Unmasking the Truth about being Gay in the Black Church | Thee Muses Unsuppressed Ep. 1

[@indiawinbush8399]

Ppl that haven't experienced this has no idea how deep this goes

[@TheeMuses]

It’s so true and that’s why we touched on certain topics of the conversation so that ppl who may not have had the same experience can understand where ppl who do have that background come from

[@esbizzze]

So much of this resonates with me. I, too, grew up in a cult. The cult of Jehovah Witnesses. Most cults follow the same blueprint. I never believed in it even as a small child. Like you, I questioned everything. They all count on fear to keep you indoctrinated. Also, they recruit from the vulnerable. I left home at 16 to get away from it. Also the majority of my family shuns me. I am happy that you have found your intended and intentional family.❤

[@TheeMuses]

Oh wow thank you for sharing. So sorry to hear about your family but it’s good that you followed what felt right for you and led your own path in this life. We’re happy to be here for support and we appreciate you. Thank you for watching and more to come ❤

[@jovansiaholly]

OMG, I’m watching and that was my same experience in church. I always had questions and no one had answers. People would start getting short with me because they were getting annoyed and frustrated with me. But I needed things to make sense. I needed to see proof/evidence. One year the bishop even called me to the front for special prayer and in front of the entire congregation told me to ask the lord to change me (he knew I was gay), I stopped going to church after that.

[@elisak2.0]

🙌🏽”How you going to make me worship a god the slave masters forced the slaves to worship?” This is 1000% facts…thank you so much for sharing this truth! It is so comforting to know I am not alone in detoxing and deprogramming from the Pentecostal/Apostolic CULTure.

[@lolwayoflife]

I went through a similar upbringing and it is hard feeling like most people in life don’t understand and can’t relate it makes you feel really f’ing alone. So I always am grateful when Adrienne shares her story. It makes me feel less alone. Thank you both for being a beacon of light and sharing your story consistently and spreading awareness. These conversations need to be had and y’all are helping pave paths of freedom for us all.

[@TheeMuses]

Thank you so much for sharing and we are happy to know that you appreciate this. It’s definitely needed and we are here to continue the conversation around most topics ppl don’t like to discuss. ❤❤❤❤

[@dferg9320]

I could write a novel in the comment section on this topic. In short I appreciate this conversation. I relate so much with Adrienne esp with the intrusive thoughts as a child constantly praying and thinking I’m going to get left behind for every thought. (They should ban that movie).

[@SabrinasDigitalLife]

This resonated so much with my Pentecostal raised childhood! So happy I was able to escape that cult!

[@mytgirl123]

I had a similar upbringing. I grew up in a southern black Christian environment where my dad still is a pastor today. I always had question about everything from history to religion as a kid. My dad is a bible scholar and there were always bibles and history books around the house growing up. This planted a seed of curiosity into me that would later be a path to my spiritual journey. It wasnt until I was 11 or 12 that I became fully conscious of my attractions to other girls and it really caused periods of depression and anxiety in me as I heard homophobic sermons in church. My thought as a 12-14 year old was how can I love a god who wants to burn me for all eternity for natural emotions innate to my being. I came out when I was 15 and was told to pray it away. I came out again at 24 and my parents tried to "rebuke" demons out of me. It was the most horrific moment i ever experienced. My dad used nothing but profanity at me like I wasnt his daughter. Like I was some bum on the street who stole from him. The experience led to me leaving church and eventually Christianity entirely. It took me almost 10 years to realize I needed therapy from the religious trauma I experienced. A recent funeral of a family member was the first time in ten years Ive been to a church service.

[@mytgirl123]

My love for history research and questioning led me to discover that Christianity is a scam religion. Its plagiarized kemetic science and was later used by government officials to control people economically and politically. And Its evident how these churches function. Its all about control. I dont even argue about religion especially Christianity and especially with black folk because nobody knows what they are following. Partly due to the fact that religion shames people for using common sense logic and research. Its cultural programming and its beat into our DNA as black folk to be religious. This is why as I grow older, I dont hold any fault against my parents. Im grown and its up to me to take my power back and live my life.

