention, you might think this was was dry, boring lecture. NO SUCH THING! Dr. Finkel clearly enjoyed himself, and spends almost as much time cracking wise as he does dispensing knowledge. So enjoyable.

[yourspookygay]

Just finished his book, First Ghosts. GO READ IT