[@kiw.9805]

I appreciate y’all so much. As a black queer person who also was raised in church AND went to a Christian school, it’s alienating when you leave. I’ve decided after so many years of religious indoctrination and straight up fuck shit that I refuse to be involved with Christianity again and have gone no contact with a large chunk of my family because of it. The straw that broke the camel’s back for me is I recently this September got married to, in my opinion, the most amazing beautiful wonderful woman I’ve ever met. I’m happier than I’ve ever been internally and in love. To have family members gossip to my mother about how they felt about my sexuality I said enough is enough. The love we have radiates off of one another. We’re whole and complete separate and apart. In the words of Yoncé I was born free. Their intolerance and bigotry will not fuck up this love of me and this love we have for one another. Much love and you have a supporter here :) 💜💜💜

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[@TheeMuses]

Wow!! After all these years we appreciate your continuous support for our content that we put out. Thank you for watching & stay tune for more to come!!! MuuuuuuuuuussseeeeMaaaaffffiiiaaaa!!!

[@lifes_journey]

I loved this! I was born in the Ansaru Allah cult with Malachi Z York and then we were placed in protective service and unfortunately my mom found another cult for us to join the Seventh Day Adventists. Thank you lovely Queens ❤

[@DarlaReborn]

I can SO relate to the mental torment. I grew up in a denomination where we couldn’t wear jewelry, drink, dance, all the things. Also, there was a focus on the ‘last days’ and all the horrible things to come, like persecution. Years ago, I had a vivid mental picture of hell that kept me up one night. I was terrified of ‘God’. God was said to be love, but judged, punished, supported so many terrible things, and was angry. I now understand that anybody who can believe in such contradictions cannot be stable. Any issues you experience can only be exacerbated by these terrible ideas. These idea had impacts on me that have effected me to degrees that are difficult to measure.

[@destinee-boogalooshrimp1229]

We need these on the regular 😭 let’s hear more about janeekas life too?! ❤

[@indiawinbush8399]

LISTEN!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SOOOO NEEDED!!! I'M SO PROUD OF U!!!! PLS SHARE MORE OF THIS!!!! There's so much of this that needs to be discussed and unpacked !!!! I have SOOOO many thoughts on this!!! PROUD OF U

[@TheeMuses]

Thank you so much! We have so many more topics we can’t wait to share with you!!

[@hermillionaire]

I appreciate this video and how Adrianne is speaking her truth. I grew up Baptist I also went to private school up until 6th grade. Then my 7th grade year i went to a catholic school. But I left my Baptist church about 2 years a go and I decided to go to a non denominational church because I was not getting the answers that I needed and I also felt like I was not learning. Recently I have decided to make the conscious decision to leave the non denominational church because I just did not agree with what was happening there. I am an Aquarius and also apart of the LGBTQ+ community. Just Like Adrianne I grew up not being able to question the Bible or question God because I was told not to do so by adults that did not have the answers to my questions. I did not realize how much like childhood trauma I had from the church and the adults in my life until i was like 28. Now I am living my best creative life as a photographer and graphic designer not caring what anyone has to say or thinks about me. Sometimes you have to shutout the world and the people around you to really just love yourself and be comfortable with who you are. I 100% believe in God I know that the Bible is the passage way through life and the parables Jesus spoke mean so much and I believe I was brought to this video for a reason. Just the things that I have been encountering these last few weeks have just opened up so much for me. Thank you both so much for this platform and this video it has solidified so many things and it makes me feel like i am not alone. I love your work keep doing what yall do and continue to be an inspiration, such amazing women. 🥰

[@mariewebb2312]

I'm so sorry you went through that torture growing up. How confusing that must have been for you.. Thanks for sharing your truth .💜 Love yall

[@saviluci]

Anything that takes away from your autonomy you should question

[@DJLisha]

I took a religious studies class my soph year in college. 30 mins in I left out in tears and called my grandmother! I’d never heard of Judaism, the Quran or Buddhists 🤯 I was literally traumatized because my logical brain battled the indoctrination instilled in me since birth on a daily basis! This episode was sooooo necessary 😊

[@jaescott3297]

Thank you for telling your truth. The truth about Christianity. Growing up I had the same questions. ❤

[@TheeMuses]

See this is why we do it. For those of us who had the questions that needed answering lol thank you for watching

[@AriesLaZuriUhuru]

It was around 6 years old that I began to question the teachings of the Bible and I was met with the same responses.

[@Reeses710]

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[@lizzien5846]

“He sounds like a slave master!” 👏👏👏 That was so on the mark!

[@lipznfros]

Great Chat‼💯👍🏽🥰🙏🏽

[@68dbass]

This was so revealing! I was raised very similarly. What an amazing example of resilience, self Love and healing! It pains me to hear what you went through but I’m so grateful for who you’ve become as a result of your healing journey through it.🙏🏾❤️

[@beingjanay]

May you both truly seek God and ask for His discernment because you have to truly study Gods word. Having a Bible commentary and biblical dictionary helps in study. Looking up the origins of words and getting the full understanding of the scriptures.

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[@o.j.7619]

I’m ready for the Muse Queer “Auntie” TT retreats 👀👀🙏🏾🔥 esp those who need the community outside of church 😳🫠🥹 I loved this episode

[@LoveNia_]

I would absolutely LOVE you guys take on Jackie Hill. For reference her book “Gay Girl Good God” I have a upbringing in the church as well and I’m a admirer of Jackie but I am on the fence on if she is actually harmful to Gay people. My fiancée believes she is and does not understand me being a fan. I just think she is so interesting and sooooo beautiful & so wise. I don’t understand how she is so brilliant and still believe the way she believes.

[@shaniquehunter412]

This is a very very good podcast….It grab my attention and I had to watch in its entirety..love this ❤❤

[@goddess_joy33]

🫶🏼🥰✨💫 I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU PUTTING THIS OUT FOR THE WORLD! SYSTEMS ARE BREAKING, CONSTRUCTS ARE FALLING AND TRUTHS ARE BEING REVEALED!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH! SO MUCH LOVE, PROTECTION, HEALING, JOY, AND ABUNDANT ENERGY IS FLOWING YOUR WAY! THANK YOU AGAIN!

[@TheeMuses]

Yes this is the age of Aquarius let the truth be told and let the systems fall!! Come on lol thank you for watching ❤

[@sandrarobinson3565]

Powerful conversation

[@cynmille2000]

I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for going so deep with us.

[@GoogleAccount00]

This is a phenomenal video. Thank you Adrienne for your strength and willingness to stand boldly against the cult of Christianity.

[@darbster25]

Hell of a 1st episode!!! 💪🏾

[@aliciawilliams3762]

More of this please. More bible break down and analysis.

[@cho.cho_]

I had to revisit this podcast after what I experienced at the current place I teach at. Short version of the story, pretty much what came out the persons mouth was about psychics, how they don’t believe in things like tarot etcs, and anything that isn’t of god is demonic…but a few days ago we talked about zodiac signs…but anything outside of that isn’t of god… Just as you expressed, I don’t shoot down anyone’s beliefs at all, and that coming out that persons mouth didn’t offend me it just made me see that person differently and furthermore reminded me of how some of those of the church are so quick to judge and so quick to deem anything as evil, hypocritical if you will. That person ended up expressing that they hope that they didn’t offend me for their comment cause they recognized the energy shifted, cause it did😌lol, but again they didn’t offend me because I know what I practice is a form of understanding myself better and having a better relationship with my spirituality, so I expressed to them that they didn’t offend me and just shared that it could however offend others especially if their experience was truly tough with folks who casted them as a evil person for what they practice. I’ve experienced it but I’ve healed from that experience and so comments like that roll off my shoulder and so just be mindful of what you say. I appreciate y’all aunties truly for y’all’s authenticity and pushing the boundaries and encouraging others to step into their own unique power and beautiful hearts♥️💫

[@NAIMA2323]

Thank you for being so honest!

[@TheeMuses]

Always!

[@aliciawilliams3762]

Great job with the questions!!!

[@nicolejh90]

Thank you so much for sharing this! I grew up in a very similar situation except my grandfather was a pastor. And I feel everything that you’re saying! I’m glad someone understands what having that background does to u.But watching this video really helped and made me feel seen. And I’m glad someone out there understands Thank you

[@jadebaltimore9525]

this was such a beautiful video. thank you so much for sharing 💚

[@laiorawalker2953]

I absolutely loved this! I definitely had a similar experience with the church. I needed to listen and hear all of this, thanks y’all ❤ -To thine own self be true ✨

[@TheeMuses]

Yessss to thine own self be true! Thank you for watching

[@shondradorton1575]

Thank you for this topic!

[@RaeDVMN]

This was so relatable. Facts for sure if you grew up in a black church.

[@shugaslimm1151]

Phewww this episode, thank yall so much 🙏🏾

[@kishamoore3967]

Could you list some books to research to read 📚 🤔

[@GoogleAccount00]

I second this. Any book recommendations Adrienne?

[@shellringbells7954]

Good conversation ‼️‼️

[@cortezmiller1899]

Glad that y’all did another video on this topic. I had and have the same questions while being brought up in the church.

[@TheeMuses]

Yes we all do and that’s why we did it ❤

[@SinnamonS]

Love this! What’s ASD?

[@jessicalam6024]

I loved this ❤

[@DivinefrequenciesXL]

Bless her heart 😔🌸

[@naaakuokor63]

“I guess I’m just a sinning bitch and I’ll ask God for forgiveness later” was so real lmaooo

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[@TheeMuses]

Ayyyeeee S/O to the OG’s!!! We appreciate you and thank you so much for watching ❤

[@aretha4899]

I was a little girl when singer sung writer musician etc James Cleveland everyone knew he was gay and they turned a blind eye

[@shes_ah_truckher7716]

Wow I didn’t know this.

[@Ms.CyranoDebergerac]

Former President Jimmy Carter Said 'Jesus Never Said a Word About Homosexuality'? "When we go to the Bible we should keep in mind that the basic principles of the Bible are taught by God, but written down by human beings deprived of modern day knowledge," Carter said.

[@pheonixxxrose]

My dearest love. If you only knew

[@mablemable2475]

I am going to post this story I just read it somewhere. I will paste it here below this comment.

[@mablemable2475]

It was my twin sister that first discovered that I was a lesbian. We were in 100level in University and we lived at the hostel. My twin sister, and I, with two other girls shared a room. I took a deep interest in one of the girls, she was a pure tomboy, one would think that she was a boy. I was so glad when she told me that she was a lesbian. "I am also a lesbian" I told her and her eyes brighten. "I had a girlfriend but she cheated on me and we broke up" she told me and I patted her shoulders. "It's fine. She doesn't deserve you" I said to her "but please, my sister must not know that I am a lesbian... My parents too" "Oh... My family knows that I am. They respect my sexuality" she said and I envied her. I wished I could tell my family too, so that I would have peace of mind but I dared not. A boy who was gay died when he was beaten up by seven people with a broom. They said they were casting out the demon in him, that he was possessed. "How old are you and when did you discovered your sexuality?" She asked me "I am 19, I discovered my sexuality at 13..." I told her and she told me that she was 21 and she discovered her sexuality at 9. We became very close and we started dating secretly, even though she was at 200level. I still love her. We were carried away in romance that noon, we forgot to close the door and we were sex!ng when my sister came in. She was shocked! She could not believe it, but she thought that we were possessed, she called my parents on phone and told them, they came to school to pick me in the evening I was caught when I wanted to run away and I was tied with rope and bundled into the car. I was beaten severally for 12 days, saying that they were casting out the demon in me, I was not given food and water. It was at the midnight of the 13th day that my girlfriend came to me and we ran away... I have been living with her in her parents' house, and today makes it 2years that I've been away, that I've not seen my family.

[@Ms.CyranoDebergerac]

Your mother would have been "mean spirited" regardless of her being involved in church or not. Your mother was tired, overwhelmed, upset, mad, angry, frustrated and so much more and didn't want to be. You were simply an easy target. Ask your mother... did she even want children. Too ask her did she feel cheated, short sided, victimized, embarrassed, shamed in her personal life. When parents have to fight and do things they don't want to do but are forced they develop a hatred. Just because she is a mom doesn't mean she is a stable, good person, patient person, etc. If your mother feels like a victim she will make and create victims. She will judge those who are not acting or living accordingly. What you do not know is your parents as people in society. Who was your mom as a child. Who was your mom as a student. What type of grades did she make. What did teachers really think of her. Was she bullied in school. Did the boys like her or was she rejected. Did your mom have a talent, skill or special ability. You see she is your mom but to others she's just some regular woman who has kids. Another question...did your mom like or love herself growing up. Did her parents like or love or wanted her? Sweetheart, some women should never have children. She hides behind the church. I am not bothered or afraid of anyone's parents because I am a police officer. Your parents would be afraid of me, that I know. Parents lack one thing in the real world and that is arresting powers, get it. If you saw your mother being disciplined or scolded by a cop, district attorney or judge you see her shrink. You mother isn't saved she isn't a woman needing to be saved by grace. You mother is a criminal and law breaker. Your mother is a child abuser and charges should have been brought against her. Religion is not a reason to be excused reference abuse. Like dogs they feed you, house you so they feel as though you have to obey them or else. Sweetheart nowhere in the Bible did Jesus discuss lesbianism or homosexuality. There were gay people before and during his time yet he did not rebuke, teach, hate or discuss the subject. Your mother dealt with other things besides love, peace, happiness, joy, meekness, kindness, gladness, faith, patience, long-suffering, charity, chastity. I have seen so many church folks in court it's not funny. She was wrong and still is wrong. Your mother needs help or she needs to leave her role in church and seek therapy. I wonder if she will turn herself in to police to face charges for child abuse, ask her. Your mom doesn't believe what she reads in the Bible cause if she did she'd suffer from conviction and depression. Your mom didn't want children the more I hear you. Your mom is a jealous, envious, bitter woman. You are a victim of madness. You became your mother's outlet for her self- hatred and her hatred for children and religion. Children for some women is a curse. After she had children there was no more her. She had to feed you, had to cook, had to keep working, and had to spend her money on someone other than herself and her friends. She had to do things and keep doing things she didn't want to or like for 18 years. White people are as mean and ugly they just couldn't take their crap out on blacks/you. It would be nice to speak to you one day. Trust me on this, if it wasn't you it would be someone else. As far as being gay...she was more worried about people talking and gossiping about her than anything. Your mom has an issue with pride. Your mom did things as a child she's just not saying anything to you.... everyone has secrets, she has secrets. Listen, God saved her from her sins, right? Ask your mom if she repents and if she does what does she repent about. Did you know that your mother has to ask for your forgiveness. If she doesn't she cannot be forgiven by God. Girl, before I go check this out. You know your dad cheated on your mom... he's a minister, right? Ministers are always suspect. Their wives hate being their wives. She made her bed. Still she broke the law and until she understands that and deals with it she suffers the most. Jesus said to love. You guys are blessed so keep going Excuse all typos. Peace & love. My mom and grandma never spoke about my sexuality. You mom has issues you don't.

[@briyanahall1961]

im dealing with the same shit with my mother and uncle . they follow iuic 😒 I never been so confused in my life

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[@Toni.Latrice1988]

Let’s talk about when the devil went to heaven and asked God for Job and God was like sure, just don’t kill him. I was like WTF!

[@GHOSTRIDER4EVER]

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[@TruckingandMyGod]

You have the right to judge the church because the church was only created to control the masses, but that does not mean that God doesn't exist because, he does' for he is the creator of all good and evil, there are two Gods light verses Dark, the ying & the yang. The fire of love and peace is in all of us, and how we chose to live our lives is truly up to us,broad is the road that leads to destruction and narrow is the gate that only few will find. The devil is the father of all lies and very deceiving. Bless be

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